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sergiusensrobert_ancell_: common-id is used as the index to find the right appstream components, so using appstream to find common-ids and set them seems like going the other way around from the original design01:56
sergiusenssnaps can have multiple apps, thus multiple common-id's thus multiple appstream files within01:56
robert_ancellsergiusens, and the appstream components are used to populate the .desktop file information in the snapcraft YAML?01:57
sergiusensrobert_ancell: the desktop file referenced in appstream is used to set meta/gui/<snap-name>.<app-name>.desktop02:53
robert_ancellsergiusens, I see why it would be weird to do it the other way.02:54
jibelhi everyone05:37
fidenciojibel: morning! :-)06:24
jibelhi fidencio06:26
jibelfidencio, thanks for digging06:26
jibelthe compression method would explain why I didn't have the issue06:26
fidenciojibel: what I don't understand is which component may have regressed06:30
fidenciojibel: as kernel still has support for GZIP06:31
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:50
didrocksgood morning07:11
oSoMoNsalut didrocks07:22
didrocksça va oSoMoN ?07:25
marcustomlinsonmorning jibel fidencio oSoMoN and didrocks07:34
didrockshey marcustomlinson07:37
fidenciomarcustomlinson: morning!07:48
didrocksmorning fidencio07:49
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tjaaltonjbicha: will you package new libepoxy? I'm wondering if it should be moved under xorg-team at salsa08:06
jibelfidencio, how to you unpack the initrd?08:20
didrockssalut jibel08:25
jibelsalut didrocks, ça va?08:26
seb128lut didrocks jibel08:26
seb128hey tjaalton08:26
seb128good morning desktopers08:27
tjaaltonyo08:27
jibelfidencio, so in summary your preseed is still good with eoan and focal, it works when injected on the iso or initrd. The compression method must be lz408:27
jibelfidencio, also I realized that unmkinitramfs strips / from symlinks and the initrd rebuilt directly from main/ doesn't work. I'll have a look at it.08:28
fidenciojibel: I'm not sure how virt-manager does the unpack. But yes, the summary is right. The thing to keep in mind is that it seems to be a regression, as net-install and server install work without any issue when using gzip08:29
didrockssalut seb12808:30
didrocksjibel: les sinus bien pris, mais sinon ça va08:30
jibelsalut seb12808:33
oSoMoNdidrocks, bien mieux dormi que la nuit précédente, donc ça va bien, et toi?08:45
oSoMoNgood morning marcustomlinson08:45
oSoMoNsalut seb12808:45
oSoMoNhey tjaalton08:45
didrocksoSoMoN: bien pris des sinus, vivement que ça s'améliore :) cool que tu ais pu récupérer08:46
oSoMoNvivement le printemps :)08:47
seb128lut oSoMoN, en forme ? la nuit a été meilleure ?08:47
seb128ah, tu viens de le dire :)08:47
oSoMoNbien meilleure, en effet!08:47
seb128vivement le printemps et vivement que les gosses aient 18 ans et arrête de ramener des rhumes de la crèche ? ;)08:48
oSoMoNoui, ça aussi08:48
oSoMoNwhy do people use PPAs that are advertised for testing purposes only and then send me rude e-mails to complain about broken packages and to demand a fix?08:49
didrocksbecause they don't read the warnings?08:50
oSoMoNwell they should learn to read then08:50
jibelseb128, à 18 ans ils ramèneront des trucs bien pires que des rhumes ;)08:50
seb128:-(08:50
Laneyyo09:03
seb128hey Laney marcustomlinson Wimpress, how are you today?09:17
Laneyhey seb12809:24
Laneydoing ok!09:24
Laneyhoping it stops raining though :(09:25
Laneyyou?09:25
didrockshey Laney!09:25
seb128I'm good, got rained on while dropping the kid to the childcare earlier but it stopped now09:26
seb128I've wet feet now though :(09:26
seb128marcustomlinson, I see that libreoffice is building still on some archs, looks like it go retried? what was the error?09:27
marcustomlinsonseb128: there was line after line of "waiting for proxy" for 9 hours or somthing so I cancelled09:31
marcustomlinsonalso hey :)09:32
marcustomlinsonand hey Wimpress and Laney09:32
seb128Laney, tweaking the board :)09:34
Laneyhaha09:35
LaneyI forgot again that those are shared09:35
Laneybecause it was on the default colour09:35
Laneyhey marcustomlinson09:35
oSoMoNmorning Laney09:59
seb128Laney, feel free to pick a background, I tried a few but that was not great to I went back to picking a color yesterday10:03
Laneyok, next time I'm on there ;-)10:03
Laneyo/ oSoMoN10:03
oSoMoNseb128, jsunit 0.2.2-1~ubuntu0.18.04.1 is still lingering in bionic-proposed while all the related deps (thunderbird 68 and enigmail) have migrated, I guess because it's new in bionic, is this something you can help with?10:10
seb128oSoMoN, I think you need a SRU team member, according to the wiki it's rbasak's day today so try pinging him (well, I just did for you now ;)10:12
oSoMoN:)10:12
seb128oSoMoN, sorry, more work for you, but firefox 71/focal made autopkgtest sad10:21
seb128oSoMoN, https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-focal/focal/amd64/f/firefox/20191127_082713_a9c66@/log.gz10:22
