[00:08] <floogy> Hi, I got a Intenso USB pendrive (transcend jetflash chip) and I got "no medium found" errors on it, because I erroneously tried to wrote an ISO on it, where I had to partition/format it by an HP Format Tool and copy the files of the ISO on it and then issue syslinux on it.
[00:11] <BlueBomber> anyone interested in an espeak date command?
[00:12] <BlueBomber> anyone?
[00:12] <epic_null> I didn't see the question
[00:13] <linux_dr_arcules> I'm using bionic on a laptop via a macOS laptop running Barrier... as a result my linux box gets a lot of unintended "Super" key presses... etc... On several occasions I'm seeing the Ubuntu task bar go mostly invisible. All that's left is a mostly alpha band at the bottom of the screen, and the "Show Applications" button in the lower right. Anyone else seeing this? Reported it? Have a good work around?
[00:13] <sarnold> I don't even know what epseak is so I'm unlikely to need to know a date command for it
[00:14] <BlueBomber> epic_null i asked if anyone wanted a date command for espeak
[00:18] <epic_null> Ah.
[00:18] <linux_dr_arcules> Anyone else seeing the taskbar vanish?
[00:18] <floogy> How can I recover the usb pendrive from this "no medium found" error? It's unusable. `sudo sfdisk -l /dev/sdk` -> "No edium found"
[00:19] <Zeitkind> floogy: erase the beginning of it
[00:19] <floogy> dd if=zero of=/dev/zero give the same error
[00:20] <epic_null> So while troubleshooting why my server doesn't have network access after being moved to new (to it, but still an upgrade) hardware, I notice a message saying ifupdown has been replaced by netplan(5). Does my fix need to be changed in response to this message?
[00:20] <floogy> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdk gives the same error
[00:21] <Zeitkind> sounds dodgy then tbh
[00:21] <epic_null> also sorry Blue, I also don't use espeak, so I wouldn't know anything about the features that users want or need
[00:21] <pragmaticenigma> floogy, If the hardware/drive has failed, there is no way to use software to "fix" or access it. You need at least the drive's controller working to access any of the memory cells
[00:21] <Zeitkind> zeroing the first few megs should bring it back
[00:21] <Zeitkind> if not I guess it's just broken
[00:22] <epic_null> Does your partitioning software see it?
[00:23] <floogy> gparted didn't detect it. The irony, I first was able to "reanimate" it by using a transcend tool under windows https://cdn.transcend-info.com/files/special/JetFlash%20Online%20Recovery%20User%20Manual%20_EN_.pdf
[00:23] <sarnold> floogy: this thing sounds frustrating enough that it'd be worth just using a standard USB mass storage device
[00:23] <floogy> But I vcan create a partition on /dev/sdk1 of 6GB
[00:24] <floogy> Hm.
[00:26] <linux_dr_arcules> I'm accidentally hitting the windows key a lot (details above) and seeing the taskbar eventually disappear. Except the "Show Applications" button. Is anyone else seeing this?
[00:28] <floogy> I found this working `dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc1 bs=1M count=6000 conv=fsync` like mentioned here https://de.switch-case.com/54819950
[00:30] <linux_dr_arcules> ok... just discovered the taskbar sometimes returns after a screen lock
[00:32] <floogy> $ sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdk1
[00:32] <floogy> sudo mount -t vfat  /dev/sdk1 /mnt/usbstick/
[00:32] <floogy> ~$ df -h /mnt/usbstick/
[00:32] <floogy> Dateisystem    Größe Benutzt Verf. Verw% Eingehängt auf
[00:32] <floogy> /dev/loop0      5,9G    4,0K  5,9G    1% /mnt/usbstick
[00:33] <sarnold> loop0 ??
[00:33] <epic_null> hmm... never mind, apparently the solution I found is not gonna help for multiple reasons
[00:34] <floogy> https://bpaste.net/raw/Y2DGA
[00:34] <floogy> Yepp. Bizarre
[00:35] <z1_> anyone running 20.04?
[00:37] <sarnold> z1_: there's probably more folks in #ubuntu+1
[00:38] <sarnold> floogy: very weird
[00:38] <sarnold> floogy: your sfdisk command is to partition *inside* a partition
[00:38] <sarnold> oih
[00:38] <sarnold> let me re-read that more carefullly :)
[00:39] <floogy> Yes, but I did issue it that way, due to the error on the device itself
[00:39] <sarnold> floogy: so, try ls -l /dev/sdk*
[00:39] <sarnold> I wonder if /dev/sdk1 is actually a six gigabyte file instead of a block device
[00:40] <Zeitkind> can you just unmount /dev/loop0?
[00:42] <Zeitkind> or losetup -d /dev/loop0 ?
[00:43] <floogy> Yes, that could be. Maybe. I'll look into fstab
[00:44] <floogy> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Nov 22 00:25 sdk -> ../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-1/3-1:1.0/host9/target9:0:0/9:0:0:0/block/sdk
[00:44] <sarnold> and /dev/sdk1?
[00:44] <floogy> [ 6899.182508] scsi 9:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Generic  USB Flash Disk   7.76 PQ: 0 ANSI: 4
[00:44] <floogy> [ 6899.183062] sd 9:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg11 type 0
[00:44] <floogy> [ 6899.183821] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdk] Attached SCSI removable disk
[00:47] <semitones> Hello, I am trying to install ubuntu 19.10 alongside another linux distro
[00:47] <semitones> It had a fatal error when trying to install grub
[00:48] <semitones> and the next window gave three choices: try to install grub to a different hdd/partition, manually install the bootloader, or cancel
[00:48] <semitones> but the window wouldn't respond
[00:48] <semitones> like, I could click OK, but it wouldn't do anything
[00:49] <semitones> finally, I killed ubiquity, and the desktop (GNOME?) restarted
[00:49] <semitones> so, I guess what I'm trying to do is: Find where GRUB is already installed, and update it.
[00:49] <semitones> oh, also, hello everyone :)
[00:50] <epic_null> Okay so I checked lspci, and it's showing a lot of information for a missing driver, so I don't think it's that. It's not showing up in ifconfig though, and the 70-persistent-net.rules file does not exist. Does anyone have any reccomendations of what to look at next?
[00:50] <sarnold> semitones: I can help with the 'and update it' part :)  update-grub
[00:50] <epic_null> Semitones, is the rest of the installation going swimmingly?
[00:50] <sarnold> semitones: but of course you've got to have a mostly-happy /etc/ /boot etc for it to work
[00:51] <semitones> epic_null, no errors until that point :)
[00:51] <epic_null> If it'ss otherwise installed, sarnold i going the way I was gonna go
[00:51] <semitones> So I know grub is already installed somewhere
[00:51] <semitones> because I am installing ubuntu next to OMV
[00:52] <epic_null> just run the update-grub command (can't remember if there's a file that you write to first... that may just be for customs though)
[00:52] <semitones> so do I need to chroot into there, and update grub?
[00:52] <semitones> I'm going to see what happens if I just do update-grub
[00:53] <semitones> wait, is there a way to find out which HDD grub is installed on already?
[00:53] <epic_null> update-grub takes care of all that for you
[00:54] <semitones> so I get /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'.
[00:55] <semitones> I'm not sure what kind of state I left the installation in when I killed ubiquity
[00:56] <floogy> losetup -D doesn't detach the sdk1 loop0 https://bpaste.net/show/YBQQC
[00:56] <epic_null> Wait isn't there a grub rescue utility that you can use if you made a mess of your installation and just want it to work (albiet not nessesarily in a pretty way)? I'm pretty sure I've had to use it to get my laptop not booting to windows
[00:57] <semitones> epic_null, yeah that's super grub disk. I already tried it and it hung
[00:58] <semitones> I think I have to chroot into wherever grub is...
[00:58] <Zeitkind> normally, command are case sensitive on Unix, so -d should be used. Not sure about losetup though
[00:58] <Zeitkind> -d = --detach
[00:59] <Zeitkind> (AFAIR)
[01:00] <epic_null> I don't think Grub works like the rest of Linux - it's a boot loader, not an operating system
[01:01] <floogy> LOSETUP(8)   Detach all associated loop devices: losetup -D
[01:06] <epic_null> You know what... looking at the contents of my drive (mostly early-dev files), I'm thinking it may be easier to just reinstall this and hope that it's an error related to hardware/configuration incompatibility
[01:08] <semitones> I ran grub-install from the live cd and it exited no problem... I just don't know if it knows about both linux partitions... so I guess I will try to chroot into it and update-grub now
[01:09] <semitones> ugh now I get the error /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[01:09] <semitones> this is why I don't understand chroot
[01:09]  * BlueBomber ooof
[01:13] <semitones> aha
[01:13] <semitones> I didn't understand how to bind the virtual directories or what not and I have copy-pasta'd enough
[01:13] <semitones> but the thing that I don't understand
[01:13] <semitones> is when update grub in the chroot runs
[01:14] <semitones> it doesn't find the linux image in the other partition
[01:14] <floogy> loop0 is attached to the usb partition? https://bpaste.net/show/IZE4Y
[01:18] <semitones> ok... and now I decided to chroot into my recently installed ubuntu partition
[01:18] <semitones> and update-grub finds both oses, great
[01:19] <semitones> \question for you sarnold
[01:19] <semitones> after I update-grub do I need to do anhthing else
[01:19] <semitones> or is that the one
[01:19] <sarnold> that should do it
[01:19] <semitones> word
[01:19] <semitones> here it goes!
[01:19] <sarnold> good luck :)
[01:19] <semitones> thanks
[01:25] <semitones> ok so the old grub is still what booted up
[01:25] <semitones> I think I have to make sure to grub-install when I'm in the chrooted environment, and then update-grub
[01:25] <sarnold> *which* grub is selected might be a feature of your bios
[01:25] <sarnold> if you've got several installed anyweay
[01:26] <semitones> yeah I wish I knew where this other one was installed
[01:26] <semitones> if it's on sda's MBR
[01:26] <semitones> or sdc's MBR
[01:26] <semitones> I've been using BIOS to try booting specifically from sda, and it couldn't
[01:26] <semitones> it said something like invalid systems disk
[01:27] <semitones> but then it booted up fine
[01:27] <semitones> so I don't know if it tried sdb
[01:27] <semitones> or what
[01:27] <semitones> I guess more experimentation is needed
[01:28] <sarnold> back when I did dual booting things I always yanked one drive and inserted the other..
[01:29] <semitones> lol true
[01:31] <aleksandrdvorkin> hi
[01:32] <sarnold> hey aleksandrdvorkin
[01:33] <aleksandrdvorkin> i have a problem when trying to login to my dns address (the free ip address) i get a modem configuration page open when i try to access the Basic Configuration of my modem it wont accept the password and username DO I NEED TO RESET THE MODEM and use default username and password?
[01:34]  * BlueBomber is curious who in here is still in school
[01:36] <sarnold> aleksandrdvorkin: whta does it mean to "login to my dns address"?
