[00:00] <blakkheim> does the mini.iso support uefi or no? i see an open bug report about it not, but the file itself contains boot/grub/efi.img and the installer has an option to create an EFI system partition
[00:01] <tomreyn> flog: the general architecture is supported fine for a while now, but you may want the newer kernel if you're on zen 2
[00:03] <tomreyn> blakkheim: so far my understanding is that it doesn't boot on uefi, but it should be easy to test. which one do you intend to use?
[00:03] <flog> tomreyn: ryzen 3700. I think that is zen 2
[00:03] <tomreyn> it is
[00:05] <blakkheim> tomreyn: i'm using the 19.10 mini.iso file with an efi system. the cd boots and the install completes, but it doesn't boot after that
[00:05] <tomreyn> blakkheim: hmm, do you still have the url of the bug report you found?
[00:06] <blakkheim> tomreyn: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/1429030
[00:08] <tomreyn> hmm, nothing conclusive is stated there
[00:08] <tomreyn> so, since your experience is that it would not boot like this, i guess the next best option is to try another installer
[00:10] <tomreyn> blakkheim: you may also need to disable AHCI / NVME "RAID" mode in bios, setting it to "SATA", i think
[00:11] <blakkheim> unfortunately this system is using open firmware/coreboot so there are no nice bios options
[00:11] <tomreyn> i would not consider this unfortunate
[00:11] <blakkheim> neither would i if my os would boot
[00:12] <tomreyn> you may need to get a bit of support from the vendor if you tried the standard installation and this wouldn't boot either
[00:12] <flog> tomreyn: so im currently on 5.0.0-36-generic. apt search linux-image-genereci returns 5.0.0.36.38 as installed. This is after apt update. So i guess im on the latest kernel on 19.04
[00:14] <tomreyn> flog: good. did you do the usb installer boot test?
[00:15] <flog> tomreyn: have not done that yet. But what baffles me is that i managed to mount my phone over usb once. So usb must have been working.
[00:16] <flog> Let me reboot and try again.
[00:17] <tomreyn> this returns the running kernels' patch level:   cat /proc/version | grep -o '#...'
[00:18] <tomreyn> or maybe this is better    cat /proc/version | grep -o '#[0-9]*'
[00:19] <tomreyn> or just    grep -o '#[0-9]*' /proc/version
[00:28] <flog> tomreyn: booted the usb stick with ubuntu installer. dmesg shows usb devices when i plug/unplug my second usb stick.
[00:29] <flog> So my installation has gotten messed up.
[00:30] <sarnold> is that a live session that you could install mtp-tools or jmtpfs packages into and see if your usb is then busted?
[00:30] <flog> Defudge, booted my machine normally(no live distro), dmesg reports usb devices when i plug them in.
[00:31] <flog> So it seems like uninstalling jmtpfs and mtp-tools and rebooting MULTIPLE times needed to get usb back.
[00:37] <flog> sarnold: guess i need to boot a live session again and try to break usb with installing mtp-tools and jmtpfs there.
[00:38] <tomreyn> sarnold: hmm so maybe you were right all along. i couldn't imagine it since there was nothing on dmesg at all when flog was attaching usb devices earlier
[00:39] <flog> Dont like "fixes" like this one :p
[00:39] <sarnold> tomreyn: that's what made me wonder if the mtp-tools package "flipped" the usb port around a bit or something similar and now it's not a usb host but now usb client or who knows what, it's all very confusing ;)
[00:40] <flog> It is too much of a wintendo solution, "Have you tried turning it off and on again?"
[00:42] <tomreyn> sarnold: i guess this must be what has happened then, yes. jmtpfs "was specifically designed for exchanging files between Linux (and Mac OS X) systems and newer Android devices that support MTP but not USB Mass Storage"
[00:43] <tomreyn> so maybe mass storage functionality is dropped in favor of mtp ;)
[00:43] <sarnold> I fully expect these programs to have some way to reverse what they've done without rebooting
[00:43] <sarnold> but I don't know these programs :)
[00:46] <tomreyn> jmtpfs is a fuse FS, so, yes, it should. i don't think mtp-tools would cause mass storage devices to break, it's user space utils which can use libmtp.
[00:47] <tomreyn> flog: the assumption is now that it worked originally, and then some user made some changes. ;)
[00:50] <flog> tomreyn: but if mass storage functionallity was dropped in favour for mtp why wouldnt dmesg list my phone either?
[00:50] <tomreyn> flog: i couldn't tell really, it's just theories.
[00:51] <flog> Maybe there is a better way to transfere files from my phone.
[00:51] <flog> But i thought that mtp was the way to do it.
[00:52] <flog> What do you guys use?
[00:53] <sarnold> I haven't moved files around on phones 'by hand' for half-dozen years or more.. if i had to do it today I'd probably try to find a nextcloud client and set up a nextcloud server; or maybe some google-drive tools on my computer to suck things off google drive
[00:54] <tomreyn> adb also works. but i think libmtp and a graphical file browser can also work, but i'm not the most experienced person with it
[00:55] <sarnold> oh yeah I did adb with the ubuntu phone way back when..
[00:56] <flog> I cant rely on using cloud services. I dont have the bandwidth at work to use cloud services.
[00:57] <tomreyn> nextcloud is something you'd host yourself
[00:57] <flog> Locally?
[00:57] <tomreyn> can be
[00:58] <flog> Ill look into it.
[00:59] <sarnold> looks like the phone clients may be beta https://nextcloud.com/install/#install-clients
[00:59] <sarnold> 4.1 stars with 4k reviews, the histogram looks reasonable enough https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nextcloud.client
[01:00] <flog> I cant download 100MB at work though :/
[01:00] <flog> Thatll kill the internet for everyone else.
[01:01] <tomreyn> https://search.f-droid.org/?q=nextcloud
[01:02] <flog> Something to look into when i get home.
[01:02] <sarnold>   stable:       16.0.5snap3              2019-10-25 (16739) 221MB -
[01:03] <sarnold> if I'm understanding this output correctly it's a bit more than 100..
[01:03] <flog> sarnold: 1Mbit satellite connection shared by 50+ people. used both for work and wellfare.
[01:04] <sarnold> yeah that's 100% not going to go over well
[01:04] <flog> Nope.
[01:04] <sarnold> usb cable makes a ton more sense now :)
[01:04] <flog> haha.
[01:04] <sarnold> nextcloud may still make sense for you, but *getting* it isn't going to be great
[01:05] <flog> Ill check it out when i get back home to my 250/250Mbit fiber :p
[01:05] <sarnold> I'm curious, how far is work from home? that's a pretty staggering difference
[01:06] <flog> sarnold: offshore vessel. this time im across the atlantic.
[01:07] <sarnold> flog: thanks for indulging my curiosity :)
[01:07] <flog> Usually back in europe i could tether if i get close enough to get cellphone service.
[01:08] <flog> Close enough to land.
[01:08] <flog> Enough off-topic though.
[01:16] <flog> Next issue! Want to change the tray icon for nm-applet. Its way to dark to use on a dark background. Using i3.
[01:18] <sarnold> this shows a bunch of the images use with nm-applet dpkg -L network-manager-gnome
[01:19] <sarnold> there may be ways to change the theme in use but I've never tried changing gnome these
[01:19] <sarnold> s/these/themes/
[01:19] <flog> vim user spotted ;)
[01:20] <tiox> Had someone made a sane package for libpng12-0:i386 (and :amd64) for use on Ubuntu 19.04 and up yet?
[01:21] <tiox> I keeep getting a stupid conflict that's not solvable through apt's usual procedures when installing the package for Xenial, which worked up to Disco.
[01:21] <tiox> Up to Cosmic rather. On Disco and up it fails to install.
[01:21] <tiox> I assume it's because of libpng16-16 throwing a wrench in the works unintentionally.
[01:22] <flog> sarnold: i would have thought i could use gnome-tweak-tool for it. but it only seems to provide some customization.
[01:24] <sarnold> flog: I have no idea who this user is, or if he should be trusted with root on your computer, but it looks promising https://launchpad.net/~jonathonf/+archive/ubuntu/libpng12
[01:37] <tiox> Oh turns out I don't need libpng12-0 to run zsnes but I wonder now; the software was complaining about this software lacking, but now it works without? tf?
