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ScottyKHow do I share my current wireless connection on my laptop so my cell phone can use the internet? I created a new connection with the "Wireless-Shared", but the phone doesn't see anything01:27
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Thr0rHi! Anyone knows if K-ubuntu team is working on KOrganizer for improvements there? Valorie maybe?04:43
valorieK-Ubuntu?04:44
valoriewe're just kubuntu04:44
Thr0rha ha - yes!04:44
valoriekorganizer is part of PIM, right?04:44
Thr0rright04:44
valorieI don't know that any of our team is involved there04:44
valorieRik is working with the plasma team04:45
valoriethe pim team is very good and active04:45
Thr0rWho?04:45
valorieI think their chan is #kde-pim04:45
valorielemme check04:45
valoriewho what?04:45
Thr0r..what - I mean - channel04:46
Thr0r#kde-pim is fine - I will check..04:46
valorieah, it's #kdepim04:46
valorieno -04:46
valoriesorry04:46
Thr0rok thanks - Still going strong I see Valorie :) good04:47
valoriewell, that's a tiny chan04:47
valorielemme see.....04:47
valorieha! it's #kontact04:48
valoriename of the whole suite04:48
Thr0rYes - I belive I have discussed this before with you and there was no development in "kontact" - maybe it is now.. It's a great application but it does not work as it should..04:50
Thr0rOur discussion back then concluded that google calendar was the one to use - it's a shame for all the "Linux" - ...environment.. really04:51
Thr0rBut - Kubuntu - THAT is the best Linux distro I have ever used.. Perfect!04:53
valorie:-)04:55
valorieone of the reasons kontact is behind is that most of the devels have day jobs04:55
valoriesort of a vicous cycle -- businesses don't use kontact because it's not good enough04:56
valoriesince they don't use it they won't pay for developers04:56
valorieetc.04:56
Thr0rAh - but it's great - it's just that it cannot interact with "notification" system on Linux like other apps.. I CANNOT get ALERTS!! thats crusial to me..04:58
Thr0rand also recurring alarms is a problem - if I remeber correct..04:59
valoriedunno05:16
valoriekmail used to be my absolute favorite, then it stopped working for me05:16
valoriealthough I loathe webmail, gmail Just Works for me05:16
valorieI still miss kmail but .....05:17
Thr0rYes - it's a pitty we're stuck with gmail - they grab all our personal information.. The Linux/Ubuntu community should really develop an alternative.. And yes - It should be web-based..05:20
valoriewell, there is squirrel mail05:26
valoriewhich is horrible05:26
Thr0rAs long as it is not google or MS or Apple I would embrase it - but it's a pitty that the it's just the integration with "notifications" that is the reason for my problems with Korganizer - and also the recurring alarms.. it should be trivial to fix really - but no-one does it.. :(05:36
valorieThr0r: help is always needed05:50
Thr0rhmm - yes - But I am too old for that kind of stuff.. I'm just a consumer these days.. Development/Coding - long time ago..05:56
Thr0rThey are really helpful in #kontact - NOT. That is a development channel :)07:00
tanghusThr0r, valorie: For the first time in years KMail/Akonadi/KOrganizer is working flawlessly for me, and I enjoy it after an involuntary hiatus where I had to use Thunderbird.07:07
valorieglad to hear it, tanghus!07:08
Thr0rOK!? And in the calendar function also alarms works and recurring events??07:10
Thr0rtanghus07:10
lordievaderGood morning07:10
tanghusThr0r: I must admit I haven't noticed that. I get notifications on the phone, so hadn't thought about that.07:11
tanghusWhen I had to stop using it, I couldn't even get it to show me my emails, so in it's current state it's a great improvement. But I guess you're right about missing notifications.07:12
k_szeAnybody here uses gvim under Kubuntu?07:55
IrcsomeBot1<Schyken> Kmail doesn't seem to connect to Gmail so I can't really use it 😪07:57
Thr0rMaybe we can just say that Kontact is just outdated - as per say.. doesn't work...08:08
OerHekshow about google changed their API?08:10
IrcsomeBot1<Schyken> Yeah, it changed some while ago. Some projects didn't seem to take it all that seriously until it no longer worked.08:11
IrcsomeBot1<RikMills> https://www.dvratil.cz/2019/08/kontact-google-integration-issue/08:17
IlgazHello all. Is there a way to apply for beta testing latest kde packages?11:05
IlgazHow do we apply for a beta account? to test bleeding edge stuff on wayland11:08
IrcsomeBot1<Anarchotaoist> @Schyken, From Reddit: Turn on 2FA for your Google account if it's not on yet. … Go to accounts.google.com -> Security -> Signing in to Google -> App Passwords. … Generate a new password, choose "Other" as the name and enter something like KMail. … In KMail, after you get this error, close all extra windows and go to Settings -> Configure KMail -> Accounts -> Receiving -> [Click on whichever one you want to set up] -> Mod11:32
