[00:02] <ben_g> IT'S WORKING!
[00:02] <ben_g> Thanks a lot, it successfully booted and I have write permission again.
[00:03] <sarnold> is there a quick summary of what was wrong and what fixed it?
[00:04] <TheCr0w^> cool :)
[00:05] <ben_g> sarnold, some UUID was wrong in fstab, which caused the filesystem to become read-only
[00:05] <sarnold> ew
[00:05] <sarnold> that wuold have confused me to no end; I'm not real good with the uuid view of filesystems :)
[00:06] <TheCr0w^> it's because you have errors=remount-ro
[00:06] <TheCr0w^> (which is generally a good thing)
[00:45] <adrian_1908> Do I need Avahi for CUPS/printer discovery?
[00:46] <sarnold> I'm not positive, but that's my guess, yes
[00:49] <TheCr0w^> adrian_1908: no, unless you are sharing printers from your computer.
[00:49] <TheCr0w^> cups-browsed finds the printers, not avahi.
[01:15] <adrian_1908> TheCr0w^: And the protocols necessary for printer discovery do not require any of the `avahi-*` packages?
[01:17] <TheCr0w^> adrian_1908: nope.
[01:18] <TheCr0w^> avahi is a bonjour server, for other devices to find YOU.
[01:18] <adrian_1908> Ah ok, that makes sense!
[01:36] <derpadmin> struggled with bonjour lately
[01:36] <derpadmin> stupid chromecast
[01:36] <derpadmin> bonjour does not work across subnets
[01:36] <derpadmin> ended up passing an option to vlc
[01:37] <derpadmin> no need for bonjour... was more like goodbye :)
[02:23] <Rabid_Raven> hi guys, is there any way of restoring localization files? with sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales, it keeps telling me that whatever locale i try to add cannot be found
[02:25] <sarnold> Rabid_Raven: I wonder if debsums -ac will show you what's possibly missing from those packages.. it might be pretty noisy or it might not even help, but it's the first thing that comes to mind
[02:26] <Rabid_Raven> worth a try
[02:27] <Rabid_Raven> missing a ton of /usr/share/locale files
[02:28] <sarnold> cool; apt get install --reinstall those packages
[02:28] <Rabid_Raven> any way of reinstalling them from a startup disk or something?
[02:28] <TheCr0w^> you should be able to remove the package with nodeps
[02:28] <TheCr0w^> and then reinstall it
[02:28] <sarnold> no need to remove it either
[02:28] <sarnold> just the apt get install --reinstall should do the job; you shouldn't need to reboot or remove anything
[02:29] <sarnold> sigh apt-get install
[02:29] <TheCr0w^> true.
[02:29] <Rabid_Raven> i only really need the fr_CA locale either way
[02:29] <sarnold> I'm trying to learn how to use "apt install" after twenty-ish years of apt-get and I screw up often..
[02:30] <Rabid_Raven> so what would be the full command to --reinstall the locale files?
[02:30] <TheCr0w^> apt-get install --reinstall locales
[02:31] <TheCr0w^> odd files to go missing though..
[02:31] <Rabid_Raven> i figured that but didn't want to take a change
[02:31] <Rabid_Raven> chance
[02:31] <TheCr0w^> :)
[02:33] <Rabid_Raven> alright, time to log out and try it again
[02:33] <Rabid_Raven> after this video...
[02:33] <sarnold> Rabid_Raven: try the dpkg-reconfigure step first
[02:34] <TheCr0w^> :)
[02:36] <Rabid_Raven> sarnold: sounded good, did so. will restart just to be sure
[02:36] <Rabid_Raven> nothing against the english language but as a french teacher and francophile, i'd rather be in a french environment
[02:39] <Rabid_Raven> either way, thanks for all of your help. I hope to one day be so good with this os that i can fix everything myself :P)
[02:58] <Rabid_Raven> kde tells me, in the regional settings, that "there are no languages available on this system"
[02:58] <Rabid_Raven> there's got to be a way to fix that
[02:59] <TheCr0w^> did you reconfigure
[02:59] <TheCr0w^> or reinstall
[02:59] <Rabid_Raven> --reinstall
[03:00] <Rabid_Raven> basically, I did sudo apt-get install --reinstall locales
[03:00] <TheCr0w^> hmm. you may need to restart kde?
[03:00] <Rabid_Raven> i restarted the whole computer and even logged out a few times after trying a few things
[03:00] <TheCr0w^> strange.
[03:00] <Rabid_Raven> maybe we can --reinstall languages rather than locales?
[03:00] <Rabid_Raven> (even though that seems to be the same thing)
[03:01] <TheCr0w^> try the reconfigure.
[03:01] <Rabid_Raven> same apt line but --reconfigure?
