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sarnoldgp: bsdtar can do it https://github.com/libarchive/libarchive/wiki/LibarchiveFormats00:01
aleksandrdvorkincan somebody help me i am trying to setup the Zen Cart at this link https://websiteforstudents.com/install-zen-cart-on-ubuntu-17-04-17-10-with-apache2-mariadb-and-php-support00:05
gpsarnold: Thanks00:06
OerHeksmore recent  howto .. https://hostadvice.com/how-to/how-to-install-and-configure-zen-cart-on-an-ubuntu-18-04-vps-or-dedicated-server/00:06
OerHeksyour url should be altered to php7.2 ..00:07
OerHeks!info php7.2 bionic00:08
ubottuphp7.2 (source: php7.2): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage). In component main, is optional. Version 7.2.24-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 (bionic), package size 9 kB, installed size 86 kB00:08
renata444Hey since the 19.10 upgrade. I lost the ability to control my volume, in XUBUNTU and its xfce. The controls on my keyboard activate the animation for wolume which moves up and down but the sound is unchanged. Same with using mouse to click speaker. I have to go into the audio mixer_> Output and click "set as fallback" check arrow on my device.00:14
renata444System is not remembering that setting either and goes away when I reboot. I do not know enough about Linux to solve this. Please point me in the direction00:14
sarnoldrenata444: if you don't get any answers here you may wish to try in #xubuntu too00:16
AscavasaionAny idea why PCManFM closes (crashes?) when I unmount a device?00:18
sarnoldif you run it from a terminal do you see any error messages printed when it dies?00:20
aleksandrdvorkinOerHerks thanks actually helped me get by the Database setup not allowing acces to Mysql00:25
KazDaxI am trying to install ubuntu in virtual box but i am having no luck ...It crashes right after the formating scene00:46
KazDaxright now its showing me a blank screen right after i choose to format and install the ubuntu00:46
compdocI havent used vb in a long time, but how much ram are you giving?00:47
KazDax2 gig i believe00:47
KazDaxits now saying error failed to send host log message00:47
compdocdo you ahve a choice of type of video hardware?00:48
KazDaxlet me check00:48
KazDaxthis is a new device ..it is a alienware00:48
KazDaxbut ususally i never have luck running ubuntu under virtual box on any system00:48
compdocI mean for the guest00:48
compdocits the newest version of vb?00:49
KazDaxyes00:49
KazDaxits now saying out fo memory00:49
KazDaxmaybe i havnt given 2 gigs00:49
KazDaxlet me check00:49
KazDaxi have given 1 gig00:51
KazDaxdisplay is given 16 mb00:51
KazDaxi think that might be a problem00:51
KazDaxgraphic controller is called VMSVGA00:51
sarnoldKazDax: try giving closer to three gigs; I think there's a snapd issue that caused it to use somnewhere around 2.5 gigs ram during install00:51
KazDaxnow it just hows me a blank screen..when i on the vm00:53
KazDaxhold on a sec00:54
shadoxx_Hey, anyone have experience with LVM volumes on an ISCSI target on Ubuntu 18.04 server on kernel 5.0.0-32?00:56
shadoxx_Systemd 237 I believe. ISCSI pv refuses to come back up after a reboot. seems like a common issue with no resolution online. i'm starting to wonder if I set the initial pv/lvm incorrectly00:57
shadoxx_I did a pvcreate on the raw iscsi lun, with just a simple gpt partition table.00:57
shadoxx_Should I throw the pv in a huge partition? Though it was my understanding physical volumes can be on raw LUNs00:58
shadoxx_and this is a 36TB LUN00:58
shadoxx_i can't even get pvscan pvchange lvchange to recognize the pv exists. but if i go through the creation process again with all default vaules, everything shows up and the data is there00:59
shadoxx_i would consider myself an expert user, but wow. this has me hitting a wall.00:59
KazDaxits working now00:59
KazDaxso some system process takes more than 2.5 of ram to install the ubuntu ?00:59
KazDaxi also up the ram provided to the vm gpu ..so i dont know which one solved the problem01:00
sarnoldKazDax: yeah, I think it's part of snapd's first boot steps01:02
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fleabeardhello friends, is there any software available for ubuntu that allows me to plot a network? I usually do so in Visio or Cisco Packet Tracer in Windows,but wondered if anything exists for ubuntu that could meet this need?01:32
sarnoldfleabeard: almost too many choices; dia and xfig are ancient, if we still package them at all.. inkscape is much newer and probably nicer but I don't know how well it does for diagram kind of things01:34
sarnolddot and graphviz and various latex graphing packages may be easier to do programmatically01:34
fleabeardhey thanks, that gives me a starting point at least :)01:34
flogI always find visio bulky to create network diagrams.01:34
fleabeardyeah,it really is!01:34
flogCreating diagrams from spread sheets/lits would be awesome.01:36
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flogsarnold: thank for the tips01:43
sarnoldflog :)01:43
sarnoldmy pleasure01:43
flogEven though its not strictly ubuntu related.01:43
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bryguypghI just did "mv /olddrive/myfiles ~/" but I forgot I had a symlink from ~/myfiles to /olddrive/myfiles. Now the original dir seems to be gone02:09
bryguypgham i screwed or can this be undone?02:09
bryguypghsurprised that it silently let me write them out of existence02:10
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renata444Hey since the 19.10 upgrade. I lost the ability to control my volume, in XUBUNTU and its xfce. The controls on my keyboard activate the animation for wolume which moves up and down but the sound is unchanged. Same with using mouse to click speaker. I have to go into the audio mixer_> Output and click "set as fallback" check arrow on my device.02:20
renata444System is not remembering that setting either and goes away when I reboot. I do not know enough about Linux to solve this. Please point me in the direction02:20
renata444its like the system does not remember which audio device is default so it assigns none.02:21
renata444Im assuming there is a file, where I can edit and set my line out s he default audio02:22
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warsoulwhats the correct command to update?04:16
lotuspsychje!uptodate04:17
ubottuTo ensure you have all the latest known patches and security updates for your ubuntu installation, please update with the following command: `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade`. See also !upgrades and !security; you may also need to run `apt full-upgrade`.04:17
cluelesspersonokay, wth04:19
cluelesspersonI'm randomly getting these events04:19
cluelesspersonNov 19 20:19:41 ztab acpid: completed netlink event "ibm/hotkey LEN0268:00 00000080 00001311"04:19
cluelesspersonjust started today.04:19
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bionicpup64_1518HELP have to install in safe mode then when done wont load04:40
tomreynbionicpup64_1518: do you have any more details, such as what you'Re installing, and what you're installing it on?04:41
bionicpup64_1518ubuntu 19 on dell alienware 51m04:41
bionicpup64_1518with rtx208004:41
tomreyn"safe mode" is a windows term, please describe what you're doing as a result of which error messages and / or unexpected situation04:42
tomreyn!YY.MM04:42
ubottuUbuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle04:42
bionicpup64_1518ubuntu 19.1004:42
bionicpup64_1518ubuntu 18.04 wont even load for me04:43
tomreynis windows still installed? you should ensure you run the latest bios first of all04:43
bionicpup64_1518just tring to install it04:43
bionicpup64_1518i do04:43
bionicpup64_1518and i have04:43
tomreynvery well. so what happens when you boot the 19.10 desktop (i assume?) installer normally?04:44
bionicpup64_1518no wont install normal04:44
bionicpup64_1518have to pick safe video mode something like that04:45
bionicpup64_1518it loads installs04:45
tomreynokay, so i assume you're saying you get no graphical output when you boot normally04:45
bionicpup64_1518then when i have top reboot screen dont work at all have weird lines thru it04:45
bionicpup64_1518yes04:45
bionicpup64_1518or it get hung up on the purple screen sometimes04:45
tomreynso you did an installation in failsafe graphics mode, but you're saying the system won't boot afterwards? did the installation ducceed without errors, though?04:47
bionicpup64_1518no errors04:47
bionicpup64_1518nothing04:47
bionicpup64_1518thats why i am stumped04:47
tomreynduring installation or during boot?04:48
bionicpup64_1518durning boot04:48
bionicpup64_1518and install04:48
bionicpup64_1518nothing04:48
tomreyndoes grub menu show when you hit escape repeatedly during boot?04:48
bionicpup64_1518never tried that04:49
bionicpup64_1518still kinda new to geting linux on my pc and learning it04:49
tomreynit would give you access to the recovery menu, so you may want to try this now.04:50
bionicpup64_1518ok will try04:50
bionicpup64_1518ty04:50
tomreyn!recovery04:51
ubottuIf your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode04:51
tomreynsee this link for more info04:51
tomreynoh and look for an ethernet wire already, you'll likely need it initially.04:53
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flogGot two usb-sticks connected to my machine but none of them are detected. sudo fdisk -l wont show them.06:34
EdFletcherT137flog: what does `sudo lsusb` show?06:34
flogNothing to do with usb-sticks unfortunately06:35
EdFletcherT137flog: nothing in dmesg either?06:35
EdFletcherT137or syslog?06:35
flogHav enot tried mounting usbdrives previously. Installed jmtpfs and mtp-tools to transfere files from my android phone.06:36
flogBut when that did not work i was gonna transfer on usb stick instead. but now they dont list either.06:36
flogShould ubuntu automount usb-drives?06:41
bagirayep06:42
blue1pm -- yes they should auto-mount -- sometimes it doesn't get the interrupt, and you have to remove and try again.06:42
blue1This may/may not help:  http://www.pkill-9.com/mount-usb-micro-sd-card-linux-automount/06:43
flogI was thinking jmptfs messed with somethnig06:43
