[12:15] <BluesKaj> HI folks
 ksysguard in foacl now has the per-process network information plugin built and enabled. looks ok to me, but please have a try with it
 should show a download and upload rate column for each process
[18:51] <crydotsnake-M> Good evening everybody! :). 
[20:07] <santa_> good evening everybody
[20:14] <santa_> RikMills: ping (if you have a few mins)
[20:15] <RikMills> santa_: hi
[20:16] <santa_> RikMills: sup
[20:16] <santa_> so, first of all, test rebuilds:
[20:17] <santa_> _archive -> http://tritemio-area51.duckdns.org/build-status/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp3/
[20:17] <santa_> _staging -> http://tritemio-area51.duckdns.org/build-status/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp3/
[20:17] <santa_> I'm building right now your ksysguard fix, thank you very much
[20:18] <santa_> if you open the applications pages you will see lokalize started to FTBFS
[20:18] <RikMills> I stole it from kinit. Seems to work
[20:19] <santa_> lokalize fails because of its tests, but I didn't have much time to look into it
[20:19] <RikMills> which server? you have a few :P
[20:21] <santa_> both
[20:21] <santa_> area51 and groomlake
[20:22] <santa_> an obvious stop in gap solution is disabling the test execution but that could hide the real problem
[20:23] <RikMills> this is 19.08.3?
[20:23] <santa_> yes
[20:24] <santa_> relevant part of the build log: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6QpSgctf8p/
[20:25] <RikMills> well, obvious thing is to trigger actual tests on the archiove package against itself in the release pocket. see if there is that regression on the ubuntu infra
[20:26] <santa_> it's not an autopkgtest, if that's what you think
[20:27] <santa_> the test is being executed by debian/rules
[20:27] <RikMills> right
[20:27] <RikMills> sorry
[20:27] <santa_> so we could override it in debian/rules as a stop-in-gap solution, yet that could hide the real problem
[20:28] <santa_> anyway, I just wanted to make you aware of this. this saturday if I have time I could try to fix it
[20:28] <santa_> so move to next topic[y/n]?
[20:30] <RikMills> ok. the timrzone error looks a little familiar. like I saw a similar fail on an autotest in that few days. can't recall what though. I'll dig through my browser history
[20:31] <RikMills> *in the last few days
[20:31] <RikMills> y
[20:33] <santa_> allright, so next thing are those pim packaging changes from debian
[20:34] <RikMills> ok
[20:34] <santa_> I think, I hope, I will have time this saturday, so if you are around by then we could work toghether on that
[20:35] <RikMills> I think I will be. lets aim for that for now
[20:35] <santa_> ok, right now my idea is importing these changes after doing any merge
[20:36] <santa_> following the same spirit of that good autopkgtest removals you did
[20:36] <santa_> what I don't know yet is if we should do it manually or write a script or what
[20:37] <RikMills> yeah, I was thinking of doing it with merges once the PIM 19.08 in experimental goes to unstable
[20:37] <RikMills> or before if we think that is ok to merge from
[20:37] <santa_> I have reasons to think they did it with a script in debian, so maybe we could reuse it
[20:38] <santa_> I think it would be nice to get it done in advance
[20:38] <RikMills> my plan until now was....
[20:38] <santa_> note that I want to tweak a bit our merge script from KA - making it pylint clean so it would be harder to break
[20:39] <RikMills> (a) match all abi bumped libs where we are not ahead
[20:39] <RikMills> (b) remove symbols
[20:39] <RikMills> (c) apply the virtual abi stuff
[20:40] <santa_> hmm, indeed we could need to sync the package names first
[20:41] <RikMills> it would just make things simpler going forward, if nothing else
[20:41] <santa_> that makes me think, indeed, it would be better to get this whole thing sorted out before merges
[20:42] <RikMills> yes, we need to have a clear strategy on this
[20:43] <santa_> I was planning to add some code for the merging script to deal with the abi package names mismatch between debian and kubuntu
[20:43] <santa_> but probably I should cancel that
[20:44] <RikMills> yeah. lets just match them. I think that makes more sense.
[20:45] <RikMills> things will have to rebuild against virtual abi packages anyway, so keeping a difference unless we have is pointless
[20:46] <santa_> ok, so all of that being said, at this point you should know what I'm about to do right now...
[20:46]  * RikMills is about to open another beer
[20:46] <RikMills> which may be why my typing is a bit dodgy
[20:47] <santa_> haha
[20:47] <santa_> https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/black-operations/virtual-pim/
[20:48] <RikMills> ok
[20:49] <santa_> 'cause I'm at war against everyone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pymm6cmE9uQ :P
[20:50] <santa_> feel free to edit the wiki page, I plan to add some info we gathered
[20:50] <santa_> so ... move to next topic[y/n]?
