[01:27] <ScottyK> How do I share my current wireless connection on my laptop so my cell phone can use the internet? I created a new connection with the "Wireless-Shared", but the phone doesn't see anything
[04:43] <Thr0r> Hi! Anyone knows if K-ubuntu team is working on KOrganizer for improvements there? Valorie maybe?
[04:44] <valorie> K-Ubuntu?
[04:44] <valorie> we're just kubuntu
[04:44] <Thr0r> ha ha - yes!
[04:44] <valorie> korganizer is part of PIM, right?
[04:44] <Thr0r> right
[04:44] <valorie> I don't know that any of our team is involved there
[04:45] <valorie> Rik is working with the plasma team
[04:45] <valorie> the pim team is very good and active
[04:45] <Thr0r> Who?
[04:45] <valorie> I think their chan is #kde-pim
[04:45] <valorie> lemme check
[04:45] <valorie> who what?
[04:46] <Thr0r> ..what - I mean - channel
[04:46] <Thr0r> #kde-pim is fine - I will check..
[04:46] <valorie> ah, it's #kdepim
[04:46] <valorie> no -
[04:46] <valorie> sorry
[04:47] <Thr0r> ok thanks - Still going strong I see Valorie :) good
[04:47] <valorie> well, that's a tiny chan
[04:47] <valorie> lemme see.....
[04:48] <valorie> ha! it's #kontact
[04:48] <valorie> name of the whole suite
[04:50] <Thr0r> Yes - I belive I have discussed this before with you and there was no development in "kontact" - maybe it is now.. It's a great application but it does not work as it should..
[04:51] <Thr0r> Our discussion back then concluded that google calendar was the one to use - it's a shame for all the "Linux" - ...environment.. really
[04:53] <Thr0r> But - Kubuntu - THAT is the best Linux distro I have ever used.. Perfect!
[04:55] <valorie> :-)
[04:55] <valorie> one of the reasons kontact is behind is that most of the devels have day jobs
[04:56] <valorie> sort of a vicous cycle -- businesses don't use kontact because it's not good enough
[04:56] <valorie> since they don't use it they won't pay for developers
[04:56] <valorie> etc.
[04:58] <Thr0r> Ah - but it's great - it's just that it cannot interact with "notification" system on Linux like other apps.. I CANNOT get ALERTS!! thats crusial to me..
[04:59] <Thr0r> and also recurring alarms is a problem - if I remeber correct..
[05:16] <valorie> dunno
[05:16] <valorie> kmail used to be my absolute favorite, then it stopped working for me
[05:16] <valorie> although I loathe webmail, gmail Just Works for me
[05:17] <valorie> I still miss kmail but .....
[05:20] <Thr0r> Yes - it's a pitty we're stuck with gmail - they grab all our personal information.. The Linux/Ubuntu community should really develop an alternative.. And yes - It should be web-based..
[05:26] <valorie> well, there is squirrel mail
[05:26] <valorie> which is horrible
[05:36] <Thr0r> As long as it is not google or MS or Apple I would embrase it - but it's a pitty that the it's just the integration with "notifications" that is the reason for my problems with Korganizer - and also the recurring alarms.. it should be trivial to fix really - but no-one does it.. :(
[05:50] <valorie> Thr0r: help is always needed
[05:56] <Thr0r> hmm - yes - But I am too old for that kind of stuff.. I'm just a consumer these days.. Development/Coding - long time ago..
[07:00] <Thr0r> They are really helpful in #kontact - NOT. That is a development channel :)
[07:07] <tanghus> Thr0r, valorie: For the first time in years KMail/Akonadi/KOrganizer is working flawlessly for me, and I enjoy it after an involuntary hiatus where I had to use Thunderbird.
[07:08] <valorie> glad to hear it, tanghus!
[07:10] <Thr0r> OK!? And in the calendar function also alarms works and recurring events??
[07:10] <Thr0r> tanghus
[07:10] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:11] <tanghus> Thr0r: I must admit I haven't noticed that. I get notifications on the phone, so hadn't thought about that.
[07:12] <tanghus> When I had to stop using it, I couldn't even get it to show me my emails, so in it's current state it's a great improvement. But I guess you're right about missing notifications.
[07:55] <k_sze> Anybody here uses gvim under Kubuntu?
 Kmail doesn't seem to connect to Gmail so I can't really use it 😪
[08:08] <Thr0r> Maybe we can just say that Kontact is just outdated - as per say.. doesn't work...
[08:10] <OerHeks> how about google changed their API?
 Yeah, it changed some while ago. Some projects didn't seem to take it all that seriously until it no longer worked.
 https://www.dvratil.cz/2019/08/kontact-google-integration-issue/
[11:05] <Ilgaz> Hello all. Is there a way to apply for beta testing latest kde packages?
[11:08] <Ilgaz> How do we apply for a beta account? to test bleeding edge stuff on wayland
 @Schyken, From Reddit: Turn on 2FA for your Google account if it's not on yet. … Go to accounts.google.com -> Security -> Signing in to Google -> App Passwords. … Generate a new password, choose "Other" as the name and enter something like KMail. … In KMail, after you get this error, close all extra windows and go to Settings -> Configure KMail -> Accounts -> Receiving -> [Click on whichever one you want to set up] -> Mod
[11:32] <IrcsomeBot1> -> Advanced -> Authentication and choose PLAIN … After I clicked OK, I got a pop-up saying that Gmail refused to authenticate with the given username/password. I then went to authenticate again using a button in that dialog box. If you don't get this, find some other way to get to that point. … This time, after entering your e-mail address and verifying 2FA, DON'T use your actual password. Instead, use the App Password generated in step 3.
[11:32] <IrcsomeBot1> Just enter it into the password field and press Enter. … KMail should now work with your Gmail account.
 This works. Well, it did, but I no longer have gmail to confirm it still does.
 System Settings - Device Manager no longer working! 🙁
[11:55] <EvilRoey> hi
[11:55] <EvilRoey> how do I downsize a btrfs partition from 200 GB down to 100GB to make way for increasing another btrfs partition from 47 GB to 147 GB? I have that smaller partition for / and then the rest in /home
[12:13] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:28] <IrcsomeBot1> Pavan V R was added by: Pavan V R
[12:33] <MrTux889_> msg NickServ identify Mausi1952
[12:38] <OerHeks> time to change password, MrTux889_
 lol
[12:39] <diogenes_> :)
[12:39] <OerHeks> https://freenode.net/news/services-maintenance-password-security
[12:39] <OerHeks> or use mine: **************
[12:40] <diogenes_> always do such kinds of operations in a separate channel, a random named one like /j #myrandomchannel and then do the reg stuff there.
[12:42] <OerHeks> +1
[13:14] <BluesKaj> preferably do those changes on the server page
[13:51] <user|20469> what are the rewuirement of kubuntu 19.10
[13:52] <user|20469> on macbook air mid 2012 13inch it keeps showing a blink cursor after the kubuntu logo
 @Anarchotaoist, I'm aware. This isn't an adequate solution though.
 I'm willing to wait as I know it's being worked on. Google is usually pretty strict about their allowances though, so I understand it could take some time.
[20:14] <fuze> i updated from 18.04 to 19.10 and my nvidia drivers got messed up. one of my dual monitors has a flickering problem. how do i fix it?
[20:14] <fuze> tried this https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2374405
 Are you using the Nvidia drivers from the PPA or from the default drivers page?
[20:34] <fuze> IrcsomeBot: default drivers
[20:34] <fuze> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/n6MV8Jrb/image.png
[20:35] <fuze> are the ones in the ppa newer or completely different?
 Oooh, okay that's the right ones.
 TYTY @RikMills for pointing out the system notifs for reboots and such. Don't know if I already said it but it helped me out :D … Nothing's really broken, but I have this weird pet peeve when I see two instances of the same thing 😅
[21:00] <fuze> is there a better irc channel for my issue?
[21:12] <bprompt> fuze:  what's your issue anyway? I never saw it, came in a few minutes ago
[21:12] <fuze>  i updated from 18.04 to 19.10 and my nvidia drivers got messed up. one of my dual monitors has a flickering problem. how do i fix it?
[21:13] <fuze> tried this https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2374405
[21:33] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[21:35] <CountryfiedLinux> I installed Kubuntu yesterday. Nice so far.
[21:36] <CountryfiedLinux> Needs more theme development. That's beyond my current abilities.
[21:36] <bprompt> fuze:  hmmmm checked #ubuntu yet?
[21:37] <fuze> not yet
[21:37] <bprompt> fuze:  but what I'd do is, check about the repositories for any alternative nvidia drivers, or maybe even check Nvidia's site for any
[21:38] <CountryfiedLinux> KDE is one of only 3 GNU/Linux desktops that has fractional display scaling. 4 if you count Enlightenment. On Gnome it's still experimental and buggy so doesn't count yet.
[21:38] <CountryfiedLinux> Why isn't KDE the default DE for Ubuntu?
[21:38] <bprompt> CountryfiedLinux:  I use KDE apps, and run kubuntu, however, I do not run Kwin, the themes and such you may be pointing to may just be Kwin GUI, in my case I use LXQT, which is a QT-based light manager
[21:38] <CountryfiedLinux> Actually perhaps it's better left to the community. :P
[21:39] <bprompt> CountryfiedLinux:  well, why not XFCE? or E! or some other...... they happen to use Gnome, is all
[21:45] <CountryfiedLinux> bprompt: Gnome doesn't scale well at all on 1080p laptop screens. Gnome doesn't neither but it does 2K-5K scaling.
[21:45] <CountryfiedLinux> Most Linux desktops have largely abandoned scaling for 1080p laptops. Funny thing is that's the most common laptop display now.
[21:46] <CountryfiedLinux> KDE, Deepin, and Moksha/Enlightenment understand this.
[21:46] <bprompt> CountryfiedLinux:  hmmm don't know.... I've used KDE and QT for a long while, I use GTK apps and they run fine, last I ran Gnome DM was back in Mandrake and SuSE9.2, but don't know, I doubt it
[21:46] <CountryfiedLinux> The developers that is.
[21:47] <CountryfiedLinux> I like scaling set to 1.25 or 1.3 on small 1080 screens.
[21:47] <bprompt> hmm I don't use Scaling, I simply change the screen resolution :P
[21:48] <bprompt> however, I've done some screen scaling for folks in say Windows10, they like it, I find it is a bit quirky, some windows or dialogs get truncated now and then
[21:48] <CountryfiedLinux> bprompt: I'd rather do scaling than lower the resolution.
[21:49] <CountryfiedLinux> Windows 10 automatically scales laptops to 125%, same as Deepin.
[21:49] <CountryfiedLinux> Actually Deepin is the only GNU/Linux desktop that scales automatically like that.
[21:49] <bprompt> yes, but you get truncations
[21:49] <CountryfiedLinux> Fractional scaling that is.
[21:54] <CountryfiedLinux> Xfce on my laptop is fine also. I like the xHiDPI window manager theme just fine. and I set font scaling to 120.
[21:57] <bprompt> CountryfiedLinux:  could just be something Gnome may have it on their todo-list
[21:58] <CountryfiedLinux> bprompt: When Wayland is stable it will be fixed, especially with Gtk 4.
[22:04] <jubo2> Thank you to everyone who makes Kubuntu happen and people who make the free support happen. Kubuntu is awesome!
[22:05] <CountryfiedLinux> I would be using Manjaro, but graphics performance isn't as good for whatever reason.
[22:06] <CountryfiedLinux> Same for most distros actually. On the Ubuntu base it's much more smooth.
[22:09] <jubo2> I'd like to upgrade from 18.04 to 19.10, but there is a piece of software that cannot be found in repos later than 18.04: Synergy https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynergyHowto. Probably helps to understand this is that synergy is free software, but a company has showed up to ask $39 / instance for it. Could I get it safely from the 18.04 repos, without breaking stuff even on a later version?
[22:11] <bprompt> jubo2:  why not for now stick with 18.04? mind you that 18.04 is LTS, 19.10 isn't
[22:12] <bprompt> jubo2:  and the next LTS is coming up in about 6 months
 @CountryfiedLinux, MATE does as well.
[22:13] <bprompt> jubo2:  could you safely? it depends largely on the app itself, I've done so with many, some have specific dependencies, so if a version of lib goes from 1.03 to 1.04 the app goes poof
 And so does elementary OS. Though, fine-tuned scaling is more apparent with KDE. It just doesn't do it automatically.
[22:15] <CountryfiedLinux> IrcsomeBot: If you're fine with having your 1080p laptop screen at 100% or 200% scaling, sure.
 A resolution and scale means nothing.
[22:16] <CountryfiedLinux> Sure it does.
 Screen size is a factor as well. 1080p at 100% is fine at 15".
[22:17] <CountryfiedLinux> It means my desktop aspects look properly sized and not blurry.
 Less fine at 13".
 Once more, screen size.
 Resolution and scale mean nothing on their own.
[22:17] <CountryfiedLinux> IrcsomeBot: I specifically said laptop.
[22:17] <jubo2> Kubuntu is awesome, especially after you run 'sudo apt update && sudo apt install ubuntustudio-installer && ubuntustudio-installer'. I got that set up on an another computer
[22:18] <CountryfiedLinux> For me 1080p laptop screens need fractional scaling, which few Linux desktops provide. That's why I use Kubuntu. Also for the graphics driver performance on the Ubuntu base.
 Laptop isn't a size 😅
[22:18] <CountryfiedLinux> IrcsomeBot: Laptops have small screens.
 Not all of them, and small is still based on perspective.
[22:18] <CountryfiedLinux> Personal perspective: mine.
 There are actually mathematical applications for determining DPI adjustments because these things are usually backed by calculations as well.
 Yeah, but not all laptops are the same, so it helps to be specific because 100% on a 13" screen will be totally different than 100% on a 15" screen, or even 16"-17"
[22:21] <CountryfiedLinux> I think I'd want fractional scaling on any 1080p under 20".
 Interesting. Do you have any eyesight issues that need to be taken into account?
[22:21] <CountryfiedLinux> I don't think there are many options in the 60-19 inch screens anyhow.
[22:22] <CountryfiedLinux> Nope
[22:22] <CountryfiedLinux> I just like to have everything at a comfortable adjustment.
 Makes sense. I tend to have things at a fairly small scale to maximize space for the content, but I know my mother prefers a larger scale, which is about 25% larger than what I use.
 On my desktop I use 100% for 1440p on a 24" screen, and on my laptop I use 200% for a 3160p at 13".
[23:00] <CountryfiedLinux> How do I remove local folders from Kmail?