tioxSo right fun fact, at least for Ubuntu MATE; if you used symlinks for the big five home directories handled usually by XDG and reinstall the system their directory-specific icons are not preserved in the process, so you'd have to sign out, go into a TTY to delete the links, remake the directories, reassign via XDG the directories, sign in to confirm the icons are restored, then sign out, delete directories, re-make the links and then the06:51
tiox links will have the usual icons in your home.06:51
tioxKinda dumb but that's a thing.06:52
Fudgehi, just plugged in hp wireless keyboard and am not sure how to reverse function keys so they perform as f1-12 without fn key being used. any advice?07:43
linuxperiaHi all. I need to install AMD Vega 64 GPU Driver for Ubuntu 19.10 but AMD only Provides Driver for 18.04. How can i install the AMD Vega 64 GPU Driver on my Ubuntu 19.10 from official Repository ? Which packages need to be Installed ?07:59
AugustusCaesar24how do you guys get ready for an update08:41
AugustusCaesar24i have nginx and ufw08:41
AugustusCaesar24i told ufw to only allow from my ip address08:42
AugustusCaesar24do i have to tell nginx too?08:42
roryAugustusCaesar24: ufw controls traffic that will reach your PC, before it gets to nginx. There is no practical need to do both, apart from security through layers.08:59
roryAugustusCaesar24: not sure what your question is about an update.08:59
AugustusCaesar24if youre going to update your project do you block the other ips while updating or do you just do git pull and update?09:00
AugustusCaesar24are there any steps i should take while im updating and testing the website while someone else might also be on the website09:00
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bagiraAugustusCaesar24: what some folks do if they've built an HA solution is a blue/green deployment, where they deploy to one node after pulling it out of rotation, test there, and if it passes, start swapping out with the others09:01
AugustusCaesar24i only have one server though and i think only one node09:02
sveinseI'm trying to get my external DP screen working from a Lenovo P51 dock on 19.10. This works with 18.04, and I remember I had to tweak some configs to set it up. However I've forgotten what I did. Any pointers to what I can do?09:02
AugustusCaesar24i was thinking about stopping everyone else from getting to the website except me and test and then put it back up09:02
sveinseOne notable difference is that gnome screen settings does not show more than one monitor. It shows two in 18.0409:02
bagiraAugustusCaesar24: sure.  you could also have your deployment system turn access off for everyone but it, run some automated tests (python.requests) and verify everything's working, then fix the access to open again09:03
bagiracuts down on time09:03
AugustusCaesar24gotcha09:04
bagiraAugustusCaesar24: you really should develop local, test in a non-produciton environment, and then promote to production when it's in good shape, at the very least though09:04
AugustusCaesar24would i then only open 443 and 80 and 80/tcp and 443/tcp for me and close the rest right?09:04
AugustusCaesar24yeah thats what im doing currently09:04
bagira80/443 is your standard http ports.  i didn't build your app, you did, only you know what ports you need09:05
AugustusCaesar24im learning currently so chances are im thinking too much or something09:05
AugustusCaesar24i think if i just git pull and restart nginx it should work correctly09:05
bagiragit is not a deployment component09:06
bagiranever use a pull deployment method09:06
bagirapush, push, push09:06
bagirawhat you use to deploy to your lower environment should be what you use to deploy to production09:07
bagiraotherwise your deployments are not consistent09:07
bagirabetween environments09:07
AugustusCaesar24should i not be using git to deploy to production?09:07
bagirano you should not09:07
AugustusCaesar24what should i be using then09:07
bagiraanything else that involves a "push" instead of a "pull"09:08
bagirai recommend jenkins09:08
AugustusCaesar24thank you ill check it out09:09
bagiraAugustusCaesar24: you can save alot of time if you have your jenkins host watch your repo for pushes to master to automatically kick off a deployment to your lower environment, and then also watch your "PRODUCTION" branch for merges to push to your production environment09:09
bagirathen you can test in lower, merge to production branch to kick off the production deployment09:10
AugustusCaesar24thats genius!09:10
sveinsehmm, for some reason xorg on 19.10 is unable to detect my DP monitor, while 18.04 does. Am I missing some components?09:10
AugustusCaesar24respect to you young sir09:10
AugustusCaesar24jenkins is cool!09:10
AugustusCaesar24thats very smart09:10
bagirait stops being cool the moment you get paid to use it09:11
AugustusCaesar24im currently just doing everything by hand09:11
AugustusCaesar24yeah youre right09:11
AugustusCaesar24im currently not on a job so everything is still cool and fun for me09:11
AugustusCaesar24i think once i start getting paid for it the fun will go away09:11
bagirai might recommend after you get a crude deployment job created for each environment that you then rewrite them to package your application using your target server's built in package manager format.  ubuntu is deb.09:12
bagiraand then store the deb in a repository that those servers have access to09:12
bagirathen you can use a configuration management tool like ansible to update, much cleaner09:12
AugustusCaesar24bagira thank you for telling me about jenkins09:19
AugustusCaesar24im gonna learn about it09:19
bagiranp09:19
sveinseI have to give up for now and revert to 18.04 :( I have too much to do to struggle with display and gfx settings right now. I'll have to look at this later09:29
bagirawhat have you tried?09:30
bagiraI believe AMD has a generic blob for those chipsets sveinse09:31
sveinseI've looked at the xorg logs to see if it at all detect my external screen. But it doesn't so I'm not sure what to do next09:31
Ben64i'd suggest sticking with LTS releases anyway09:31
Ben64but the xorg logs wouldn't necessarily be the right place to look for it09:32
sveinseI'm running nvidia drivers and prime-select tells me that it is using nvidia. Running nvidia was the solution to get 18.04 up IIRC09:32
bagiraI'm sorry did you say you're running nvidia drivers for your AMD card?  O_0 I must be tired09:34
sveinseWho started talking about amd?09:34
sveinseso, yeah, you're probably tired :D09:35
bagirai have no idea why i thought you said you had an AMD card now.  please disregard.09:36
sveinsenp09:36
linuxperiaHi all. I need to install AMD Vega 64 GPU Driver for Ubuntu 19.10 Server but AMD only Provides Driver for 18.04. How can i install the AMD Vega 64 GPU Driver on my Ubuntu 19.10 Server from official Repository ?09:40
Ben64linuxperia: those should be in the kernel now i'd think09:42
bagirathere it is09:43
linuxperiaBen64: bagira: hmmm but when i do clinfo my card is not displayed. maybe somehow i removed it becouse when i first installed ubuntu it shoed the card now not anymore09:44
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linuxperiastrange. i just maked a query with clinfo but this time using sudo and it show my gpu card details now ! however why do i need to execute it as sudo ? all programms that need access the dies will need sudo access to for the gpu this is bad.10:02
lotuspsychjelinuxperia: some commands need sudo, to show full info10:07
linuxperiaahh i found out what the problem is. when i dont use ssh then everything works. but when i use ssh and execute clinfo then it does not work. hmm some recomend that i use display export DISPLAY=:010:08
Apachezit seems that google chrome and chromium casuses these logs:  "gnome-shell[1824]: [7040:1:1120/110852.723234:ERROR:child_process_sandbox_support_impl_linux.cc(81)] FontService unique font name matching request did not receive a response."  any hint on how to fix it (googling this doesnt really help because this is included in many logdumps)?10:12
bagiraApachez: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/content/child/child_process_sandbox_support_impl_linux.cc10:14
Apachezso does my ubuntu installation miss something for that to occur?10:16
Apachezor is it just that some page requests lets say "Verdana" and that isnt installed?10:16
bagiraApachez: no it's a benign error10:16
Apachezshitty logging entry too that doesnt tell me WHICH font it think is missing :(10:17
lotuspsychje!language | Apachez10:17
ubottuApachez: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList10:17
Apachezlotuspsychje: you are hurting my feelings10:17
lalitmeeAnyone has a solution for this issue?  https://askubuntu.com/q/1118446/671649?stw=210:24
foophihi e1-need to test a laptop that just crashes running any os-can anyone recommend a tool to use from terminal to find hardware issues, it crashes during boot gui load or when alot of demand is put on it lol its old, so alot isnt much =)11:11
foophisorry crashes during ubuntu D.E GUI11:11
foophihave booted in the past but crashed later on while loading fire fox and checking for updates11:12
foophii know google yeilds results but would like to use something recent and linux based11:14
OerHeksstart a live iso and do a memtest86 run for a start? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FaultyHardware11:16
robertparkerxhow do I use :1,$s/^M//g in vi11:35
foophiplease help me out re hardware fault testing tools (live cd or terminal11:36
foophiOerHeks, thanks i only just saw your reply11:38
Priceyrobertparkerx: just enter those characters while in command mode.11:45
Priceyrobertparkerx: Be really careful running commands you don't fully understand though.11:45
Priceyrobertparkerx: That one looks like it goes to line 1 then replaces some control characters (been messing with windows/unix line endings?) with nothing, so deleting them.11:45
Priceyrobertparkerx: If you don't know what "command mode" is, then I would recommend a vi tutorial first. (`vi filename`, then type those characters and hit enter, then type `:wq`)11:46
robertparkerxok11:52
omega_doomhello. Can anyone help to solve a problem if nvidia opencl device has missed?12:09
