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lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> ubuntu@one-krill:~/meta-xsc/lubuntu-meta$ ./update  … ./update: 13: exec: germinate-update-metapackage: not found … ubuntu@one-krill:~/meta-xsc/lubuntu-meta$14:29
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> lil help here.14:29
lubot<HMollerCl> Apt install germinate14:53
lubot<HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker read the readme15:08
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [Apt install germinate], Ack.15:23
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [@The_LoudSpeaker read the readme], Sure.15:23
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> oh yeah I missed the germinate in dependencies line.15:29
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Ah! one step there clones from launchpad.15:32
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> and we all know how much sophos likes that!15:33
lubot<HMollerCl> it takes loooong time15:35
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> No it doesn't even gets cloned. timesout15:36
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I have to reroute the traffic using my wireguard server on a aws machine.15:37
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Also it takes a looong looong time.15:55
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> downloading so many things!15:55
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I am already behind a vpn. slow like anything.15:55
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> The script is running since last 20 mins.15:56
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Oh I just noticed, it downloads from archive.ubuntu.com and not from in.archive.com. One of the major reasons for such long times.15:58
lubot<HMollerCl> Question. Could/Would be possible that software center is more like a webpage you could load in a web browser?17:58
lubot<glpzzz> @HMollerCl [Question. Could/Would be possible that software center is more like a webpage yo …], And what about install mechanics?17:59
lubot<aptghetto> If you have a webserver and application server in the background17:59
lubot<glpzzz> @aptghetto [If you have a webserver and application server in the background], there is a python module for this already included.18:00
lubot<HMollerCl> @glpzzz [And what about install mechanics?], copy paste the command18:13
lubot<HMollerCl> I haven't seen a a softwer center that works ok in low resources environment18:14
lubot<HMollerCl> @aptghetto [If you have a webserver and application server in the background], what do you think?18:14
lubot<aptghetto> If you have a browser, you can send an http(s) request to a webserver and you need an application server, that does something with the request18:15
lubot<aptghetto> So, you will have a lot of security problems and configuration problems to solve18:16
lubot<glpzzz> @aptghetto [If you have a browser, you can send an http(s) request to a webserver and you ne …], That's right18:16
lubot<tsimonq2> @aptghetto [If you have a browser, you can send an http(s) request to a webserver and you ne …], Not exactly18:16
lubot<glpzzz> @HMollerCl [I haven't seen a a softwer center that works ok in low resources environment], But I think native always beats web.18:16
lubot<tsimonq2> The way GNOME does it with extensions is different18:17
lubot<aptghetto> How does this work?18:17
lubot<tsimonq2> I think it was something like a unique URL scheme18:18
lubot<tsimonq2> Something like software://18:18
lubot<HMollerCl> @glpzzz [But I think native always beats web.], depend on how is programmed, discover in my centrino duo with 8Gb RAM and SSD is unusable.18:21
lubot<glpzzz> @HMollerCl [depend on how is programmed, discover in my centrino duo with 8Gb RAM and SSD is …], I always uninstall them. Very bloated. And I don't know why...18:22
lubot<HMollerCl> found this: http://appnr.com/ apparently does what I was thinking18:46
wxloh that looks good18:47
wxlRecommended Downloads18:47
wxlPokerCasinoDownload .com18:47
wxl</sarcasm>18:47
lubot<HMollerCl> jajaja18:47
lubot<HMollerCl> didn't saw that, I don't have eyes for poker.18:48
wxlme either18:48
lubot<HMollerCl> now apps.ubuntu.com redirects to https://snapcraft.io/store18:49
lubot<HMollerCl> @glpzzz [And what about install mechanics?], apturl18:50
lubot<HMollerCl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptURL18:51
lubot<glpzzz> @HMollerCl [apturl], 👍👍18:58
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [apturl], Looks like a good idea. But as I read it, says it will launch the package manager. Which, in our case is ___ ? Discover?19:20
lubot<HMollerCl> as I understand apturl is a gtk frontend to manage apturl19:22
lubot<HMollerCl> Description: install packages using the apt protocol - GTK+ frontend …  AptUrl is a simple graphical application that takes an URL (which follows the …  apt-protocol) as a command line option, parses it and carries out the …  operations that the URL describes (that is, it asks the user if he wants the …  indicated packages to be ins19:22
lubottalled and if the answer is positive does so for …  him). …  . …  This package contains the GTK+ frontend.19:22
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> So if I discover uninstalled, apturl will still work?19:24
lubot<HMollerCl> that's what I understand19:24
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [depend on how is programmed, discover in my centrino duo with 8Gb RAM and SSD is …], I have never used discover so no idea how it works on my system. Synaptic works good tho.19:25
lubot<tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker [I have never used discover so no idea how it works on my system. Synaptic works …], It's a software store19:25