IrcsomeBot1-> Advanced -> Authentication and choose PLAIN … After I clicked OK, I got a pop-up saying that Gmail refused to authenticate with the given username/password. I then went to authenticate again using a button in that dialog box. If you don't get this, find some other way to get to that point. … This time, after entering your e-mail address and verifying 2FA, DON'T use your actual password. Instead, use the App Password generated in step 3.11:32
IrcsomeBot1Just enter it into the password field and press Enter. … KMail should now work with your Gmail account.11:32
IrcsomeBot1<Anarchotaoist> This works. Well, it did, but I no longer have gmail to confirm it still does.11:32
IrcsomeBot1<Anarchotaoist> System Settings - Device Manager no longer working! 🙁11:33
EvilRoeyhi11:55
EvilRoeyhow do I downsize a btrfs partition from 200 GB down to 100GB to make way for increasing another btrfs partition from 47 GB to 147 GB? I have that smaller partition for / and then the rest in /home11:55
BluesKajHowdy all12:13
IrcsomeBot1Pavan V R was added by: Pavan V R12:28
MrTux889_msg NickServ identify Mausi195212:33
OerHekstime to change password, MrTux889_12:38
IrcsomeBot1<freak_502> lol12:39
diogenes_:)12:39
OerHekshttps://freenode.net/news/services-maintenance-password-security12:39
OerHeksor use mine: **************12:39
diogenes_always do such kinds of operations in a separate channel, a random named one like /j #myrandomchannel and then do the reg stuff there.12:40
OerHeks+112:42
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BluesKajpreferably do those changes on the server page13:14
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user|20469what are the rewuirement of kubuntu 19.1013:51
user|20469on macbook air mid 2012 13inch it keeps showing a blink cursor after the kubuntu logo13:52
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IrcsomeBot1<Schyken> @Anarchotaoist, I'm aware. This isn't an adequate solution though.15:39
IrcsomeBot1<Schyken> I'm willing to wait as I know it's being worked on. Google is usually pretty strict about their allowances though, so I understand it could take some time.15:46
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fuzei updated from 18.04 to 19.10 and my nvidia drivers got messed up. one of my dual monitors has a flickering problem. how do i fix it?20:14
fuzetried this https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=237440520:14
IrcsomeBot<Schyken> Are you using the Nvidia drivers from the PPA or from the default drivers page?20:25
fuzeIrcsomeBot: default drivers20:34
fuzehttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/n6MV8Jrb/image.png20:34
fuzeare the ones in the ppa newer or completely different?20:35
IrcsomeBot<Schyken> Oooh, okay that's the right ones.20:35
IrcsomeBot<Schyken> TYTY @RikMills for pointing out the system notifs for reboots and such. Don't know if I already said it but it helped me out :D … Nothing's really broken, but I have this weird pet peeve when I see two instances of the same thing 😅20:38
fuzeis there a better irc channel for my issue?21:00
bpromptfuze:  what's your issue anyway? I never saw it, came in a few minutes ago21:12
fuze i updated from 18.04 to 19.10 and my nvidia drivers got messed up. one of my dual monitors has a flickering problem. how do i fix it?21:12
fuzetried this https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=237440521:13
CountryfiedLinuxhowdy21:33
CountryfiedLinuxI installed Kubuntu yesterday. Nice so far.21:35
CountryfiedLinuxNeeds more theme development. That's beyond my current abilities.21:36
bpromptfuze:  hmmmm checked #ubuntu yet?21:36
fuzenot yet21:37
bpromptfuze:  but what I'd do is, check about the repositories for any alternative nvidia drivers, or maybe even check Nvidia's site for any21:37
CountryfiedLinuxKDE is one of only 3 GNU/Linux desktops that has fractional display scaling. 4 if you count Enlightenment. On Gnome it's still experimental and buggy so doesn't count yet.21:38
CountryfiedLinuxWhy isn't KDE the default DE for Ubuntu?21:38
bpromptCountryfiedLinux:  I use KDE apps, and run kubuntu, however, I do not run Kwin, the themes and such you may be pointing to may just be Kwin GUI, in my case I use LXQT, which is a QT-based light manager21:38
CountryfiedLinuxActually perhaps it's better left to the community. :P21:38
bpromptCountryfiedLinux:  well, why not XFCE? or E! or some other...... they happen to use Gnome, is all21:39
CountryfiedLinuxbprompt: Gnome doesn't scale well at all on 1080p laptop screens. Gnome doesn't neither but it does 2K-5K scaling.21:45
CountryfiedLinuxMost Linux desktops have largely abandoned scaling for 1080p laptops. Funny thing is that's the most common laptop display now.21:45
CountryfiedLinuxKDE, Deepin, and Moksha/Enlightenment understand this.21:46
bpromptCountryfiedLinux:  hmmm don't know.... I've used KDE and QT for a long while, I use GTK apps and they run fine, last I ran Gnome DM was back in Mandrake and SuSE9.2, but don't know, I doubt it21:46