[03:01] <Bashing-om> Rabid_Raven: This Help : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale/
[03:01] <TheCr0w^> dpkg-reconfigure locales
[03:01] <Rabid_Raven> Bashing-om: been there
[03:01] <Rabid_Raven> oh, i did that too
[03:02] <TheCr0w^> try reinstall these packages
[03:02] <Rabid_Raven> imma just install all languages possible
[03:02] <TheCr0w^> language-pack-en
[03:02] <TheCr0w^> language-pack-en-base
[03:02] <TheCr0w^> language-pack-kde-en
[03:02] <Rabid_Raven> i imagine fr_CA requires fr_FR
[03:03] <TheCr0w^> do you have language-pack-kde-fr
[03:03] <TheCr0w^> installed
[03:04] <Rabid_Raven> let's find out
[03:05] <Rabid_Raven> looks like it wasn't installed, go figure
[03:05] <Rabid_Raven> i installed in french too
[03:05] <TheCr0w^> oui oui
[03:06] <TheCr0w^> sacré bleu!
[03:06] <Rabid_Raven> time to try eveything
[03:17] <bigboy360> how do i search in the *most* general way for a piece of software on debian by keyword?
[03:17] <bigboy360> like say I dont know the ppa even and want to find a list
[03:19] <Bashing-om> bigboy360: My goto: https://packages.ubuntu.com/ .
[03:23] <rbasak> bigboy360: "apt search"?
[03:26] <bigboy360> rbasak, doesnt that just search through sources already listed in my sources.list?
[03:27] <rbasak> bigboy360: yes - isn't that what you're requesting?
[03:27] <rbasak> All (installable and functional) software in Debian should be available via that.
[03:28] <rbasak> Oh, sorry.
[03:29] <rbasak> You mean random third party sources publishing software _for_ Debian but aren't provided in Debian itself?
[03:29] <rbasak> I don't know of any good answer to that, sorry.
[03:30] <rbasak> I would strongly recommend against using random third party sources though. They break your system. Users tend not to notice until when they try upgrading to a new distro release, at which point they usually don't realise it was the installation of third party software that broke their systems.
[03:30] <rbasak> Third party repositories provided by apt cannot integrate with the system packaging system properly and are fundamentally broken.
[03:33] <Dregneel602> Running Ubuntu 18.04 fully up to date. Just installed openshot and handbrake via the Ubuntu Software and noticed I now have Blender and Inkscape installed which I NEVER installed myself. How does this happen?! Noticed this happen on 2 separate computers now. Anyone else notice this?
[03:34] <bigboy360> rbasak, what do you meant cnat integrate with system packaging
[03:34] <bigboy360> like cant be updated when you do sudo apt update?
[03:36] <TheCr0w^> Dregneel602: Blender and Inkscape are "dependencies" of openshot.
[03:36] <Dregneel602> @TheCr0w^, ah, didn't know that. Thanks!
[03:37] <Dregneel602> guess I better reinstall those 2 apps then lol
[03:37] <TheCr0w^> it's quite possible that whatever you need to do will continue to work.
[03:38] <rbasak> bigboy360: I mean that they cannot fully express dependency relationships like the distribution archive can, so that leads to broken packages following a distribution release upgrade. It's an arcane packaging point - summary is, it's impossible for a third party repository to provide third party software effectively without breaking a future distribution upgrade.
[03:38] <TheCr0w^> https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/openshot
[03:39] <TheCr0w^> yeah, blender and inkscape both there. so yes, probably do reinstall them :)
[03:40] <Dregneel602> @TheCr0w^, thanks. Will do. Don't want any issues with them
[03:43] <bigboy360> rbasak, what if it adds itself properly to sources.list
[03:43] <bigboy360> and all dependencies
[03:50] <rbasak> bigboy360: it can't. dpkg package relationships are only specified from one end (a different end depending on the specific relationship). There are some relationships that third party repositories cannot specify, such as "Breaks" in the distro to third party direction. This is what breaks upgrades. When not using third party repositories, these relationships can be specified fully by distribution
[03:50] <rbasak> maintainers, and these are essential for correct ordering when doing an upgrade.
[03:51] <rbasak> Even if third party repositories do everything right (they usually don't), it's not possible for them to ensure that future distribution release upgrades go smoothly
[03:51] <rbasak> Third party apt repositories are fundamentally a hack.
[03:51] <rbasak> apt treats them as if they are first party sources and as if the distribution fully expresses relationships with those third parties, but they don't.
[03:52] <rbasak> bigboy360: this is partly why snaps were invented - because third party apt repositories don't work.
[03:53] <rbasak> Well that's maybe a bit harsh. They do work initially, at least. Many people still use them.
[03:53] <rbasak> But generally using them inevitably breaks things.
[04:03] <bigboy360> rbasak, what do snaps do differently
[04:06] <rbasak> bigboy360: they run in a sandbox, like an Android or iOS app does. They don't have permission or access to break the system. They're designed specifically for third parties to ship software in a more secure and stable way directly to end users, whereas third party apt repositories have always been a hack.
[04:07] <bigboy360> i see
[04:07] <bigboy360> cool
[05:35] <lenny_lemon> any advice after upgrading to ubuntu 18.04 ?
[05:38] <lenny_lemon> I liked 16.04 more... i don't like that close window menu on other (windows) side...
[05:41] <Bashing-om> !info gnome-tweak-too bionic
[05:41] <Bashing-om> !info gnome-tweak-tool bionic
[05:42] <Bashing-om> lenny_lemon: ^^
[05:52] <lenny_lemon> Bashing-om, i'm not PRO... what you trying to tell me?   :)
[05:53] <Bashing-om> lenny_lemon: install the gnome-tweak-tool - one of the things it enables one to do is change the button positions.
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> lenny_lemon: the gnome tweak tool lets you tweak your ubuntu more
[05:54] <lenny_lemon> :)))
[05:54] <lenny_lemon> thanks
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> lenny_lemon: and see also dconf-editor pretty handy aswell if you like tweaks
[05:54] <lenny_lemon> by sudo apt install gnome-tweak-tool ?
[05:55] <Bashing-om> lenny_lemon: Uh Huh :D
[05:59] <lenny_lemon> nice... i got it right now... on the left...
[05:59] <lenny_lemon> on the right side... the left one... hahahahh
[06:00] <Bashing-om> lenny_lemon: :D
[06:00] <lenny_lemon> common for islands... left is the right one...
[06:01] <lenny_lemon> after 7hrs upgrading can go sleep now... :)
[06:01] <lenny_lemon> will tweak and play later... thanks again... Bashing-om lotuspsychje
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> happy tweakin
[06:02] <lenny_lemon> :D
[06:02] <lenny_lemon> i just have installed tor but it does not run...
[06:02] <lenny_lemon> what can it be?
[06:04] <lenny_lemon> ok, don't worry... i'm not gonna spend another hour... got enough...
[06:07] <TheCr0w^> :)
[07:09] <simon87> hello i've like 1500 errors like this -> file '7' write error: Read-only file system [v8.32.0 try http://www.rsyslog.com/e/2027 ]
[07:09] <simon87> what does it means?
[07:16] <TheCr0w^> simon87: your file system has gone read only, possibly due to errors.
[07:17] <TheCr0w^> you may have some underlying hardware issue with your disk, but there are a few possible reasons.
[07:18] <simon87> i've changed my hdd with an ssd
[07:18] <TheCr0w^> for the root filesystem?
[07:19] <simon87> yes, the whole system is on the ssd
[07:19] <TheCr0w^> ok. you may have the same issue someone else had earlier.
[07:19] <TheCr0w^> give me an output of blkid, mount and cat /etc/fstab
[07:19] <TheCr0w^> https://paste.ubuntu.com/
[07:20] <simon87> wait, please; what ive to mount?
[07:20] <TheCr0w^> just run these commands
[07:21] <TheCr0w^> blkid
[07:21] <TheCr0w^> cat /etc/fstab
[07:21] <TheCr0w^> mount
[07:21] <TheCr0w^> and paste the output into https://paste.ubuntu.com/ and send me the link.
[07:23] <simon87> TheCr0w^ , https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HFVHtrhsDY/
[07:24] <simon87> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qKDWNZ5rPw/
[07:24] <arunjain> getting a error during build
[07:25] <TheCr0w^> simon87: blkid please
[07:26] <simon87> TheCr0w^ , it returns nothing
[07:26] <TheCr0w^> can't be.
[07:26] <TheCr0w^> are you root
[07:26] <simon87> no, im not
[07:26] <TheCr0w^> please go to root and run blkid
[07:27] <TheCr0w^> sudo su -
[07:28] <simon87> TheCr0w^ , https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VVdrm52cnb/
[07:30] <TheCr0w^> simon87: run tune2fs -l /dev/sda2
[07:30] <simon87> with #?
[07:30] <TheCr0w^> yes
[07:30] <TheCr0w^> as root
[07:32] <simon87> TheCr0w^ , https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gFNXq2KBj3/
[07:32] <TheCr0w^> ok, your file system has some errors, you need to reboot into rescue mode and run e2fsck -f /dev/sda2
[07:34] <simon87> ok then i've to show you output or simething else when ill be in rescue mode? (just to know if i've to take a photo to the screen)
[07:34] <TheCr0w^> https://www.ostechnix.com/how-to-boot-into-rescue-mode-or-emergency-mode-in-ubuntu-18-04/
[07:36] <simon87> TheCr0w^, please, read above
[07:36] <TheCr0w^> you need to follow the emergency mode instructions
[07:37] <TheCr0w^> you don't really need to show me.. you will be asked to repair some errors, and you should say yes to all the prompts.
[07:38] <TheCr0w^> this does not explain why the errors were caused however. have you powered the machine off unexpectedly?
[07:39] <TheCr0w^> reminded, you need EMERGENCY mode not rescue mode.
[07:41] <simon87> yes several times if i've to say the truth because my system blocked for several times with no apparently errors; i think i get some errors with usb buses but i dont really know what cause that crashes
[07:41] <TheCr0w^> ok, well this increases the chances of file system errors.
[07:42] <TheCr0w^> when these are detected, for your data's saftey writing to the disk is disabled.
[07:42] <TheCr0w^> I would recommend that you update your kernel to the latest if you have not done so already, after we get the partition writable again.
[07:45] <simon87> ok, so i've to boot in emergency and repair the filesystem, then update kernel?
[07:45] <simon87> 5.0.0-36-genericUbuntu 19.04 \n \l
[07:45] <simon87> this is my kernel and ubuntu version
[07:50] <simon87> TheCr0w^ , im going to repair filesystem, then ill be back here, really thank you for all of this, brb
[08:18] <simon87> TheCr0w^ , i booted with Emergency mode editing grub options, but i dont think that i got the right screen cause it opened up (initramfs)
[08:19] <TheCr0w^> possibly not. you can just boot from the live cd, may be easier for you.
[08:22] <simon87> In the grub screen of live cd i go in "Check disc for defects"?
[08:22] <TheCr0w^> yep you can do that.
[08:22] <TheCr0w^> actually, no, that's checking the actual media.
[08:22] <TheCr0w^> sorry.
[08:22] <TheCr0w^> no, you need to boot from the livecd, and get a root terminal.
[08:23] <simon87> He's checking the actual media, i started It lol
[08:23] <simon87> In going to reboot
[08:23] <simon87> it*
[08:24] <TheCr0w^> I think you can cancel it
[08:24] <TheCr0w^> or yes, just reboot, and boot the livecd.
[08:25] <simon87> Yes, i did it; now im going to get root terminal
[08:25] <simon87> I got It
[08:25] <TheCr0w^> ok
[08:25] <TheCr0w^> e2fsck -f /dev/sda2
[08:27] <simon87> Ok done, fixed all errors
[08:28] <simon87> Now i have to update the kernel??
[08:29] <TheCr0w^> reboot
[08:30] <TheCr0w^> but, yes, I would recommend, apply all updates.
[08:33] <simon87> Ok, ill do it, thank you for all of this. Ill be back with the logs if the error will occur again. Thanks
[08:33] <TheCr0w^> no problem, good luck.
[09:00] <ZaZaGX> hi
[09:04] <auctus> in older ubuntus it was always easy to click the network thing and then choose "share" or "link local" or whatever, in 18 i cant find any of that
[09:04] <auctus> so i could e.g. share wifi from a laptop to a desktop, or connect to my raspberry pi without a router, etc
[10:45] <dbugger> Hello, Good morning everyone
[10:47] <dbugger> I have a weird problem. I have an SSD in my PC with Windows 10. I have another one that I am using to install 19.10. No matter how many times I install it, the GRUB will never get created. When I log in it goes sirectly to Ubuntu. If I want to log into Windows, I have to do it through the BIOS. Why could this be?
[11:37] <simon87> TheCr0w^ , it's crashed again damn
[11:37] <simon87> how can i show you the last important log that can i view with ubuntu log tool?
[11:40] <simon87> usb 2-8: device descriptor read/64, error -71 , a lot of these errors; i think the crash happens for some usb 2.0 port problem; i think ill cut off that damn port
[11:45] <leden> auctus, run 'nm-connection-editor' in terminal from there you can set your network
[11:49] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:06] <simon87> these crashes begin to make me mad. damn.
[12:06] <TheCr0w^> you may have a hardware issue.
[12:08] <simon87> ok, probably is the usb port 2.0 (this laptop has two 3.0 and one 2.0); how can i disable 2.0? is there a way?
[12:10] <simon87> on that board where is the usb 2.0 there are a card reader and headphones too;can the problem be the whole board, TheCr0w^
[12:10] <simon87> ?
[12:19] <Sinistrad> simon87: When does it crash? At boot? If so, and you know it is USB, you might be able to disable in BIOS, or whatever the cool kids call it today.
[12:20] <simon87> Sinistrad, no, when it's running like after one hour or five minutes, it's the same
[12:21] <simon87> windows manager crashes and i can access to nothing in the system so i've to turn off it from the button
[12:21] <simon87> Sinistrad, so can i disable the whole board from the BIOS?
[12:22] <simon87> I dont use it, the sound card is dead too, so i dont need headphones
[12:22] <Sinistrad> simon87: For more troubleshooting, if it is only locking up your display, you might be able to have ssh open and log in from another computer and check logs to see what is going on.
[12:23] <Sinistrad> simon87: If you get ssh going and can log in remotely before the crash and not so after the crash, then you've definitely had the kernel freak out.