raddyHello Everybody12:09
raddyI am trying diagnose keypair authentication issues in ubuntu12:10
BluesKajHI folks12:15
omega_doomHow to check if a video driver is loaded?12:19
omega_doomLooks like i cannot access nvidia card.12:19
BluesKajomega_doom,  lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' , include the quotes12:20
omega_doomBluesKaj: thanks.12:23
omega_doomKernel driver in use: i91512:23
omega_doomKernel driver in use: i91512:23
omega_doomKernel driver in use: nvidia12:23
omega_doomBut opengl apps are crashing.12:24
BluesKajomega_doom,  is this an Optimus equipped hybrid gpu laptop?, seems so12:25
omega_doomBluesKaj: Probably, yes.12:26
BluesKaj!optimus12:27
ubottuUbuntu uses nvidia-prime to support optimus videocards.12:27
BluesKajomega_doom, ^12:27
OerHeksmaybe it helps to disable onboard intel, nvidia only, in your bios12:27
KazDaxi am trying to use sudo12:30
KazDaxi want to install inetsim12:31
KazDaxhow do i properly use sudo so i can do this12:31
KazDaxecho .....12:31
KazDaxetc etc12:31
KazDaxsu ?12:31
BluesKajKazDax,  sudo apt install inetsim12:32
KazDaxit says could not get a lock12:32
KazDax/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend - open12:33
OerHekssofwarecenter open, and now terminal too?12:33
OerHeksuse 1 instance, please.12:33
BluesKajKazDax,  do you have your package manager open ?12:34
KazDaxonly the terminal is open12:34
KazDaxno i never opened it since i booted up the machine12:34
OerHeksoh, then there are unattended updates running, i guess12:34
OerHekshit the update icon and see12:34
KazDaxya12:35
omega_doomubottu: i think i have nvidia-prime installed. I can switch between intel and nvidia. But i have crash if i run an opengl application.12:35
ubottuomega_doom: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)12:35
BluesKajthat usually runs in the background after booting up12:35
KazDaxokay i will get the inetsim running...now i know what to do12:36
KazDaxthanks alot12:36
BluesKajHey OerHeks12:37
KazDaxhow do you setup a static ip address of an ubuntu machine ?12:41
BluesKajKazDax,  there are several tutorials available if you search the 'net12:42
OerHeksKazDax, just edit network manager, your connection12:42
OerHeksor do this in your router; macfilter i think12:43
Ben64best to set it in the router, so it can avoid handing out something that would conflict12:47
MalgorathAnyone here ever get 2 nvidia cards(different models) working for 3 monitors? (non SLI)12:50
OerHeksMalgorath, you crosspost, and type different info in ##linux, why?12:54
MalgorathOerHeks, neither one has conflicting information I just wanted to be more generic in here as most people in here are more on the beginner side12:55
BluesKajMalgorath,  uhm, you're mistaken12:56
MalgorathBluesKaj, I'm going from my experience, I have not taken a survey of knowledge here or there12:57
OerHeksso, what answers did you get in other channels?12:57
MalgorathOerHeks, I was told yes it will work and that's about the gist of it. I have no experience doing this I'm just trying to get my work PC to linux and 3 monitors without using the stupid USB video adapter I have currently.12:58
MalgorathOerHeks, ?13:10
MalgorathAh nevermind OerHeks I see your only goal was to be abusive because you feel I shouldn't cross post even though since 1994 when I started on IRC it has never been an issue.13:17
leftyfbI've been on IRC since 1993. crossposting has always been frowned upon. On other networks, they would just kick/ban the person.13:28
westorany ETA when ubuntu 19.04 will be LTS ?13:44
leftyfbwestor: that's not how LTS works13:45
OerHeks19.04 is not *LTS*, 9 months support, so that would be januari13:45
westorhow LTS works then ?13:45
westorso the 19.04 will never gonna be LTS ?13:46
OerHeks18.04 is, and next 20.0413:46
leftyfbwestor: 19.04 will be completely EOL come January. Every 2 years is an LTS release. 14.04, 16.04, 18.04, 20.0413:46
westorah13:46
westorgot it13:46
leftyfbwestor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases13:47
westorso 20.04 is in development ?13:47
leftyfbwestor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS13:47
leftyfbwestor: yes13:47
leftyfbwestor: they just released the development daily images yesterday I think13:47
OerHeks!fossa13:47
ubottuUbuntu 20.04 (Focal Fossa) will be the 32nd release of Ubuntu, scheduled for April 2020 ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseSchedule ). It will be a long-term support release. Join #ubuntu+1 for support and questions.13:47
rorySounds fiesty.13:48
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lotuspsychjerory: these days devel versions get updates pushed pretty quickly, alot of 20.04 testers already, in #ubuntu+1 that is13:48
rorythe next versions seems to open for development very soon after each release. I get the email, but I don't know what it means to be open for development.13:53
Agneeesgood morning13:53
lotuspsychjewelcome Agneees13:55
AgneeesI have an issue with firefox on ubuntu 18.04. when I open a lot of tabs (I'd say more than 8), firefox freezes. In this situation, the mouse pointer moves very slowly, but the click doesn't seem to work, the keyboard is unresponsive13:58
AgneeesSo I can't move to a different window, alt+F2 doesn't work. Sometimes after 10 min of efforts I manage to clic on my xterm, and kill firefox, but most of the time, I just end up doing a hard reboot13:59
maharg101how much ram have you got Agneees ?14:00
Agneees3.7 Gio14:01
lotuspsychjethats a bit on the low side for gnome3 Agneees14:02
OerHeksat least more than 2 gb14:02
OerHeksit all depends what tabs you open..14:02
lotuspsychje8GB ram and an ssd, very reccomended14:03
AgneeesOh. Didn't really know that. I got the laptop, and just ran ubuntu on it ;)14:03
Agneeesso what version would be recommended without and ssd and with only 3.8 Gb?14:03
lotuspsychjeAgneees: there some things you can do to tweak gnome though..install preload, haveged,bleachbit, tweak startup items, tweak systemd services, disable animations14:04
lotuspsychje!flavours | Agneees14:04
ubottuAgneees: Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours14:04
compdocI like ubuntu mate14:04
lotuspsychjeAgneees: just not kubuntu with 4gb ram14:04
KazDaxya mate i like ubuntu too :P14:05
compdocfunny14:05
Agneeeswow. I think I started in the linux world with Feisty Fox. Then moved on to arch, and got a windows touchscreen, so I didn't tweak that. I didn't realize the number of flavors had raised that much!! I remember having only ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu !!14:07
KazDaxare touch screens really useful for a debugger and disassembler14:08
KazDaxi mean would it help a reverser to get a touch screen14:08
KazDaxi see it would be cool to make break points by touching code but that might not be the fastest way14:08
KazDaxjust sayin14:08
AgneeesI thought I was going to use it as a tablet lol, I totally didn't! it was one of those flip screens14:09
KazDaxahh i see14:10
friendlyguyhi there! i am struggeling with some trivial problem here: name resolution. the system is using netplan and on the shell everything works fine. a tool that is supposed to send smtp fails to resolve the dns name of the smtp server though14:18
friendlyguy"getaddrinfo: Temporary failure in name resolution"14:18
friendlyguyif i use dig, or ping its resolved nicely though14:18
friendlyguyheck, even telnet to that system on port 25 works nice14:19
* ryuo eavesdrops on friendlyguy's telnet.14:19
ryuoOh cool! I got root!14:19
ryuo>.>14:19
friendlyguyi have a suspicion that its related to netplan and whats inside resolve.conf... but i might be wrong on that14:20
pragmaticenigmafriendlyguy: resolve.conf is not used with systems running systemd-resolved ... it is there only for legacy applications that look there for dns settings14:20
ryuo"legacy applications". ha. that's pretty much everything that isn't systemd aware.14:21
pragmaticenigmaryuo: Let's focus on support, and less on critisms. That's why we have #ubuntu-offtopic14:22
friendlyguy:) i tried to add the mx dns name to /etc/hosts... but even that didnt help14:24
pragmaticenigmafriendlyguy: What would help is to know what version of Ubuntu you are running, what the name of this "smtp tool" is and what it's version is14:24
compdocmake sure you remove that hosts.hack14:24
friendlyguyalready did14:25
SleepyHollowHey guys can you help me again i'm trying to install software and I get an error https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/trRVCmFkTf/14:25
friendlyguysince it didnt help i removed it right away14:25
friendlyguyos is Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS14:25
mguyfriendlyguy: somtehing else has that file open14:25
mguyfind out what it is14:25
lotuspsychjeSleepyHollow: are you installing openvas from the official ubuntu repos?14:25
friendlyguyand the software is ossec 3.3.0 (https://www.ossec.net/)14:26
friendlyguywhich file?14:26
SleepyHollowlotuspsychje: i did apt-get install openvas14:27
pragmaticenigmafriendlyguy: since ossec is not a software package provided in the Ubuntu respositories, I would suggest you reach out to the developer for support. I don't believe this is an Ubuntu issue or a netplan issue. I believe this is an issue with ossec and not being compatible with Ubuntu14:27
lotuspsychjeSleepyHollow: wuch ubuntu version are you on?14:28
SleepyHollow18.0414:28
lotuspsychje*wich14:28
OerHeksopenvas (1:7.0.0-2) ?? not in our repos https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openvas14:29
legreffierSleepyHollow: according to your pastebin , you just have another dpkg-related action going on.14:31
legreffierwait for it to finish to try it again14:31
SleepyHollowlegreffier: i dont have any other software installing installing14:34
pragmaticenigmaSleepyHollow: It could also be one of the scheduled tasks updating apt in the background. Though it should be done by now, and safe to try installing again14:34
lotuspsychjeSleepyHollow: tell us where you really got your openvas version from?14:34
legreffierSleepyHollow: maybe some update management stuff , or a stalled/crashed log file14:34
SleepyHollowgive me a min14:36
SleepyHollowsudo add-apt-repository ppa:mrazavi/gvm   https://www.maketecheasier.com/install-use-vulnerability-scanner-linux/?amp14:39
