[14:29] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> ubuntu@one-krill:~/meta-xsc/lubuntu-meta$ ./update  … ./update: 13: exec: germinate-update-metapackage: not found … ubuntu@one-krill:~/meta-xsc/lubuntu-meta$
[14:29] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> lil help here.
[14:53] <lubot> <HMollerCl> Apt install germinate
[15:08] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker read the readme
[15:23] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [Apt install germinate], Ack.
[15:23] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [@The_LoudSpeaker read the readme], Sure.
[15:29] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> oh yeah I missed the germinate in dependencies line.
[15:32] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Ah! one step there clones from launchpad.
[15:33] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> and we all know how much sophos likes that!
[15:35] <lubot> <HMollerCl> it takes loooong time
[15:36] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> No it doesn't even gets cloned. timesout
[15:37] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> I have to reroute the traffic using my wireguard server on a aws machine.
[15:55] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Also it takes a looong looong time.
[15:55] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> downloading so many things!
[15:55] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> I am already behind a vpn. slow like anything.
[15:56] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> The script is running since last 20 mins.
[15:58] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Oh I just noticed, it downloads from archive.ubuntu.com and not from in.archive.com. One of the major reasons for such long times.
[17:58] <lubot> <HMollerCl> Question. Could/Would be possible that software center is more like a webpage you could load in a web browser?
[17:59] <lubot> <glpzzz> @HMollerCl [Question. Could/Would be possible that software center is more like a webpage yo …], And what about install mechanics?
[17:59] <lubot> <aptghetto> If you have a webserver and application server in the background
[18:00] <lubot> <glpzzz> @aptghetto [If you have a webserver and application server in the background], there is a python module for this already included.
[18:13] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @glpzzz [And what about install mechanics?], copy paste the command
[18:14] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I haven't seen a a softwer center that works ok in low resources environment
[18:14] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @aptghetto [If you have a webserver and application server in the background], what do you think?
[18:15] <lubot> <aptghetto> If you have a browser, you can send an http(s) request to a webserver and you need an application server, that does something with the request
[18:16] <lubot> <aptghetto> So, you will have a lot of security problems and configuration problems to solve
[18:16] <lubot> <glpzzz> @aptghetto [If you have a browser, you can send an http(s) request to a webserver and you ne …], That's right
[18:16] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @aptghetto [If you have a browser, you can send an http(s) request to a webserver and you ne …], Not exactly
[18:16] <lubot> <glpzzz> @HMollerCl [I haven't seen a a softwer center that works ok in low resources environment], But I think native always beats web.
[18:17] <lubot> <tsimonq2> The way GNOME does it with extensions is different
[18:17] <lubot> <aptghetto> How does this work?
[18:18] <lubot> <tsimonq2> I think it was something like a unique URL scheme
[18:18] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Something like software://
[18:21] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @glpzzz [But I think native always beats web.], depend on how is programmed, discover in my centrino duo with 8Gb RAM and SSD is unusable.
[18:22] <lubot> <glpzzz> @HMollerCl [depend on how is programmed, discover in my centrino duo with 8Gb RAM and SSD is …], I always uninstall them. Very bloated. And I don't know why...
[18:46] <lubot> <HMollerCl> found this: http://appnr.com/ apparently does what I was thinking
[18:47] <wxl> oh that looks good
[18:47] <wxl> Recommended Downloads
[18:47] <wxl> PokerCasinoDownload .com
[18:47] <wxl> </sarcasm>
[18:47] <lubot> <HMollerCl> jajaja
[18:48] <lubot> <HMollerCl> didn't saw that, I don't have eyes for poker.
[18:48] <wxl> me either
[18:49] <lubot> <HMollerCl> now apps.ubuntu.com redirects to https://snapcraft.io/store
[18:50] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @glpzzz [And what about install mechanics?], apturl
[18:51] <lubot> <HMollerCl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptURL
[18:58] <lubot> <glpzzz> @HMollerCl [apturl], 👍👍
[19:20] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [apturl], Looks like a good idea. But as I read it, says it will launch the package manager. Which, in our case is ___ ? Discover?
[19:22] <lubot> <HMollerCl> as I understand apturl is a gtk frontend to manage apturl
[19:22] <lubot> <HMollerCl> Description: install packages using the apt protocol - GTK+ frontend …  AptUrl is a simple graphical application that takes an URL (which follows the …  apt-protocol) as a command line option, parses it and carries out the …  operations that the URL describes (that is, it asks the user if he wants the …  indicated packages to be ins
[19:22] <lubot> talled and if the answer is positive does so for …  him). …  . …  This package contains the GTK+ frontend.
[19:24] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> So if I discover uninstalled, apturl will still work?