[12:25] <Sinistrad> simon87: My little one is calling me. Maybe that will give food for thought
[12:25] <simon87> Sinistrad, so I've to login remotely with ssh and wait until crash come up
[12:25] <Sinistrad> simon87: Well, just make sure you have ssh answering before-hand
[12:25] <Sinistrad> simon87: Not saying you have to keep it connected =)
[12:26] <Sinistrad> simon87: After the crash, log in if you can, then poke around in /var/log to see if anything is obvious.
[12:26] <simon87> okok i got it
[12:27] <Sinistrad> simon87: If it is only the display, maybe Xorg logs could give you some clues as to why the display locked up
[12:27] <simon87> thank you
[12:27] <Sinistrad> simon87: You're welcome. I hope it helps
[12:28] <simon87> I hope too :)  see you l8r
[12:32] <baqir> how to add pppoe network
[12:43] <baqir> anyone to help?
[12:45] <baqir> how to add pppoe connection?
[12:49] <Sinistrad> baqir: Here is something that I found: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[12:50] <Sinistrad> baqir: Report back if that article is not helpful.
[13:05] <lenny_lemon> after upgrading to ubuntu 18.04 I noticed increased temperature in processor...
[13:14] <telboon> anyone else facing issues where certain Wifi network doesn't show their encryption on KDE Network Manager?
[13:21] <telboon> the same SSID shows their wifi security on nmcli, but not nmgui through KDE
[14:02] <UndefinedIsNotAF> Hi
[14:17] <Ignacy> I'm trying to configure postfix to use a password hash (.db file) to authenticate with 3rd party smpt provider. I've looked at hash created with postmap command, and except for hash it still contains cleartext password at the end of the hash. Is that supposed to be like that? If someone is to get root access to the machine he can still read my 3rd party mail provider password.
[14:27] <ryuo> Ignacy: ... password hashs don't work when you have to provide the password to an external party for authentication purposes.
[14:27] <ryuo> Ignacy: they're only good for when you only need to store them for your authentication purposes.
[14:28] <ryuo> Ignacy: welcome to the limitations of encyption.
[14:29] <ryuo> automated tools rarely have a good way to store authentication secrets; you usually have to store them in a secure manner but can't eliminate disclosure entirely.
[14:29] <ryuo> usually this means putting them in a file that most cannot access.
[14:29] <ryuo> not storing it in revision control system
[14:29] <ryuo> etc
[14:36] <Ignacy> thank you ryuo. Now I understand. The password hash has mode 0600, while other files in postfix directory are 644. I was thinking about it since yesterday :D
[14:36] <rdrey> hey everyone. I'm experimenting with building an ubuntu kernel with patches. Is this still the best page in the docs? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel I'm running an Ubuntu Fossa daily build that's a day or two old.
[14:36] <leftyfb> !ubuntu+1 rdrey
[14:37] <leftyfb> !ubuntu+1 | rdrey
[14:37] <rdrey> ah, thanks
[14:37] <rdrey> will move over there
[14:39] <raidghost> ioria: The graphical card issue is back.
[14:41] <raidghost> I did some rsync and did let the laptop stay on over night. and the annyoing ugly screencolor did welcome me. It was a less happy moment.
[15:40] <gyuma1etyr> hi! I have 18.04 LTS
[15:40] <gyuma1etyr> Python3 is installed by default
[15:40] <gyuma1etyr> Is python2.7 also installed?
[15:41] <gyuma1etyr> (by default, after install)?
[15:42] <gyuma1etyr> I don't need it, but was just curious if Python2 is still installed or not
[15:50] <gyuma1etyr> anyone an idea?
[15:51] <bindi> did you try the command "python2"
[15:51] <bindi> or 'dpkg -l | grep python' to get the list of installed packages matching python
[15:53] <gyuma1etyr> bindi, i tried python2 but working
[15:53] <gyuma1etyr> so i thought it's not installed
[15:53] <gyuma1etyr> but this seems strange as of 2018
[15:53] <gyuma1etyr> even nowadays debian 10 still has py2.7 has requirement...
[15:53] <rajivmars>  today after installing ubuntu, i was trying to install ubuntu-restricted-extras, but while installing corefonts it displays thjis error https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Hs5fX2nqww/
[15:53] <gyuma1etyr> bindi, i tried python2 but *not* working
[15:54] <gyuma1etyr> so what do you think bindi?
[15:54] <rajivmars> how do i solve this. i need ms corefonts for my project.
[15:55] <bindi> gyuma1etyr: if you were just curious, i gave the tools to fulfill your curiosity :P
[15:55] <bindi> they're getting rid of python2 bit by bit
[15:57] <gyuma1etyr> bindi, dkpg -l |grep python shows only libpython2.7 and such things
[15:57] <gyuma1etyr> but not python2 python2.7
[15:57] <gyuma1etyr> so only some libs are insalled but not the actual python2 inerpreter i think?
[15:57] <bindi> probably compatibility stuff
[15:58] <martiansoul> Hi. Does anyone know of any channel on IRC where I can ask theoretical Object oriented programming questions?