[01:37] <aleksandrdvorkin> just trying to open the site address that i registered
[01:37] <semitones> who it works!
[01:38] <sarnold> what server do you expect to have on that IP address? is that IP address your modem's external address?
[01:38] <BlueBomber> #School_Games_and_code
[01:38] <semitones> thanks for joining the adventure sarnold and epic_null
[01:38] <aleksandrdvorkin> yes
[01:46] <bofanko> Can anyone help with connecting my phone to ubuntu? I want to acess phone's storage
[01:47] <Zeitkind> plug in?
[01:47] <bofanko> Nothing happens when I connect it and Usb debbuging is turned on
[01:47] <aleksandrdvorkin> is it iphone?
[01:47] <bofanko> Yes, over the cable
[01:47] <Zeitkind> set phone connect as storage?
[01:47] <bofanko> Huawei P9Lite
[01:47] <bofanko> No option pops on the phone
[01:47] <Zeitkind> must
[01:48] <Zeitkind> (if Android)
[01:48] <bofanko> Im telling you man, fresh install
[01:48] <Zeitkind> change cable
[01:48] <Zeitkind> some are power only
[01:49] <sarnold> bofanko: the other day another user in here was using jmtpfs and mtp-tools to do phone over a wire things; of course he was in here because his USB ports no longer worked after doing so..
[01:49] <sarnold> bofanko: adb is another popular way to do phone things with your computer
[01:49] <Zeitkind> if the phone says nothing, thre is no usb connection and adb won't work too
[01:50] <sarnold> don' tyou have to go tap that phone version informatoin thing seven times to get into dev mode before adb will work?
[01:50] <bofanko> Zeitkind, you were right. You learn something new every day. Guess that was a power only cable.
[01:50] <Zeitkind> or a broken one.. ^^
[01:51] <sarnold> hehe
[01:51] <bofanko> Yeah but the charge time is the same so I doubt it
[01:51] <bofanko> And it is new
[01:51] <sarnold> if it's broken then it's bes tto cut an end off before discarding it; if it's power-only then I hope it's bright orange :)
[01:52] <bofanko> sarnold, sorry what do you mean by bright orange?
[01:53] <sarnold> bofanko: something like this :) https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51DKKHV8qlL._SX425_.jpg
[01:53] <aleksandrdvorkin> well i connect my iphone and a window with the iphone contents pops up on mY macbook but nothing in Ubuntu that runs withing the VBox
[01:53] <Zeitkind> vbox need addons to see usb
[01:54] <aleksandrdvorkin> which is?
[01:54] <aleksandrdvorkin> :)
[01:55] <bofanko> sarnold, I'll cut the cable then lol
[01:55] <Zeitkind> "VirtualBox 6.0.14 Oracle VM VirtualBox Extension Pack"
[01:55] <Zeitkind> https://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/6.0.14/Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-6.0.14.vbox-extpack
[01:56] <Zeitkind> not free!
[01:56] <Zeitkind> no open source
[01:56] <Zeitkind> but free for personla use
[01:56] <aleksandrdvorkin> Zeitkind i have the extension pack installed
[01:56] <Zeitkind> then check if your VM actually gets access to the usb device
[01:56] <aleksandrdvorkin> oh i see
[01:56] <aleksandrdvorkin> it
[01:57] <aleksandrdvorkin> its under devices says IPHONE
[01:57] <aleksandrdvorkin> Apple Inc Iphone
[01:57] <aleksandrdvorkin> Failed to attach it though
[01:57] <Zeitkind> wait.. "iPhone"?
[01:57] <sarnold> is your hypervisor set to pass through that device and prevent the host os from using it?
[01:58] <aleksandrdvorkin> sarnold what is hypervisor
[01:58] <Zeitkind> iPhones do not work with Linux
[01:58] <Zeitkind> it's Apple, stupid!
[01:59] <Zeitkind> get FileApp or similar and use network
[01:59] <aleksandrdvorkin> but its listed under the Devices
[01:59] <aleksandrdvorkin> in USB
[02:00] <Zeitkind> yes, but it does not work as a storage device
[02:00] <Zeitkind> (which Apple tries to prevent for years now)
[02:00] <Zeitkind> so use iTunes, use Network or get a better phone (any Android will work...)
[02:01] <aleksandrdvorkin> i use icloud download
[02:02] <Zeitkind> my last iPhone was a 4, now works as an alarm clock for my kids
[02:03] <sarnold> aleksandrdvorkin: vbox or qemu or xen or whatever
[02:05] <Zeitkind> sarnold: iPhones do not work as a storage device, they just show up as.. useless iPhones on the usb bus
[02:05] <Zeitkind> but they do work a camera storage
[02:05] <Zeitkind> as
[02:05] <Zeitkind> so you can get photos off, but nothing else
[02:05] <aleksandrdvorkin> so the photos can be accessed?
[02:06] <Zeitkind> they should AFAIR, but Apple might have changed that too
[02:06] <Zeitkind> long ago..
[02:08] <aleksandrdvorkin> and under the Devices Network i see en5:Iphone USB2
[02:08] <Zeitkind> modem
[02:08] <Zeitkind> usb networking
[02:08] <aleksandrdvorkin> so i can connect through my iphone to internet from Ubuntu in Vbox?
[02:09] <Zeitkind> nowadays quite.. useless
[02:10] <aleksandrdvorkin> another question if my Virtual box Network set to Bridged adapter could that cause a problem connection to my modem like the modem wont accept the password for the admin
[02:10] <Zeitkind> it is more or less the same as tethering by wifi or bluetooth
[02:12] <Zeitkind> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/IPhone_tethering
[02:19] <ToeSnacks> Doesn’t ZFS Boot on Ubuntu 19.10 support any kind of full disk encryption?
[02:24] <sarnold> ToeSnacks: I'm not sure what status it's at now, but it looks like fde may come later https://github.com/orgs/ubuntu/projects/1#card-27804217
[02:25] <ToeSnacks> sarnold: thank you.
[02:25] <sarnold> ToeSnacks: I followed rlaager's ubuntu zfs guide for 18.04 (but on 19.04) and things mostly seem to work -- it was a bit of a pain but at least it was well-documented :)
[02:25] <sarnold> ToeSnacks: I haven't been brave enough to try an upgrade yet and see if it still works with 19.10..
[02:26] <ToeSnacks> Does the guide outline how to set up encryption?
[02:26] <sarnold> yes
[02:26] <sarnold> https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Ubuntu-18.04-Root-on-ZFS
[02:26] <ToeSnacks> Great thank you again.
[02:32] <flog>  
[02:34] <Zeitkind> still have my split buttons.. https://imgur.com/BAPek6V
[02:34] <Zeitkind> anyone a hint? ^^
[02:37] <flog> Zeitkind: split?
[02:37] <Zeitkind> yeah, neither right nor left, one is left, one is right, yellow.. gone
[02:37] <flog> Guess thats due to the theme you are using.
[02:37] <flog> Checkde gnome-tweaks?
[02:37] <Zeitkind> and changing with tweak tools doesn't change anything
[02:38] <flog> Is it the same with all programs?
[02:38] <Zeitkind> cam select right or left, doesn't matter
[02:38] <flog> Might require you to log out and back in again. Not sure.
[02:38] <Zeitkind> even reset with dconf reset / and rebooted - stays the same
[02:39] <flog> No idea sorry,. Im not using the gnome DE myself.
[02:39] <Zeitkind> and yes, all programs have split buttons
[02:39] <rockwood94> how can i know my server ip?
[02:39] <Zeitkind> (like Libreoffice)
[02:40] <rockwood94> any command for it?
[02:40] <Zeitkind> whatismyip.com or simular?
[02:40] <Zeitkind> there should be some outside
[02:40] <rockwood94> i am cli
[02:40] <Zeitkind> hmm..
[02:40] <rockwood94> i am using ubuntu 19.10 with cli
[02:40] <rockwood94> on Virtualbox
[02:40] <flog> rockwood94: nmcli device show <your nic>
[02:42] <Zeitkind> try dig +short myip.opendns.com @resolver1.opendns.com.
[02:42] <epic_null> ipaddr will give you the IP address the server thinks it has
[02:42] <epic_null> also ifconfig
[02:42] <flog> epic_null:does even ifconfig exist anymore?
[02:42] <epic_null> but you may want to consult virtualbox for the IP address that you can actually reach it on
[02:42] <Zeitkind> yes, but optional install
[02:42] <epic_null> no ifconfig? strange...
[02:43] <epic_null> ipaddr may still work
[02:43] <Zeitkind> nettools or similar
[02:43] <flog>  I dont have either on my install.
[02:43] <flog> nmcli provides the same info though.
[02:44] <Zeitkind> apt-get install net-tools will give you ifconfig
[02:45] <Zeitkind> but use ip instead
[02:45] <Zeitkind> liek ip addr show
[02:46] <flog> Zeitkind: i personally find nmcli device show <devicename> easier to read.
[02:46] <Zeitkind> ip output is similar to ifconfig - which I'm used to for ages.. ^^
[02:47] <flog> beauty of open soarse, 10 programs do the same thing :)
[02:48] <Zeitkind> I still use ifconfig if I look for packet losses and such though
[02:48] <rockwood94> ifconfig isn't installed in
[02:48] <Zeitkind> apt-get install net-tools
[02:48] <rockwood94> which is better?
[02:48] <flog> rockwood94: or use: ip addr show
[02:49] <sarnold> ifconfig can't do everything that ip can do
[02:49] <sarnold> but I haven't yet found as convenient a way to report dropped packets etc as ifconfig :(
[02:49] <sarnold> (if anyone knows wqhat I'm overlooking that'd be nice to hear what it is :)
[02:49] <Zeitkind> well, ifconfig gives a nice overview about RX/TX errors
[02:50] <Zeitkind> not sure what's the ip command for this is
[02:51] <rockwood94> how to log use pastebin for show out of command?
[02:51] <Zeitkind> ?
[02:51] <flog> netcat it to termbin?
[02:52] <rockwood94> means [command + upload]
[02:52] <rockwood94> i forget that command
[02:53] <rockwood94> pastebinit
[02:54] <flog> rockwood94: https://termbin.com/ you could use this. or just manually select copy and paste into your prefered online paste website.
[02:54] <Zeitkind> echo 'alias tb="nc termbin.com 9999"' >> .bashrc
[02:54] <IkoIKo> Bash.org Getting a random quote from bash.org, Please wait..
[02:54] <IkoIKo> Bash.org Socket in use, Please wait..
[02:54] <IkoIKo> Bash.org - #155 Quote: <Eggo> invent a new kind of tolet paper, reusible or edible
[02:55] <Zeitkind> then tail -f interesting.log | tb
[02:55] <lotuspsychje> IkoIKo: not here please
[02:55] <Zeitkind> or whatever you like
[02:56] <flog> lotuspsychje: bot i guess or someone with a script that triggers on the bourne again shell acronym.