lotuspsychjeSleepyHollow: as we dont support external ppa's we strongly reccomend installing packages from the ubuntu repos14:40
SleepyHollowalright ill purge it14:40
SleepyHollowthanx14:40
cursorydoes ubuntu 14 have php7 support?15:17
lotuspsychjecursory: are you paying for ESM?15:17
cursoryno, just confirming that php7 is not available as a package in 1415:18
cursorywas running into an issue with this vagrant stack erroring out and just realized it was using 1415:18
cursoryand can't find the php7 packages it needs15:18
lotuspsychjecursory: well we cant support 14.04 anymore, as its end of life, im sorry15:18
cursoryno worries, thank you15:20
lotuspsychjecursory: is this a server youre still on?15:20
cursoryjust a vm via vagrant15:21
lotuspsychjetry to install a supported version from the topic, you can lookup their releasenotes to see wich php version they got15:22
OerHeksuse a supported vagrant vm,..15:23
omega_doomhello. How can i enable intel opencl?15:26
omega_doomclinfo shows that my cpu has opencl 1.2 but when i try to use it then i get error. nvidia opencl works fine.15:27
sliptteeshi guys15:29
sliptteesi need help ethernet controller intel i217-V15:29
OerHeksOpenCL 1.2 is only possible on Ubuntu 14.04 (and you must downgrade the Linux kernel to 3.19) .. but 14.04 is EOL15:29
sliptteesOerHeks https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4C5p2c4D89/15:30
chillysurferwhat network service does ubuntu use out-of-the-box? it's not NetworkManager right?15:31
omega_doomOerHeks: Do you mean icd version?15:32
OerHekscurrent intel runtime works with opengl 2.115:32
OerHeksso i have no clue howto do that older version15:33
omega_doomOerHeks: Yes, runtime is icd.15:33
omega_doomI also have 2.1 icd. But it should be possible to use opencl 1.2 even with runime 2.1.15:35
omega_doomclinfo shows that device supports opencl 1.2 but i cannot use it for some reason.15:36
omega_doomOerHeks: it is not old version.15:39
sliptteesanyone help me work my ethernet controller intel I217-V?15:39
sliptteesanyone help me work my ethernet controller intel I217-V?15:43
ioriaslipttees, first,  try to disable WOL (Wake on Lan) from bios15:48
sliptteesioria i disable, no change15:48
sliptteeskernel 4.15.0-7015:48
ioriaslipttees, paste 'sudo lshw -C Network'15:49
sliptteesupdate e1000e drive15:51
sliptteesioria https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Hk2pGft9Ft/15:52
sliptteesbrb15:54
ioriaslipttees, what yo umean with 'update e1000e drive ' ?15:54
sliptteesi reboot now15:54
slipttees3.5.1 e1000e15:54
roger_padactor_wso our genius devops team installed ubuntu server with a GUI, there are two processes running under a user that isn't logged in; xorg, floaters (screen saver) whats the best way to terminate these without effecting anything.15:54
sliptteesDownloads/PRO1000/LINUX/e1000e-3.5.1/src$15:55
sliptteesbrb15:55
omega_doomlook - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vYJ5tsnVBX/16:01
omega_doombut intel opencl doesn't work.16:01
tomreynroger_padactor_w: is this ubuntu-mate then? the mate-screensaver package contains a screensaver named "floaters".16:14
tomreyni guess if this screensaver is running you're probably also running a graphical desktop (in addition to the X server which may also be running when you have no graphical interface).16:15
tomreynyou could uninstall these packages, this would be the best approach, or you could switch to a non graphical systemd target, or you could manually kill the processes.16:16
tomreynomega_doom: what's the command that "does not work", what'S the output it generates, how can you tell it does not work as it should?16:17
roger_padactor_wwe told the dev ops to install ubuntu server I guess they installed ubuntu server with the gui.16:17
tomreynroger_padactor_w: ubuntu server comes with no gui. but, yes, you can install additional packages, including a graphical desktop. maybe they started with an existing desktop image and tried to scale it down, removing the graphical user interfaces, but didn't do it completely (this is not easy to achieve).16:19
lordcirthroger_padactor_w, You should have a standard, automated way of installing Ubuntu Server in future, to reduce human error.16:19
lordcirthIsn't there a tasksel page during the install that lets you pick a desktop?16:19
bynariehello16:20
lordcirthbynarie, hello16:20
bynariehow do i remove password restrictions.. i keep getting a message password in dictionary or something16:20
roger_padactor_wok just found out they installed a GUI after the fact.16:20
roryideally you should follow the advice and pick a better password bynarie16:20
tomreynlordcirth: i don't think subiquity offers a desktop installation via tasksel, maybe d-i does.16:21
bynariei want to bypass this.. anyone know how16:21
lordcirthbynarie, why do you want to bypass it?16:21
rorybynarie: "sudo su" and then "passwd" command can change password of a user16:21
rorybynarie: but you should pick a better password16:21
bynarieit still gives me the error, ive tried that but thank you16:22
rorywhat's the precise message you're getting?16:22
lordcirthbynarie, "apt install pwgen; pwgen -1"16:22
bynarieone sec16:22
bynarieBAD PASSWORD: it is based on a dictionary word16:23
tomreynlibpam-cracklib16:23
rorythis is a bad idea but you can remove the word "obscure" from /etc/pam.d/common-password16:23
lordcirthbynarie, ok, so follow the warning and use a decent password.16:23
bynarierory, that word is not in there16:25
bynarieill keep working on it.. thanks for the advice16:25
roger_padactor_wneed to uninstall xrdp and all the crap it installed with it. what is the best way to do this?16:26
tomreynbynarie: if this is a system you manage (root access) and weakening its security profile is something you are allowed to do, uninstalling cracklib is an option. but this puts all the responsibility on your. and you should not do so on a system that will allow login to this account with passwords from the network, definitely not from the internet.16:26
lordcirthroger_padactor_w, apt autoremove xrdp16:26
bynarieits literally a practice VM on my local pc lol16:26
bynariei dont need a secure password16:27
tomreynroger_padactor_w: there's no simple way to remove anything that's graphical / desktop related. it's best to start with a clean server installation.16:27
omega_doomtomreyn: i will debug what is going ion wrong. But for now nvidia opencl 1.2 works fine.16:27
tomreynvery well then16:27
tomreynbynarie: how did you install it? which ubuntu version is it?16:28
lordcirthroger_padactor_w, given it's an enterprise environment, it is best to reinstall and tell them not to mess it up this time.16:28
lordcirth(more politely than that)16:28
sliptteesioria no work :-(16:31
sliptteestry update e1000e drive from intel website.16:31
ioriaslipttees, grep again dmesg16:32
sliptteeshttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/k5sYbRTgqw/16:33
ioriaslipttees, export LC_ALL=C ; sudo lshw -C Network16:33
sliptteeshttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vqR6m3qXqW/16:34
tomreynioria: would LTSE maybe fix this?16:35
ioriatomreyn, no idea, but go ahead16:36
tomreyn!ltse | slipttees16:36
ubottuslipttees: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack16:36
ioriaslipttees, did you get any errors building the module ?16:36
sliptteesany error16:36
compdocslipttees, sorry I havent been following, but unclaimed means no driver. It might be trying to load the wrong driver, and sometimes you can blacklist the wrong driver so that it loads the correct one16:36
ioriacompdoc, the default one wasnt 'working, so he built one from the Intel website16:37
ioriaslipttees, yes or no ?16:37
tomreynslipttees: your easiest solution may be to just try a newer kernel version. but those are only available on LTS releases. which ubuntu version are oyu running there?16:37
tomreynlooks like 18.04?16:37
sliptteesyes. i try this. https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/22283/Intel-Ethernet-Adapter-Complete-Driver-Pack?product=7083116:37
sliptteestomreyn no. 16.04.516:38
sliptteesfresh install16:38
compdocyou can upgrade the kernel to 5.x on 18.04 if its not already16:38
compdocoh16:38
slipttees4.15.0-7016:38
compdocwhy 16.04?\16:38
sliptteesi can upgrade manual kernel for last 18.0416:39
ioriaslipttees,  sy to repeat myself; did you get errors building the module ?16:39
sliptteescompdoc still have updates and have system work on this version..16:39
sliptteesioria No erros16:40
ioriaok16:40
ioriaslipttees,  modinfo e1000e16:41
croraf_Hi. I bought this laptop and my builtin microphone is not working on Ubuntu https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/omen-by-hp-17-cb0000-laptop-pc/26122176/model/29770675/document/c0641158616:41
croraf_The microphone is "HP Wide Vision HD Camera with integrated dual array digital microphone"16:41
bynarienice pc!16:42
croraf_What can I do, and who is responsible it is not working (HP laptop manufacturer, HP microphone manufacturer, Ubuntu, Linux....)16:42
sliptteesioria https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/m4njKZxRGF/16:42
croraf_WHere should I file a bug16:42
lordcirthcroraf_, what version of Ubuntu?16:42
croraf_bynarie: thanks man16:42
croraf_19.1016:42
lordcirthcroraf_, and you have done all updates? Can you pastebin the output of "lspci"?16:43
lordcirth!paste16:43
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.16:43
bynariecroraf_, for sure.. hows the cpu speed? unfortunately i dont have an answer16:43
ioriaslipttees, sudo modprobe -r e1000e && sudo modprobe -v e1000e16:43
croraf_lordcirth: https://termbin.com/r8kx16:44
sliptteesioria insmod /lib/modules/4.15.0-70-generic/kernel/drivers/pps/pps_core.ko insmod /lib/modules/4.15.0-70-generic/kernel/drivers/ptp/ptp.ko insmod /lib/modules/4.15.0-70-generic/updates/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/e1000e/e1000e.ko16:45
croraf_bynarie: it is flying, but dont know exact metrics, on ubuntu the glmark2 is not as expected, but this is probably the wrong benchmark16:45
croraf_on windows10 all performance show as expected16:45
lordcirthcroraf_, 'lsmod | grep snd', anything loaded?16:45
ioriaslipttees,  dmesg | tail | nc termbin.com 999916:45