lubot<tsimonq2> Imagine big flashy pictures and lots of system resources19:25
lubot<tsimonq2> Heh19:25
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [that's what I understand], We gotta test. Where can I find apturl links?19:26
lubot<tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker [We gotta test. Where can I find apturl links?], You make them :)19:26
lubot<tsimonq2> You're probably going to have to read the apturl source to see which triggers it looks for19:26
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 [You make them :)], 🙂19:26
lubot<tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker [🙂], :)19:27
lubot<HMollerCl> $ apturl  … Please install apturl-gtk or apturl-kde. … hmoller@ine-vb:~$ apt list apturl*           … Listing... Done … apturl-common/focal,now 0.5.2ubuntu17 amd64 [installed,auto-removable] … apturl/focal 0.5.2ubuntu17 amd6419:27
lubot<HMollerCl> mmm19:27
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 [You're probably going to have to read the apturl source to see which triggers it …], K. Will add this to list. Afk right now with a lot of headache. Anyone with measures to counter headache?19:27
lubot<HMollerCl> so it ask for apturl-gtk or apturl-kde which aren't in the repo....19:28
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [$ apturl  … Please install apturl-gtk or apturl-kde. … hmoller@ine-vb:~$ apt list ap …], apturl-kde is written in qt?19:28
lubot<HMollerCl> don't know, I don't find it, nut should19:29
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [so it ask for apturl-gtk or apturl-kde which aren't in the repo....], Must be there in bionic. Check that once.19:29
The_LoudSpeaker!info apturl-kde bionic19:30
ubot93Package apturl-kde does not exist in bionic19:30
lubot<HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker apt://skype19:30
lubot<HMollerCl> that's an apturl19:30
The_LoudSpeaker!info apturl-gtk bionic19:30
ubot93Package apturl-gtk does not exist in bionic19:30
lubot<HMollerCl> https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?t=10130519:31
The_LoudSpeakerGgwp!19:31
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> What's Konqueror again?19:32
lubot<HMollerCl> it was a file manager+browser for kde19:32
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Okay.19:33
lubot<HMollerCl> like explorer19:33
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> "was" ? Not shipping any more?19:33
lubot<HMollerCl> I think no, trojita is the browser replacement19:35
lubot<HMollerCl> sorry, not trojita, falkon19:36
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Oh.19:36
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL5ea554cf9c84: Update Readme.md info to links of where is built] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL5ea554cf9c8420:36
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl the update script still keeps the version as UNRELEASED and not focal. The meta update script.20:54
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL140e65ca4c94: Update README.md to link to the liscense] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL140e65ca4c9420:55
lubot<tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker [@HMollerCl the update script still keeps the version as UNRELEASED and not focal …], That's intentional20:59
lubot<tsimonq2> Whether we want to change that is up for discussion though :)20:59
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> we should imo. saves the updater an extra command.21:00
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Also, whats desktop-s390x ?21:01
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> what architecture?21:02
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Also, someone poiint me to SRU docs.21:08
lubot<HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 [That's intentional], Mmm I tested and it worked21:14
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Didn't work for me21:14
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Had to manually edit the dch21:14
lubot<HMollerCl> I added dch -e \"\" to update script21:15
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL1ab7e0251ee9: Remove uneeded whitespace] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL1ab7e0251ee921:51
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL7105ac06ded0: Remove uneeded shitespace] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL7105ac06ded021:53
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [Also, someone poiint me to SRU docs.], @tsimonq223:03
wxlsomeone needs to show raman how to use a search engine23:03
wxlmaybe we should make a task for that XD23:03
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Also, what happened to the CI docs you were going to point me to. @tsimonq223:03
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> maybe we should make a task for that XD], XD23:03
wxlalso you can search in phab23:04
wxlto be fair, it's linked to the task description of any of the the meta-sru tasks23:04
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I got this https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/packaging/ci/23:04
wxlthe ci docs are on the phab wiki, too23:04
wxlthat's it23:04
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I am looking for sru ones23:04
wxlthere are no specific ci docs relative to srus23:06
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> something simillar to packaging example but for SRU?23:10
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Also, D61 will finally complete the xscreensaver tasks wxl.23:11
The_LoudSpeakerfrom #sddm : https://pastebin.com/iLwZFkzz23:33
The_LoudSpeakerwhat do we make of this?23:33
wxlhttps://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus/23:51

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