[01:39] <Ben64> tiox: https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/zsnes
[01:39] <Ben64> says right there it needs libpng16
[01:39] <sarnold> oh bother I didn't notice that flog != tiox
[01:40] <sarnold> everyone should have a different length nickname to avoid this problem :)
[01:40] <flog> sarnold: no worries :p
[01:40] <Ben64> sarnold: my client colors nicks based on magic
[01:40] <sarnold> Ben64: yeah that would have helped me more than once :)
[01:40] <Ben64> but occasionally people have the same length and color and i'm just lost
[01:40] <sarnold> Ben64: "investigat weechat" has been on my todo list for ten years though
[01:41] <Ben64> i'm on hexchat
[01:41] <sarnold> ah that's never been on ny todo list :) heh
[01:42] <flog> sarnold: think i found the tool i wanted to use. lxappearance
[01:43] <sarnold> flog: that works for nm-applet?
[01:43] <sarnold> the screenshot on lxde.org looks nice enough though :)
[01:43] <sarnold> oh wow that'sfrom 2008.
[01:43] <flog> Dont know yet but i remembered it had more options than gnome-tweaks
[01:44] <flog> Nope no settings for tray icons.
[01:47] <sarnold> flog: this looks promising https://askubuntu.com/questions/15240/how-to-change-the-icon-for-network-monitor-applet
[01:49] <flog> sarnold: stumbled over that one already. But ill check it again.
[01:50] <flog> I usually like to use a ui to configure fonts and themes since those settings usually points to multiple resources. But if there is no other way than doing it manually then i ll just have to do that .
[01:54] <brandonkal> I have a long Dockerfile with the usual `RUN apt upgrade && apt install a \ b \ c \ ... \ dep150` What is the best way to take this list and check each requested package exists before download and install? It's not pleasant for it to error out after a long build process because of a typo several lines down. Thanks.
[01:55] <sarnold> in what cases would a package be listed but not be available?
[01:59] <tomreyn> brandonkal: i suspect it's supposed to say "RUN apt upDATe && ..."
[02:01] <Zeitkind> Q: alt-key + mouseclick on the desktop (= any unused area where no window of any app is) on a Mac let the app in front/focus get hidden. I'm so f** used to this - how can I get this on Ubuntu?
[02:08] <sarnold> tomreyn: heh nice spot
[02:09] <tomreyn> :) it could explain why packages aren't installable
[02:12] <sarnold> Zeitkind: that feels like the sort of thing that ought to be easy for the right person to write an extension for gnome-shell to do.. alas I don't know who that person is or if it already exists
[02:13] <sarnold> there's a huge list of gnome extensions on https://extensions.gnome.org/# but 'desktop' and 'click' are way too broad.. heh
[02:14] <Zeitkind> if you ever get used to stuff..
[02:14] <Zeitkind> like the meta key.. took me ages..
[02:15] <sarnold> heh isn't that the truth
[02:17] <flog> Whohoo managed to change tray icon with lxapperance
[02:17] <sarnold> sweet
[02:18] <flog> Seems like nm-applet inherits the icon from the icon pack and its just that the icon in the moka icon back is useless on a dark background.
[02:18] <flog> Does not fit with the colortheme im using.
[02:29] <ajvermillion> Hey, whoever told me my problem was hardware earlier when I was convinced otherwise, it looks like you were right
[02:30] <ajvermillion> I took the laptop apart, set it under a fan, reassembled it (making sure everything was connected firmly), and I can't get the error again
[02:31] <ajvermillion> On the other hand, you owe me the screw I lost to oblivion
[04:09] <Hellz_Bellz> hello! which nvidia package do I download for the GTX 1660 super?
[04:10] <Hellz_Bellz> e.g. nvidia-390 nvidia-490 etc. etc.
[04:11] <Hellz_Bellz> 3
[04:11] <Hellz_Bellz> has IRC finally died?!?! its been years but it was NEVER this slow on here :(
[04:12] <Hellz_Bellz> I am sad meow
[04:12] <flog> !patience
[04:13] <flog> Not really peak hours right now.
[04:13] <Hellz_Bellz> flog, I was lamenting that discord has taken over and nobody uses IRC anymore... freaking x<25 age group hardly even knows it exists!
[04:14] <flog> Discord or slack i guess. Still like irc better.
[04:14] <Hellz_Bellz> IIRC, #ubuntu was ALWAYS too fast to pay attention
[04:14] <Hellz_Bellz> cant use discord in the terminal when youre working lol
[04:15] <flog> There seems to be a terminalbased client for discord though ;)
[04:17] <Hellz_Bellz> WAT u say? I like! but screw yahoo search! mint needs to get rid of that crap
[04:17] <Hellz_Bellz> i'm on mint actually, are the packages named the same?
[04:18] <flog> cordless?
[04:20] <Hellz_Bellz> uhhhh... nah the computer has cords ?
[04:20] <Hellz_Bellz> dont understand
[04:21] <flog> Hellz_Bellz: https://github.com/Bios-Marcel/cordless
[04:22] <_NeFF_> wow
[04:23] <_NeFF_> Interesting...
[04:23] <_NeFF_> Discord client for terminal????
[04:25] <Hellz_Bellz> oh my yes,
[04:25] <_NeFF_> Must try it
[04:25] <flog> There seems to be a bunch of them.
[04:26] <flog> Not really ubuntu-related though.
[04:26] <Hellz_Bellz> terminator, cordless/irssi, nano and one other program i forgot all on one pane lol
[04:27] <_NeFF_> Damn it!It's awesome!!!!
[04:28] <_NeFF_> But...it's voiceless...
[04:28] <Hellz_Bellz> who careas lol
[04:28] <_NeFF_> mmmm...
[04:31] <flog> _NeFF_: https://github.com/terminal-discord
[04:32] <_NeFF_> lol
[04:37] <tomreyn> Hellz_Bellz: just use what ubuntu-drivers suggests / installs. if this doesn't seem to work, there's a "graphics-drivers" PPA
[04:38] <Hellz_Bellz> ohhh it has listed GPU in the doc folders!
[04:38] <Hellz_Bellz> i was reading the entries for info and it had a link to the docs !
[04:42] <Hellz_Bellz> darnit... have to install it first!
[04:43] <tomreyn> oh, actually we don't support mint here
[04:44] <brandonkal> tomreyn, yes it is update. Typo in irc
[04:45] <Hellz_Bellz> i was just asking if the packages are the same name or if someone had experience with NVIDIA or the card in general
[04:46] <Hellz_Bellz> I have the proprietary drivers but cannot find the unit designation of the linux onies and as far as im aware tyhey SHOUILD be named the same
[04:46] <Hellz_Bellz> and i hate my fingers
[04:46] <Ben64> Hellz_Bellz: you'll have to go to the mint channel for mint support
[04:46] <Hellz_Bellz> they are not open apparently
[04:47] <Ben64> !mint
[04:47] <Ben64> it's on another server, irc.spotchat.org
[04:47] <Hellz_Bellz> at least the one in the post on the forum called the official channel
[04:47] <tomreyn> you can always install ubuntu and get support here
[04:47] <Ben64> or get support in ##linux
[04:47] <Ben64> but since this is ##ubuntu, we only deal with Ubuntu
[04:47] <Ben64> #ubuntu *
[04:48] <Hellz_Bellz> whats the package for ubuntu called for the gtx 1660 driver?
[04:48] <gry> Hellz_Bellz: what is the official channel?
[04:48] <Ben64> Hellz_Bellz: come on, don't do that
[04:48] <Hellz_Bellz> #linuxmint-help on spotchat
[04:48] <Hellz_Bellz> what exactly am i doing?
[04:48] <Ben64> trying to dodge the rules
[04:49] <Ben64> the channel is open, I just joined, there's 200+ people there
[04:49] <Hellz_Bellz> answer the questioon please
[04:49] <Ben64> you need to go to the mint channel or the generic linux channel
[04:49] <flog> Its like asking the vet to do a health checkup on a human.
[04:49] <Ben64> or anywhere else, really
[04:49] <brandonkal> So I asked earlier, but is there a clean way to check if a list of packages can be installed before installing?
[04:49] <Hellz_Bellz> i hate humans so fucking much
[04:50] <Ben64> cool
[04:50] <Ben64> brandonkal: huh? what list
[04:50] <flog> Was i too harsh?
[04:50] <Ben64> flog: no
[04:50] <flog> Thought it was a fiting annology.