croraf_lordcirth: https://termbin.com/i5s416:46
akkcroraf_: Have you googled ubuntu OR linux and your model? I know on my lenovo, the mic doesn't work without kernel changes, but there's hope that it might work in the next ubuntu version.16:46
sliptteesioria https://termbin.com/hocu16:46
croraf_my old lenovo was working fluently on Ubuntu 18.04 :)16:47
akkcroraf_: Googling for my model finds lots of discussions of the problem and the (very complicated) workaround.16:47
croraf_this new HP disaster16:47
bynarienice16:47
ioriaslipttees,  ever worked that card on linux ?16:47
bynarienah ull get it working16:47
akkcroraf_: Apparently some of the new intel chipsets aren't properly supported by current ubuntus, the kernel config needs to be changed.16:47
croraf_thx for kind words bynarie16:47
sliptteesNo. lol16:47
croraf_akk: so it is basically ubuntus responsibility to fix this?16:48
akkI confess I don't entirely grok the details of the problem, I looked at the 15-or-so-step workaround instructions and decided it was easier to buy a microphone.16:48
sliptteesWindows work16:48
croraf_so I fill bug on ubuntu, and they hopefully address on 18.04.4 or 20.0416:48
croraf_akk: yes I will probably buy microphone16:48
ioriaslipttees,  lspci -nnk | nc termbin.com 999916:49
akkcroraf_: Basically. The kernel folks have incorporated the fix, and it's in the kernel ubuntu is currently shipping, but ubuntu hasn't incorporated the configuration changes.16:49
croraf_I have Marshall headphones, a gift, but also mic not working on Ubuntu :D16:49
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bynariecroraf_, your welcome.. i always stick with the LTS version. not that that will solve your problem, just saying16:49
bynarie=]16:49
sliptteesioria https://termbin.com/hocu16:49
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akkcroraf_: But of course, I don't know that your HP's mic is the same issue as my Lenovo's.16:49
sliptteesioria https://termbin.com/6xrh16:49
croraf_The laptop has 2 jacks, 1 for output/input 1 for input, but when I input my Marshall intou output/input the mic not working16:50
croraf_thankfully it is a bluetooth, but also hard to connect :(16:50
croraf_SO million sound issues16:50
croraf_I'm afraid to buy expensive keyboard, that might not work at the end :(16:50
croraf_or mouse, or anything :( :( :(16:51
ioriaslipttees, it's a dual boot with windows ?16:51
croraf_what is funny, the camera which has integrated mic works ok :D16:51
sliptteesno more. Kill windows :-)16:51
sliptteesndiswrapper?16:51
pragmaticenigma!hardware | croraf_16:52
ubottucroraf_: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection16:52
akkcroraf_: I ordered a mic for mine, and then discovered that it can only use mics with the 4-conductor plug like integrated headset/mics16:52
croraf_pragmaticenigma: thanks16:52
akkcroraf_: so I ordered an adapter plug, but the mic doesn't work through that either, so probably I'm not the one to give advice. :)16:52
croraf_akk disaster :(16:52
akkcroraf_: I did discover that the earbud/mic that came with my samsung phone works fine, though, so if I really need a mic (which I seldom do) I can use that.16:53
bynariecroraf_, time to find a better OS16:53
bynariehaha16:53
bynariejk16:53
croraf_20.04 *_*16:53
ioriaslipttees,  i think you can cd in the src directory and sudo make uninstall; then remove and relaod the stock module16:53
sliptteesioria done16:55
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ioriaslipttees,  modinfo e1000e | grep version16:56
sliptteesno module found16:57
ioriaslipttees,16:57
ioriaslipttees, sudo modprobe -r e1000e && sudo modprobe e1000e16:57
sliptteesnot found16:58
sliptteesmodprobe: FATAL: Module e1000e not found.16:58
ioriaslipttees,  modinfo e1000e16:58
sliptteesmodinfo e1000emodinfo: ERROR: Module e1000e not found.16:59
ioriathat thing removed the original module16:59
sliptteessudo make unistall in src directory16:59
ioriaslipttees,  sudo apt install --reinstall linux-generic16:59
sliptteesintel e1000e module16:59
SleepyHollow90hey guys im having this problem now any idea how to fix it? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Z9rHG4zV3x/17:00
OerHeksSleepyHollow90, run sudo apt update # as some unattended updates seems to be holding apt17:01
OerHekselse see the #openvas channel?17:02
SleepyHollow90OerHeks: it didnt fix the apt upgrade so want me to go to #openvas?17:03
OerHekstry update, not upgrade, and see17:03
JaredCEhey all, i'm using Docker to build a ubuntu:bionic container, when i do a: RUN apt-get update && apt-get -qq install openssl,  then a RUN ld -lssl --verbose, it fails to open any libssl.so files17:03
OerHeksopenvas (1:7.0.0-2) anyway, we told you that the openvas (1:7.0.0-2)  is not on our repos. so no support17:04
SleepyHollow90yea the update works but not the upgrade17:04
dStructhey all, did something weird happen to dns in the last few release updates?  I'm having major issues all of a sudden with LTS 18.04.3 relating to DNS and an IKEv2 VPN17:04
OerHeksso, install openvas from our repos, that would be v917:05
SleepyHollow90it wont install i get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)17:05
tomreynchances are that's for the same reason "/var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process"17:06
SleepyHollow90tomreyn: how do I unlock it? I dont have anything else running.17:07
OerHekssudo fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat17:07
OerHeksWill show you what process is holding the lock:17:07
SleepyHollow90htop?17:07
OerHekssudo kill PID # and it should be gone17:07
bynarieanyone in here got a LFCS cert? just wondering if any good17:10
OerHeksbynarie, that is beyound the topic of this channel, try ##linux ?17:12
sliptteesioria back17:13
sliptteessorry... lost wifi connection17:14
ioriaslipttees,  modinfo e1000e17:14
SleepyHollow909 is kill right17:14
sliptteesreinstall kernel17:14
ioriayep17:14
sliptteesreboot again17:15
SleepyHollow90it seemed to fix it thanks guys am i going to have to do that every time i reboot?17:19
OerHeksdunno, that openvas is old..17:19
sliptteesmodinfo e1000efilename:       /lib/modules/4.15.0-70-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/e1000e/e1000e.koversion:        3.2.6-k17:20
sliptteesioria17:20
ioriagood17:21
SleepyHollow90whos a admin on here?17:21
ioriaslipttees, sudo modprobe -r e1000e && sudo modprobe e1000e | nc termbin.com 999917:21
sliptteesno term output17:22
sliptteestermbin17:22
OerHeksSleepyHollow90, why ? if you have issues with spam or something like that, join #ubuntu-ops please17:22
SleepyHollow90OerKeks: no its just about my login name thats all17:23
ioriaslipttees, sudo lshw -C Network | nc termbin.com 999917:23
OerHeksSleepyHollow90, oh oke, then #freenode is the pace to be17:24
OerHeksc/place17:24
sliptteeshttps://termbin.com/7wej17:24
SleepyHollow90OerHeks: so the ch is #freenode17:25
ioriaslipttees, can we try another kernel ?17:25
OerHeksyes, for account Q/A17:25
SleepyHollow90OerHeks: ok thank you :)17:25
sliptteesioria try install 18.04 kernel17:26
ioriaslipttees, you already have that17:26
ioriaslipttees, you have 4.15.0.70, i would try   5.0.0-36 or even 5.3.0-2317:27
sliptteesokay17:27
ioriaslipttees, is this possible or you need for some reason  4.15.x ?17:28
sliptteeslast kernel on 16.04.517:29
ioriaslipttees, 16.04  ?  cat /etc/issue17:29
OerHeks!info linux-firmware17:29
ubottulinux-firmware (source: linux-firmware): Firmware for Linux kernel drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 1.183.2 (eoan), package size 81010 kB, installed size 473336 kB17:29
ioriaslipttees, are you on xenial ?17:30
slipttees cat /etc/issueUbuntu 16.04.6 LTS \n \l17:30
ioriaslipttees, i was sure you were on 18.04 bionic17:31
ioriaslipttees, you can't upgrade the kernel (at least from the official repo)17:31
sliptteeskernel.org stable17:32
ioriaslipttees, i can't recommend that17:32
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sliptteesonly test17:33
tomreyn!mainline17:33
ubottuThe kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds17:33
CrellHi folks. I upgraded from 19.04 to 19.10 recently. Almost everything went smoothly, but I am now getting periodic lockups.  The whole system just freezes.  It can last anywhere from a few seconds to seemingly permanent.  It doesn't matter what application I have running or am using, it happens seemingly random.  The longer the machine has been running the more likely it is to happen.  Has anyone seen an issue like this? Any suggestions on debugging it?17:33
tomreynCrell: see what's logged during boot, as well as during these freeze periods. journalctl -b17:34
ioriaslipttees, what you can safely do, is burn a 18.04.3 iso and test it live17:35
ioriabrb17:35
sliptteesokay i will try both17:35
Crelltomreyn: Hm, a whole lot of output there.  I'll have to try it after the next time it locks on me.  What am I looking for, exactly?17:35
CrellBy far the most common entry appears to be APPARMOR denying things, mostly to Discord or Slack.17:36
tomreynCrell: hard to tell. if the kernel becomes inoperable for a while it should state so after the fact.17:36
tomreynthose apparmor denies wont be the cause17:37
CrellSo just wait for a freeze up, run journalctl, skip to the end, and look for red things?17:37
sliptteestomreyn thanks17:37
CrellDidn't think so; it's weird that it's so frequent, though.  Like, a hundred times per second!17:37
CrellWhat does Discord thing it's doing?17:37
tomreynCrell: you can just run    journalctl -f   in a temrinal window and keep it running17:37
CrellAh, even better.  And yeah, Discord keeps getting denied for ptrace, like, dozens of times a second.  It's drowning out anything else.17:38
tomreynCrell: 100s of apparmor messages per second sounds wrong, yes, you should investigate this.17:38
tomreynbut this should still not cause the entire system to freeze17:39
sliptteesioria upgrade kernel. Not work :-(17:42
slipttees5.3.11-050311-generic #201911121635 SMP Tue Nov 12 21:37:23 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux17:42
sliptteessame e1000e version:  3.2.6-k17:43
compdocslipttee, in the logs, does it show trying to load that driver?17:44