[20:50] <RikMills> y
[20:50] <santa_> kirigami2
[20:50] <santa_> they are 2 things:
[20:51] <santa_> - apparently there is a tarball with a hotfix
[20:51] <RikMills> hotfix uploaded
[20:51] <santa_> - last time I cheked still provides the kirigami-gallery binary package
[20:52] <RikMills> It did, until I did a ubuntu2 on the hotfix upload
[20:52] <RikMills> now it does not
[20:52] <santa_> ah, I see nevermind then
[20:53] <RikMills> because launchpad threw me back upload errors!!!
[20:53] <RikMills> seems it has some use
[20:53] <santa_> thank you very much the kirigami-gallery bin was hindering sometimes my test rebuilds for that exact same reason
[20:53] <santa_> rebuilding the thing on my servers...
[20:54] <RikMills> better late than never...
[20:54] <santa_> Y
[20:55] <santa_> move to next topic[y/n]?
[20:55] <RikMills> y
[20:55] <santa_> ok, let me check my handwritten notes...
[20:55] <RikMills> handwritten?????????????/
[20:56] <santa_> written with a fountain pen in fact
[20:56] <santa_> not as expensive as Dijkstra's one
[20:57] <RikMills> right. I am taking the P. I have a A5 notebook I jot down Kubuntu todo stuff in
[20:57] <RikMills> I just use pencil
[20:58] <santa_> cheap Parker model here
[20:58] <santa_> ok, so I found it
[20:58] <RikMills> for some reason I ruin nibs
[20:58] <santa_> plasma-thundervolt has a typo in the changelog + not in the archive + not updated to latest version
[20:58] <RikMills> I think I have a funny pen holding angle or something
[20:59] <santa_> I know, that's a pity. fountain pens are the best in the world
[21:00] <RikMills> I was sort waiting for debian to get their backside into gear on thunderbolt. they don't seem in a hurry to do new plasma though :(
[21:00] <RikMills> so yes, may think about sorting this ens
[21:00] <RikMills> *end
[21:00] <santa_> do you mind if I update to latest version + fix the typo?
[21:01] <RikMills> JFDI as Simon likes to say
[21:01] <santa_> lol, doing...
[21:03] <santa_> s/thundervolt/thunderbolt/ ↑
[21:03] <RikMills> I got it :)
[21:16] <santa_> RikMills: so ... thile this thing builds, move to last topic[y/n]?
[21:16] <RikMills> y
[21:17] <santa_> ok, KA
[21:17] <santa_> I just wanted to say I plan to do some small changes here and there so I might want to do some fw packaging releases myself
[21:18] <RikMills> ok
[21:19] <santa_> for instance, I didn't remove yet the branch checking from gbp-nr yet
[21:19] <santa_> it would take a lot of time to fake a fw release just to test that small thing
[21:20] <santa_> speaking of which maybe one of these years I could figure out something simple to fake kde releases
[21:20] <santa_> so ... that's it, I will ping you back one plasma-thundervolt is ready
[21:21] <santa_> plasma-thunderbolt damn it
[21:21] <santa_> s/one/once/
[21:24] <RikMills> santa_: ok. I have one thin on ka. ka-sync-archive handles new files but does no sync file deletion
[21:24] <RikMills> *one thing
[21:25] <RikMills> so I played with this:
[21:25] <RikMills> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2TBRgbZ88m/
[21:25] <RikMills> seems to work
[21:26] <RikMills> the -v can probably be dropped
[22:01] <santa_> sorry got distracted talking to my father
[22:02] <santa_> RikMills: the KA change _looks_ cool, if you tested it works feel free to push to master
[22:02] <santa_> btw I would like to release what we have in master as beta1 as soon as we get the branch checking removal done
[22:03] <santa_> RikMills: wrt plasma-thunderbolt, I have seen you already did .3 https://launchpadlibrarian.net/451133949/plasma-thunderbolt_5.17.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu20.04~ppa1_5.17.3-0ubuntu1~ubuntu20.04~ppa1.diff.gz
[22:04] <santa_> so could you check if you have the branches pushed?
[22:07] <santa_> * so could you please check ... :)
[22:07] <RikMills> santa_: ah. I think I probably deleted that clone so as to not build it for the archive, but wrongly did that before pushing changes
[22:07] <RikMills> :(
[22:07] <RikMills> I don't have it
[22:08] <santa_> ok, no prob I will sync and take care of the lintian overrides
[22:08] <RikMills> kool
[22:34] <santa_> RikMills: pushed
[22:38] <santa_> related to why this is not yet in the ubuntu archive, an old man explains what's wrong with Debian's mighty NEW queue:
[22:39] <santa_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ9B3_S4IUM
[22:40]  * santa_ leaves
[22:40] <santa_> good night everybody
[22:57] <mparillo> Santa arranges an application of free minds to development of free software.