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> oh ill report, tnx
[02:56] <flog> bash
[02:56] <sarnold> yeah it's a bot
[02:57] <sarnold> this isn't the first time it's happened
[02:57] <sarnold> it's pretty silly to trigger on the trigger word anywhere in the line
[02:57] <rockwood94> amazing its having two ips
[02:57] <Zeitkind> test for .bashrc ...
[02:57] <IkoIKo> Bash.org Getting a random quote from bash.org, Please wait..
[02:57] <IkoIKo> Bash.org Socket in use, Please wait..
[02:57] <IkoIKo> Bash.org - #144 Quote: <Troy1> "Hey baby, what channels do you hang out in?"
[02:57] <Zeitkind> yup
[02:57] <flog> triggers on dotbash
[02:57] <rockwood94> 127.0.0.1 and 10.0.2.15
[02:57] <rockwood94> anyway thanks
[02:58] <Zeitkind> then try hacking the 127.0.0.1!
[02:58] <flog> rockwood94: you need to read up on 127.0.0.1.
[02:58] <Zeitkind> and 10.x.y.z is a private IP anyway
[03:00] <rockwood94> yes
[03:00] <rockwood94> but i didn't defined it and i am surprised
[03:00] <rockwood94> how it get ti?
[03:00] <Zeitkind> dhcp?
[03:01] <rockwood94> yes
[03:01] <rockwood94> but i didn't defined the series too
[03:02] <flog> so virtual box did when you set up virtualbox.
[03:03] <Zeitkind> try dhclient -d -nw eth0
[03:04] <flog> Zeitkind: ethX isnt used anymore?
[03:04] <Zeitkind> or whatever it is named
[03:04] <Zeitkind> I still use them (and define them :P)
[03:04] <flog> So do i :)
[03:04] <Zeitkind> he should know his interface by ifconfig -a
[03:05] <Zeitkind> I do like the ipconfig command on OS X
[03:05] <Zeitkind> quite handy
[03:06] <Zeitkind> if you're on a Mac, try ipconfig getpacket en0 to get your DHCP server info
[03:07] <rockwood94> i am on ubuntu
[03:08] <flog> Is your host ubuntu too?
[03:19] <rockwood94> on virtual box ubuntu 19.10 server, flog yes
[03:25] <oxek> oerheks: solved my issue, gnome-keyring package was not installed
[03:26] <rockwood94> i am getting error when i going to chk status of apache
[03:27] <rockwood94> AH00558
[04:10] <Rockwood> Hmm. We’re having trouble finding that site.We can’t connect to the server at www.cyberiaaxis.com.i am facing this issueat time establishment of domain nameon my virtual machine's ubuntu 19.10
[04:11] <sarnold> what error do you get?
[04:12] <Rockwood> actually i am trying to use own domain name instead of local host
[04:12] <sarnold> qualys can't resolve it https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=www.cyberiaaxis.com
[04:12] <Rockwood> i am using Vbox on my local machine
[04:13] <sarnold> dnsviz demonstrates that there are nsec3 records published that say the domain doesn't exist https://dnsviz.net/d/www.cyberiaaxis.com/dnssec/
[04:13] <Rockwood> okay now?
[04:13] <Rockwood> what should be now?
[04:14] <explore> may i ask a weird question? is there such thing as a super resource-thrifty virtual machine? just for tiny things like Rasbery Pi emulation?
[04:14] <sarnold> qualys appears to have the negative entries cached
[04:14] <explore> or is KVM already very memory and resource thrifty?
[04:14] <tsarompy> hey #ubuntu <3
[04:14] <tsarompy> if anyone has a minute, could you help me with a dependency issue? i need libpng12-dev package for eoan but it doesnt exist
[04:14] <explore> i have never ran KVM on my Ubuntu Server before, may I ask what's the typical size like?
[04:15] <sarnold> tsarompy: that's not packaged for ubuntu any more; why do you need it? is no newer version of whataever you're installing not available?
[04:15] <tsarompy> i need it to build snes9x
[04:15] <tsarompy> specifically snes9x-gtk
[04:15] <sarnold> explore: I never really paid too much attention, but the guest OS will use the majority of qemu's memory
[04:16] <tsarompy> there are no binaries for snes9x-gtk for ubuntu anymore since it was pulled from debian by a troll >:|
[04:17] <sarnold> tsarompy: could you try with a newer libpng?
[04:17] <sarnold> tsarompy: I have no idea who this guy is, or if he should be trusted with root on your computer, but he's made libpng12 available for eoan https://launchpad.net/~jonathonf/+archive/ubuntu/libpng12/+packages
[04:18] <tsarompy> cool, thank you!
[04:18] <tsarompy> i was tempted to just grab the deb from debian sid but i will take a look at that
[04:19] <tsarompy> i do see a newer version of libpng-dev but the source specifically wants libpng12 to compile soooOOoOoOo
[04:19] <tsarompy> again, thanks. this has been bothering me for days
[04:19] <tsarompy> <3
[04:25] <Rockwood> how to uninstall apache with all setting? from ubuntu 19.10
[04:26] <tsarompy> you want to uninstall apache and remove the settings?
[04:26] <tsarompy> Rockwood: this should help you -> http://xmodulo.com/how-to-uninstall-and-remove-apache2-on-ubuntu-debian.html
[04:28] <Rockwood> yes tsarompy
[04:29] <tsarompy> Rockwood: that link has all the instructions you'll need :D
[04:29] <tsarompy> are you looking for a replacement?
[04:30] <Rockwood> by mistake wrong setting
[04:30] <Rockwood> remove and reinstall
[04:31] <tsarompy> okay. i've used apache quite a bit. if you need help, feel free to private message me if you have trouble
[04:32]  * Rockwood eating burgers :)
[04:37] <Rockwood> ty office time :)  cya sooner
[04:43] <lalitmee> Hey Guys, why my font rendering is bad in Ubuntu 18.04. https://i.imgur.com/7KElynN.png
[04:44] <lalitmee> I have tried font hinting and antilising etc
[04:44] <lalitmee> but no luck
[04:44] <lalitmee> this font is default Monaco font. If I zoom in once, it looks find but another zoom in it will look bad.
[04:48] <flog> Screenshot look ok to me. :/
[04:48] <tsarompy> is it just in your browser?
[04:48] <tsarompy> why not change the default monospaced font
[04:48] <tsarompy> ubuntu mono looks nice :P
[04:49] <tsarompy> i think monaco is just ugly period
[04:49] <tsarompy> lalitmee: what browser are you using?
[04:50] <lalitmee> tsarompy: actually yeah you can say it is in the browser. I have tried using chrome, chromium
[04:50] <lalitmee> tsarompy: I am also facing this issue in the application which are build using electron. Like Slack
[04:50] <tsarompy> have you edited $HOME/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini to set smoothing or what
[04:51] <lalitmee> tsarompy: actually no. I don't know what to do for that smoothing
[04:51] <lalitmee> If you can guide me
[04:51] <tsarompy> ill PM you so we dont fill up the chat okay?
[04:51] <lalitmee> otherwise I have tried every possible solution on the internet
[04:51] <lalitmee> yeah
[04:52] <tsarompy> okay i sent you part of my .Xresources file
[04:52] <tsarompy> that oughta fix it, if not we can try something else
[04:55] <tsarompy> lalitmee: heres my .Xresources file if it will help you
[04:55] <tsarompy> https://pastebin.com/LugM9TDR
[04:57] <tsarompy> lalitmee: im a kubuntu user personally but in your appearance settings in gnome it should say something about font smoothing/hinting
[04:58] <tsarompy> if youre not sure of the differences, this image may help
[04:58] <tsarompy> https://winterdom.com/weblog/content/binary/WindowsLiveWriter/ImprovingFontRenderinginUbuntu_136D4/linux-gnome-settings_3.png
[05:00] <tsarompy> also lalitmee, this reddit thread may be of some help to you -> https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/8gqrjn/ubuntu_1804_font_rendering_how_to_make_fonts_look/
[05:15] <lalitmee> tsarompy: Its not fixed still. It is the same as it was
[05:23] <tsarompy> damn
[05:23] <tsarompy> okay
[05:23] <tsarompy> lalitmee: have you checked your font settings in your gnome appearance settings?
[05:23] <tsarompy> also, did you run 'xrdb -merge $HOME/.Xresources' after adding those changes to your .Xresources file?
[05:27] <lalitmee> tsarompy: oh no.. I didn't run that
[05:27] <lalitmee> I will run now
[05:28] <YJ12345> How to set python3.8 as default instead of 2.7 ? (apart from the alias option)
[05:28] <lalitmee> I have check my font settings. its default whatever it comes with. I didn't change it.
[05:33] <lalitmee> tsarompy: Hey I tried that reddit solution too and I run that command too. I have logged out and logged in. I think I will reboot once more.
[05:34] <tsarompy> it wont make a difference lalitmee
[05:35] <tsarompy> lalitmee: try installing lxappearance and specifying the font smoothing/hinting that you'd like
[05:35] <lalitmee> tsarompy: I thought it will because in that solution it is written that restart x-server of reboot. I didn't do either one of theme
[05:41] <dps> im sorry if you guys keep getting messages that say i keep joining abd leaving. its this Polari IRC im using. i have it set to log me in automatically when i open Polari, and every time that my screen turn off it seems to for some reason think that im closing the program. even though i have it set to run in the background. again, my apologies
[05:44] <flog> dps: your computer probably sleeps and thus turns off the network card.
[07:06] <explore> hey guys i haven't used linux in a long while, and it's my first try with Ubuntu Server, and it's my first time using LVM
[07:06] <explore> is it normal that my / drive is only 4GB?
[07:06] <explore> sorry / partition
[07:08] <explore> okay i need to read about LVM that's gonna help https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/40702/how-to-manage-and-use-lvm-logical-volume-management-in-ubuntu/
[07:11] <explore> guys when you install a virgin ubuntu server with lvm, it doesn't use up all the hard drive space and assign it to /?
[07:12] <explore> i mean.. not literally all.. just all the space aside from rescue and boot right?
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> explore: come join to #ubuntu-server if you want
[08:18] <calIn-> #u.s. -
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[08:31] <Tuor> Hi, the description of the KeePassX Package has a typo (I think):  In contrast to KeePassXC (package keepassxc), the development pace of KeePassX has slowed down. It has less features, and uses an outdated version of the Qt widget. If you do not know whether you should install keepassx or keepassxc, install keepassx instead!
[08:31] <Tuor> The second last word should be Keepassxc not Keepassx...
[08:36] <IaMnEwHeRe> Tuor, I think it is best to open a ticket in the corresponding bugtracker
[08:57] <pipegeek> Question: is it possible that pip is broken for python 3.6 on ubuntu disco?