Crelltomreyn: Looks like it's a known issue with the Snap/Discord package.  It tries to scan other running apps rather aggressively for "now playing" and such, and the default config tells it no, so it keeps asking.  No one seems able to fix it other than upstream Discord devs; I'm just finding workarounds. :-/17:44
OerHeksthis mint post gives something extra ..17:45
OerHekssudo rmmod e1000e  && sudo modprobe e1000e EEE=017:45
OerHekshttps://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=29235717:46
OerHeksmind the EEE=017:46
tomreynCrell: i don't do snap support, so cant help there.17:47
sliptteesIntel Ethernet Controller I217-V17:47
sliptteesOerHeks https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VNRBD8Rgvb/17:48
sliptteessame error17:48
FailBaconhello17:49
OerHeksslipttees, i have no clue then to hellp you, does a live session work with that e1000e?17:50
sliptteesacpi_sci=low what do you do?17:50
FailBaconcan someone maybe help me17:51
OerHeksacpi_sci=low ?? as boot option?17:51
sliptteesYes. See something in bugzilla17:51
tomreyn!ask | FailBacon17:52
ubottuFailBacon: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience17:52
OerHeksdon't know about that command17:52
FailBacon!patience17:52
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/17:52
FailBaconok will do17:52
FailBaconHello im trying to dualboot kubuntu with windows 7 im pretty new to this where do i need to install the boot loader in?17:52
sliptteesOerHeks https://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/linux_kernel/kernel_configuration/re73.html17:52
mintuxHi i have a pc that it doesn't have internet and i have a local server with internet connection that i want to make ftp connection from my pc through local server to FTP server. how can i do that? maybe port forward or something like that on local server. i draw it here: https://i.imgur.com/bJ86F7L.jpg17:53
sliptteesbrb. meeting17:53
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sliptteesback...18:00
sliptteesi try acpi_sci=low18:00
ioriaslipttees, have you tried the 18.04.3 iso ?18:05
OerHeksi guess it works fine in a live session18:06
webstrandI need the /usr/bin/sendmail binary, and ubuntu suggests a whole bunch of different packages. Any recommendations? I just need to send mail to an email address, and nothing else.18:13
sliptteesstill won't work :-)18:13
ioriaslipttees, have you tried the 18.04.3 iso ?18:14
sliptteesNope yet18:14
sliptteesuname -aLinux 23142332-lei34 5.3.11-050311-generic #201911121635 SMP Tue Nov 12 21:37:23 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux18:14
ioriaslipttees, try to set  pcie_aspm=off  as kernel parameter18:15
sliptteesback other pc18:17
rbasakwebstrand: where are you sending from? Do you have an SMTP server available to avoid issues being filtered as spam?18:17
sliptteesrsrs18:17
sliptteesioria same error18:18
webstrandrbasak: Nope, no SMTP server available. I'm sending logging messages from a server to my own email. I'm leaning toward exim or postfix. I don't want to deal with m418:19
rbasakwebstrand: then I'd advise exim or postfix. Those two are in main and have security support from Canonical18:19
rbasakI use exim with a minimal configuration I wrote just for getting messages sent to root redirected to an email address and nothing else18:20
webstrandrbasak: great, thanks, I'll look into exim18:21
ioriaslipttees, try the 18.04.3 in live mode18:21
sliptteeshttps://sourceforge.net/projects/e1000/files/e1000e%20stable/18:21
rbasakwebstrand: here's what I use: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/THrTSYqGQR/18:22
rbasakwebstrand: all local mail gets redirected to myself@example.com (note lines 22, 23, 29)18:23
rbasakwebstrand: that's with the exim4-daemon-light package18:23
croraf_lordcirth:18:24
croraf_you have any idea whats going on with my mic18:24
lordcirthcroraf_, no, sorry. Most likely a kernel update will fix it eventually.18:25
croraf_thx18:25
webstrandrbasak: it looks like I can use `catchall:` instead of `system_mail:` to redirect all email, regardless of destination, to my own email?18:25
rbasakwebstrand: IIRC, that's what my configuration already does18:26
rbasakwebstrand: and the name of the router is arbitrary and doesn't affect exim's behaviour - it's just a label18:26
webstrandrbasak: then it's perfect, thanks18:26
rbasakAh, I said the opposite earlier, sorry.18:28
rbasakI had forgotten exactly what I'd done and hadn't looked at my configuration again at that point.18:28
ioriaslipttees, and maybe update your BIOS too18:37
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sliptteesioria try last e1000e driver 3.6.0 same error19:00
sliptteesPCI INT A: Failed to register GSI19:01
ioriaslipttees, did you burn a 18.04.3 iso ?19:01
sliptteesNo. Download...19:01
ioriaslipttees, i think might be a bios/hw problem19:02
sliptteesWindows work ethernet19:02
sliptteesrsrs19:02
sliptteescheck manufacture website doesnt have bios update19:03
ioriaslipttees, then (when you have burned the iso), you can try a full power cycle19:06
ioriaslipttees,  maybe reseat the card too19:06
linux_dr_arculesI come and go in the Ubuntu ecosystem, so I'm not exactly a noob, but why are there two Thunderbird applications in the snap store? Which one is which?19:06
sliptteesioria https://pasteboard.co/IHBmoQ9.jpg19:07
sliptteesWindows 10 Live19:07
ioriaslipttees,  i know, but this is linux19:08
sliptteeshw is ok19:08
ioriaslipttees,  the problem here is probably the interrupt19:09
sliptteesyes19:09
ioriaslipttees,  so something in between  hw/sw/firmware19:10
slipttees:-(19:14
linux_dr_arculesI'm seeing "Thunderbird Mail 1:60.9.0+build1-0ubuntu0.18.04.1" and "Thunderbird 60.3.0" and am somewhat confused why there are both there. The first one appears to have a higher version number, but unsure if it's a stable build. Any advice?19:17
iorialinux_dr_arcules, the second is the  snap  version19:20
leftyfblinux_dr_arcules: there aren't. The snap repo has 60.3.0. The apt repo on Ubuntu 18.04 has 68.2.1+build1-0ubuntu0.18.04.1. I'm going to assume your version of ubuntu is older, maybe 16.04.19:21
OerHeks1 snap and one deb package, https://snapcraft.io/thunderbird gives an 'edge' 68 version too19:22
linux_dr_arculesleftyfb, I'm on Bionic19:22
ioria!info thunderbird bionic19:22
ubottuthunderbird (source: thunderbird): Email, RSS and newsgroup client with integrated spam filter. In component main, is optional. Version 1:60.9.0+build1-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 (bionic), package size 40420 kB, installed size 161877 kB19:22
leftyfblinux_dr_arcules: ah right, I have the proposed repo enabled19:23
sliptteesioria https://www.feeditout.com/debian-sid-217-v-not-working/ i will try19:23
iorialinux_dr_arcules, you have the correct one ; 68 is in proposed19:23
linux_dr_arculesSo, just uninstall the snap version?19:24
ioriaslipttees,  you said you are not dual boot19:24
sliptteesioria live windows 10 rsrs19:25
sliptteesusb stick19:25
ioriaslipttees,  not clear to me, but ok19:25
sliptteesonly test ethernet hw is ok19:26
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sliptteesback linux...19:26
ioriaslipttees,  and that link refers to a dual boot issue19:26
sliptteeshumm19:26
ioriaslipttees,  'Rebooting from windows into Linux renders the NIC unusable.' , but maybe it's the same with the live usb, idk19:27
sliptteesi only try all option to fix this19:27
ioriai see19:28
ioriaslipttees,  you could have tested that script with a power cycle, btw19:35
samlamammaRunning Kubuntu 19.04. Updated to nvidia-driver-440. nvidia-smi returns reasonable output on TTY (recognises driver version and GPU correctly). Login screen appears but when I login the whole screen locks up. Does anyone know what options I have? Rolling back is one19:51
samlamammaHm, driver was 440.26 (this was the recommended driver in ubuntu-drivers) which is beta, so probably this is a bad idea.19:52
samlamammaWell crap. Using 430.50 and it's still borked on login :-/19:55
sliptteesioria try live 18.04.319:56
ioriaok19:56
sliptteessame problem19:57
sliptteesrsrs19:57
sliptteesscript doens work PCIPATH command failed19:59
ioriaslipttees,  poweroff the pc , turn off the switch and unplug the cable ; press the start  button for a minute; replug and turn on20:01
sliptteesioria ok20:02
samlamammaJesus, trying recovery mode20:03
ioriaslipttees,  you can also disable the nic in bios and renable it20:03
sliptteesi will try20:04
xSlendiXHello everyone. I am using Ubuntu 19.04 and I have a problem with my SD Card reader from Realtek20:05
xSlendiXI have tried sudo apt-get install --reinstall udisks2 and rebooted but it seems it doesn't do the trick20:06
xSlendiXand ideas on how to fix this issue?20:06
samlamammaxSlendiX: What is the issue?20:07
xSlendiXWhen i insert the SD Card into my laptop, it isn't detected by balena etcher. I have checked disks but still nothing20:07
sarnolddoes dmesg show it?20:08
xSlendiXdoesn't seem so20:08
xSlendiXno20:08
samlamammaAlright. I've botched my system, gonna go do the recycling instead.20:09
OerHeksxSlendiX, what filesystem is on it? or what cardreader and how big is that sdcard?20:10
xSlendiXIt's a micro sd adapter20:10
sarnoldxSlendiX: did this thing work previously?20:10
xSlendiXyes20:10
akkxSlendiX: I assume you've tried a couple times? I find occasionally usb sticks and SD readers don't show up, and I have to unplug/replug.20:11
OerHeksusb2 or usb3 port ( blue) ??20:12
xSlendiXNone. I use a realtek sd card reader20:12
xSlendiXFull dmesg output: https://pastebin.com/bxBHA3kp Might be helpful20:12
akkLooks like it's not seeing anything at all, rather than seeing a device and not handling it right20:15
akkwhich is what I see in the "randomly doesn't show up" problem.20:15
OerHeksnothing to see about a sd card .. but your bios: LENOVO 20354/Lancer 5A5, BIOS 9BCN26WW 07/31/2014  gives an update https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/nl/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/lenovo-z-series-laptops/lenovo-z50-70/downloads/DS10052820:17
xSlendiXonly windows is available20:18
afidegnumif i m in /this/current/directiry    what files will be affected by rm *.* ? files in the current directory or parent directory included?20:19
