[00:11] <mike802> hi all, i'm trying to configure wordpress in my lamp stack and i'm getting the following error in my browser:  Error establishing a database connection
[00:12] <oerheks>  what wordpress guide do you follow?
[00:12] <mike802> using the ubuntu server guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/wordpress.html, i'm having an issue with the line IDENTIFIED BY 'yourpasswordhere';
[00:12] <mike802> it just says ERROR 1064 (42000) at line 1: You have an error in your SQL syntax;
[00:18] <oerheks> i find lots of simular answers, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1029177/error-1698-28000-access-denied-for-user-rootlocalhost-at-ubuntu-18-04
[00:19] <oerheks> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/36099028/error-1064-42000-you-have-an-error-in-your-sql-syntax-want-to-configure-a-pa/56845711
[00:24] <mike802> so, technically this is a GRANT statement, would FOR replace the TO statement?
[00:25] <mike802> sorry, just kinda skimming through the wp section...
[00:29] <oerheks> i would look at other guides like https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-wordpress-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux or https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-wordpress-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[00:30] <oerheks> and some hardening guides, https://cloudsecuritylife.com/host-server-hardening-complete-wordpress-hardening-guide-part-1/
[00:30] <tomreyn> my imporession is that the right way to fix this is to either provide an authentication socket for the wordpress user if its accessing a local database server or to have the mysql client (i.e. PHP) specify that it is intending to authenticate via mysql_native_password
[00:31] <oerheks> yes, the ubuntu wiki is not complete
[00:31] <mike802> well, the ubuntu site doesn't actually mention creating a 'wordpress' user....
[00:31] <mike802> i had to just assume that part
[00:32] <sarnold> mike802: do be careful with wordpress, no one has asked us to sponsor an update for wordpress in a very long time https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/wordpress.html
[00:35] <oerheks> i think the WP hardening part gives you enough info, also see server hardening
[00:37] <ryuo> oerheks: yea, you pretty much have to be warey of anything not supported officially.
[00:37] <ryuo> some packages are fine like that but many aren't.
[00:37] <oerheks> indeed, it is all about the plugins
[00:37] <ryuo> e.g., third party web servers.
[00:38] <ryuo> i presume i have to maintain those myself since there's no support guarantee for them.
[00:40] <mike802> ok, so grant all worked without an error, but my browser still says can't connect to db...
[00:41] <mike802> it says there's a problem with wp-config.php, but all the info matches my user info...
[00:43] <pragmaticenigma> mike802: Are you connecting via socket or IP address?
[00:44] <mike802> via local ip...
[00:44] <pragmaticenigma> mike802: since I missed the previous part of the conversation, how did you connect to enable the permissions?
[00:47] <mike802> ok awesome
[00:47] <mike802> i just had an issue with the sha256
[00:47] <mike802> thank you!!!!
[00:58] <MyWay> I have tried creating a new user and gdm login works, but on my user it doesn't, can I delete something to let it recreate its files, just to try or if you have any ideas on what the problem could be
[01:00] <tomreyn> universe/web
[01:00] <tomreyn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ#Standard_Support
[01:00] <tomreyn> oops, sorry, please ignore
[01:01] <pragmaticenigma> MyWay: You mean you can't access the new user's home directory?
[01:01] <MyWay> no, with the old user I can't login at boot (unless I kill Xorg)
[01:01] <MyWay> with the new it's working
[01:01] <MyWay> same problem with sound
[01:02] <tomreyn> !xauthority | MyWay
[01:03] <tomreyn> this is just one of several possible causes. reviewing your logs should hint on what's really wrong.
[01:03] <MyWay> what logs should I check?
[01:03] <MyWay> I couldn't find any hint
[01:03] <MyWay> and if the problem was .Xauthority then why after killing Xorg login with gdm it's working
[01:05] <pragmaticenigma> MyWay: .Xauthority lives while x server is live and a session is live. When you kill x server with "systemctl restart" it cleans up those files before killing the service
[01:05] <tomreyn> journalctl -b     then look for the end of the first block of "/usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session" lines, this is where gdm3 is killed after you have entered credentials and a new X session is spawned for the desktop environment you logged into.
[01:06] <MyWay> tried the .Xauthority solution, but still nothing
[01:09] <MyWay> tomreyn: https://pastebin.com/FQEfVR7d
[01:10] <MyWay> maybe this is the problem? /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nouveau_drv.so
[01:10] <MyWay> I'm using nvidia drivers
[01:13] <tomreyn> MyWay: your x server is using "nouveau", not "nvidia"
[01:14] <MyWay> uhm why
[01:14] <tomreyn> more logs could possibly tell. journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[01:15] <MyWay> https://termbin.com/5j021
[01:15] <MyWay> I have tried disabling these drivers
[01:15] <MyWay> but still can't login
[01:19] <tomreyn> is this ubuntu 19.10 then?