[04:50] <Ben64> yeah not bad
[04:51] <tomreyn> brandonkal: after   apt update   you can check availability using    apt policy <package1> <package2> <...>
[04:53] <brandonkal> Ben64 this list specifically: https://github.com/brandonkal/docker-polyglot/blob/master/base/Dockerfile
[04:53] <brandonkal> apt policy could work though it is a bit noisy. I'll give it a try.
[04:58] <tomreyn> line 6 would probably cause the remaining package son the saem line to be ignored
[04:59] <Ben64> there's a dry run option you could probably do and get a code from at the end
[08:21] <kab0m> can somebody help me with a qml-script?
[08:27] <spaceghost_> Hello.
[08:27] <spaceghost_> How would you undo this? sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 4FE13824E3FFC656^C
[08:30] <kab0m> spaceghost_ try sudo apt-key del 4FE13824E3FFC656^C
[08:31] <kab0m> spaceghost_ check with sudo apt-key list after if key is deleted
[08:32] <spaceghost_> Oke.
[08:35] <spaceghost_> It worked but it didn't fix the problem that i expected.
[08:35] <spaceghost_> Thank you.
[08:36] <spaceghost_> Do you know how can i set the command line to english in order to get better help?, i would like to hold kde in spanish.
[08:38] <kab0m> spaceghost_ you have to edit "/etc/default/locale" to LANG="en_US" LANGUAGE="en_US:en" and "~/.pam_environment" to LANG=en_US LANGUAGE=en_US
[08:40] <kab0m> spaceghost_ dont forget to logout and login after that
[08:40] <spaceghost_> Oke.
[08:40] <TomyWork> I installed IntelliJ via snap. It just told me it couldn't save its config, so I took a look at the disk space. This is what I see: /dev/loop0                                    599M  599M     0 100% /snap/intellij-idea-community/189
[08:41] <TomyWork> is that to be expected or is it actually out of disk space?
[08:41] <TomyWork> can someone else with a bunch of snaps tell me if their loop devices are all out of space?
[08:43] <kab0m> TomyWork same over here...all /dev/loop* are at 100%
[08:44] <TomyWork> seems normal, then
[08:44] <TomyWork> 11260 /snap/intellij-idea-community/187/jbr/bin/java -classpath /snap/intellij-idea-community/187/lib/bootstrap.jar:/snap/intellij-idea-community/187/lib/extensions.jar ....
[08:44] <TomyWork> this is not good, why is it loading from /187 and not /189
[08:47] <spaceghost> I have these problem then.
[08:47] <spaceghost> ttps://pastebin.com/wRWxX0Rv
[08:47] <spaceghost> https://pastebin.com/JMqXGRUY
[08:47] <spaceghost> https://pastebin.com/wRWxX0Rv
[08:48] <mouses> https://askubuntu.com/questions/308760/w-gpg-error-http-ppa-launchpad-net-precise-release-the-following-signatures
[08:50] <kab0m> spaceghost what happens if you run 'dpkg --configure -a' ?
[08:51] <spaceghost> This.
[08:51] <spaceghost> https://pastebin.com/dqZS0KmT
[08:52] <kab0m> spaceghost 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[08:54] <funabashi> Hi all, i want to check if ntpd start automaticlly after a reboot, how do i check that?
[08:56] <kab0m> spaceghost looking at https://pastebin.com/wRWxX0Rv it looks liek you have some old apt sources from mixed distributions bionic/Artful there...also the errormessage about i396 architecture from virtualbox...i guess you should clean up your apt sources by hand to get rid of wrong sources and wrong architectures...but thats just me guessing you are
[08:56] <kab0m> runnig amd64 arch...
[08:56] <spaceghost> I need to open what archive for that kab0m?
[08:57] <Ecko_> funabashi, maybe this? `ps aux | grep ntpd`
[08:57] <Ecko_> Or `ps aux | grep ntpd | grep -v grep`
[08:57] <Ecko_> I don't know your use case
[08:58] <funabashi> yes its running but how do i know if its start after reboot?
[08:58] <funabashi> ntp      15968  0.0  0.0  30740  2060 ?        Ss   Nov18   0:00 ntpd -u ntp:ntp -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -g
[08:59] <kab0m> spaceghost no "archives", textfiles...your apt sources are located in "/etc/apt/sources.list" and "/etc/apt/sources.list.d/" chec every list file in there with nano and look for OLD repositories from artful etc.
[08:59] <kab0m> spaceghost is this a fresh installed kde neon or did you update from a older version?
[09:00] <spaceghost> Fresh, i added a stupid ppa to install brave browser, that is the origin of the problem.
[09:01] <kab0m> spaceghost it does not look like the single ppa was you only problem ;) cause virtualbox is complaining about wrong architecture too.
[09:01] <kab0m> spaceghost what was the link to the ppa?
[09:01] <spaceghost> I am commenting it.
[09:01] <spaceghost> To avoid it.
[09:01] <kab0m> spaceghost BTW you are better off not using brave and use firefox instead
[09:02] <spaceghost> It was this one: http://ppa.launchpad.net/samoilov-lex/aftl-stable/ubuntu artful main
[09:03] <kab0m> spaceghost how did you added this ppa?
[09:03] <spaceghost> Running these commands.
[09:04] <spaceghost> sudo apt install brave-browsers
[09:04] <spaceghost> echo "deb [arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ $UBUNTU_CODENAME main" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release-${UBUNTU_CODENAME}.list
[09:05] <spaceghost> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 4FE13824E3FFC656
[09:06] <kab0m> spaceghost 'sudo rm -rf /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release-*' and 'sudo apt-key del 4FE13824E3FFC656'
[09:07] <funabashi> All services in /etc/init.d/
[09:07] <funabashi> will they start after next reboot?
[09:07] <kab0m> spaceghost does lsb_release -a show codename bionic ?
[09:08] <kab0m> spaceghost 'lsb_release -a'
[09:08] <spaceghost> Yes.
[09:08] <spaceghost> Release:        18.04
[09:08] <spaceghost> Codename:       bionic
[09:09] <kab0m> emove the apt list file from bravebrowser as shown above and als the other ppa you added via 'sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:samoilov-lex/aftl-stable'
[09:09] <kab0m> spaceghost remove the apt list file from bravebrowser as shown above and als the other ppa you added via 'sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:samoilov-lex/aftl-stable'
[09:10] <kab0m> spaceghost btw, you dont need "android-file-transfer" as kde neon can handle MTP via the dolphin file explorer ;)
[09:11] <spaceghost> Thank you.
[09:14] <kab0m> spaceghost do you have virtualbox installed?
[09:14] <spaceghost> Yes.
[09:14] <spaceghost> I commented the ppa just in case but i found a way to fix that error.
[09:14] <kab0m> spaceghost how did you install virtualbox and what is you model of your CPU?
[09:15] <spaceghost> The architecture?
[09:15] <kab0m> *the model of your cpu
[09:15] <kab0m> spaceghost no like intel i7-7700k or something like that
[09:15] <spaceghost> It is i5, 3rd generation i think.
[09:15] <kab0m> spaceghost so you are sure its a 64bit cpu right?
[09:16] <spaceghost> Yes.
[09:16] <spaceghost> As part of Lenovo's 2012 lineup, the X230 uses Intel's third generation Core ix CPU as expected. Our specific model on hand uses the new 2.6GHz Core i5-3320M, but users can upgrade to a 2.8GHz Core i5-3360M or a 2.9GHz i7-3520M or even downgrade to a 2.4GHz Sandy Bridge i3-2370M if need be.
[09:16] <kab0m> spaceghost how exactly did you install virtualbox?
[09:17] <spaceghost> I think that from discovery.
[09:18] <spaceghost> I need to restart now.
[09:20] <spaceghost> Back.
[09:35] <kab0m> and does apkcon refresh now work?
[09:35] <kab0m> spaceghost and does apkcon refresh now work?
[09:35] <kab0m> spaceghost sorry, i meant pkcon
[09:35] <spaceghost> Yes.
[09:35] <spaceghost> And pkcon update.
[09:35] <spaceghost> Thank you.
[09:35] <kab0m> without errors?
[09:36] <spaceghost> Without errors, i even uncommented the virtualbox and now it neither shows the error or warning.
[09:36] <kab0m> spaceghost great
[09:37] <kab0m> spaceghost btw, better remove the current virtualbox completely and use the new vb 6.0 from the oracle repo... heres is a tutorial https://tecadmin.net/install-virtualbox-on-ubuntu-18-04/
[10:01] <spaceghost> Oke.