tjaaltonjbicha: I filed an ITA bug to move libepoxy under xorg-team10:22
seb128(same on other archs, so at least it's not a weird non-standard-arch issue)10:22
oSoMoNseb128, I know, the html5test script needs to be updated, I'll do that today10:33
Laneyhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~laney/segv.webm12:04
Laneywe came up with a cool way to fix that bug12:04
seb128Laney, wooot :)12:05
seb128going to make didrocks (& probably others) happy :)12:05
seb128Laney, just curious, what's the cool way?12:07
Laneymoving them out of the gnome-shell scope to a dedicated one12:09
Laneymainly benzea's idea12:09
Laneyneed to make sure there isn't any weird corner case here12:09
didrocks\o/12:10
seb128ah, nice12:11
* seb128 reads the systemd.scope documentation just to learn a bit more about it :-)12:11
Laneyif you do systemd-run --user --scope firefox12:14
Laneythat's basically the same thing12:14
seb128I see, cool :)12:16
seb128nothing to do with that, and maybe a stupid question, but how does gbp import-orig knows which remote/branch to use to update the upstream branch?12:17
Laneyit gets the version number from the tarball12:20
Laneyand then finds a tag for that version12:20
Laneyyou can configure the mapping using upstream-vcs-tag in the gbp.conf, some pkgs do that already12:22
seb128ah, right, tag!12:22
seb128right, I had to do that when they use a non standard naming12:22
seb128I was just wondering if the naming of my upstream remote matters12:22
Laneynah12:23
seb128it doesn't, the question just show I still struggle at time to understand how git works being the curtain :p12:23
seb128thx for the reply, makes sense now that you pointed out that it matches the tag12:23
Laney👍12:26
seb128Laney, yet another topic ... :p when you have some slot, can you make cards as you see fit for the oem ubiquity/kernel work we should own?12:32
Laneyyeah, but in my head we need to nail down who is doing what first12:32
seb128right, that's fine12:33
seb128thx12:33
seb128mdeslaur, hey, thanks for merging dbus!14:36
mdeslaurseb128: np!14:36
Laneyah yeah15:08
Laneywe should schedule getting rid of GetConnectionAppArmorSecurityContext15:08
Laneywonder where I can store such ideas to be put on future cycle plans15:13
Laneyproposed column?15:14
Laneythen triage that at start of each cycle?15:14
seb128Laney, or a card in the proposed column of trello?15:15
Laneyindeed15:15
seb128what's going on with that libreoffice/amd64 build16:26
seb128the build log is stucked on "cleaning up" for a while now16:26
seb128https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/1:6.3.3-0ubuntu2/+build/1816452616:26
seb128marcustomlinson, don't kill/restart it in any case please16:27
seb128or it's still in the packaging, is that step taking a while?16:28
marcustomlinsonI think you just happened to look at it at a slow point16:28
marcustomlinsonwatched pot you know ;)16:28
seb128k, good :)16:28
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* ricotz waves goodbye to i38618:00
oSoMoNheh, I was looking at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/71.0+build2-0ubuntu2, and at first I thought "there's something missing", only to realize it was the i386 build :)18:06
ricotzsame here ;)18:08
marcustomlinsonoh that happened today?18:09
oSoMoNI noticed today, but I suppose focal never included i386 builds18:20
oSoMoNactually I'm wrong, it must have happened today, as https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/71.0+build2-0ubuntu1 has an i386 build18:21
marcustomlinsonRIP18:26
ppd1990oSoMoN: Hi. A quick question, if I may: The chromium vaapi track is gone for good, isn't it?18:30
oSoMoNppd1990, you may :) it's gone, but I have an item on my to-do list to resurrect it, test it and merge the patch in the stable branch18:32
ppd1990ah, great to hear. I'm looking forward to it!18:35
marcustomlinsonseb128: libreoffice finally finished building21:12
robert_ancellkenvandine, feaneron is asking about the gnome-calendar snap showing "Canonical" as the in the store page. And also it not being the latest version. What's the state on that?21:17
robert_ancellhellsworth, actually, not sure if you know anything about the gnome-calendar snap?21:23
robert_ancellIt looks like it was one of the older snaps that was made and hasn't been updated to automatically build.21:23
marcustomlinsonrobert_ancell: well it looks like it has been built recently (I assume for security reasons), just not updated to build the latest version21:31
marcustomlinsonthe snapcraft.yaml is specifically pointing at source-tag: 3.30.021:32
feanerondoes ubuntu ship GNOME Calendar through snap by default?21:34
robert_ancellfeaneron, no21:35
feanerondoes Ubuntu Store prefer the snap version of Calendar when installing or searching?21:36
robert_ancellfeaneron, the snap version shows earlier in the searches.21:37
feaneron:(21:38
feaneronit's not as terrible as it could be, but it's not ideal either21:39