[01:19] <sarnold> MyWay: do you have the vbox guest additions installed on this machine?
[01:19] <MyWay> yes
[01:19] <MyWay> yes tomreyn
[01:20] <MyWay> ubuntu/19.10 (amd64) linux/5.3.0-23-generic
[01:20] <sarnold> try uninstalling those; I recall someone having some crazy X11 problems they couldn't track down until they removed those
[01:20] <MyWay> ok
[01:20] <sarnold> the vbox additions should only ever be used in guests, never the host
[01:20] <MyWay> I installed those from virtualbox's website to virtualbox
[01:21] <MyWay> but I'm not using on my host
[01:24] <MyWay> I'll try to remove virtualbox entirely and see what happens
[01:25] <tomreyn> i'm wondering whether this is expected?
[01:25] <tomreyn> nov 27 02:12:41 z /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session[1274]: (II) systemd-logind: got fd for /dev/dri/card0 226:0 fd 12 paused 1
[01:25] <tomreyn> nov 27 02:12:41 z /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session[1274]: (EE) Error systemd-logind returned paused fd for drm node
[01:26] <sarnold> what the heck is a paused fd?
[01:26] <tomreyn>  /dev/dri/card0 is the nvidia GTX 970
[01:27] <MyWay> oh, seems related to virtualbox
[01:30] <tomreyn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/1845801 looks similar
[01:31] <MyWay> I'm trying reinstalling virtualbox and then reboot, let's see what happens
[01:32] <MyWay> this time installing from repositories
[01:32] <sarnold> just make sure to not install the guest additions in the host :)
[01:35] <tomreyn> guest additions are packaged in ubuntu as a debian package, to be installed on VMs (only). they are also shipped with virtualbox's upstream builds in an .ISO file which is part of their virtualbox release. it is not to be mixed up with virtualbox drivers which are installed on the virtualization host.
[01:38] <tomreyn> the workaround discussed at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/1845801/comments/34 seems to be to boot with GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="" set in /etc/default/grub (after which one would need to run "sudo update-grub" once to apply these changes)
[01:39] <MyWay> I can confirm that disabling autologin works
[01:39] <MyWay> thanks
[01:40] <tomreyn> i suspect that setting GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet nosplash" instead would also work around it.
[01:41] <MyWay> let's try it then, where should I put this?
[01:41] <tomreyn> !kernelparm
[01:42] <tomreyn> one-time is sufficient for testing
[01:43] <MyWay> going to try with nosplash
[01:44] <tomreyn> to test whether nosplash actually helps you'd also need to re-enable automatic login
[01:46] <MyWay> yes, it's working, too
[01:46] <MyWay> thanks
[01:48] <tomreyn> MyWay: you're welcome. note these are just workarounds, though, you should probably subscribe to this bug report and provide additional input (or better file your own, then link the two)
[01:48] <MyWay> yes
[01:52] <filifunky> Hi guys, I'm trying to install in ubuntu an old version of mysql using the tarball files.  First time doing it, but can't seem to get it going.  I'm trying to follow this: https://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql-installation-excerpt/5.7/en/binary-installation.html
[01:53] <filifunky> Is that a #mysql question?
[01:54] <sarnold> maybe, it depends what broke :)
[01:54] <filifunky> sarnold lol.  Well I'm lost at the part in the "command sequence" that says bin/mysqld --initialize --user =mysql
[01:55] <filifunky> I didn't have bin/msyqld
[01:55] <filifunky> I created it but don't know what to do from there
[01:56] <sarnold> filifunky: how about bin/mysqld_safe or bin/mysql_ssl_rsa_setup? do those programs exist?
[01:56] <filifunky> sarnold:  all negative, does not exist
[01:57] <filifunky> so those are programs, not folders
[01:57] <sarnold> filifunky: hmm; these instructions appear to have been written for 5.7-era packages; just how old is the one you're trying to install?
[01:57] <filifunky> mysql 5.7.28
[01:58] <filifunky> sarnold:  when were those mysqld_safe, mysql_ssl_rsa_setup made?
[01:58] <pragmaticenigma> filifunky: how did you install? make install?
[01:58] <sarnold> filifunky: did you grab a binary tarball of precompiled stuff? or did you grab a source package that needs to be compiled?
