[08:38] <cpaelzer> hiho, did we change tests in Focal to no more install "Recommends" ?
[08:38] <cpaelzer> autopkgtests I mean
[08:39] <cpaelzer> If I sapwn an autopkgtest I see a recommends not installed, but if I log into the same env and do "apt install" it consideres recommends - so it is not that there would be a conffile
[08:40] <cpaelzer> seems to be special to the autopkgetest package install
[08:40] <cpaelzer> for the deps that come out pf d/t/control
[08:43] <cpaelzer> bad https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-focal-ci-train-ppa-service-3838/focal/amd64/s/strongswan/20191114_160816_8b50b@/log.gz good https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-focal/focal/amd64/s/strongswan/20191115_065554_930e1@/log.gz
[08:43] <cpaelzer> testcase name "daemon"
[08:43] <cpaelzer> package I wonder behaving differently is "strongswan-charon"
[08:43] <cpaelzer> odd, both run today/tonight so they should behave the same right?
[08:44] <cpaelzer> locally the issue reproduces with old and new (test ppa) binaries
[08:44] <cpaelzer> the fix for this case is clear, it should be a harder dependency anyway - but I wonder what I'm missing on those two test excutions to make them behave so differently
[10:26] <cpaelzer> hmm, is something going on with the builders atm, there are plenty free ones but it started to get (a small) queue
[10:28] <cpaelzer> cjwatson: wgrant: Laney: highlighting you just because you all usually know about the status of the builders ^^
[10:28] <cpaelzer> nothing urgent at all, just wondering
[10:40] <cpaelzer> FYI: builders picked things up - so things seem to work (although at a slight delay maybe?)
[10:52] <cjwatson> cpaelzer: That happens sometimes.  Nothing sinister AFAICS; there was a batch of language pack updates which usually cause a brief spike.
[10:53] <cjwatson> cpaelzer: Also, small queue reported on /builders even though there are free builders means private packages waiting for publication before they can build.
[10:53] <cjwatson> cpaelzer: Nothing you need to worry about.
[11:22] <cpaelzer> great, good to know - thanks cjwatson
[14:19] <The_LoudSpeaker> Unit193: I just saw the patch. It says it conditionally uses dm-tool or gdmflexiserver. The problem is, we don't have dm-tool. It comes with lightdm afaik. Correct me if I am wrong but I don't see dm-tool with sddm. Nor do I see gdmflexiserver.
[14:20] <The_LoudSpeaker> Sorry for late reply. irssinotifier didn't start again on reboot.
[14:23] <Unit193> I don't know sddm, if there's a good way to detect use and a tool in sddm to do the same, add it to the wrapper in Debian and then start using it.  That way everyone benefits.
[14:23] <The_LoudSpeaker> Yup! Running dm-tool -v on Elementary OS gives it as lightdm 1.26.0
[14:24] <The_LoudSpeaker> Okay. I will add it to wrapper and then use it once I find it.
[14:24] <The_LoudSpeaker> I asked #sddm those folks said there's a dbus we can use. I am trying to find out exactly which one.
[14:24] <Unit193> There's "support" for kdm in there, it seems the KDE/etc people don't care too much about it. :P
[14:26] <The_LoudSpeaker> Kde doesn't use screensaver. I pinged them once. I will ping again. :)
[14:26] <The_LoudSpeaker> *xscreensaver
[14:33] <Unit193> Heh, certainly not, KDM is long gone from what I know. :P
[17:13] <mdeslaur> rbasak, Skuggen: FYI, the wordpress setup script in eoan and focal needs updating for mysql 8.0: bug 1852775
[17:16] <Skuggen> mdeslaur: Ah, thanks. Looks like the same GRANT ... IDENTIFIED BY issue we've seen for some other packages as well
[20:08] <vorlon> doko: fwiw your py2-d-u-diff.sh seems to truncate some things (or else the report its pulling from does), software-center-aptdaemon-plugins is truncated as software-center-aptdaemon-