[10:01] <spaceghost> Thanks.
[10:04] <Fudge> anyone know a command line setting to turn numlock on
[10:08] <Ben64> Fudge: check out setleds
[10:08] <kab0m> spaceghost I’m happy to help
[10:09] <Fudge> thansk Ben64
[10:33] <CEWS> /4/6
[10:33] <CEWS> Don't you just hate that
[10:46] <kab0m> CEWS hate what?
[10:55] <CEWS> Messing up ^
[11:34] <baako> hi guys how do i convert my ssh ptivate key to openssh?
[11:34] <baako> format
[11:48] <Pricey> baako: What format is it currently in? (Where did you generate/obtain it from?)
[11:53] <kab0m> I cant run a qml-script in kde neon. Error "qml: Did not load any objects, exiting." the same script runs fine ob ubuntu 18.04. Anyone knows what to do?
[11:58] <iopq> I've entered into a second log-in loop with Ubuntu 19 in two days
[12:11] <iopq> can you even install cuda on ubuntu 19
[12:39] <sweb> my server is reset and i see logs: "systemd-logind[953]: Power key pressed." And IPMI logs show "System ACPI Power State ACPI | S4/S5: soft-off | Asserted"
[12:39] <sweb> is power failure or someone push power button or power off by ILO ?
[12:39] <sweb> how could id find out
[12:40] <rana_ans> hi, Im using ubuntu in dual-mode with windows 10. I want to use phoenixOS as well. I installed it from their site but when I run it, it restarts my pc to the same grub menu of ubuntu and windows 10 and I cant seem to boot into PhoenixOS
[12:44] <slipttees> ioria rsrs
[12:44] <ioria> slipttees, hey
[12:45] <slipttees> still not working
[12:46] <slipttees> install win10 again to verify ethernet problem
[12:46] <ioria> slipttees, the module get loaded at least ?
[12:46] <slipttees> same problem
[12:49] <ioria> slipttees, i'd try to reseat the card in another slot
[12:53] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:05] <malmen> hi guys
[13:05] <malmen> anyway to isntall amdgpu on ubuntu 19.10 ?
[13:05] <OerHeks> if your GPU is amdgpu driver capable, it should already be loaded
[13:06] <malmen> glxgeers have only 60fps
[13:08] <malmen> lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 vga
[13:08] <malmen> 	Kernel driver in use: amdgpu
[13:19] <pragmaticenigma> malmen: For reference, glxgears is not a benchmark tool. It is only intended to tell you that OpenGL drivers and routines are working with your graphics card
[13:32] <slipttees> ioria notebook bro
[14:02] <oxek> where do I configure whether a user is allowed to mount a removable usb stick without root privileges?
[14:02] <oxek> currently, when a usb flashdrive is inserted, icon appears on desktop but clicking it produces an arror, not even a popup asking for root privileges
[14:04] <OerHeks> oxek, looks like there is an error on that usb device, perform a fsck perhaps?
[14:05] <OerHeks> or partebion the error would be helpfull
[14:05] <oxek> OerHeks: everything works if I mount it using `sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt`
[14:06] <OerHeks> oke, that is helpfull too
[14:06] <OerHeks> seems like you(r user) do not own the data
[14:06] <oxek> the error is "Failed to mount "USBSTICK" Not authorized to perform operation"
[14:07] <OerHeks> chown ( change owner) would fix that
[14:07] <oxek> it is a fat32 filesystem, there are no permissions
[14:07] <oxek> it's a standard usb flashdrive
[14:07] <oxek> happens with every usb flashdrive I own
[14:07] <OerHeks> oh fat32, certainly it contains errors,. that prevents mounting as non-root
[14:07] <oxek> btw it does not happen on another machine with the same usb stick
[14:08] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting
[14:08] <oxek> on the other machine, I just put the stick in, and double click icon on desktop, and it opens in file browser
[14:08] <OerHeks> and is that other system linux?
[14:08] <oxek> yes
[14:08] <oxek> ubuntu as well
[14:08] <OerHeks> how odd, perform a fsck to be sure it is not a bad filesystem
[14:08] <pragmaticenigma> oxek: Also, the GUI mounts using udiskctl instead of "sudo mount". udiskctl handles mounting the device automatically into the /media/{user}/{device_label} with permissions for the current user.
[14:09] <oxek> pragmaticenigma: `udisksctl mount -b /dev/sdc1` pops up a GUI asking for root password, and when I enter the root password it successfully mounts it
[14:09] <slipttees> ioria Well done
[14:09] <slipttees> Add noapic in grub parameter
[14:09] <slipttees> kkkkkkkkkkkkk
[14:09] <oxek> I'd prefer to not have to put in root password
[14:09] <oxek> just like on the other ubuntu machine
[14:09] <oxek> and don't know where to configure that
[14:10] <OerHeks> fat32 and rootpasswored, there is something funny going on, if your claim is right
[14:10] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting
[14:11] <slipttees> ehhehehehe
[14:11] <pragmaticenigma> oxek: Have you made changes to the permissions settings of your installation? By default, the GUI uses udiskctl and by default it does not require the currently logged in user to provide their password to mount
[14:11] <oxek> OerHeks: I just `dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc` then fdisk to create partition, then mkfs.vfat to create filesystem on that drive, and same error happens
[14:11] <oxek> the drive is fine
[14:11] <oxek> the filesystem is fine as well
[14:11] <oxek> it is just some configuration somewhere
[14:11] <OerHeks> i think that drive is bad.
[14:12] <oxek> OerHeks: every single usb stick I have? When it works flawlessly on another ubuntu machine, and in livecd enviroment on the same machine?
[14:13] <oxek> pragmaticenigma: I don't think I've made any permissions settings. My user is member of the sudo group if that matters.
[14:13] <slipttees> ioria pastebin.com/dMjzPdFu
[14:13] <oxek> where would I check the permissions?
[14:13] <oxek> that's what I am probably looking for
[14:15] <oxek> there are many reports online of "Failed to mount "..." Not authorized to perform operation" but with no solutions
[14:16] <pragmatic_enigma> oxek: Have you ever made any changes to the sudoers file or any other permissions based settings on your machine?
[14:16] <slipttees> ioria thanks for patiente and help.
[14:16] <OerHeks> there is no simple setting to allow/prevent an user mounting fat32..
[14:18] <oxek> pragmatic_enigma: `sudo md5sum /etc/sudoers` gives the same hash for the sudoers file on both machines
[14:18] <oxek> I have not made any changes to that file
[14:18] <Tolhsadum> Hi y'all! I've got a really weird problem. Someone installed some security thing from DevSec Ubuntu baseline something and it basically broke my grub. After that, I was unable to boot with any option in the grub (even recovery). I tried to boot-repair and it failed and gave me this report: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/thHzYY3ZMF/   eventually I
[14:18] <Tolhsadum> decided to reinstall Ubuntu 18.04 from scratch but after the first reboot, I had the same problem -__-
[14:19] <oxek> OerHeks: then I am looking for the more complicated setting
[14:19] <pragmatic_enigma> Tolhsadum: I suggest you seek out that person that helped you for instructions on how to undo those changes
[14:20] <Tolhsadum> He doesn't know xD
[14:21] <oxek> pragmatic_enigma: where are some other permission-based settings? I have not made any changes, but want to compare the working machine with the broken one.
[14:21] <oxek> sudoers is the same
[14:21] <oxek> group membership is the same
[14:22] <pragmatic_enigma> Tolhsadum: Try a BIOS factory reset... if the problem persists after a reinstall, it's not the operating system
[14:23] <Tolhsadum> Oh yeah good idea, thanks!
[14:25] <pragmatic_enigma> Tolhsadum: If that doesn't work, it's possible something is logged in the UEFI/EFI (?) registry. That is something I'm unfamiliar with unfortunately. My general practice is to not let friends help with my computers, but rather send me their sources for their ideas so I can undo it later
[14:27] <oxek> I also don't see any error in dmesg, and lsblk correctly shows the device and the partition without requiring root
[14:27] <Tolhsadum> I usually do the same but he is supposed to be the engineer of our team and is supposed to admin our computers. So I cannot really prevent him from having his hands on my computer :p
[14:28] <pragmatic_enigma> Tolhsadum: ah, I see... sounds like someone needs some retraining
[14:29] <pragmaticenigma> oxek: I'm kind of out of ideas. I know that udiskctl is a good place to start your search to find a solution. As to why it's requiring the password, I'm not sure... I haven't run into that issue before
[14:32] <oxek> pragmaticenigma: `udisksctl monitor` run without sudo, properly shows the usb stick when it is inserted
[14:32] <gigirock> oxek, excuse me i have no log, what's the matter ?