[08:58] <pipegeek> it looks like it depends ultimately on python-apt, which seems to only ship with its native components built for python 3.7, even though they're installed in /usr/lib/python3
[08:58] <IaMnEwHeRe> pipegeek, why use pip? use anaconda and their environments :D
[08:58] <IaMnEwHeRe> on the distro that is
[08:58] <Ben64> well since disco comes with python3.7.... i'd say 3.6 stuff would be likely to not work
[08:58] <pipegeek> :P because I don't want to download and set up anaconda to see if something works in python 3.6 since it's available in the system :P
[08:59] <pipegeek> .... oh lord, no, I thought python 3.6 was also shipped in disco but it's just leftover from before the upgrade
[08:59] <pipegeek> never mind... haha
[09:00] <pipegeek> that said: aren't things installed in /usr/lib/python3 supposed to be non-minor-version-specific?
[09:01] <IaMnEwHeRe> pipegeek, don't know the details but since Python3.6is it's own thing and so is Python3.7 etc. the minor-upgrades might not be compatible in the first place, even on an internal interface level
[09:01] <pipegeek> I can always just run a docker container.  It was just a surprise
[09:01] <Rockwood> hello
[09:02] <pipegeek> welcome Rockwood
[09:02] <Rockwood> i am facing a issue on my ubuntu
[09:02] <Rockwood> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7gGxJ7Ygd6/
[09:02] <Rockwood> where its missing
[09:03] <vlt> Tuor: While you're at it: "...*fewer features"?
[09:03] <Rockwood> how chk my active site in ubuntu?
[09:03] <Rockwood> i am using apache as you can see
[09:03] <IaMnEwHeRe> Rockwood what exactly is your problem?
[09:04] <IaMnEwHeRe> do you want to see what your server serves?
[09:04] <Rockwood> no
[09:04] <Rockwood> i wanna chk my active/enable site
[09:04] <Rockwood> i am using apache2
[09:06] <IaMnEwHeRe> Rockwookd ls /etc/apach2/sites-enabled/
[09:08] <IaMnEwHeRe> Rockwood sry for missping, see above
[09:12] <Rockwood> cyberia@yberiaaxis:/var/www$ ls /etc/apach2/sites-enabled
[09:12] <Rockwood> ls: cannot access '/etc/apach2/sites-enabled': No such file or directory
[09:15] <flog> Rockwood: apache2 not apach2
[09:16] <Tuor> I don't know the corresponding bugtracker is, Ubuntu or is it comming from debian?
[09:16] <Tuor> vlt: If you say so, I'm not good at languages (even I speak 3 more or less).
[09:36] <Tuor> vlt: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/keepassx/+bug/1853576
[09:36] <Tuor> I hope this is the right place.
[09:44] <dan01> Is it a good idea to use ZFS for Ubuntu 19.04 on a SSD?
[09:45] <dan01> 19.10, sorry
[09:47] <oxek> which terminal emulator can safely handle acidental cat of a binary file?
[09:47] <oxek> gnome-terminal gets messed up
[09:48] <Ben64> oxek: none
[09:49] <oxek> Ben64: I know mosh manages to handle it fine, but that is not a local terminal emulator
[09:49] <oxek> so surely some terminal emulator can do it too
[09:50] <Ben64> don't cat binary files, or use 'reset' if you do
[09:50] <oxek> how do I reset?
[09:50] <Ben64> 'reset'
[09:51] <oxek> my terminal emulator gets so messed up that even typing text types weird characters, so the command 'reset' will not be typed
[09:51] <Ben64> it will still do it
[09:51] <oxek> I tried and I get an output of:
[09:53] <oxek> -bash: �b�E���: command not found
[09:53] <oxek> that's when I type reset
[09:54] <Ben64> hit ctrl+c a couple times to make sure nothing is there first
[09:56] <oxek> hmm, sometimes that works, sometimes not
[09:56] <oxek> in any case, what's a good terminal emulator to use then? I am unhappy with gnome-terminal
[09:58] <Ben64> konsole, lxterminal, guake, terminator, xterm
[09:59] <oxek> thanks, I'll try them out
[10:01] <chieta> how to make vpn connected from the booting?
[10:08] <vlt> chieta: `systemctl enable openvpn@your_conf` should do it.
[10:10] <chieta> where is the config,  vlt
[10:10] <chieta> i usually using nmcli conn up vpn_conf
[10:10] <chieta> the vpn_conf located on /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
[10:11] <vlt> I use OpenVPN. Its config is in /etc/openvpn/.
[10:12] <chieta> here i want to connect to vpn server
[10:12] <chieta> everytime mybox up... i want to make sure that the box connected to the vpn server
[10:31] <angryant> I'm having trouble running two OpenVPN tunnels on my 18.04 desktop. The use case is one primary tunnel for all traffic and one making traffic to an office network available. I have been scouring the web for a couple of weeks and have yet to find anything resembling a good guide on use cases like that. Any pointers or advice would be highly appreciated :)
[10:32] <angryant> The primary tunnel is tied to my Ethernet connection (the connection auto-starting the tunnel) and is set to route all traffic. The other I manually connect when necessary and is configured to not route all traffic.
[10:33] <angryant> My problem is that when one tunnel is active, the other fails to connect.
[10:34] <angryant> Setting different custom gateway ports and virtual device names have had no effect.
[10:52] <Pricey> angryant: What client are you using?
[10:58] <resaldis> hi
[11:25] <explore> hey i have a newbie question
[11:26] <explore> is it normal that during the Ubuntu Server installation, with a 500Gb HDD, that the LV for / is a mere 4GB?
[11:26] <explore> what if i have a lot of files in my /home/username/? also when i use KVM i need to store some sizable VMs in /var/
[11:26] <EriC^> explore: if nobody knows here might try in #ubuntu-server
[11:27] <explore> oh i didn't know there's that channel my bad
[11:27] <explore> i'll ask there thanks EriC^
[11:27] <EriC^> np
[11:32] <explore> thank goodness they explained this in um.. stackoverflow it wasn't unique to me at all
[11:32] <explore> thanks a bunch guys *hugs*
[11:52] <aotz> hello, guys.  What keys should i press together to maximize a window in (Ubuntu's default) compiz?
[11:53] <EriC^> aotz: you could do ctrl+super + up arrow
[11:54] <EriC^> also there's the alt+space then x
[11:54]  * aotz is going to check that
[11:54] <EriC^> alt+space+n to minimize
[11:54] <EriC^> i personally use that a ton
[11:54] <aotz> oh, thank you a lot, EriC^
[11:55] <EriC^> aotz: no problem
[11:55] <aotz> will never forget those shortcuts
[11:59] <aotz> may i ask another question... in Ubuntu when there is just empty desktop on the screen (with no windows open), it should be possible to press something and display the screen that is essentially a cheatsheet of unity and compiz keyboard shortcuts
[11:59] <aotz> what exactly should be pressed to display that?
[11:59] <EriC^> aotz: hold super key
[11:59] <aotz> ok, i'll try...
[11:59] <EriC^> it works anywhere btw
[12:04] <aotz> i'm sorry, i have unity 7.4.5+16.04.20180221-0ubuntu1 and when i just hold the super key, after a second darkish squares with numbers appear on the icons in the Launcher (and letter t appears on the trash can icon).
[12:05] <aotz> looks like it is intended to be used like that: you hold the super key, nubers appear, then you press the number, and this is equivalent to a click on that icon
[12:05] <explore> hey guys is it possible to do something like REadyBoost on LInux? like a file system cache?
[12:05] <explore> basically most frequently read files would always be cached in the usb key
[12:05] <explore> (aside from being cahed in the free main memory that i)
[12:06] <rory> if you have an SSD, wouldn't a USB key be slower than normal filesystem access anyway?
[12:07] <explore> that's the thing, it's not an SSD
[12:07] <explore> slow seagate
[12:08] <EriC^> aotz: ah i have the same, but also i get a screen that gives windows related shortcuts and stuf
[12:08] <EriC^> im on 16.04 though
[12:08] <aotz> i'm on 16.04.4 LTS
[12:09] <EriC^> ah same
[12:09] <aotz> ok. i'll try to find that somewhere in installed help pages
[12:10] <aotz> EriC^: thanks a lot for telling about alt-space and ctrl-super-arrows
[12:10] <aotz> bye
[12:10] <explore> wikipedia talks about something called dm-cache, bcache, and flashcache
[12:12] <explore> oh i see lvmcache is the modern name for dm-cache
[12:20] <angryant_> Pricey: network-manager-openvpn
[12:24] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:32] <Malgorath> Anyone able to help me understand why Ubuntu wont see my raid controller properly? I have C600/X79 Intell SATA Raid Controller and I have 2 8TB drives in Raid 0 but all I see is 2TB on the device
[12:53] <JuJUBee> For some reason, logging in recently started taking a long time, like 7 minutes.  What should I be looking for?
[12:59] <JuJUBee> Even a sudo apt update takes a long time to start after I enter my password.
[13:02] <ioria> JuJUBee, login problems might come from shell extensions or Startup App; about sudo , no idea, i suggest to check 'top'  and 'free -m'
[13:03] <raub> I wonder if it is going through a long list of authentication systems before finding user and password.
[13:04] <raub> And some of those systems are not implemented and it does not care
[13:04] <JuJUBee> ioria, thanks, baloo_file_extractor is using 100% CPU  I don't even know what that is.
[13:05] <ioria> kde thing, i guess
[13:05] <ioria> JuJUBee, have you installed Plasma ?
[13:05] <JuJUBee> Yes, I used to use kde, now mostly xfce
[13:06] <ioria> JuJUBee, cd /etc/xdg/autostart and backup all kde files.desktop
[13:08] <JuJUBee> ioria, only one seems to be kdeconnectd.desktop, nothing else has kde in the name
[13:08] <JuJUBee> ah, found 3 more
[13:08] <ioria> JuJUBee, don't you have a baloo*. desktop files ?
[13:09] <JuJUBee> yes, How do I know what is for kde then?
[13:10] <ioria> JuJUBee, that's not easy to know (unless you check apt-cache depends plasma or kubuntu-desktop); what de are you on atm ?
[13:10] <JuJUBee> xfce
[13:11] <ioria> JuJUBee, paste    ls  /etc/xdg/autostart  | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:12] <JuJUBee> https://termbin.com/c6vu
[13:13] <ioria> JuJUBee, you have 4 de ?
[13:13] <ioria> maybe 5
[13:14] <JuJUBee> yes, I was testing them out to see what I like.  Never removed them
[13:14] <ioria> JuJUBee, sy to tell, but it's a recipe for troubles
[13:15] <JuJUBee> should I just remove the ones I don't use?  I have had them all installed for years...
[13:15] <JuJUBee> Never experienced this kind of behavior
[13:16] <ioria> JuJUBee, i can recognize : krunner, klipper, baloo_file.desktop, etc. etc.
[13:16] <JuJUBee> If I remove kubuntu-desktop, will that remove them?