[01:59] <filifunky> I downloaded this about a week ago: mysql-5.7.28-linux-glibc2.12-i686.tar.gz
[01:59] <filifunky> I don't really know if it is precompiled
[01:59] <sarnold> yeah that ought to be precompiled
[01:59] <filifunky> pragmaticenigma, I haven't done a make install
[02:00] <sarnold> what does tar tf mysql-5.7.28-linux-glibc2.12-i686.tar.gz | grep bin/mysqld   look like? do you see those programs in that output? or not?
[02:00] <filifunky> I pretty much just downloaded the tar file then did the tar zxvf
[02:00] <pragmaticenigma> filifunky: If you're tring to execute from the folder you extracted ... try bin/./mysqld
[02:01] <filifunky> tar tf mysql-5.7.28-linux-glibc2.12-i686 | grep bin/mysqld
[02:01] <filifunky> tar: mysql-5.7.28-linux-glibc2.12-i686: Cannot read: Is a directory
[02:01] <filifunky> tar: At beginning of tape, quitting now
[02:01] <filifunky> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[02:01] <filifunky> oh sorry
[02:01] <filifunky> did that wrong
[02:03] <filifunky> sarnold:  https://pastebin.com/Dg4DpUth
[02:03] <filifunky> so one of those files is there but not the other
[02:05] <sarnold> filifunky: alright looks good... so I wonder why those files aren't there; lets double-check, namei -l /usr/local/mysql-5.7.28-linux-glibc2.12-i686/bin/mysqld
[02:06] <filifunky> sarnold: The mysql-5.7...isn't in /usr/local
[02:07] <sarnold> alright, whatever you used for line 3 then :)
[02:07] <filifunky> ahh ok, on it!
[02:08] <filifunky> f: mysql-5.7.28-linux-glibc2.12-i686/bin/mysqld
[02:08] <filifunky> drwxr-xr-x pete pete mysql-5.7.28-linux-glibc2.12-i686
[02:08] <filifunky> drwxr-xr-x pete pete bin
[02:08] <filifunky> -rwxr-xr-x pete pete mysqld
[02:10] <sarnold> alright, now check that symlink created in line 5..
[02:11] <filifunky> cd
[02:11] <filifunky> sorry lol
[02:13] <filifunky> f: /home/pete/Documents/mysql/
[02:13] <filifunky> drwxr-xr-x root  root  /
[02:13] <filifunky> drwxr-xr-x root  root  home
[02:13] <filifunky> drwxr-xr-x pete  pete  pete
[02:13] <filifunky> drwxr-xr-x pete  pete  Documents
[02:13] <filifunky> drwx------ mysql mysql mysql
[02:14] <sarnold> interesting, line 5 was supposed to make mysql a symlink but there's a directory, and one you don't own, can't read, can't use
[02:14] <sarnold> is that intentiuonal>
[02:14] <filifunky> sarnold: not intentional
[02:14] <filifunky> at least by me
[02:15] <filifunky> yeah I've had to root into that
[02:16] <sarnold> filifunky: what's in it? is it a data directory or ..
[02:18] <filifunky> sarnold: https://pastebin.com/F80Qk0mw
[02:18] <filifunky> I think it is a data directory, but a fresh one?
[02:19] <sarnold> storing your executables near your data like this is probabl going to lead to trouble; is there a reason why you didn't use /usr/local/ for the executables as the guide suggested?
[02:20] <filifunky> no reason other than when I downloaded it I put it into my downloads file.  So when I tar zxvf I was in the downloads file
[02:20] <filifunky> should I have moved it to usr/local?
[02:21] <filifunky> so usr/local is a place for executables I take it
[02:21] <sarnold> it might be easier to follow along the guide if you're not mentally juggling where you unpacked it, where you put the data files, etc
[02:22] <filifunky> ok, I will try to undo everything I've done (trash things) and then move it to usr/local/
[02:24] <filifunky> I think this is all the time I have for today, thanks sarnold!
[02:25] <sarnold> alright, good luck and have fun filifunky :)
[04:10] <fishcooker> where is the integrity file on this https://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/ubuntu_mozilla_daily_builds/xenial/main/base/firefox-trunk
[04:14] <hggdh> fishcooker: you should ask the maintainers of this site. this is not an official repository for Ubuntu packages
[04:14] <shareabrainwave> i would start chopping off the end of the url and looking for whatever filetype you're looking for.