[14:32] <oxek> gigirock: when a usb flashdrive is inserted, icon appears on desktop but clicking it produces an arror, not even a popup asking for root privileges
[14:33] <oxek> it works perfectly fine on another ubuntu machine
[14:33] <gigirock> oxek, mmmmh check the group of the user logged
[14:34] <oxek> groups membership is the same for both users on both machines
[14:34] <oxek> the error is the well-known "Failed to mount "USBSTICK" Not authorized to perform operation"
[14:34] <oxek> with no solutions online
[14:34] <gigirock> and both the computers are running uefi bios ?
[14:35] <oxek> gigirock: both are uefi, but I don't think that's relevant here - there was another user here recently with some uefi issues
[14:36] <Tolhsadum> Ok I seem to have a reproducible problem. I reinstall Ubuntu 18.04 from a live usb. If i reboot directly after the install it works fine. But if I make the first update from the gui when I reboot the grub is broken again
[14:36] <wedr> Hello, on an Ubuntu installation, with Apache Tomcat installed, where can I find the folder directory location for /srv/tomcat/incoming ?
[14:37] <pragmaticenigma> Tolhsadum: Most common issue is graphics drivers causing blank screens on boot. Try adding nomodeset during boot?
[14:38] <wedr> Or this is more of a Tomcat question, since I feel the /srv/tomcat seems to be a particularly specific Tomcat folder...
[14:38] <gigirock> oxek, in modern bios , you have to 'promote' some device to be secure for the system, for example external disks
[14:39] <Tolhsadum> I'll try but I don't have a black/white screen it just reboots for ever
[14:39] <pragmaticenigma> wedr: Ubuntu places web server content in /var/www path. Where are you reading your documentation?
[14:39] <oxek> gigirock: that goes beyond my knowledge - please advice where I can read up on this
[14:42] <wedr> pragmaticenigma, it was a company documentation citing something official from the Ubuntu docs, but it's a broken link so I have no way to verify it
[14:42] <wedr> probably because of the formatting
[14:42] <wedr> I did see a /srv/ folder on Ubuntu though
[14:43] <Tolhsadum> Alright, nomodeset doesn't work :s
[14:43] <pragmaticenigma> wedr: That sounds like someone in your company has the answers you seek. Companies frequently change things to suit their needs. I would be looking for a resource in your company that knows how things are configured.
[14:43] <wedr> They left a while ago, back in August. All knowledge transfers were made, but they're all in Ellington, CT.
[14:43] <wedr> I'm in Boston.
[14:44] <wedr> And none of the KTs have information about Ubuntu specific configurations the company uses
[14:44] <gigirock> oxek, we are out of issue, https://deploymentresearch.com/allowing-normal-users-to-connect-to-a-new-thunderbolt-docking-station/ in this case the security is about thunderbolt , but you can setup also something for usb ports.
[14:45] <oxek> gigirock: thunderbolt is a different beast due to DMA, usb does not have DMA hence no need for root permissions
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> !who | Tolhsadum
[14:46] <pragmaticenigma> wedr: This channel focuses it's support on the packages and software as provided throug the Ubuntu software repositories. It is going to be very difficult for us to troubleshoot or help on anything that resides outside that realm. You're best to start trying to reach out to those contacts. You might find some help in an apache specific user community
[14:47] <wedr> yeah, I was thinking about that
[14:47] <wedr> I'll go ahead and seek Apache, thanks
[15:09] <Tolhsadum> I just noticed a quick error when I boot saying "broken BIOS?". I think it's linked to what prevents me from passing the grub and even repairing it :s
[15:09] <Tolhsadum> Does anyone know how to fix the BIOS? :S
[15:09] <oxek> Tolhsadum: that dmesg line is irrelevant
[15:09] <oxek> it shows on almost every machine
[15:12] <Tolhsadum> oxek I didn't have that before though. And I tried to fix my grub the whole day :s. Even after reinstalling Ubuntu 18.04 I still have the problem. It seems to be linked to the update
[15:12] <Tolhsadum> If I reboot before doing any update right after ubuntu brand new installation it works. But as soon as I do the first update I can't reboot anymore
[15:15] <oxek> Tolhsadum: what gets updated during the first update?
[15:18] <Tolhsadum> It was through the GUI update manager, maybe I should do it manually. But I see that many security updates and among them ubuntu base with like 100 packages :s
[15:18] <Tolhsadum> It's the first update right after the installation so it's kinda big
[15:18] <pragmaticenigma> depending on what image you're installing from... could be nearly all the packages
[15:19] <pragmaticenigma> Tolhsadum: Have you tried installing from the mini.iso? That downloads the latest packages as they're being installed. Reducing the number of updates needed on first run.
[15:20] <Tolhsadum> pragmaticenigma oh no I took the official 18.04 iso, like the first link I found
[15:20] <pragmaticenigma> Tolhsadum: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[15:21] <Tolhsadum> http://releases.ubuntu.com/18.04/ that one
[15:21] <mmlj4> morning... would someone tell me the versions of nmap and MariaDB on the latest stable version of Ubuntu? thanks.
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> !info nmap bionic | mmlj4
[15:22] <pragmaticenigma> Tolhsadum: It will also help narrow down if it's something to do with the graphics driver. I don't do a lot of customization through the mini installer. I just check the box for either server or the desktop flavor I desire.
[15:23] <mmlj4> !info mariadb bioni
[15:23] <mmlj4> !info mariadb bionic
[15:23] <mmlj4> grr... but thanks, guys
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> mmlj4: you probably want mariadb-server or -client
[15:24] <pragmaticenigma> !info mariadb-server bionic | mmlj4
[15:24] <mmlj4> ah, thanks
[15:32] <Rockwood> hi
[15:32] <Rockwood> I just install ubuntu 19 server
[15:32] <Rockwood> in virtualbox
[15:33] <Rockwood> now my question is can install GUI on server in virtualbox
[15:33] <Rockwood> can I?
[15:33] <pragmaticenigma> Rockwood: "sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop"
[15:33] <Fuchs> Rockwood: can yes, but why would you like a GUI on a server? In most cases this is discouraged
[15:34] <compdoc> Rockwood, yes, but you need a 2d desktop if you want remote desktop
[15:34] <compdoc> I put minimal desktops on all my ubuntu servers
[15:34] <pragmaticenigma> Fuchs: We're here to help, please avoid criticism.
[15:35] <Rockwood> Fuchs I don't understand your point
[15:35] <Fuchs> pragmaticenigma: it's not criticism, it's helping to shoot in oneselfs foot from various points of views  (ressources, security and remote sessions), hence if I have more details I might be able to suggest a better solution
[15:35] <Fuchs> Rockwood: what is your use case to have a GUI on the server for?
[15:36] <nightuser> Hi! I'm building my own stripped-down variant of kernel for my small arm-based device and I want to use Ubuntu there. Does Ubuntu require some specific kernel options to be set? Also, is it necessary to apply Ubuntu's own patchset on top of the kernel (like https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v5.3.12/ )?
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | Fuchs
[15:36] <Fuchs> lotuspsychje: yes, thanks, I am supporting Rockwood
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> Fuchs: as pragmaticenigma was saying, please keep support & opinions divided
[15:37] <Rockwood> Fuchs actually it makes work easier to me in some cases
[15:37] <Fuchs> it's not an opinion, really. What compdoc wrote might affect them, therefore recommending a solution that might break various things should probably be analyzed
[15:38] <Fuchs> Rockwood: that's fine, for various reasons it might make sense to install something more lightweight, though. Will you be needing graphical remote sessions as well?
[15:38] <Fuchs> Rockwood: also how much ressources (RAM, mainly) does that VM have?
[15:38] <Rockwood> 1.5 GB
[15:39] <Rockwood> sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop I did this
[15:39] <Fuchs> yeah, then I'd definitely suggest something way more lightweight, otherwise you will most likely either run into swapping, which will make your server very slow, or have random applications / services killed by the oom killer
[15:39] <Rockwood> as per suggested me
[15:39] <compdoc> Mate makes an excellent minimal desktop
[15:39] <Rockwood> its 6 %
[15:40] <Rockwood> stop it now?
[15:40] <Rockwood> stopped
[15:40] <Fuchs> Rockwood: you can install it and you can try running it, if you run into the above mentioned issues, I recommend installing something more lightweight
[15:40] <compdoc> I dont beleive you can use the standard Ubuntu desktop if you want to log in remotely
[15:40] <Fuchs> you can't, but given it's a VM they might not need to, hence me asking
[15:40] <Rockwood> idk know which lightweight?
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> please take this to #ubuntu-discuss
[15:41] <Fuchs> Rockwood: there are many and it comes down to personal preference, but if you don't have a preference, try   apt install lxde     (you can alsso have ubuntu-desktop installed at the same time, and choose which to use at login)
[15:41] <oerheks1> lotuspsychje, i think this is alright
[15:41] <Fuchs> lotuspsychje: ubuntu-desktop with 1.5 GB will swap. This is not a matter of opinion or preference, but rather giving support advice that is very likely to break for the user
[15:42] <Rockwood> how to remove that incomplete installtion
[15:42] <pragmaticenigma> Fuchs: They should install "sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop" for lxde... the meta package contains dependiceis and scripts for setting up the xserver properly.
[15:42] <Rockwood> idk much about ubuntu
[15:42] <Fuchs> Rockwood: if apt complains about something that is unconfigured, it will give you the command to fix it, but you are most likely fine. Feel free to install both and see which one works for you, if you run into memory issues or need remote desktop, try the second one
[15:42] <Fuchs> pragmaticenigma: ah, thanks, that one, then
[15:47] <ioria> nowadays lubuntu-desktop and lxde are 2 different things; the first will pull lxqt not lxde
[15:48] <Rockwood> I think I need lamp stack too for my ubuntu server
[15:48] <Fuchs> ioria: either will most likely be fine, just ubuntu-desktop won't, as the 1.5 GB RAM the user has is _way_ below the recommendation
[15:48] <ioria> agree
[15:56] <Rockwood> in ubuntu 19 server having default (pre installed) PHP, MySQL and Apache  too?
[15:58] <oerheks1> Rockwood, no, you must have seen alacarte where you can install additional packages in ubuntu server
[16:00] <oerheks1> sudo tasksel # would start this routine again
[16:01] <eelstrebor> heh, the hp gui says my black ink level is ok but only half a page prints before it fades to no print
[16:01] <Rockwood> sudo tasksel # would start this routine again  for me? oerheks1
[16:01] <oerheks1> Rockwood, yes
[16:02] <Tolhsadum> Me again, I'm in the grub console and I have an error when I ls: failure reading sector 0x2426 from `hd0'.
[16:02] <Rockwood> mean why i need this routine? not getting your point
[16:02] <Tolhsadum> It looks kinda bad, no?
[16:03] <oerheks1> Rockwood, you asked about php mysql apache.. just being friendly to show you how to install those
[16:04] <Rockwood> in this single command they will be install?
[16:04] <Rockwood> oerheks1
[16:05] <oerheks1> Rockwood, no, discover that menu what it gives. and there is ubuntu server manual what all parts mean
[16:05] <Rockwood> ah okay
[16:06] <oerheks1> one can cancel safely
[16:12] <Rockwood> i am getting two option gdm3 and lightdm   which should i use?
[16:13] <Fuchs> whichever you prefer
[16:14] <Fuchs> chances are that lightdm has fewer dependencies and uses fewer ressources
[16:14] <Rockwood> k
[16:25] <Rockwood> thanks friends cya soon :)
[16:26] <oerheks1> have fun, Rockwood
[16:53] <rangergord> I have Software Updater in 18.04 set to "Automatically check for updates: Never", but it's still running at startup and bothering me. I prefer to manually update from the terminal. How can I disable this GUI auto-updater, without affecting my ability to apt update?
[16:55] <rangergord> I can't just remove update-notifier because it's trying to remove ubuntu-desktop too
[16:56] <oerheks> edit  /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades and set unattended to 0 https://diyblindguy.com/tip-disable-unattended-upgrades-on-ubuntu-18-04-server/
[16:57] <oerheks> this will not affect manually updating
[16:58] <rangergord> oerheks: all of those were already at 0, I must have tried this a while back. APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists "0"; APT::Periodic::Download-Upgradeable-Packages "0"; APT::Periodic::AutocleanInterval "0"; APT::Periodic::Unattended-Upgrade "0";
[16:58] <rangergord> so that's not the solution :/
[16:59] <oerheks> oh, no clue then .. :-(
[17:00] <rangergord> I think I found out how. I used apt-file to show the contents of the update-notifier package, it installs a bunch of scripts to /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
[17:02] <oerheks> good spot.
[17:05] <rangergord> Well those were configs, but I found /etc/xdg/autostart/update-notifier.desktop among the files too, deleting that does it. Case closed, Watson!
[17:08] <avid_fan> Greetings all. How would I disconnect from a dead ssh session from within a tmux session? More info: I'm connected to a remote server, then start tmux, then ssh to another server. If I try to disconnect (<ENTER>~.) it terminates the initial connection, not the "nested" one. I want to kill the nested one.
[17:11] <avid_fan> I suppose I can kill the tmux window, but I was hoping to just break that ssh connection.
[17:11] <akk> I haven't used tmux, but ~. should kill an ssh session. You might have to hit return first.
[17:12] <akk> oh, oops, you said that, I guess tmux uses the same sequence?
[17:24] <pragmaticenigma> avid_fan: instead of keyboard shortcuts, which are going to be interpreted by the first client/application, you can type "logout" on the cli to close the connection
[17:24] <pragmaticenigma> or shorter, type "exit"
[17:26] <akk> I assume "dead ssh session" meant that there was no active shell on the other end.
[17:28] <pragmaticenigma> hard to know... when I read it, it felt more like they were unintentionally terminating the initial ssh connection
[17:30] <ioria> avid_fan, have you tried pressing  'twice' C-b  ?
[17:40] <avid_fan> Thanks for the feedback all. The issue is that sometimes the nested ssh session "locks" and normally when I run into this I can use the <ENTER>~. to disconnect. The problem is that since I'm already connected to a remote box that command kills the global ssh connection.
[17:41] <avid_fan> ioria: tried C-b a couple times, but that doesn't appear to really have done much.
[17:41] <avid_fan> I see no feedback in the terminal. I don't have a currently locked ssh session to try that on though.
[17:43] <ioria> avid_fan, for  C-b  i mean the prefix, unless you use something different
[17:45] <avid_fan> Yeah, I was following that bit.
[17:45] <avid_fan> My tmux is using the standard key bindings
[17:47] <ioria> avid_fan, so in theory the first prefix is caught by the outer session, and  the second is passed to the inner session
[17:49] <avid_fan> Oh, perhaps there's a misunderstanding ioria. I'm not starting tmux on my workstation, only once I connect to the central server. From there I ssh to yet other servers and it's this ssh session I'd like to disconnect from, instead of killing the tmux window.
[17:51] <ioria> avid_fan, ah, i see
[17:52] <avid_fan> If killing the tmux window is the answer, I'm fine with that. I just thought I'd ask to see if there was some other way.
[17:56] <raidghost> What graphical driver is recommanded on Hp probook 650 G1 ?
[17:57] <raidghost> Ive tried upgrading from 18.04 to 19.10 (19.04 and then 19.10) but still it seems like ubuntu got a driver issue with the intel chipset
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> raidghost: wich graphics card is inside?
[18:00] <raidghost> lotuspsychje: Intel Integrated HD Graphics 4600
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> raidghost: intel drivers should be automaticly best these days
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> raidghost: what is the issue exactly you experience?
[18:02] <raidghost> lotuspsychje: Inverted colors
[18:02] <raidghost> its like watching a negative on old old photo
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> raidghost: can you pastebin: sudo lshw -C video, please?
[18:03] <raidghost> lotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/PQSHPzvT
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> raidghost: driver seems loaded
[18:05] <raidghost> i know. the first thing i thought of was Heating issue
[18:05] <raidghost> But it happends like 4 to 7 times a day.
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> raidghost: inverted colors start on the login, or at desktop?
[18:05] <raidghost> Desktop
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> raidghost: on gnome3 right?
[18:05] <raidghost> Unity is gnome3 right?
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> no
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> raidghost: did you install unity desktop yourself, or upgraded from 16.04 before?