[13:16] <JuJUBee> Haven't used kde in over a year
[13:16] <ioria> JuJUBee, pam_kwallet_init.desktop, plasmashell.desktop
[13:17] <ioria> JuJUBee, with autoremove, probably yes, but not all of them
[13:18] <ioria> JuJUBee, also /etc/hosts if incorrect, might slow down things
[13:19] <JuJUBee> looks like default
[13:19] <ioria> ok
[13:19] <JuJUBee> It must be something related to authentication.  more /etc/hosts very fast, nano /etc/hosts taking long time...
[13:20] <JuJUBee> Had to enter passwd
[13:20] <ioria> JuJUBee, journalctl can have clues
[13:21] <JuJUBee> ioria, I have to go teach class, I will come back later... thanks for helping
[13:24] <ioria> ok
[13:48] <g105b> I'm having big troubles trying to install 19.10 - I think nvidia drivers need to be installed on my system. I've managed to boot onto the USB "try before you install" option, but I can't apt update or anything - lot of errors regarding ZFS when trying anything.
[14:26] <wedr> I'm actually wondering about this. I thought Nvidia had released a GeForce Experience software app that manages Ubuntu drivers?
[14:26] <wedr> or any Linux drivers in general
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> wedr: ubuntu-drivers list to see your drivers management
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> or software&updates/tab additional drivers
[14:30] <wedr> That's one way, but I thought Nvidia had that incentive to deliver their own package manager for Linux drivers
[14:30] <oerheks> that is the recommended way, driver tool in updates
[14:30] <wedr> ok, then I was wrong.
[14:31] <oerheks> on top of that, there is a PPA with newer builds too
[14:31] <g105b> I can't install Ubuntu 19.10 from USB. It keeps hanging on ZFS related things. Is it possible to disable whatever ZFS is?
[14:31] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[14:31] <oerheks> g105b, boot in live mode, clean out the disk?
[14:32] <g105b> oerheks: I'm in live mode.
[14:32] <g105b> oerheks: What disk should I clean out?
[14:34] <oerheks> zpool could tell you what disk: https://askubuntu.com/questions/304822/how-do-i-remove-a-pool-from-zfs >> sudo zpool destroy <name>
[14:34] <oerheks> and the disks util gives a gui?
[14:34] <g105b> I've got a fresh SSD in my system, and I have booted into Ubuntu's installation USB. I first tried to let the installer run itself, but it got stuck so I tried to do it manually in the live mode.
[14:35] <g105b> Hm, maybe the SSD isn't as fresh as I think it is.
[14:36] <g105b> What could be causing this? Is the mere presence of an SSD drive causing the installer to fail? Can't the installer ovewrite the whole drive?
[14:37] <g105b> I can reproduce the issue by booting into live mode, then performing apt update && apt upgrade -y
[14:37] <g105b> Doing so hangs apt for about 3 minutes, at which point it fails with a lot of errors about ZFS. As far as I know I haven't mounted any drives yet.
[15:05] <g105b> I can't figure anything out. I unplugged all drives from my PC and went ahead with the installer again - I know it sounds stupid, because there won't be anywhere to install to, but I wanted to see if it hanged still - it still hangs even without any drives. Is there something that a previous install of Ubuntu/Debian could have left outside of the
[15:05] <g105b> hard drives? There isn't any more storage anywhere is there?
[15:14] <simon87> hello, I need to know why my system crash with these errors -> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hVT6tY6qZx/
[15:16] <simon87> After these errors, the windows manager (I think the whole system) is stucked and I must turn off pc from button :l
[15:17] <ioria> simon87, boot an older kernel
[15:18] <simon87> ioria, Could that be the problem?
[15:19] <ioria> simon87, maybe; what's your actual kernel and ubuntu release ?
[15:19] <correct> When I close a ubnntu ec2 instance that has a ubuntu username/password, for some reaosn, I can't ssh to the clone using the same username/password that I created on the host.
[15:19] <correct> *When I clone
[15:20] <ioria> simon87, uname -r ; cat /etc/issue
[15:20] <simon87> Ioria, 5.0.0-36-generic , Ubuntu 10.04
[15:20] <simon87> 19.04*
[15:22] <ioria> simon87, from the grub screen -> advanced option  select and older version
[15:29] <simon87> ioria, ok, im going to try, thanks :)
[15:29] <ioria> no prob
[15:43] <simon87> ioria, I tried to get grub screen holding shift key when ubuntu boots but nothing happens
[15:44] <apawl> When I run `apt-get update`, I notice that some of the official ubuntu repos are being reached via HTTP (i.e. no encryption)
[15:44] <simon87> i also tried with esc key, but it let me enter in boot select window and i have to select media boot
[15:44] <apawl> For example: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> apawl: could you pastebin the output please
[15:44] <simon87> but nothing (it's the second time i try to type you that but the system crashes all the time, im hungry)
[15:45] <apawl> lotuspsychje https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6gQZWqK9dj/
[15:45] <apawl> Wondering why those *.ubuntu.com domains aren't using HTTPS?
[15:46] <ioria> simon87,  you can also edit /etc/default/grub and comment the 2° and 3° line  (GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden and GRUB_TIMEOUT=10), and run  sudo update-grub
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> apawl: if im not mistaken, i heared the mirror guys mentioning something about sync
[15:46] <ioria> simon87,  in this way you'll get the grub screen
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> apawl: if you want to doublecheck, please ask in #ubuntu-mirrors
[15:47] <simon87> ok thank you again, im tring this way
[15:47] <ioria> apawl, https://whydoesaptnotusehttps.com/
[15:48] <apawl> Ha, love the domain
[15:48] <simon87> ioria, i have no "GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden"  in that file; is it the same?
[15:49] <ioria> simon87,  cat /etc/default/grub  | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:49] <apawl> I disagree with some of their criticisms of HTTPS, but appreciate that there are mirrors I can use that have TLS.
[15:49] <simon87> ioria, https://termbin.com/3k1j
[15:50] <SimonNL> love your nick
[15:50] <ioria> simon87,  just comment GRUB_TIMEOUT=0   and run sudo update-grub
[15:51] <simon87> done; if i reboot, grub menu is now accessible, yes?
[15:51] <ioria> yes
[15:51] <simon87> im going to try
[15:53] <simon87> ioria, ok i got it; now i selected 5.0.0-32-generic
[15:53] <simon87> it was the older
[15:54] <ioria> simon87, when exactly did you experience the crash ? i mae, while doing what action ?
[15:54] <ioria> *mean
[15:55] <g105b> Turns out it's literally impossible to use the 19.10 installer to install Ubuntu if the system uses Nvidia drivers. It works perfectly installing 19.04 and upgrading.
[15:55] <ioria> g105b, can't you use nomodeset ?
[15:56] <g105b> ioria: I can, and did, but it made no difference. The actual installer hangs.
[15:56] <simon87> nothing, absolutely nothing lol. when I was trying to explain to you the problem with grub my system stucked for two times and i was forced to turn off the pc from on/off button
[15:57] <simon87> do not depends from what im doing, if there is a lot of memory usage or something like this
[15:57] <ioria> simon87, i see; then test the old kernel for a while;  consider also the upgrade to 19.10
[15:57] <ioria> brb
[15:58] <simon87> ok thank you, see you l8r
[16:04] <JuJUBee> ioria, I am back.  When I logged in it took 9 minutes to authenticate... ugh!  Now if I disable balooctl, it will take another 7-10 minutes for the sudo passwd to authenticate...
[16:05] <JuJUBee> baloo_file_extractor is using 100% of 1 of my cores
[16:11] <ioria> JuJUBee, did you make the .desktop backups ?
[16:15] <logglogy> HI everyone. I am  a novice linux user. I work in a pc shop for years. In our country 100% ppl use windows for everyday use. Lately I am getting more and more requests to install ubuntu alongside the windows. Is there a way to install ubuntu and give it to the customer so the next time he boots in ubuntu it asks him to make an admin account and
[16:15] <logglogy> create a pwd? Usually I would create a random admin user and pwd so the customer can change it later.
[16:16] <rajivmars> today after installing ubuntu, i was trying to install ubuntu-restricted-extras, but while installing corefonts it displays error. i am not able to use msfonts in libreoffice. anybody help please.
[16:17] <DZII> Hello all
[16:17] <DZII> question when using cp to copy a vsftpd conf file it does copy but server fails vi/vim etc works even wget works
[16:19] <rajivmars> now when i am trying to install ttf-mscorefonts-installer, it says that this software is already installed and it is the newest version.
[16:20] <JuJUBee> ioria, yes, I moved them to a separate folder
[16:20] <JuJUBee> ioria, had to wait 9 min for the sudo auth to work...
[16:20] <ioria> JuJUBee, and you still have that baloo_file_extractor 100% cpu ?
[16:20] <JuJUBee> yes
[16:21] <ioria> JuJUBee,  dpkg -l | grep baloo | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:22] <JuJUBee> https://termbin.com/jbcr
[16:22] <ioria> JuJUBee,  sudo systemctl stop balooctl  && sudo systemctl disable balooctl
[16:23] <ioria> JuJUBee,  and reboot
[16:24] <JuJUBee> ioria, here goes, I will be back...
[16:24] <rajivmars> this was the error msg https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Hs5fX2nqww/
[16:27] <nbusrone> may I know , setting /home to ssd is faster or to a hard disk ?
[16:29] <g105b> Is it possible to encrypt just the home directory in 19.04 or 19.10? The option seems to have been removed from the installer.
[16:30] <nbusrone> Does it work by editing fstab changing directory for /home ? https://askubuntu.com/questions/968851/fresh-install-of-ubuntu-17-10-how-can-i-move-home-directory-to-another-hard-dr
[16:31] <nbusrone> 28.04
[16:31] <nbusrone> using 18.04
[16:31] <Rockwood> DOM is missing
[16:31] <Rockwood> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zG5258qFqD/
[16:31] <rajivmars> i m using 18.04.3
[16:34] <pragmaticenigma> g105b: I thought it asked when you set up your user account. What stage in the install process are you currently at?
[16:36] <Rockwood> help me
[16:36] <Rockwood> plz
[16:37] <Rockwood> server 19.10 having lots of missings
[16:37] <pragmaticenigma> !patience | Rockwood
[16:37] <Rockwood> ah okay
[16:38] <JuJUBee> ioria, a little better now, login only took 4 minutes
[16:38] <JuJUBee> ioria, now tracker-miner-fs is using 103%
[16:38] <g105b> pragmaticenigma: I thought so too. I'm on the screen where it's asking for my name and user name and password.
[16:39] <ioria> nope, has been removed g105b , you can use sudo ecryptfs-migrate-home -u <user> but there are caveats (after the install)
[16:39] <g105b> yeah, caveats are chasing me today.
[16:39] <g105b> I have a spare SSD, maybe it will be easier to encrypt that and use it for the /home mountpoint?
[16:40] <JuJUBee> ioria, tracker-miner-fs seems to have settled down now
[16:40] <ioria> g105b, caveats are about the swap and you need to create anothe user and login in it right after the ecryptfs cmd
[16:40] <ioria> JuJUBee, i think you can safely disable it too
[16:40] <g105b> I thought ecryptfs was removed recently? It has been removed from Debian Buster due to many security concerns.
[16:41] <g105b> Is it still part of 19.10?
[16:41] <ioria> g105b, is in universe, indeed
[16:42] <ioria> !info ecryptfs-utils  eoan
[16:42] <g105b> Cool, I'll try that.
[16:42] <ioria> well, not very cool, but ok
[16:42] <pragmaticenigma> g105b: make sure you read the caveats message from ioria
[16:42] <g105b> I'm aware of how to do it, but I'm finding it really difficult to upgrade to 19.10 due to things being incompatible.
[16:43] <pragmaticenigma> g105b: You understand that encrypting the home directory will cause just as many issues the next time you upgrade?
[16:43] <g105b> pragmaticenigma: All I want is an encrypted computer, one that I can upgrade to 19.10 with.
[16:44] <g105b> LUKS failed me.
[16:45] <pragmaticenigma> g105b: and I'm trying to point out that since the encrypted home feature was removed, it's not being tested and not considered part of regression testing in future releases. Meaning that you may risk loss of data at the next Ubuntu release
[16:45] <g105b> What am I meant to do?
[16:45] <g105b> I don't want to run unencrypted.
[16:46] <pragmaticenigma> Full drive encryption is the recommended path. Not knowing what "failed" you in LUKS, I can't really know what to recommend
[16:46] <g105b> I installed 19.04, then do-release-upgrade died with "lvm2-activiation-generator activation generator failed". Won't boot, so I'm installing again without full drive encryption.
[16:47] <g105b> Would it be possible to use a totally separate hard drive as /home mount point, and have that HDD encrypted, or is that complicating things further?
[16:48] <pragmaticenigma> g105b: that would be complicating things further
[16:49] <pragmaticenigma> g105b: When I run my machine encrypted and it comes time for an upgrade. I back all my data up to a separate disk that I can take offline. I install a fresh copy of the OS, and the migrate my data back onto it. I have never seen an upgrade between releases go smoothly
[16:50] <g105b> I would prefer to just install 19.10 but it fails me too.
[16:50] <g105b> The sensible solution is to stick with LTS only.
[16:50] <pragmaticenigma> g105b: The other issue I think you're running into is you're running the standard releases. There's a lot more regression testing and stability between LTS releases
[16:51] <g105b> No shiny new Ubuntu for me then.
[16:53] <DZII> when using cp to copy a vsftpd conf file back to etc it does copy but server fails ?
[16:53] <ioria> g105b, can you summarize what the problem installing 19.10 is ?
[16:54] <g105b> ioria: I pick my location (UK) then pick my keyboard layout (British) then the entire thing hangs forever.
[16:54] <ioria> g105b, alco using nomodeset ?
[16:54] <ioria> *also
[16:54] <g105b> I booted into live mode, and the same thing happens if I try apt-get upgrade
[16:54] <g105b> ioria: Yeah, no difference.
[16:55] <ioria> g105b, no sense running apt upgrade on live cd
[16:55] <g105b> Why?
[16:55] <osse> Hi. I copied /usr/share/applications/kitty.desktop to ~/.local/share/applications/mykitty.desktop. I then changed the Name and modified the Exec to add some arguments. It shows up in the Launcher, but if I pin it to the sidebar and open it again the original desktop file is used. Do I need to give my desktop file a different ID somehow?
[16:55] <JuJUBee> ioria, I did not disable tracker-mine-fs as it stopped using so much cpu.  Now most cpu used is single digits
[16:55] <ioria> g105b, because you'll need to reboot
[16:55] <g105b> ioria: I understand that, but I wanted to see what the issue was.
[16:55] <JuJUBee> ioria, authentication (login/sudo etc) still taking 4 minutes
[16:56] <ioria> g105b, ok
[16:56] <g105b> ioria: apt upgrade replicates the issue - some problems with ZFS not mounting, or timing out ... or something.
[16:57] <ioria> g105b, and you're using the automatic feature ? nothing changed ?
[16:57] <g105b> What automatic feature do you mean?
[16:59] <ioria> g105b, erase the disk and install ubuntu or something else
[16:59] <swimm3r> hi. which tv tuber is the best for ubuntu (DVB-C)? thank you.
[16:59] <g105b> ioria: ah, yeah I let the automatic option do its own thing.
[16:59] <swimm3r> tuner*
[17:00] <ioria> g105b, how did you make the usb media  ? with what software ?
[17:00] <g105b> startup disk creator on another ubuntu machine
[17:00] <ioria> JuJUBee, i suggest to check journalctl
[17:01] <ioria> g105b, not a good idea; please use 'dd'
[17:01] <g105b> Really?
[17:01] <ioria> yep
[17:01] <g105b> How would I know not to trust Canonical's advice on the download page of ubuntu.com ?
[17:02] <ioria> g105b, wait, just my h o
[17:02] <g105b> I'm sure startup disk creator uses dd, but it wraps it in a gui.
[17:03] <g105b> Well I've just done do-release-upgrade without encryption and there are new error preventing it from booting, so I guess 19.10 is just not compatible with my desktop computer.
[17:03] <JuJUBee> ioria, ok, so journalctl is HUGE.  20+K lines still in May 4.
[17:12] <ioria> JuJUBee, journalctl -b 0
[17:12] <ioria> g105b, what's your desktop computer ?
[17:14] <g105b> ioria: unbranded, a trusty workhorse though (until today). Twin GTX 970 gfx cards, ASUS motherboard, Sandisk drives, Intel CPU. About 5 years old.
[17:15] <baqir> hey all. is the Nvidia driver better than the default one?
[17:16] <ioria> g105b, 1) do again the media with dd 2) disable secure boot if enabled
[17:16] <g105b> How confident are you that dd will make any difference to using startup disk creator?
[17:16] <ioria> g105b, it did sometimes
[17:17] <JuJUBee> ioria, ok, what am I looking for?  I don't see any large gap in time (4 min)
[17:17] <ioria> JuJUBee,  paste it please
[17:17] <JuJUBee> ioria, I do see a bunch of "usb 1-4.1: device descriptor read/8, error -110" lines
[17:18] <JuJUBee> ioria, the whole thing?
[17:19] <ioria> JuJUBee,   journalctl -b 0 should not be so big
[17:21] <baqir> hey all. is the Nvidia driver better than the default one?
[17:23] <banyantree> yes but no
[17:23] <Class7> depends what you want you wanna do on your system
[17:23] <Class7> steam and playing games? then yes
[17:23] <banyantree> indeed
[17:24] <Class7> sry the grammer is drunk :D
[17:25] <Class7> for me its the nvidia driver bcus of steam and lutris, on my server i use the default open source driver. its more stable they say
[17:25] <JuJUBee> ioria, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HW8YBYhMXS/
[17:27] <banyantree> anyone with amazon prime account here?
[17:27] <banyantree> or netflix?
[17:27] <Class7> yey but no
[17:27] <Class7> :D
[17:27] <banyantree> i cant watch anything ...
[17:27] <Class7> location?
[17:27] <banyantree> ^^
[17:27] <banyantree> germany
[17:27] <Class7> auch hier deutschland. alles ok netz vodafon
[17:27] <banyantree> its not gema or that shit
[17:28] <banyantree> ah hi
[17:28] <Class7> beides funktioniert
[17:28] <banyantree> nee liegt an meinem browser glaub ich
[17:28] <banyantree> welchen browser benutzt du denn?
[17:28] <Class7> was nimmste na her?
[17:28] <banyantree> chrome und firefox hab ich probiert
[17:29] <Class7> kommt drauf an was ich mach, ff oder chromium
[17:29] <banyantree> firefox ging früher
[17:29] <banyantree> chromium hab ich auch
[17:29] <Class7> ggf hast ja auch dns probleme, tausch mal deinen dns aus wennst weist wie das geht
[17:29] <JuJUBee> ioria, gotta go teach another class.  I will check back in about 1 hr
[17:29] <banyantree> echt, meionste?
[17:29] <Class7> kann sein
[17:29] <Class7> geht youtube?
[17:29] <Class7> vimdeo usw?
[17:29] <banyantree> jepp
[17:30] <banyantree> also html5 geht
[17:30] <banyantree> flash hab ich nicht installiert
[17:30] <banyantree> glaub ich
[17:30] <Class7> https://fast.com/ geht der speedtest bei dir sauber?
[17:30] <banyantree> mom
[17:30] <Class7> dann sollt eig auch netflix gehn
[17:31] <banyantree> zeigt 15mbit an
[17:31] <Class7> und is das ok für dich und deine leitung?
[17:31] <emx> Is there a way to mount SFTP connections into "Files"?
[17:31] <banyantree> ging früher auch
[17:31] <banyantree> ne 16er
[17:31] <banyantree> also 15 ist schon in ordnung
[17:32] <enrio> whats the difference between Ntfs and Ntfs-3g mount?
[17:32] <Class7> ja gute frage worans liegt. netflix server: ok, deine leitung: ok ggf sind grad zu viele auf netflix in deiner gegend und das peering is mist. also der server im hintergrund von deinem anbieter is überlastet
[17:33] <Class7> wenns in ner stund enoch so is dann denk ich is es a problem bei dir
[17:33] <banyantree> also öhm - es geht jetzt
[17:33] <banyantree> danke für deine hilfe =D
[17:33] <Class7> @emx https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2382062
[17:33] <Class7> na is doch schonmal was
[17:33] <Class7> :D
[17:33] <banyantree> Class7 YEAH!!!!
[17:34] <banyantree> der Freitag abend ist gerettet =D
[17:34] <Class7> schönes wochenende
[17:34] <banyantree> dir auch
[17:34] <banyantree> was machst mit dem server?
[17:34] <lordcirth> !de | banyantree
[17:35] <banyantree> ok ok
[17:35] <emx> Class7, thanks
[17:35] <Class7> jesus, the internetz love dem rules ai?
[17:37] <Class7> a channel suffering in idle and silence for days, then suddenly wrong language used and bam - OBEY THE RULES!!!! :D
[17:37] <Class7> silence again it is
[17:37] <Class7> byby
[17:37] <banyantree> cu
[17:37] <oerheks> Class7, idle? you are wrong, please stop it
[17:38] <Class7> i did stop alrdy. no hard feelings ok ;)
[17:40] <oerheks> Class7, i have no problem with people giving support, appreciate it.
[17:41] <Class7> its all fine, just pointed out that we looooove our rules :D
[17:44] <banyantree> is there a channel activity statistics like sent messages over the time in the world wide web?
[17:44] <Class7> netsplit?
[17:45] <Class7> https://netsplit.de/
[17:45] <Class7> the only thing i know so far
[17:45] <Class7> never thought about this :D
[17:45] <banyantree> hehe it says "freenode - out of competition"
[17:48] <Class7> :D
[17:48] <Class7> the more you know
[17:56] <bynarie> how do you get an ubuntu cloak? i assume you have to be some sort of staff?
[17:57] <ikanobori> bynarie: Be an Ubuntu member and ask in #ubuntu-irc.
[17:57] <bynarie> just curious but what exactly qualifies as a member?
[17:58] <legreffier> bynarie: sustained contribution to ubuntu communities.
[17:58] <oerheks> !member
[17:58] <ikanobori> Someone who contributes to Ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/NewMember
[17:58] <bynarie> thank you
[17:58] <oerheks> you can get a free cloak or for your company/project in #freenode
[17:59] <legreffier> bynarie: writing patches, being helpful on irc and/or forums, ...
[17:59] <ikanobori> Yea like the silly one I have. You can also get a unaffiliated cloak.
[17:59] <ikanobori> Or is that the default now?
[18:00] <legreffier> it'll be unaffiliated/whatever
[18:00] <legreffier> yeah
[18:04] <bynarie> sounds good thank you for the info
[18:48] <q9> Hi, how do I use the current ipv6-Prefix in an nftables-rule?
[18:49] <mrproper> I am installing Ubuntu Desktop 19.10 to VMware Fusion and it is hanged multiple times when I tell it to format the partition. Is this a known bug?
[19:24] <pipegeek> q9: just to get it out of the way: the underlying volume isn't full is it?
[19:26] <lpapp> hi, I am trying to upgrade from 08.04
[19:26] <lpapp> I have tried following these instructions: https://www.ndchost.com/wiki/server-administration/upgrade-ubuntu-pre-10.04
[19:26] <lpapp> do-release-upgrade --proposed -> No new release found.
[19:26] <lpapp> 8.04.2 to be precise on i686
[19:28] <twobitsprite> lpapp: you want to apply 11 years of upgrades all at once? I would probably just back up my data and re-install fresh...
[19:28] <q9> pinegeek: wrong person you mean mrproper
[19:29] <lpapp> twobitsprite: yes, or even step by step
[19:29] <mrproper> pipegeek: If you're referring to me, then correct. There is plenty of it available. 265GB.
[19:29] <lpapp> there is no data
[19:29] <lpapp> however this is an old netbook. I do not really have an usb at hand to write out 16.04 (last i686 release)
[19:30] <lpapp> anyway, got a clue even if I have to go to 10.04 or something first?
[19:31] <nixfreak85> Question about mounting DVD iso on 16.x and then installing packages like cifs-utils
[19:32] <nixfreak85> I am running this on xenserver, When I mount the iso I can see the full directories but I want to apt-get install some package from the iso
[19:32] <nixfreak85> apt-cdrom add /media/iso/path/ does not work
[19:34] <nixfreak85> or add the iso directories to sources.list , I just don't know what directories to add , any help would be very helpful, also I am doing this offline
[19:36] <Ben64> nixfreak85: https://www.hiroom2.com/2016/08/12/ubuntu-16-04-install-package-from-dvd/
[19:45] <nixfreak85> @ben64 and this will work even though the iso is mounted to /media/ubuntu*
[19:46] <nixfreak85> because if I umount then I can't see it from Xen anymore
[21:15] <pipegeek> oh crumbs, sorry q9
[21:33] <lenny_lemon> i tried to upgrade ubuntu to 18 from 16.04 but debconf screen for restarting daemon services got shadowed as is stuck on for a while... what I can do?
[21:35] <Hinnerk> Hi. I have a bit of a situation here :)
[21:35] <Hinnerk> I have a server running Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, but don't have the root password anymore
[21:36] <lordcirth> Hinnerk, Are you sure a root password was set? The standard on Ubuntu is to use sudo
[21:36] <Hinnerk> My knowledge is a bit shaky
[21:37] <Hinnerk> How do reset any passwords?
[21:37] <lordcirth> Hinnerk, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[21:37] <lordcirth> Hmm, that might actually be out of date
[21:38] <Hinnerk> I am in GRUB right now
[21:38] <lordcirth> Hinnerk, right. So there should be 'advanced options' and then 'recovery'
[21:38] <Hinnerk> yes
[21:39] <Hinnerk> need a version?
[21:39] <Hinnerk> 4.4.0-154
[21:40] <Hinnerk> I found some instructions saying i should edit the command
[21:41] <Hinnerk> but i wasn't feeling comfortable enough wiht the instruction - it was some asian guy in poor english...
[21:41] <Hinnerk> and it was already a mess when he was talking about ro rw - so i rather came here...
[21:42] <lordcirth> Hinnerk, if you enter recovery, there should be an option to change the password.
[21:42] <lordcirth> Or failing that, a root shell.
[21:42] <Hinnerk> ok, didn'T start it yet, since i was expecting having to go into edit
[21:43] <Hinnerk> did now, system is starting.
[21:43] <Hinnerk> theres an option for root shell
[21:43] <Hinnerk> nothing speak of password directlly
[21:44] <Hinnerk> launch root shell?
[21:44] <lordcirth> Hinnerk, ok, so take the root shell.
[21:44] <Hinnerk> so
[21:44] <lordcirth> I think it is read-only by default, so 'mount / -o remount,rw'
[21:44] <Hinnerk> now it wants the root password
[21:44] <lordcirth> Ah, ok. So there is a root password set.
[21:45] <lordcirth> Hinnerk, so instead, you will need to reboot, and on the default grub entry, press 'e'.
[21:45] <Hinnerk> ok, will take a moment.
[21:45] <lordcirth> Then find the 'linux' line, and append 'init=/bin/bash'
[21:45] <Hinnerk> default entry or recovery?
[21:45] <sarnold> lenny_lemon: so, you've got a window prompt of some sort saying "restart services?" and it's hung solid?
[21:45] <sarnold> lenny_lemon: can you see anything else it's doing with top or ps?
[21:46] <sarnold> lenny_lemon: if it's hung, it might be nice to get a bug report about it before going much further, ubuntu-bug do-release-upgrade would start the process
[21:47] <lordcirth> Hinnerk, default is fine
[21:47] <Hinnerk> ah, missed it
[21:47] <Hinnerk> i meant grub
[21:47] <Hinnerk> not the line :)
[21:48] <lordcirth> Hinnerk, so, did you find it?
[21:48] <Hinnerk> need to rebbot again
[21:49] <Hinnerk> working on it
[21:50] <lenny_lemon> sarnold, haven't check ps or top. what I should look for?
[21:50] <sarnold> lenny_lemon: I'm not entirely sure :/
[21:50] <lenny_lemon> sarnold, that report can run from terminal?
[21:51] <sarnold> yes
[21:51] <Hinnerk> found it
[21:52] <Hinnerk> ah, keyboard layout is changed...
[21:52] <Hinnerk> will take a sec
[21:53] <dbugger> Help! I just installed 19.10 in my 2nd SSD, and now GRUB wont come up, so that I can log in inside Windows 10, installed in the other one!
[21:54] <Hinnerk> ok got it.
[21:55] <Hinnerk> does it need to be saved or are al changes active on boot?
[21:55] <Hinnerk> (i don't see a save command)
[21:55] <Hinnerk> (does mention emacs style editing, does not talk about saving)
[21:56] <Hinnerk> should i just boot now? or anything else?
[21:58] <Hinnerk> lordcirth: done. is there a save option? anything else to do here? or just boot?
[21:58] <lenny_lemon> sarnold, the problem cannot be reported:The report belongs to a package that is not installed.
[21:58] <lordcirth> Hinnerk, just boot using the key it mentions
[21:58] <Hinnerk> sorry for all the questions, just trying to be cautious
[21:58] <Hinnerk> k
[21:58] <lordcirth> The change only takes effect on this boot, there is no save
[21:59] <Hinnerk> ok
[21:59] <Hinnerk> shell is open
[21:59] <Hinnerk> "root@(none):/#"
[22:00] <lordcirth> Hinnerk, now you should be able to 'mount / -o remount,rw'
[22:00] <lordcirth> then 'passwd'
[22:01] <Hinnerk> puh
[22:01] <Hinnerk> that was it?
[22:02] <lordcirth> Hinnerk, if passwd accepted your change, yeah
[22:02] <Hinnerk> lordcirth: Done. Can I from here also change the password of users?
[22:02] <Hinnerk> Yes it did
[22:02] <lordcirth> Hinnerk, yes, 'passwd $USER'
[22:03] <Hinnerk> And thank your very much! Highly appreciated!
[22:03] <lordcirth> Hinnerk, no problem
[22:03] <lordcirth> I may edit the wiki page for this later...
[22:04] <Hinnerk> so is the init entry transient?
[22:14] <dbugger> Hello again
[22:14] <saor> obugger
[22:14] <dbugger> I have an big problem. My GRUB is gone, and I literally know NOTHING of how to repair it ... :/
[22:15] <saor> Boot a live usb and use boot-repair
[22:15] <saor> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:15] <dbugger> I cant repair it from Ubuntu? Do I have to use the live usb?
[22:15] <saor> Better to use a live env
[22:16] <saor> But sure i suppose you could
[22:16] <jeremy31> dbugger: Is Windows and Ubuntu on different drives using UEFI?
[22:16] <akk> But you'll need something like a live distro to boot your existing ubuntu anyway.
[22:16] <dbugger> jeremy31, yes, I got an SSD for Windows and another one for Ubuntu
[22:16] <dbugger> akk, I think there is a misunderstanding... the OS that I cannot reach IS WINDOWS
[22:17] <dbugger> I am stuck in Uubuntu
[22:17] <dbugger> After installing 19.10, the GRUB disappeared
[22:17] <akk> Grub is usually how you boot into ubuntu, hence my confusion. :)
[22:17] <jeremy31> dbugger: can you use the BIOS boot menu to boot Windows?
[22:17] <akk> Maybe grub is still there, it's just not pausing to show you the menu?
[22:17] <dbugger> jeremy31, I tried, but I couldnt. I got some "grub rescue" shell
[22:18] <dbugger> Also, something is weird because I seem to have a boot partition in both disks :/
[22:18] <saor> dbugger: If you press teh boot menu key at boot do you see ubuntu / windows as an option in the uefi
[22:19] <dbugger> This is Ubuntu SSD: https://i.stack.imgur.com/5dsNC.png
[22:19] <dbugger> This is Windows SSD: https://i.stack.imgur.com/ro3At.png
[22:19] <lenny_lemon> my ubuntu 16.04 got hang on daemon restart screen. what can I do?
[22:19] <lenny_lemon> i tried to upgrade to 18
[22:19] <dbugger> saor, I see the SSD, but no mention of "windows" anywhere
[22:19] <akk> There's GRUB_TIMEOUT in /etc/default/grub and sometimes ubuntu likes to default that to something short, like 0 seconds.
[22:20] <jeremy31> dbugger: windows is installed in Legacy BIOS boot and Ubuntu is installed using UEFI, that is the problem
[22:20] <dbugger> jeremy31, I cant say I know anything about that... :/
[22:22] <jeremy31> dbugger: if you install Ubuntu in Legacy Boot, it might pick up the windows install.  You might be best trying the BIOS boot menu to pick whether to boot Ubuntu or Windows
[22:23] <dbugger> I am trying that "boot-repair" documentation now... lets see
[22:23] <jeremy31> dbugger: I would skip the boot repair
[22:24] <molt> hey all. I'm wondering if there is a way to navigate windows network shares in Ubutnu the same way you can in Windows via File Explorer? (putting the unc and moving around like any other directory)
[22:24] <dbugger> oh well, now I already started... better go all the way now
[22:25] <dbugger> Well, it is done. It gave me a pastebin: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RVGynkbzz3/
[22:25] <dbugger> Im gonna reboot, and see if that did anyhting
[22:25] <dbugger> brb
[22:27] <dbugger> Nah, that did nothing :/
[22:27] <dbugger> jeremy31, what were you saying is that I should do?
[22:28] <jeremy31> dbugger: you should be able to switch what OS you boot to using the BIOS boot menu
[22:29] <dbugger> jeremy31, Yeah, I tried, but I cant. All the options that I find there bring me to that "grub rescue"
[22:29] <dbugger> Except the one that brings me back to 19.10, of course
[22:29] <jeremy31> dbugger: Is it Windows 7?
[22:29] <dbugger> W10
[22:30] <dbugger> No, it is not Windows 7. I have Windows 10 in there.
[22:31] <saor> Did you try boot repair yet?
[22:31] <dbugger> saor, yes, it did nothing
[22:31] <saor> And if you remove your ubuntu ssd does widows boot?
[22:31] <dbugger> saor, this is what boot repair did: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RVGynkbzz3/
[22:32] <dbugger> well, I cant make it boot from the BIOS, so my assumption is that it would NOT work
[22:32] <dbugger> no?
[22:33] <saor> Yeah sounds like you windows part got blown up
[22:33] <dbugger> Please tell me I have not lost it.... o_O
[22:33] <saor> Remove the ubuntu ssd boot your windows install media and attempt to recover it
[22:34] <saor> Shouldnt be a problem becuase you have good backups right? ;)
[22:34] <dbugger> I do, but my wife does not :P
[22:34] <jeremy31> dbugger: It looks like the hybrid shutdown of windows was used/not disabled
[22:34] <dbugger> tons of pictures lost, im sure
[22:34] <dbugger> jeremy31, what does that mean?
[22:35] <saor> 'powercfg /h off'
[22:35] <dbugger> Are you telling me to run that command? (I have no idea what it means)
[22:35] <saor> Windows 10, disables hybred shutdown
[22:35] <dbugger> Ah, thats a windows command
[22:36] <dbugger> But first I have to be able to log inside...
[22:36] <dbugger> saor, im gonna do what you said, and try to remove the Ubuntu SSD
[22:36] <saor> Yeah try to boot recovery media, do the BCD repair commands
[22:36] <akk> dbugger: If you're worried about files, like pictures, mount the windows disk read-only from ubuntu and back them up asap.
[22:36] <saor> ^^
[22:37] <dbugger> akk, well, I fear that it is more complicated. Like book-keeping software that has databases, that cannot be exported, without running the program...
[22:37] <saor> If i give you too much help with windows the chat nazi's will come and get me
[22:37] <dbugger> Anyway, Im going to take off the Ubuntu SSD and try see what happens
[22:37] <dbugger> BRB
[22:42] <dbugger> saor, nothing. I got the same output:
[22:42] <dbugger> error: no such device
[22:42] <molt> hey all. I'm wondering if there is a way to navigate windows network shares in Ubutnu the same way you can in Windows via File Explorer? (putting the unc and moving around like any other directory)
[22:42] <dbugger> error: unknown filesystem
[22:42] <dbugger> Entering rescue mode
[22:42] <dbugger> grub rescue>
[22:42] <dbugger> so yeah.. that did not work :/
[22:42] <saor> dbugger: Are you familiar with the bcd repair steps for windows?
[22:43] <dbugger> saor, not even one bit...
[22:43] <saor> i'm gonna dm them to you if thats okay since its off topic for this chat
[22:43] <dbugger> Thanks. I appreciate it
[22:43] <genii> molt: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/nautilus-connect.html.en shows how to do this
[22:46] <ben_g> Hi. I set up a software raid with mdadm and everything was booting off the raid array just fine earlier today, but when I rebooted a lot of stuff seemed messed up and it turns out that the filesystem is detected as read-only even though the raid status is reported as active.
[22:48] <jeremy31> dbugger: if you have a Win 10 rescue disc you can probably fix the BCD.
[22:48] <ben_g> How do I figure out what's causing it to detect as readonly?
[22:53] <dbugger> jeremy31, I dont...
[22:54] <jeremy31> dbugger: might want to search on how to fix without it then, I don't have any other ideas
[22:55] <dbugger> :(
[23:00] <sarnold> lenny_lemon: oh bugger :( did you get a chance to file the report or make it further?
[23:02] <lenny_lemon> sarnold, no, trying to sort it out. trying to find dpkg: error: dpkg frontend is locked by another process
[23:06] <sarnold> lenny_lemon: arghs :(
[23:10] <ben_g> fsck says "fsck.ext4: Unable to resolve 'UUID=55579e1b-b6ce-4432-81ec-34686c6c6132'", which seems to imply there's something wrong in /etc/fstab. How can I rebuild that file?
[23:12] <TheCr0w^> ben_g: do a blkid
[23:12] <TheCr0w^> you should see the filesystem's correct UUID.
[23:14] <ben_g> Okay, but how do I use that information? I can't edit /etc/fstab manually since the system is still locked in read-only
[23:14] <TheCr0w^> boot it from a live cd and mount it
[23:15] <ben_g> Is that the only way? Since I'm accessing the system remotely...
[23:16] <TheCr0w^> is that the error you're getting when you're booting?
[23:16] <TheCr0w^> i assume.
[23:16] <TheCr0w^> or has your root filesystem gone read only ?
[23:17] <ben_g> The system boots fine, but the root is read-only
[23:17] <TheCr0w^> Odd. What does your 'mount' output say?
[23:17] <TheCr0w^> pastebin it if you like.
[23:18] <ben_g> https://pastebin.com/evEvLq3J
[23:18] <TheCr0w^> oh you're using mdraid
[23:18] <TheCr0w^> cat /proc/mdstat
[23:18] <TheCr0w^> have you got a failed drive?
[23:19] <ben_g> https://pastebin.com/c7MfMrXn
[23:19] <ben_g> Both drives are new
[23:20] <TheCr0w^> what happens if you mount -o remount,rw /
[23:20] <ben_g> mount: can't find UUID=55579e1b-b6ce-4432-81ec-34686c6c6132
[23:22] <TheCr0w^> give me an output of blkid and cat /etc/fstab
[23:23] <ben_g> https://pastebin.com/DUnRfYbR
[23:26] <TheCr0w^> mdadm --detail /dev/md0
[23:27] <TheCr0w^> also does dmesg say anything about scsi
[23:27] <TheCr0w^> or md0
[23:27] <ben_g> https://pastebin.com/s6SVCeGS
[23:28] <TheCr0w^> did you install this box as mdraid
[23:28] <adrian_1908> Are snaps audited? Probably not, right?
[23:28] <ben_g> And the results from dmesg: https://pastebin.com/nzRcXgfK
[23:29] <ben_g> The original installation was on a single drive, no RAID
[23:29] <TheCr0w^> I see
[23:29] <TheCr0w^> I'm curious as to how this is even booting.
[23:30] <ben_g> Is there a lot wrong with it then?
[23:31] <TheCr0w^> what does cat /proc/cmdline say
[23:31] <ben_g> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-169-generic root=UUID=1d64c5f1-d3fc-4e0e-b2e8-7fbd9dc5cf96 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[23:32] <TheCr0w^> well it's in a very strange state. whoever converted it obviously forgot to update the fstab with the correct uuid.
[23:33] <ben_g> The original hard drive failed, but testdisk managed to restart it long enough to recover the partitions
[23:33] <TheCr0w^> it's booting off this
[23:34] <TheCr0w^> /dev/md1: UUID="1d64c5f1-d3fc-4e0e-b2e8-7fbd9dc5cf96" TYPE="ext4"
[23:34] <ben_g> I then built a RAID array from 2 new drives to which the partitions were copied
[23:34] <TheCr0w^> mdadm --detail /dev/md1 ?
[23:34] <ben_g> And then I made it bootable with boot-repair
[23:34] <ben_g> https://pastebin.com/FLA2VQan
[23:35] <TheCr0w^> pastebin a copy of /var/log/boot.log ?
[23:36] <TheCr0w^> very interesting how the hell it is actually mounting the right filesystem. lol. *scratches head*
[23:38] <ben_g> The full log seems to be too long to copy-paste
[23:39] <TheCr0w^> shouldn't be. might have to give it a few sections though.
[23:39] <TheCr0w^> or you can DCC it to me here.
[23:40] <ben_g> Right, I was looking at the wrong thing, sorry. It's here: https://pastebin.com/yft9wMTi
[23:43] <TheCr0w^> very strange.
[23:43] <TheCr0w^> umm, yeah, do you not have a remote console for it?
[23:43] <TheCr0w^> that you can boot some media.
[23:44] <ben_g> I'm connected to it with ssh, the computer isn't in my house.
[23:45] <TheCr0w^> what does tune2fs -l /dev/md1 tell you
[23:45] <ben_g> https://pastebin.com/zPzkdcEs
[23:46] <TheCr0w^> alright so the file system is clean.
[23:47] <TheCr0w^> grub automatically mounts root as the device set in your kernel config.. but it's treating that fstab entry as an error.
[23:48] <TheCr0w^> you could tryyyy mount -o remount,rw /dev/md1 /
[23:48] <TheCr0w^> it's possible that will crash your system, if it works at all.
[23:48] <ben_g> It works and I seem to have write permission now.
[23:49] <TheCr0w^> ok, update your fstab
[23:49] <TheCr0w^> to 1d64c5f1-d3fc-4e0e-b2e8-7fbd9dc5cf96
[23:50] <ben_g> the / ?
[23:50] <TheCr0w^> yeah
[23:51] <ben_g> do I leave the swap the way it is now or should I change that as well?
[23:52] <TheCr0w^> should be fine, but you've given all of /dev/md2 as swap.
[23:53] <dbugger> saor, I fixed it... somehow
[23:53] <saor> Well done!
[23:53] <dbugger> But now its the grub that wont show up :/
[23:53] <TheCr0w^> ?
[23:53] <ben_g> md2 should be a 4GB or 8GB swap partition
[23:54] <ben_g> 4GB.
[23:55] <TheCr0w^> swapon -s
[23:55] <ben_g> so do I now reboot and hope it works?
[23:55] <TheCr0w^> haha. your call on that :)
[23:55] <dbugger> saor, and I did it with one ubuntu command :P
[23:55] <TheCr0w^> i don't think you will make it any worse though :)
[23:57]  * TheCr0w^ is curious though :)