[15:59] <bindi> martiansoul: try /msg alis list
[15:59] <bindi> martiansoul: actually /msg alis help list
[16:01] <martiansoul> bindi: thanks!
[16:02] <explore> thanks for all the help guys!
[16:16] <ioria> gyuma1etyr, python2.7 is included in the iso, but removed after the installation; you can check the 18.04 release notes : 'Python 2 is no longer installed by default. Python 3 has been updated to 3.6. This is the last LTS release to include Python 2 in main.'
[16:16] <gyuma1etyr> ioria, good news!
[16:16] <gyuma1etyr> it will force me to move on to py3 now ;)
[16:17] <ioria> gyuma1etyr, ok, python2.7 is still present in the 18.04 repo
[16:19] <rajivmars> anyone please.
[16:20] <ioria> rajivmars, i guess you need to wait some time and try again or install manually the .deb
[16:21] <rajivmars> ok
[16:56] <martiansoul> what is udp echo port?
[17:03] <Fuchs> martiansoul: 7, as with tcp
[17:04] <martiansoul> Fuchs: i meant the theory of it. I couldn't really understand it reading on wikipedia
[17:04] <Fuchs> martiansoul: to echo back exactly what you are sending it
[17:05] <Fuchs> it's mostly meant for tests
[17:05] <Fuchs> e.g. if you think that something might modify or drop some of your packets on the way to wherever that echo service is running
[17:06] <Fuchs> how did you stumble upon it / why the question?
[17:06] <Fuchs> (tl;dr: if you don't know what it is, you most likely don't want / need it)
[17:07] <bindi> and probably not at all related to #ubuntu
[17:08] <martiansoul> Fuchs: I was reading a research paper on caching.
[17:08] <Fuchs> maybe they have an ubuntu box with it enabled or want to enable it
[17:08] <Fuchs> oh, okay, then you probably want ##networking
[17:08] <martiansoul> Fuchs: Okay. Thanks!
[17:08] <Fuchs> you're welcome :)
[17:16] <gijoe3k> Hello there. Quick question, I realize that is could be strictly a Xubuntu thing(appreciate your patience) but......just got a fresh install of Xubuntu 19.10 done. Did a Apt update...all the other repos updated fine except this one:
[17:16] <gijoe3k> Err:1 http://mirrors.xtom.com/ubuntu eoan InRelease Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NOSPLIT' (does the network require authentication?)
[17:17] <gijoe3k> Any direction or ideas on how to get rid of it?
[17:36] <leden> qijoe3k, cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:46] <leden> qijoe3k, cat and paste url that will generate
[17:47] <gijoe3k> 10/4
[17:52] <gijoe3k> https://termbin.com/zjao
[18:08] <ptux> hi all. i've a 2nd hd installed on my pc. it seems to be mounted in ro mode, but i cannot find it in /etc/fstab.
[18:09] <ptux> i would like to know how to mount it at the boot in rw mode, in a chosen mountpoint (actualiy it is: /media/ptux/<averylongstring>)
[18:11] <pragmaticenigma> ptux, when you add a new drive, you have to manually add it to fstab with the mount instructions
[18:12] <ptux> pragmaticenigma, but does it mantains the setting on reboot or it is overwritten?
[18:14] <pragmaticenigma> ptux, /etc/fstab is a configuration file. It does not automatically change
[18:19] <leden> qijoe3k, find Settings Manager → Software & Updates and follow steps https://i.stack.imgur.com/gI5Jp.jpg
[18:20] <ptux> pragmaticenigma, so could be right add in fstab: /dev/sdb1 /mnt/storage ext4 defaults,utf8,umask=0087,gid=64?
[18:22] <ptux> *umask=007
[18:24] <leden> qijoe3k, you need to select another mirror
[18:25] <gijoe3k> @leden, gotcha. much appreciated. Will do it here in a minute.
[19:02] <akk> Does ubuntu not have a package for unetbootin? (19.10)
[19:04] <pragmaticenigma> unetbootin is not recommended anymore akk
[19:05] <akk> No? I want to make a bootable FreeDOS stick and have seen a couple recommendations that unetbootin is the easiest way.
[19:05] <akk> Is there a better way?
[19:05] <akk> (I need to install a firmware update from lenovo ... I've been struggling with this for three solid days, I'm getting desperate to find a way)
[19:07] <pragmaticenigma> akk, unetbootin is not provided in the official repos. You can obtain it from a 3rd party maintained repo
[19:07] <pragmaticenigma> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Unetbootin
[19:07] <pragmaticenigma> https://launchpad.net/~gezakovacs/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[19:08] <akk> Thanks, pragmaticenigma
[19:09] <pragmaticenigma> akk, I do note that the official documentation does mention unetbootin... I might be confusing it with a different tool. Personally I use etcher.io, but that a topic for another time. I wish you luck with your BIOS update
[19:10] <akk> Thanks! Supposedly unetbootin knows where to download freedos images ... the freedos site itself only has installer images, not runnable ones.