[19:24] <lubot> <HMollerCl> that's what I understand
[19:25] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [depend on how is programmed, discover in my centrino duo with 8Gb RAM and SSD is …], I have never used discover so no idea how it works on my system. Synaptic works good tho.
[19:25] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker [I have never used discover so no idea how it works on my system. Synaptic works …], It's a software store
[19:25] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Imagine big flashy pictures and lots of system resources
[19:25] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Heh
[19:26] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [that's what I understand], We gotta test. Where can I find apturl links?
[19:26] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker [We gotta test. Where can I find apturl links?], You make them :)
[19:26] <lubot> <tsimonq2> You're probably going to have to read the apturl source to see which triggers it looks for
[19:26] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 [You make them :)], 🙂
[19:27] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker [🙂], :)
[19:27] <lubot> <HMollerCl> $ apturl  … Please install apturl-gtk or apturl-kde. … hmoller@ine-vb:~$ apt list apturl*           … Listing... Done … apturl-common/focal,now 0.5.2ubuntu17 amd64 [installed,auto-removable] … apturl/focal 0.5.2ubuntu17 amd64
[19:27] <lubot> <HMollerCl> mmm
[19:27] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 [You're probably going to have to read the apturl source to see which triggers it …], K. Will add this to list. Afk right now with a lot of headache. Anyone with measures to counter headache?
[19:28] <lubot> <HMollerCl> so it ask for apturl-gtk or apturl-kde which aren't in the repo....
[19:28] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [$ apturl  … Please install apturl-gtk or apturl-kde. … hmoller@ine-vb:~$ apt list ap …], apturl-kde is written in qt?
[19:29] <lubot> <HMollerCl> don't know, I don't find it, nut should
[19:29] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [so it ask for apturl-gtk or apturl-kde which aren't in the repo....], Must be there in bionic. Check that once.
[19:30] <The_LoudSpeaker> !info apturl-kde bionic
[19:30] <ubot93> Package apturl-kde does not exist in bionic
[19:30] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker apt://skype
[19:30] <lubot> <HMollerCl> that's an apturl
[19:30] <The_LoudSpeaker> !info apturl-gtk bionic
[19:30] <ubot93> Package apturl-gtk does not exist in bionic
[19:31] <lubot> <HMollerCl> https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?t=101305
[19:31] <The_LoudSpeaker> Ggwp!
[19:32] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> What's Konqueror again?
[19:32] <lubot> <HMollerCl> it was a file manager+browser for kde
[19:33] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Okay.
[19:33] <lubot> <HMollerCl> like explorer
[19:33] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> "was" ? Not shipping any more?
[19:35] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I think no, trojita is the browser replacement
[19:36] <lubot> <HMollerCl> sorry, not trojita, falkon
[19:36] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Oh.
[20:36] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL5ea554cf9c84: Update Readme.md info to links of where is built] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL5ea554cf9c84
[20:54] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl the update script still keeps the version as UNRELEASED and not focal. The meta update script.
[20:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL140e65ca4c94: Update README.md to link to the liscense] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL140e65ca4c94
[20:59] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker [@HMollerCl the update script still keeps the version as UNRELEASED and not focal …], That's intentional
[20:59] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Whether we want to change that is up for discussion though :)
[21:00] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> we should imo. saves the updater an extra command.
[21:01] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Also, whats desktop-s390x ?
[21:02] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> what architecture?
[21:08] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Also, someone poiint me to SRU docs.
[21:14] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 [That's intentional], Mmm I tested and it worked
[21:14] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Didn't work for me
[21:14] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Had to manually edit the dch
[21:15] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I added dch -e \"\" to update script
[21:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL1ab7e0251ee9: Remove uneeded whitespace] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL1ab7e0251ee9
[21:53] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL7105ac06ded0: Remove uneeded shitespace] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL7105ac06ded0
[23:03] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [Also, someone poiint me to SRU docs.], @tsimonq2
[23:03] <wxl> someone needs to show raman how to use a search engine
[23:03] <wxl> maybe we should make a task for that XD
[23:03] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Also, what happened to the CI docs you were going to point me to. @tsimonq2
[23:03] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> maybe we should make a task for that XD], XD
[23:04] <wxl> also you can search in phab
[23:04] <wxl> to be fair, it's linked to the task description of any of the the meta-sru tasks
[23:04] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> I got this https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/packaging/ci/
[23:04] <wxl> the ci docs are on the phab wiki, too
[23:04] <wxl> that's it
[23:04] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> I am looking for sru ones
[23:06] <wxl> there are no specific ci docs relative to srus
[23:10] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> something simillar to packaging example but for SRU?
[23:11] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Also, D61 will finally complete the xscreensaver tasks wxl.
[23:33] <The_LoudSpeaker> from #sddm : https://pastebin.com/iLwZFkzz
[23:33] <The_LoudSpeaker> what do we make of this?
[23:51] <wxl> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus/