[00:36] <k3dar7> Unit193: thanks, builded thunar-shares-plugin on 18,04 work
[09:05] <knome> krytarik, no?
[10:03] <xubuntu-focal-te> Hi, just a quick question - does it make sense to test the Xubuntu 20.04 image already for bugs or is this the same as 18.04?
[10:04] <xubuntu-focal-te> I am trying to understand https://dev.xubuntu.org/ but maybe someone can just give me some raw overview? Thank you!
[10:05] <xubuntu-focal-te> I am focussing on this one: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/
[10:05] <bluesabre> xubuntu-focal-te: Yes, always yes with testing! :-) There's new updates to 20.04 every single day, and any one of those can be a fix or a slew of new bugs. The sooner we know about any bugs, the sooner we can get them fixed.
[10:06] <bluesabre> xubuntu-focal-te: We have a set of standard tests found here... this is what we use for go/nogo on release day. http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/408/builds
[10:06] <xubuntu-focal-te> Just to understand the process: is the image coming from 18.04 or from the 19.10 release?
[10:07] <bluesabre> xubuntu-focal-te: dev.xubuntu.org is used to track development progress. We configure blueprints at the beginning of the development cycle, and as they are implemented, they are cleared out there.
[10:08] <bluesabre> xubuntu-focal-te: 20.04 is closest to 19.10, but there are daily package updates that are even newer than 19.10. There's also an active sync of Debian packages until later in the cycle.
[10:10] <bluesabre> xubuntu-focal-te: You can see a broad overview of the release schedule here, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseSchedule. This applies to all official Ubuntu flavors.
[10:11] <xubuntu-focal-te> OK, so the development does not go from LTS 18.04 to LTS 20.04 - instead the development path goes always via the non-lts releases. I undertand that right?
[10:11] <xubuntu-focal-te> btw This page does not exist yet. for the last url
[10:11] <bluesabre> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseSchedule
[10:11] <bluesabre> Sorry, that period probably messed it up
[10:12] <bluesabre> Yeah, development happens in the non-LTS releases between, and usually the LTS development cycle is spent on polishing any remaining issues.
[10:12] <xubuntu-focal-te> OK, thank you ver much for your attention!
[10:12] <bluesabre> Glad to help, thanks for dropping by.
[10:13] <xubuntu-focal-te> And BTW I totally love Xubuntu, best desktop system around for my needs, please keep up the good work! 
[10:13] <bluesabre> Thanks!
[10:14] <xubuntu-focal-te> [ ...even if it is a little it annoying to get around the lightdm quirks, using gdm to have it working, anyway love xfce :) - ready to take the pain for that!  ]
[10:15] <bluesabre> We made some improvements there in 19.10, with more on the way ;)
[10:25] <xubuntu-focal-te> one more q: what is the best site to watch progress for Xubuntu 20.04 - is there a blog? Besides bugtracker I mean.
[10:29] <bluesabre> There's the tracker at dev.xubuntu.org, but it can stay pretty quiet. I do regular development updates at my personal blog, https://bluesabre.org/ as well. There's the development ML at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/, and we try to keep our Twitter relevant, https://twitter.com/Xubuntu
[10:31] <bluesabre> I'm planning to restart this development series, https://bluesabre.org/2018/10/31/xubuntu-development-update-november-2018/, where I posted monthly about all the goings-on
[10:33] <xubuntu-focal-te> Would be definitely interesting to see how the development process works out of your perspective - also for future developers or lurkers that might be interested to get into Xubutu dev one day!
[10:37] <bluesabre> Most of the development is upstream in Xfce, and we patch downstream for any high impact bugs. We have separate artwork, development, website, documentation, and QA teams (and more, each team has their own roadmap at the bottom of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-f-roadmap). We try to fix what we can, but both the Xfce and Xubuntu teams are pretty small and not always active.
[10:37] <bluesabre> We're always looking for new devs, and are currently in need of a new QA lead. :D
[10:38] <bluesabre> Here's our strategy doc that outlines most of how the team works: https://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/xsd.html
[10:39] <bluesabre> Anyway, gotta step out for a bit. Feel free to stick around and ask questions, I'm not the only one around (but I am the chattiest).
[18:06] <flocculant> bluesabre: and people used to want me to shut up :D