[19:10] <akk> I confess to being skeptical that freedos will be enough to run this installer, but it's worth a try.
[19:11] <pragmaticenigma> akk, freedos is continuously updated. the firmware updaters like that typically just need a DOS environment to execute their binary, after that the application goes into a lower level mode to access what it needs directly
[19:13] <akk> I hope! I tried several minimal windows things, like booting from a win 10 installer, and kept getting messages like "the image file is valid, but is for a machine type other than the current machine".
[19:13] <akk> It's supposedly a 64-bit windows binary but I haven't found any way on Linux to check that.
[19:14] <Ben64> have you tried 'file'
[19:14] <akk> So far unetbootin isn't looking promising, it doesn't run, X errors (probably related to having to run as root).
[19:15] <slrplx> Heya. I am unsuccesfully trying to set my ultrawide 34" Iiyama monitor to its native 3440x1440 resolution. It's plugged into a recent Lenovo X1 Carbon via HDMI. `hwinfo --monitor` recognizes the monitor and confirms that 3440x1440 is its maximum resolution. How do I proceed?
[19:15] <pragmaticenigma> Ben64, can you expand on that idea?
[19:15] <Ben64> it's a command. file <file>
[19:15] <Ben64> tells you about said file
[19:15] <pragmaticenigma> Ben64, I don't see how that would help here
 It's supposedly a 64-bit windows binary but I haven't found any way on Linux to check that.
[19:18] <akk> Ben64, n2hgc06w.exe: PE32 executable (GUI) Intel 80386, for MS Windows -- does the PE32 mean it's 32-bit, not 64?
[19:20] <akk> I did run file earlier, but I don't know how to read that line, file is much clearer with Linux apps about whether they're 32- or 64-bit.
[19:21] <Ben64> 80386 means 32bit
[19:21] <akk> Ah! Interesting, so lenovo is fibbing about it being for 64-bit. That may explain some of the things I tried that didn't work.
[19:21] <Ben64> well anything that can run 64bit windows stuff can also run 32bit
[19:22] <akk> Except the windows installer, turns out. :)
[19:22] <Ben64> the installer can't really run things
[19:23] <akk> Oh well, have to run off for a bit, will have to fight with unetbootin later. Thanks for the info, Ben64 and pragmaticenigma!
[19:49] <albech> Hi all. Struggling a little with having rclone ignore lost+found, cause syncs fail when trying to sync and that file is present in the folder. I have tried to use the filters, but no luck.
[19:52] <albech> it works if running as root, since root obviously can read lost+found, but i am not planning on running rclone as root for my purpose. Could move all my files to a sub-folder, but its more like a workaround.
[19:56] <ioria> albech, i don't use rclone, but the filter should work ; what's the exact cmd issued ?
[19:58] <_Sean_> hi all - sorry for google worthy question but my google is failing tonight-  trying to remember how to prompt for hostname input (ie.  NOT string) in a preseed and I am failing hard (18.04 dell re-jigged install/recovery)
[20:01] <slrplx> What would be a good place to ask my previous question about ultrawide monitor resolution in Ubuntu?
[20:02] <guntbert> slrplx: this channel is a good place for that question - just maybe not right now :-)
[20:04] <slrplx> Roger, I'll ask again later
[20:24] <_Sean_> anyone here ever preseed
[20:25] <gunix_> _Seen_: just exactly I'm look for it :)
[20:26] <_Sean_> I think thanks, not exactly sure what ye mean :)
[20:26] <gunix_> I found some stuff in Turkish. https://farukomercakmak.gitlab.io/post/2019-09-18-pardus-preseed-iso-olusturma/
[20:26] <_Sean_> perfect, checking it out now :)
[20:26] <_Sean_> thank you
[20:26] <gunix_> np
[20:27] <_Sean_> in there - hostname is still string and seen - where do you see the variable for human input?
[20:28] <slrplx> Heya. I am unsuccesfully trying to set my ultrawide 34" Iiyama monitor to its native 3440x1440 resolution. It's plugged into a recent Lenovo X1 Carbon via HDMI. `hwinfo --monitor` recognizes the monitor and confirms that 3440x1440 is its maximum resolution. How do I proceed?
[20:30] <oerheks> hidpi screens want DP displayport, hdmi is too slow?
[20:31] <slrplx> Possibly
[20:31] <ioria> _Sean_, but old thread  : https://askubuntu.com/questions/111727/how-do-i-get-prompted-for-a-hostname-in-a-preseed
[20:32] <_Sean_> heh, i am gonna kick something if it was that easy
[20:32] <_Sean_> thanks ioria - will muck with a new iso tomorrow and give that a try
[20:32] <ioria> ok
[20:37] <slrplx> oerheks, the monitor works
[20:37] <gunix_> is it possible to add any .deb package with preseed? Just an example: I want to install "pale moon" browser in os installation progress.