CountryfiedLinuxThe developers that is.21:46
CountryfiedLinuxI like scaling set to 1.25 or 1.3 on small 1080 screens.21:47
bprompthmm I don't use Scaling, I simply change the screen resolution :P21:47
bprompthowever, I've done some screen scaling for folks in say Windows10, they like it, I find it is a bit quirky, some windows or dialogs get truncated now and then21:48
CountryfiedLinuxbprompt: I'd rather do scaling than lower the resolution.21:48
CountryfiedLinuxWindows 10 automatically scales laptops to 125%, same as Deepin.21:49
CountryfiedLinuxActually Deepin is the only GNU/Linux desktop that scales automatically like that.21:49
bpromptyes, but you get truncations21:49
CountryfiedLinuxFractional scaling that is.21:49
IrcsomeBotDullah Twelvyy was added by: Dullah Twelvyy21:52
CountryfiedLinuxXfce on my laptop is fine also. I like the xHiDPI window manager theme just fine. and I set font scaling to 120.21:54
bpromptCountryfiedLinux:  could just be something Gnome may have it on their todo-list21:57
CountryfiedLinuxbprompt: When Wayland is stable it will be fixed, especially with Gtk 4.21:58
jubo2Thank you to everyone who makes Kubuntu happen and people who make the free support happen. Kubuntu is awesome!22:04
CountryfiedLinuxI would be using Manjaro, but graphics performance isn't as good for whatever reason.22:05
CountryfiedLinuxSame for most distros actually. On the Ubuntu base it's much more smooth.22:06
jubo2I'd like to upgrade from 18.04 to 19.10, but there is a piece of software that cannot be found in repos later than 18.04: Synergy https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynergyHowto. Probably helps to understand this is that synergy is free software, but a company has showed up to ask $39 / instance for it. Could I get it safely from the 18.04 repos, without breaking stuff even on a later version?22:09
bpromptjubo2:  why not for now stick with 18.04? mind you that 18.04 is LTS, 19.10 isn't22:11
bpromptjubo2:  and the next LTS is coming up in about 6 months22:12
IrcsomeBot<Schyken> @CountryfiedLinux, MATE does as well.22:12
bpromptjubo2:  could you safely? it depends largely on the app itself, I've done so with many, some have specific dependencies, so if a version of lib goes from 1.03 to 1.04 the app goes poof22:13
IrcsomeBot<Schyken> And so does elementary OS. Though, fine-tuned scaling is more apparent with KDE. It just doesn't do it automatically.22:13
CountryfiedLinuxIrcsomeBot: If you're fine with having your 1080p laptop screen at 100% or 200% scaling, sure.22:15
IrcsomeBot<Schyken> A resolution and scale means nothing.22:16
CountryfiedLinuxSure it does.22:16
IrcsomeBot<Schyken> Screen size is a factor as well. 1080p at 100% is fine at 15".22:16
CountryfiedLinuxIt means my desktop aspects look properly sized and not blurry.22:17
IrcsomeBot<Schyken> Less fine at 13".22:17
IrcsomeBot<Schyken> Once more, screen size.22:17
IrcsomeBot<Schyken> Resolution and scale mean nothing on their own.22:17
CountryfiedLinuxIrcsomeBot: I specifically said laptop.22:17
jubo2Kubuntu is awesome, especially after you run 'sudo apt update && sudo apt install ubuntustudio-installer && ubuntustudio-installer'. I got that set up on an another computer22:17
CountryfiedLinuxFor me 1080p laptop screens need fractional scaling, which few Linux desktops provide. That's why I use Kubuntu. Also for the graphics driver performance on the Ubuntu base.22:18
IrcsomeBot<Schyken> Laptop isn't a size 😅22:18
CountryfiedLinuxIrcsomeBot: Laptops have small screens.22:18
IrcsomeBot<Schyken> Not all of them, and small is still based on perspective.22:18
CountryfiedLinuxPersonal perspective: mine.22:18
IrcsomeBot<Schyken> There are actually mathematical applications for determining DPI adjustments because these things are usually backed by calculations as well.22:19
IrcsomeBot<Schyken> Yeah, but not all laptops are the same, so it helps to be specific because 100% on a 13" screen will be totally different than 100% on a 15" screen, or even 16"-17"22:20
CountryfiedLinuxI think I'd want fractional scaling on any 1080p under 20".22:21
IrcsomeBot<Schyken> Interesting. Do you have any eyesight issues that need to be taken into account?22:21
CountryfiedLinuxI don't think there are many options in the 60-19 inch screens anyhow.22:21
CountryfiedLinuxNope22:22
CountryfiedLinuxI just like to have everything at a comfortable adjustment.22:22
IrcsomeBot<Schyken> Makes sense. I tend to have things at a fairly small scale to maximize space for the content, but I know my mother prefers a larger scale, which is about 25% larger than what I use.22:23
IrcsomeBot<Schyken> On my desktop I use 100% for 1440p on a 24" screen, and on my laptop I use 200% for a 3160p at 13".22:24
CountryfiedLinuxHow do I remove local folders from Kmail?23:00

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