OerHeksyeah, lenovo wants a windows install, or maybe your bios can handle live update https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIOSUpdate20:19
OerHeksafidegnum, only working directory20:20
afidegnumok, thanks20:20
akkAt least some recent lenovos can install bios updates from Linux.20:20
akk(but sadly, not for device firmware updates; I've spent the last 4 hours working toward finding a way to install a lenovo trackpad firmware update, still working on it ...)20:21
OerHeksmaybe a freedos environment?20:22
sarnoldxSlendiX: fwupd can speak lenovo updates20:23
akkOerHeks: I wondered about that, but I assume installers all have guis now; can freedos handle that?20:24
Stevwillsdoes ubuntu have cock and ball torture options in kernel20:24
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samlamammaStevwills: Emacs has a major mode for that20:24
sarnoldStevwills: that's bluetooth support, right?20:24
OerHeks!ot | Stevwills20:24
ubottuStevwills: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:24
Stevwillsill be investigating that thanks20:25
xSlendiXi tried installing the drivers from realtek directly but they won't compile20:25
OerHekskeep this channel family friendly, thanks20:25
xSlendiXit's a meme going around the internet what Stevwills said20:26
daxthey can meme elsewhere, we're all boring support talk20:26
xSlendiXanyways, so any ideas on what to do?20:26
OerHekswhy a driver? how did you tell the cardreader is not recognized?20:27
sarnold[    0.293207] mce: [Hardware Error]: Machine check events logged20:27
sarnoldxSlendiX: do you have rasdaemon kind of thing installed that'll tell you what this error is?20:27
xSlendiXno20:28
xSlendiXi don't think so20:28
ioriaxSlendiX, would be easier using an usb adapter20:28
xSlendiXYeah the problem is that I don't even have one20:29
ioriabuy one, please20:29
sarnoldxSlendiX: apt install rasdaemon, then ras-mc-ctl --errors to see if it reports anything20:29
xSlendiXalright one second20:29
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ioriathat stuff is higly proprietary20:30
xSlendiXDBD::SQLite::db prepare failed: no such table: mc_event at /usr/sbin/ras-mc-ctl line 1137.20:31
sarnoldo_O20:31
xSlendiXGot it working. This is the output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gjfGHb9ZJH/20:32
xSlendiXnot the sd card20:37
xSlendiXthe command20:37
sarnoldxSlendiX: well, hmm. I wish i knew if that was cause for even more concern or not. oh well... so my next guess is to try fwupdmgr to install firmware updates, reboot, and try again; if that doesn't do it, then I'm not sure what the next step would be20:45
xSlendiXFailed to connect to daemon: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.fwupd: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut: Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.fwupd': timed out (service_start_timeout=25000ms)20:46
Crelltomreyn: OK, I just had another momentary freeze.  This one was short.  The recent journalctl output is here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zFFsDCgk4N/20:46
CrellAnd as I was typing this I had another, briefer freeze, which had NO new journalctl output.20:46
OerHeks temperature above threshold... dirty fan ?20:47
sarnoldxSlendiX: oof :( there's just a crazy never-ending supply of "what?" here, heh ;(20:51
CrellOerHeks: Not impossible, but it's a Thinkpad X1 Carbon.  They tend to run hot.20:53
samlamammaCrell: I limited my CPU frequency manually because it ran too hot w/ Intel's "turbo" mode on20:55
tioxWhat happened between last year and the last six months which broke installation of libpng12-0?20:57
tioxI was able to install libpng12-0:i386 in Ubuntu wirthout having to do wacky equivs workarounds but not today, that's fo'sho.20:58
OerHekslibpng v1.2 will likely never return to the repos... it has been superseded by libpng v1.620:59
CrellAaaand there was a total lockup that required a reboot.21:07
CrellOerHeks: Did you or anyone else say something to me after I said it was a Thinkpad?  I wouldn't have gotten it.21:08
davuCrell, only this which might be important: <samlamamma> Crell: I limited my CPU frequency manually because it ran too hot w/ Intel's "turbo" mode on21:28
jamie_1hey, how do i turn off palm rejection?21:34
jamie_1while gaming if i use the keyboard i cannot use the mouse21:35
ajvermillionHey guys, I just upgraded21:47
gordonjcphello, I've got Ubuntu 19.10 installed, and it's given me the option to sign into Google, and indeed I can mount Google Drive21:47
gordonjcphow do I actually get at the files?21:47
gordonjcpdo I need to copy them down locally before I can do anything with them?21:48
gordonjcpand if so, how do I actually do that?21:48
ajvermillion... my 16.04 install yesterday, ans it looks like I may have a corrupt BIOS now, is anyone aware of this problem?21:48
gordonjcpajvermillion: "corrupt BIOS"?  What exactly do you mean?21:48
ajvermillionI apologize for any typing errors, for obvious reasons, I am using my phone now instead of my laptop21:48
compdocajvermillion, meaning you cant access the bios, or what?21:49
ajvermillionNumerous BIOS problems that seem similar to problems I found reported in Jan 201921:49
ajvermillionNo, it opens and I can run all diagnostics (on my Thinkpad x270)21:49
ajvermillionThey all pass, but will _USUALLY_ hang if I press any keys while they run21:50
ajvermillion(This is not intended behavior)21:50
ajvermillionI wouldn't attribute this to the upgrade if not for reports of a 17.?? install messing with bios21:50
gordonjcpso if I've mounted my Google Drive in the Ubuntu desktop, where is that actually mounted *to*?21:51
ajvermillionI assume from your response this is not a problem amyone else has had?21:51
gordonjcpajvermillion: sounds like you have hardware issues21:51
ajvermillionI would be on that train of thought if the issues had manifest at any other time than IMMEDIATELY after the restart followong the update21:52
ajvermillionI'm not really looking to ask for help or fo complain, just trying to feel around for whether they're actually connected or not21:53
ajvermillionAnd warn in case they are21:53
gordonjcpthis is pretty frustrating21:54
akkgordonjcp: I don't mount google drive, guess no one else here does either, and I couldn't find anything specific to 19.04, but does this older page help? https://vitux.com/how-to-access-your-google-drive-account-in-ubuntu/21:54
gordonjcpakk: not really, I could already do that21:54
gordonjcpakk: there's a nice pointy-clicky thing that looks like it ought to all Just Work, but the files aren't mounted anywhere21:55
gordonjcpakk: also, it appears that I can't drag them out of the file manager window, they just spring back21:55
akkIf it doesn't show up in the file manager the way that page describes, I guess I'd try mount | grep google21:56
gordonjcpakk: yup, it's not there, that's the first thing I tried21:56
akkand if that didn't list anything, then just mount and go through all the (ridiculously too long) list line by line.21:56
gordonjcpakk: yes, that's the second thing I tried21:56
gordonjcpit is not listed *at all* in the output of mount21:56
gordonjcpso, I'm not sure what it's doing21:57
akkgordonjcp: That page I found says it's not mounted by default, you have to mount it explicitly in the file manager, so maybe that's the issue.21:57
gordonjcpakk: I've done that bit, I've got a file manager window that shows the files21:57
gordonjcpakk: I can't do anything with them, although I can open PDFs21:57
gordonjcpakk: I can't copy them locally21:57
ajvermillionCan you not use the file manager to find the path to one of the files?21:58
gordonjcpor, at least, I can't see a way to copy them down locally, if I try to drag them to the desktop it doesn't work21:58
gordonjcpajvermillion: it doesn't give anything useful21:58
ajvermillionLike in a "details" or "properties" menu on any file21:58
gordonjcp"google-drive://gordonjcp@gmail.com/"21:58
gordonjcpis what it gives as "Parent folder"21:58
gordonjcpI guess "folder" here is another word for directory21:59
ajvermillionOh, so it's not even just a remote mount, it's a whole different protocol21:59
akkI suspect most people who use google drive tend to be more comfortable with "folder" than unix terms like "directory".21:59
gordonjcpakk: yeah, Ubuntu uses "folder" everywhere, not sure why, it makes me think they're talking about office stationery22:00
akkI'm sure they think it'll make mac/win people feel all warm and fuzzy and less scared.22:00
gordonjcpthis is utterly stupid22:01
gordonjcpthe whole reason I was trying to copy off google drive is that's where my phone backs up to22:01
gordonjcpI can't copy files off my phone for the same reason, there's no mountpoint22:01
gordonjcpand I can get that showing up in a File Manager window, but I can't copy files out of it22:01
akkGoogle makes it ridiculously difficult to back up/copy from android.22:02
gordonjcpit's not, you just use something that'll mount mtp22:02
ajvermillionMy phone mounts to a subfolder under Media for me, if that's worth anything22:02
akkI use adb for regular files but there's no way to back up things like contacts.22:02
gordonjcpthis is actually showing me the photos22:02
gordonjcpI can click on them and open them up22:02
gordonjcpbut I can't copy them to the laptop22:02
gordonjcpwhat the hell am I missing here?22:02
akkI assume you've tried right-clicking and looking for some option like Copy?22:03
akk(I don't use file managers, but I always try right-clicking in unfamiliar gui apps)22:03
gordonjcpit's got an option to "Copy" but I can't find any way to paste it back out22:03
ajvermillionRight click into whitespace in a different window of the same GUI?22:04
bonsairootHi. I have an ubuntu 16.04 install which I would like to replace with the latest kubuntu. My home has a separate partition so I guess I can keep all the data. Am I gonna encounter issues for example with the dotfiles (some assume that binaries are installed)? Any other gotchas to watch out for?22:07
gordonjcpajvermillion: that causes my laptop to kernel panic22:07
gordonjcpokay, so Gnome 3 is fundamentally broken and unusable22:08
ajvermillionWhat??22:08
ajvermillionThat's awful22:08
gordonjcpajvermillion: consistent, repeatable22:08