[20:38] <slrplx> At a respectable 2560x1440
[20:38] <slrplx> Could 3440x1440 really be a problem in this setup?
[20:39] <oerheks> slrplx, with DP it should fully work.
[20:39] <oerheks> go check the vendor
[20:43] <slrplx> vendor says: HDMI & Display Port: 3440 x 1440 @48-75Hz
[20:44] <_Sean_> gunix_: I think you are looknig for 'ubiquity ubiquity/success_command'   from my limited smashing of stuff that deprecated preseed/late_command
[20:44] <oerheks> slrplx, grinn, your vendor hides the truth, seen that before
[20:46] <slrplx> Naughty vendor
[20:46] <slrplx> Anything I can attempt?
[20:47] <albech> ioria: rclone -P --include "backup-SQL-*" --exclude "lost*" sync /var/bareos-storage/ wasabi:bucket-name - getting: ERROR : lost+found: error reading source directory: failed to open directory "lost+found": open /var/bareos-storage/lost+found: permission denied
[20:47] <ioria> albech, try --exclude “/lost+found/**”
[20:47] <albech> ioria: tried with escaping lost\+found also.. same problem..
[20:47] <oerheks> HDMI 1.4 supports up to 2560x1440 using at 60hrz, *maybe* at lower 30hrz it works, but i guess you need DP
[20:48] <oerheks> good luck!
[20:48] <ioria> albech, then, no idea
[20:50] <_Sean_> hrmpf - too good to be true, worth a try @ gunix_ - http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vNcGmkq3SP/
[20:52] <slrplx> Thanks oerheks
[20:52] <albech> anyone else have experience with rclone and how to ignore lost+found? I have tried the --ignore filter, but with no luck.
[20:53] <gunix_> Thank you @_Sean_
[20:54] <slrplx> oerheks
[20:54] <slrplx> It works at 30hz!
[20:54] <_Sean_> unfortunately didn't work
[20:54] <_Sean_> oh well
[20:57] <oerheks> slrplx, good, you are lucky!
[20:57] <oerheks> have fun
[21:00] <slrplx> Hm
[21:00] <slrplx> Also works at 40hz
[21:46] <pragmaticenigma> albech, the --exclude only works for files, not folders
[21:46] <pragmaticenigma> albech, The documentation also mentions you should not use --include and --exclude
[21:46] <pragmaticenigma> at the same time
[22:15] <martiansoul> Hi. I want to start reading the code of linux kernel. but for now, i would prefer a small snippet. could anyone guide me for the same?
[22:17] <jeremy31> martiansoul: have at the Linux kernel tree source https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/?h=v5.4-rc8
[22:18] <martiansoul> jeremy31: how should i proceed with reading it?
[22:18] <jeremy31> martiansoul: if you want to look at Intel wifi source code. go to /drivers/net/wireless/intel/iwlwifi
[22:28] <gyuma1etyr> Hi
[22:28] <gyuma1etyr> How to disable internet for one particular user?
[22:28] <gyuma1etyr> I'm using 18.04 LTS
[22:32] <gyuma1etyr> anyone an idea?
[22:37] <radkos> hello I'm having curlftpfs installed and configured but It seems curlftfs can't modify a file in-realtime
[22:38] <radkos> I'm trying to directly download file to it - no luck I believe I'm having the right permissions - the dbg message i recieve is
[22:38] <radkos> ftpfs: operation ftpfs_open failed because Operation not supported
[22:59] <Eduard_Munteanu> radkos, what protocol?
[23:02] <radkos> Eduard_Munteanu, torrent
[23:02] <Eduard_Munteanu> radkos, that's strange, do you mean you mounted a torrent URL using curlftpfs?
[23:03] <Eduard_Munteanu> Because I don't think that's supposed to be r/w.
[23:06] <radkos> Eduard_Munteanu, no I've set the mounted point with curlftpfs as a torrent's download destination
[23:11] <Guest_39> hi
[23:12] <SayurNaraSayo> hi
[23:12] <SayurNaraSayo> anyone here?
[23:13] <Bashing-om> !ask | SayurNaraSayo
[23:13] <oerheks> :-)
[23:14] <Eduard_Munteanu> radkos, and what protocol is curlftpfs using?
[23:15] <SayurNaraSayo> can i know where is the channel?
[23:16] <SayurNaraSayo> !patience
[23:16] <Eduard_Munteanu> SayurNaraSayo, what do you mean? This is the channel, and there are 1139 people lurking in here right now.
[23:18] <SayurNaraSayo> im looking for ubuntu chitchat old style where all people can chat..
[23:18] <Bashing-om> !ot | SayurNaraSayo
[23:19] <SayurNaraSayo> oh got it. thanks.
[23:19] <SayurNaraSayo>  /msg ubottu !register
[23:19] <Bashing-om> SayurNaraSayo: :) Help is what we do .
[23:20] <Eduard_Munteanu> You can also send ubottu private messages. That's what /msg ubottu is about, it's an IRC command.