robert_ancellI don't see any reason why it shouldn't be 3.34, other than it was probably one of the test case snaps and hasn't been updated.21:40
robert_ancellmarcustomlinson, was it using the current platform snap stuff?21:41
marcustomlinsonIt's currently using the gnome-3-28 platform21:41
kenvandineEDS versions, I think21:42
robert_ancellaha21:42
kenvandineWe're working on getting GNOME as a publisher in the store as well21:43
kenvandineThe problem is compatibility with the host version of EDS for bionic and other supported releases21:44
kenvandineI'll make sure we get it updated over the next few weeks21:44
robert_ancellfeaneron, what does the calendar flatpak do for eds compatibility? Just not work on older releases?21:45
kenvandineAnd if we can get the yaml merged upstream we can get an autobuild setup as well21:45
kenvandineIt runs it's own daemon in the sandbox21:45
feaneronRight now, nothing; this EDS transition is being really painful21:46
kenvandineThat's our holdup21:46
feaneronI would like to add a runtime check to see if the newer EDS D-Bus interfaces are available, but that would require a string freeze exception21:46
kenvandineWe want it to work with EDS in 18.0421:47
marcustomlinsonthat's quite a doozy21:47
feaneronkenvandine: running the daemon inside the sandbox turns out to be... bad. Sandbox EDS doesn't communicate Host EDS, and it looses all platform integration21:47
feaneronthat's what the development Flatpak of Calendar used to do, and it's really annoying21:48
kenvandineRight21:48
kenvandineWhich is why I stopped updating the snap21:48
kenvandinefeaneron: I'm open to suggestions :-)21:49
feaneronMe too. I just can't find a solution where we win this fight.21:50
kenvandine:-\21:50
feaneronBeyond, of course, make Calendar not use EDS at all21:50
feaneronwhich also means loosing all platform integration21:50
kenvandinefeaneron:  I'll see if jamesh might have ideas21:50
kenvandineLosing platform integration would suck21:51
seb128marcustomlinson, thx, seems like it picked the slowest buildd or something!22:23
marcustomlinsonyeah crazy slow22:24
ahayzenif EDS could talk multiple versions of it's api/protocol then the client and server could meet at a common level, but i guess this would be tricky to implement.  This seems like a major problem that snaps/flatpak need to figure out as the same appears to happen for other things like tracker and online accounts etc ?22:37
robert_ancellahayzen, the traditional distribution model has meant that user services have trended to having very dynamic APIs. That has to change in the sandboxed app future.22:46
robert_ancellSystem services are generally better done.22:46
ahayzenrobert_ancell, but if the system service supported version 2 of the API, and then the client supported version 1,2,3 they could meet with version 2, and the same the other way around.  But yeah services need a more stable interface, i wonder if some of these things almost warrant a portal to exchange the data in a common way to/from the system22:50
robert_ancellahayzen, I guess portals will abstract away some of the simpler cases, but the more complex stuff like EDS will be harder.22:51
ahayzenrobert_ancell, hey, random other question, i was trying to hack on the gnome software snap plugin earlier, and i tried building gnome software master on fedora 31. But whenever i tried to open a snap in the store it would crash, is this expected that things are broken on master, as i know ubuntu has an old gnome software or maybe i built it wrong?22:57
robert_ancellahayzen, no, that's not expected - do you have a backtrace?22:58
robert_ancellI'll spin up my F31 VM and try building it there.22:58
ahayzenrobert_ancell, i can get one :-)23:01
* ahayzen spins up VM23:01
ahayzenrobert_ancell, if i click on Ardour from the start page, this happens https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/YSCHgxNHgk/  ... but if i click on some others it doesn't crash (like Kotlin)23:08
robert_ancellInteresting (in a bad way)23:08
ahayzen:-)23:09
robert_ancellIt might be a threading issue, but if I can easily reproduce that is useful.23:09
robert_ancellI've seen similar issues before in crash reports, but not been able to reproduce.23:09
* robert_ancell is dnf installing dependencies...23:10
ahayzenthis is a KVM VM with 2 CPUs and 3096 MB RAM for reference23:10
robert_ancellah, good. We're both on VMs.23:11
robert_ancellahayzen, I only give my VMs 2048 MB :)23:13
ahayzenhehe i usually do as well, but as i was building stuff i thought i'd give it more :-)23:14
robert_ancellThough I just updated my laptop from 8GB to 16GB, so I now have some more RAM for hungry VMs23:14
robert_ancellahayzen, https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/merge_requests/37223:59
gitbotGNOME issue (Merge request) 372 in gnome-software "snap: Don't try to get alternatives for non-snaps" [Opened]23:59
robert_ancellThanks for letting me know!23:59

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