[18:07] <raidghost> i did a preinstall of 18.04 LTS
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> raidghost: could you pastebin your dmesg please, volunteers will take a look for you
[18:09] <GreyXor> Hi, there is special something to do for an BIOS/MBR installation with 19.10 ? i get grub problem during installation with (entire disk) ?
[18:10] <lordcirth> GreyXor, please provide more details about your problem
[18:11] <GreyXor> lordcirth, thanks, https://snipboard.io/LH3vUf.jpg
[18:12] <raidghost> lotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/Xqr8HjKU
[18:12] <GreyXor> i just run the 19.10 ISO, select "entire disk" in installation. and i have this error
[18:13] <lordcirth> GreyXor, it seems that the disk is formatted GPT, but you have booted in legacy/BIOS mode? Try switching your BIOS settings to EFI-only.
[18:13] <GreyXor> lordcirth, i don't have any EFI parameter in my motherboard settings
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> raidghost: did you update system to latest?
[18:15] <lordcirth> GreyXor, ok. Try switching to another tty, running 'fdisk /dev/sdb', and formatting it MSDOS, then re-run the installer
[18:16] <GreyXor> lordcirth, alright
[18:16] <ioria> GreyXor, how many disks do you have  there ?
[18:17] <raidghost> lotuspsychje: did update system to latest yes.
[18:18] <raidghost> i had a hope that the graphical card was no longer a pain in the latest version. but i was wrong.
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> raidghost: this might be something: i915 0000:00:02.0: vgaarb: changed VGA decodes:
[18:19] <oerheks> connect the cable properly screwed?
[18:20] <raidghost> Orphis: talking to who? me ?
[18:21] <raidghost> Well. With dualboot on the hp proobok it works 100% perfect with Windows 10. So i guess there is nothing wrong with the card.
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> raidghost: do you still have older kernels in your list?
[18:22] <raidghost> Neeh. Removed them.
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> raidghost: and you say you have this same color revert on all ubuntu versions?
[18:23] <raidghost> lotuspsychje: correct
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> raidghost: got a screenshot of that?
[18:24] <raidghost> i will check if i still got the picture
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> raidghost: found a screen corruption like this: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=145965
[18:26] <GreyXor> lordcirth, working :)
[18:27] <raidghost> lotuspsychje: https://imgur.com/a/bA30yaB
[18:27] <raidghost> This was taken by 18.04.3
[18:27] <raidghost> Not just the browser but the whole desktop.
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[18:27] <lordcirth> GreyXor, great! Legacy boot on GPT is an odd configuration that tends to cause issues.
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> raidghost: did you try lubuntu/xubuntu on that machine yet?
[18:29] <GreyXor> lordcirth, outch, another error :/ i show you
[18:29] <GreyXor> lordcirth, https://snipboard.io/wCnHdR.jpg
[18:30] <ioria> raidghost, you can try a custom xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[18:30] <raidghost> ioria: oh? hmmm...
[18:31] <ioria> raidghost, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/79JP9MYJGG/
[18:31] <raidghost> lotuspsychje: i can give it a try on my girlfriends laptop. To see if it works out better
[18:31] <lordcirth> GreyXor, weird. Did you checksum the ISO? During the installer boot, there should be an option to self-checksum
[18:32] <raidghost> ioria: i dont have a xorg.conf file
[18:32] <ioria> raidghost, i know; you have to create one
[18:32] <GreyXor> lordcirth, ok, i will check that thanks for help
[18:33] <raidghost> ioria: and then what more?
[18:33] <ioria> raidghost, reboot
[18:33] <GreyXor> at first he asks me to update the installer. maybe the new installer is broken. i will try the old one
[18:35] <raidghost> ioria: back. how do i check if it now uses the xorg.conf file?
[18:35] <ioria> raidghost, check journalctl or Xorg.0.log , probably in .local/share/xorg now
[18:36] <raidghost> /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session[1413]: (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[18:37] <ioria> raidghost, ok, test it; if i causes problems just remove it
[18:37] <raidghost> Executing command [USER=root] [TTY=unknown] [CWD=/home/raidghost] [COMMAND=/usr/lib/xserver-xorg-video-intel/xf86-video-intel-backlight-helper intel_backlight]
[18:40] <oerheks> California Supreme Court justices have rejected a law that would have required President Trump to disclose his tax returns to appear on state's primary ballot  .. dang https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/california-justices-reject-law-requiring-trump-tax-returns/2019/11/21/1e522b26-0c8c-11ea-8054-289aef6e38a3_story.html
[18:40] <raidghost> will be fun to see how long the thingy keeps it self normal ;)
[18:40] <oerheks> wrong channel
[18:41] <raidghost> thanks ioria for the maybe fix ;)
[18:41] <ioria> raidghost, ok
[18:53] <bofanko> Hi there! Im having problems with connecting my phone (Android, P9 lite Huawei) with Ubuntu (18.04). I can't find any answers online. Nothing happens when I connect the laptop and the phone. I have enabled usb debbuging on the phone. Thank you
[18:53] <UndefinedIsNotAF> Hi
[18:53] <UndefinedIsNotAF> Im looking for a general computer science chat
[18:54] <UndefinedIsNotAF>  /list .*(computer|pc).*  did nothing
[18:54] <oerheks> !alis
[18:57] <oerheks> bofanko, install gsconnect,  https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/05/ubuntu-18-10-gsconnect-extension-by-default
[18:59] <bofanko> oerheks, thats seems like an app, does ubuntu not support it natively? I tought I was just missing some drivers
[19:00] <geekPanther> When I try to start my vsftp daemon it prompts me this error "Failed to start vsftpd.service: Unit vsftpd.service is masked".
[19:00] <geekPanther> Please help me
[19:02] <oerheks> bofanko, natively from 18.10 and up, iirc
[19:03] <oerheks> systemctrl unmask vsftpd.service
[19:03] <oerheks> systemctrl start vsftpd.service
[19:03] <oerheks> and systemctrl enable vsftpd.service # to start at boot automaticly
[19:07] <stemid> hey I have a bit of an issue with a VM. another VM crashed so I added the old VMs disk file to the new one. hoping to mount it. it's there in fdisk -l but lvscan and pvdisplay reveal that PV Name is [unknown] probably because the physical disk file changed names when added to the new VM. so how can I edit the PV Name to match the new disk file /dev/sdb ?
[19:08] <bofanko> oerheks, I can't tell for sure but I think I used to use file manager before for acessing usb files. All I want to do is transfer some photos and music
[19:14] <geekPanther> oerheks : Yeah, I typed that command but still i Cannot start my FTP service. When I do a nmap scan, FTP is not showing on ports
[19:23] <geekPanther> No Yeah, It works Thank you so much oerheks !! :)
[19:33] <oerheks> geekPanther, have fun!
[19:39] <johnjay> does anybody know a simple way to insert accent characters in ubuntu without using unicode codepoints?
[19:40] <johnjay> i can't seem to find a way to get an International US Keyboard
[19:43] <rfm> johnjay, what I did was assign a compose key and use the compose sequences (there is some documentation at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComposeKey )
[19:44] <johnjay> ok i tried that using tweaks but nothing happened when i turned it on
[19:44] <rypervenche> johnjay: I use the International keyboard. You'll likely need to log out and back in after you make the change.
[19:46] <johnjay> rypervenche: i looked everywhere in the menu but saw nothing like that
[19:46] <johnjay> just English (US), English (Canada), etc
[19:46] <johnjay> 18.04
[19:55] <SimonNL> right alt and right alt+shift    ?
[19:56] <SimonNL> áà
[19:56] <SimonNL> à not sure if that was meant
[19:58] <ioria> JonathanD, https://imgur.com/a/i9MK3WU
[19:58] <ioria> johnjay,  https://imgur.com/a/i9MK3WU
[20:01] <rfm> johnjay, I'm on 19.10, but I don't think 18.10 is any different; I went to tweaks>keyboard and mouse clicked on the Disabled button by Compose key, turned on the switch in the dialog that popped up, that allowed me to select Right Alt as compose key.  Then <right alt> followed by ' and e gave me  é as I would expect
[20:12] <SimonNL> https://imgur.com/a/10mB4q8  does this help any ?
[20:12] <bonfire> hi channel
[20:16] <johnjay> rfm: ah you're right. you still have to instll tweaks but it seems to work
[20:16] <johnjay> xmodmap isn't different though... i guess i won't ask how this is working then
[20:21] <rfm> johnjay, It's using the xkb (X keyboard extension), xmodmap is an older interface.  Display its settings with "setxkbmap -query".