akkYeah, that's pretty bad.22:08
gordonjcpajvermillion: time to upgrade to 18.0422:08
gordonjcpbloody Haiku isn't as crashy as this steaming pile22:08
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gordonjcpall I want to do is copy a .mobi file from my Google drive to my Kindle22:09
akkLooks like gordonjcp isn't the only person having problems with it: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1185665/ubuntu-19-10-gnome-online-accounts-google-account-works-extremely-glitchy22:09
gordonjcpit's taken me 45 minutes now to discover various ways to crassh Gnome 3 and a cnsistent way to kill my laptop22:09
gordonjcpnow22:09
gordonjcpnot to get into a Beard Length War but I've been using Linux for about 25 years at this point22:09
ajvermillionWhat file manager is this? Is a default doing this?22:09
gordonjcpI feel like I ought to know my way around stuff22:09
gordonjcpI'm amazed no-one's actually tried to use this stuff22:10
akkBeard length doesn't help much with gnome gooey stuff, I find.22:10
tomreynbonsairoot: you should be able to install kubuntu while reusing /home. as always, you should have current and complete backups.22:12
ajvermillionYou may be able to create install scripts usinf your current info22:12
ajvermillionMake sure stuff like bash config files (if using them) test to see if directories exist before using them to avoid lots of errors22:13
ajvermillionI reinstalled ubuntu once and that's the only problem I had when keeping my home22:13
bonsairoottomreyn, Yes that one is clear to me. But my dotfiles have env vars which are set to non existing directories for example (in a fresh install)22:13
ajvermillionGive them a reasonable default22:13
bonsairootor emacs layers that require binaries22:13
bonsairootajvermillion, so you would go through all of them manually before installing?22:14
tomreynbonsairoot: create a new administrative user account then before you upgrade22:15
ajvermillionI have all my dotfiles symlinked from a .dotfiles repo in my homefolder with an install script, so it's easy for me to do that22:15
ajvermillionDo your best and note what errors appear afterwards and try to fix them22:15
akkI tend to have a dummy user I use when installing new OSes; then once everything is up and running, I create my own user and set the directories and dotfiles and all.22:16
bonsairootHmm a dummy user sounds like a good idea...I'll try that. Thanks22:17
tomreynbonsairoot: ensure it has sudo access22:18
akkIf it's the user created by the installer, it will. Then you just have to remember to add sudo when you add your real user.22:19
bonsairootyea. I have a repo with the dotfiles as well but I guess I should really take this opportunity to clean up my stuff22:20
ajvermillionIf it's not too much work, I set up an install script for my stuff22:21
ajvermillionDid not take half as long as you'd think, but it gives you a lot of freedom22:22
bonsairootjust a bash script which installs all the apt packages/snaps?22:24
ajvermillionOr at least the ones you want right away22:24
ajvermillionI'd share snippets, but cannot get to mine right now22:24
ajvermillionBecause of my ... issues22:24
bonsairootyea sounds reasonable22:25
croraf_Hi. I watch a bit linux kernels now.22:27
croraf_5.4 will get out soon, and 5.3.11 got out last week22:27
bonsairootmy 16.04 is completely broken atm getting glib errors that freeze the desktop every once in a while. I have not used or upgraded that install in a long time and then did all at once. Still... never had any issue like that before with ubuntu. Always great experiences.22:27
ajvermillionCan you recovery boot?22:28
croraf_and my 19.10 linux has 5.3.0-23-generic22:28
Ben64croraf_: yes, 19.10 will always have 5.322:31
bonsairootajvermillion, probably... it's running fine for a while until it doesn't . Then you need to kill processes to unfreeze the active windows. Probably fixable but since I wanted to switch to kubuntu anyway I'm just taking the opportunity to clean up and fresh install.22:32
ajvermillionAw, I was hoping your thing was going to guve me insight into my mystery22:35
bonsairootI can post the error from journalctl if you want22:38
ajvermillionIt's fine, if you can kill processes, it's not my stupid thing22:38
andee2233Hi, is this the right place to ask for tech support regarding firewire cards?22:42
gigirockandee2233:if the card is in a ubuntu system .... yes22:43
Bashing-omandee2233: If you are running a'buntu releae, it is indeed :D22:43
jeremy31Bashing-om: Fix your keyboard22:44
Bashing-omjeremy31: :) .. Yup On my todo list .22:45
andee2233Yes it is. I can't get my Texas Instruments TSB43AB23 IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link) to show up in 1394 devices22:45
andee2233I'm currently running Kubuntu with Ubuntu studio applied to it.22:45
andee2233latest low latency kernel.22:45
gigirockandee2233:did the board worked with previous kernel and kubuntu/studio ?22:47
andee2233This board even worked with the current kernel. What happened was the following: didn't get detected after install, however going through multiple tutorials and fixes online at some point it got detected and working, just while trying to get my audio interface to also get detected I messed something up in grub and it wouldn't start anymore so I had22:48
andee2233to reinstall.22:48
andee2233Hi, sorry, I had to restart. Tried booting with generic kernel instead of the low latency one and the firewire card still doesn't show up in 1394 devices.23:09
croraf_Ben64: You mean it will always have 5.3.0?23:23
croraf_How does it relate to upstream 5.3.11?23:23
Ben64croraf_: it doesn't?23:27
croraf_Well, lets say 5.3.0 gets a number of important security patches up to 5.3.11, so they won't finish in the Ubuntu?23:29
croraf_Ben64:23:29
Ben64ubuntu kernels get security patches through their lifetime, but the version stays the same23:30
croraf_So 5.3.0 stays the same always as an indication from which upstream version it was created?23:31
croraf_Ben64:23:31
croraf_And after the patch is included the ...-23-generic is updated?23:32
Ben64https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/FAQ23:32
aleksandrdvorkinhi23:33
aleksandrdvorkini just got a free domain name but when i access it it opens my Modem config page23:34
Ben64you might want ##networking23:35
geniialeksandrdvorkin: So you should probably turn off remote administration option of the modem, and then port forward 80 and whatever other services to an internal box running those services23:36
geniiSo that the config can only be accessed by LAN machines and not by the internet at large using your external IP23:37
sarnoldtop tip to disable remote administration23:37
aleksandrdvorkinthe thing is i can run ngrok as my DNS and it displays the webpage of my webstore but when i click on the items in the webstore is shows page not found 404 so i thought maybe it has to do with Domain name so i got a free domain name23:38
flogIf you need remote access, set up a vpn server on your network or set up ssh.23:39
genii( I am making somewhat of an assumption here that the service is using something like ddns and just points at your IP )23:39
flogNeed to figure out why my usb drives dont show up when I plug them in.23:40
tomreynflog: is anything logged about them when you run   dmesg -w    then plug them in?23:41
flogtomreyn: no new entries when i plug/unplug23:42
tomreynflog: try a different usb port, ideally far away from the original one23:42
flogsame thing.23:42
geniiMaybe you're using a charging-only cable and not a data cable23:42
floggenii: usb pen drive.23:42
tomreynflog: unplug all other usb devices, then try again23:43
geniiflog: Maybe check then if it's USB3 and plugged into an USB2 port23:43
flogTHats the only device i had pluged in.23:43
flogGot two usb ports and two usb c prots.23:44
geniiSome of them are not backward compatible23:44
flogI did install jmtpfs and mtp-tools yesterday and managed to mount my phone once.23:44
tomreyndid it ever work? which ubuntu release and kernel are you running now? if it worked before, what were you running then?23:44
croraf_Ben64: ty for the link23:45
flogTo be honest i have not used any usb pen drives before trying mounting my phone.23:45
flogBut after monuting the phone it wouldnt mount again and I started trying mounting usb drives instead.23:45
flogsuspecting that jmtpfs and mtp-tools has done something.23:46
tomreynwhich ubuntu release and kernel are you running now?23:46
flog19.04 and 5.0.0-36-generic on amd ryzen23:46
tomreynand it's new hardware?23:47
flogFarily new laptop. a couple month old.23:47
sarnoldflog: do either of those packages suggest ways to temporarily undo whatever it is they did?23:47
tomreynhow did you install ubuntu if not using a usb drive?23:47
flogtomreyn: that is true. i did install via usb drives. Actually with one of the ones i just tried mounting. It still has the ubuntu installer on it.23:48
tomreynsee if you can still boot off the usb23:49
geniitomreyn: Yeah, that is probably the fastest way to differentiate if it's a hardware or software issue23:50
flogStill have wintendo installed on the laptop so i could try mounting the usb drive under wintendo too.23:50
tomreynyes. if it used to work, it should still work, unless the hardware / firmware changed23:50
flogbrb rebooting ty try23:51
tomreyni was referring to booting ubuntu off the usb23:51
tomreynif this is zen 2 you may actually want to make sure you have the latest firmware and upgrade to 19.10 soon.23:53
tomreyn19.04 only has two more months of support anyways23:54
flogtomreyn: the usb drives mounts just fine under windows which should suggest there is no issues with the hardware.23:55
flogI do intend upgrading to 19.10, cant do it just yet though since I dont have the bandwidth at work to do so.23:56
tomreynyes, this makes hardware unlikely. it doesn't rule out firmware issues.23:56
flogSo next step would be to boot the ubuntu installer and try monuting another usb drive?23:57
tomreynsounds like a good idea to me, if you have another. but then it'd already boot off an usb storage this way.23:57
flogI guess there might still be issues with amd ryzen since it is fairly new.23:59

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