[20:24] <Lastent> Hi, I want to add an application to run when the system starts, how can I do this?
[20:25] <leftyfb> Lastent: what have you tried so far?
[20:25] <Lastent> leftyfb, I created a file in systemctl
[20:26] <leftyfb> Lastent: what application? Why do you need it to start on boot?
[20:27] <oerheks> there is startup-applications, after login
[20:28] <Lastent> leftyfb, it is a app that allows me to access USB connections from a webpage
[20:28] <Lastent> \
[20:28] <leftyfb> Lastent: is it a graphical application?
[20:28] <Lastent> leftyfb, no
[20:31] <leftyfb> Lastent: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/html/system_administrators_guide/sect-managing_services_with_systemd-unit_files
[20:32] <leftyfb> Lastent: follow that. Let us know if you have any issues. Particularly, any error messages.
[20:34] <Lastent> thanks leftyfb
[20:34] <ioria> Lastent, btw, what app is that ?
[20:36] <Intelo> How to see which files/ locations have filled my hardisk? I think theres a good utility but I do not remember its name. Its not df
[20:39] <seere> Intelo: ncdu as a terminal frontend to du?
[20:40] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Baobab
[21:01] <wedr> Currently working in Eclipse Java, and I have this Ubuntu Gnome3 issue with the scrollbar. Whenever I wanted to view something down at the very bottom of the view pane, like Variables or Debug, and I need to look at the very last row, the horizontal scrollbar would completely block that last line/row. It's annoying.
[21:01] <wedr> I wanted to tweak the Gnome3 theme on Ubuntu, so the scrollbar doesn't block anything
[21:02] <wedr> Anything I can try to work with? Online resources only shows how to disable scrollbars, which I do not want. I want to keep my scrollbars.
[21:02] <wedr> I do not want scrollbars to be taller/wider than it should be.
[21:03] <wedr> But getting it to overlay on top of something important that I need to read, is just annoying.
[21:03] <wedr> "(
[21:04] <oerheks> gnome-tweak-tool gives some settings, not sure those scrollbars are adjustable..
[21:11] <oerheks> there is 'sloppy' that gives focus without click, so you can use scrollwheel
[21:11] <oerheks> !info gnome-tweak-tool
[21:11] <wedr> I tried the option, oerheks, that didn't work
[21:11] <wedr> the overlaying behavior is still there
[21:12] <deadrom> hi
[21:13] <deadrom> one disk missing in raid5. can't tell which physical drive, home brew server, no backplane/cage, all wired on the fly
[21:13] <deadrom> ideas?
[21:15] <wedr> How do I know which version of Gnome3 am I currently on? Stock Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.   There's   gtk-3.0, gtk-4.0, and gtk-2.0
[21:19] <rud0lf> gnome-shell --version
[21:19] <rud0lf> probably
[21:20] <wedr> Gnome shell 3.28.4    this doesn't explain why I am getting gtk-4.0
[21:26] <lordcirth> deadrom, can you see their serial numbers without removing them?
[21:35] <wedr> Ahhhhhh, thank goodness it's considered an Eclipse bug... https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=519728
[21:36] <wedr> So no more fiddling around with ubuntu's Gnome3 themes
[21:37] <UndefinedIsNotAF> Hi
[21:38] <UndefinedIsNotAF> Some friends of me says that fedora is more mature than Ubuntu. In many aspects. Do you think Fedora is more mature ?
[21:38] <UndefinedIsNotAF> "Fedora doesnt break in updates".
[21:38] <UndefinedIsNotAF> "Ubuntu default makes the computer feels slow"
[21:39] <UndefinedIsNotAF> "AMD drivers make Ubuntu crashes"
[21:39] <UndefinedIsNotAF> is this true?
[21:39] <UndefinedIsNotAF> Do i need to switch from Kubuntu to Fedora ?
[21:39] <UndefinedIsNotAF> please help me, i don't want to change my distro
[21:40] <bracham> Then don't. But if you're wondering, install them side by side and try Fedora.
[21:41] <sarnold> UndefinedIsNotAF: try em all and pick the one you like best
[21:41] <akk> UndefinedIsNotAF: If you like kubuntu and it's working for you, why would you switch just because some other people prefer fedora?
[21:41] <wedr> Just do a dual install  on your system
[21:41] <UndefinedIsNotAF> arg
[21:41] <bracham> But this is an Ubuntu channel, i doubt you'll get anyone here telling you Fedora is better
[21:41] <UndefinedIsNotAF> i cant dual install
[21:41] <UndefinedIsNotAF> i can do virtualbox
[21:42] <UndefinedIsNotAF> Is virtualbox working oin ubuntu?
[21:42] <UndefinedIsNotAF> on*
[21:42] <coz_> UndefinedIsNotAF, I use bith ubuntu Mate and fedora Mate,
[21:42] <coz_> UndefinedIsNotAF, I use Fedora more often
[21:42] <bracham> Why can't you do both?
[21:42] <UndefinedIsNotAF> coz_: and which one is better?
[21:42] <UndefinedIsNotAF> bracham: because UEFI shit in the ass last time i did a dual boot
[21:42] <coz_> UndefinedIsNotAF, depending on your hardware, I use dell, fedora
[21:43] <UndefinedIsNotAF> coz_: and its good stuff?
[21:43] <coz_> UndefinedIsNotAF, ubuntu is a bit more sluggish on same hardware
[21:43] <UndefinedIsNotAF> what is sluggish ?
[21:43] <UndefinedIsNotAF> I dont understand that word
[21:43] <coz_> UndefinedIsNotAF, slower, less respomsive
[21:43] <sarnold> if you test one distro in a virtualized environemtn you ought to test all of them in a virtualized environment
[21:44] <coz_> UndefinedIsNotAF,  but again, you need to test it first
[21:44] <UndefinedIsNotAF> ok so Ubuntu sux on dell hardware, thats it coz_?
[21:44] <UndefinedIsNotAF> coz_: ok im downloading Fedora right now
[21:44] <coz_> UndefinedIsNotAF, no, just on my one dell laptop
[21:44] <UndefinedIsNotAF> Ok, another question
[21:44] <coz_> UndefinedIsNotAF, I take it you are new to linux?
[21:45] <UndefinedIsNotAF> Is there a my little pony theme for ubuntu ? its not for me, its for a friend.
[21:45] <UndefinedIsNotAF> coz_: i start linux 30days ago
[21:45] <coz_> UndefinedIsNotAF,  I couldnt tell you thst, have you googled it?
[21:45] <sarnold> UndefinedIsNotAF: try this one out https://www.ponyos.org/
[21:46] <coz_> UndefinedIsNotAF, in my opinion, ubuntu, and fedora are great for both beginners and advanced users.
[21:46] <deadrom> lordcirth: I bit the bullet and disassemled the machine
[21:47] <coz_> UndefinedIsNotAF, the update command is slightly diffe update for ubuntu  and sudo dnf upgrade for fedorarent, sudo apt
[21:47] <coz_> sorry
[21:47] <coz_> sudo dnf upgrade for fedora
[21:48] <coz_> UndefinedIsNotAF, you should ne able to succed with either distribution
[21:48] <coz_> UndefinedIsNotAF, google for help and go to this and the #fedora channels for help
[21:52] <Intelo> seere, yes. thanks!
[21:56] <deadrom> lordcirth: the labels dont match the sn :D (relabed hitachis from toshiba)
[21:58] <Noboru55> Hello everybody, for some reason i couldn't open a pendrive and my sda2 (backup partition), so i rebooted the system and i got the screen (initramfs)   there i saw a message unxpecte error in sda1
[21:58] <Noboru55> i needed to type there  fsck /dev/sda1
[21:58] <Noboru55> is there someway to see what happened?
[21:58] <Noboru55> logs.. or something, because i just typed Y to all errors in fsck
[22:37] <md_5> anyone noticed general application ui hangs/pauses since updating to 19.10?
[23:07] <Zeitkind> Q: 19.10 and played with the UI settings. Now the window buttons are.. left _and_ right, so left red and right green, yellow .. gone. any hints? :D
[23:16] <lispmacs> hi, I've got a Ubuntu VPS. I was wondering if there was a package that would help me install a 6in4 tunnel with the server itself being the endpoint. I've done 6in4 with LibreCMC router but not on a server