[04:15] <shareabrainwave> fishcooker, ^^
[04:15] <fishcooker> noted, not found
[04:16] <oerheks> it points to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages
[04:16] <oerheks> good luck with that testing ppa
[05:42] <altendky> continuing from earlier black-screen-after-resume discussions...  kubuntu 19.10 simply won't turn the display back on in a timely fashion after resuming.  i did set drm.debug=0x1e and managed to get a journalctl and xorg log during the extended black screen with an eventual (10 minutes and a few seconds) recovery with the screen turning on.  no xorg log entries following recovery, journalctl log shows recovery in the
[05:42] <altendky> vicinity of the second/last `DP Training successful`.  `Link Training failed` seems a significant point but i definitely don't know DP or these drivers at all.  http://fstab.net/tmp/p1/ (dated 2019-11-26T23:xx:xx)  suggestions on how to proceed would of course be greatly appreciated.  (tomreyn)
[05:43] <altendky> (for minimal context, this is a lenovo thinkpad p1 gen 2 laptop)
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> altendky: a few ideas to test, testing this on a previous kernel, and update your bios to latest
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> altendky: or a !mainline kernel higher version
[05:51] <altendky> lotuspsychje: thanks.  already on the latest bios.  looks like there might be a ppa for other kernels so i'll give that a shot.
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | altendky
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> altendky: please use the mainline kernels to do it the ubuntu way
[05:52] <altendky> lotuspsychje: that's the page i was reading :]
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> ok great :p
[06:19] <altendky> lotuspsychje: when i go to boot it (5.4.0 didn't build the nvidia module so i'm trying 5.3.13) i get an error about an invalid signature.  it's the -unsigned- package so that's vaguely not surprising but the linked page doesn't seem to discuss this.  am i supposed to disable secure boot or such?
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> altendky: nvidia? i thought you mentioned intel? are you using an optimus card?
[06:20] <altendky> lotuspsychje: it has both, yes.
[06:20] <altendky> well, i should be wary.  it has both.  i get the idea of this but i shouldn't claim it _is_ an optimus card as i don't know if that means something more
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> altendky: doublecheck if the nvidia driver is loaded: sudo lshw -C video , and yes uefi settings can influence your hardware like graphics or wifi
[06:23] <altendky> lotuspsychje: i've definitely seen two cards listed one with the nvidia module and the other with the i915.  with 5.3.13 (as opposed to the 5.3.0 i had before you suggested mainline) it looks to have successfully installed the nvidia module via dkms (i don't see an error anyways).  i was prompted to create a password and entered it into the bios when prompted there.  but i get the invalid signature still.  or, perhaps
[06:23] <altendky> that's an unrelated signature check
[06:25] <altendky> turning off secure boot allowed the 5.3.13 kernel to boot
[06:30] <altendky> lotuspsychje: welp, looks like you got me fixed.  so far it's turning the display back on after resuming.  thanks a bunch to both you and tomreyn.  i'm sure there are some more hurdles i'll find to make this really useful (still need to check external monitors that i've had trouble with) but this is a big step.  and now it's really time for bed.
[06:31] <lotuspsychje_> altendky: was that the secureboot off, or the newer kernel fix
[06:32] <altendky> lotuspsychje_: secureboot off so i could boot the new kernel is how i saw it.  but i'll try with secure boot off and the 5.3.0 kernel real quick too
[06:32] <lotuspsychje_> allright tnx altendky
[06:34] <altendky> lotuspsychje_: yes, the issue is still present with the 5.3.0 kernel and secureboot off
[06:35] <lotuspsychje_> altendky: so its kernel 5.3.13 that fixes this correct?
[06:36] <altendky> lotuspsychje_: 5.3.13 vs 5.3.0 it seems, yes.  if i get ambitious tomorrow maybe i'll bisect versions more specifically and check git to see what did it.  i haven't looked at kernel code since college :|
[06:37] <lotuspsychje_> altendky: ok great, would be nice if you filed a bug against 5.3.0 tomorrow then
[06:37] <lotuspsychje_> keep us informed altendky and tnx for testing this
[06:38] <altendky> lotuspsychje_: how does that work?  ubuntu would create a patch from whatever was changed to apply to the 5.3.0 kernel rather than updating to 5.3.13?
[06:38] <altendky> or maybe i am presuming i know too much about the meanings of kernel patch/micro versions
[06:39] <lotuspsychje_> altendky: the procedure is, when finding a bug, the user files it and the developers will search whats going on exactly, depending on whats the issue, perhaps bisecting
[06:39] <altendky> lotuspsychje_: even if the bug is already fixed by a micro release of the same major/minor kernel?
[06:39] <lotuspsychje_> altendky: so use ubuntu-bug linux (from the faulty kernel)
[06:40] <altendky> i'm just confirming since i would normally expect such a bug report to be closed as already having been fixed
[06:41] <lotuspsychje_> altendky: in your case we know a higher kernel fixes your issue, so the devs will find more easy whats going on because you tested it
[06:42] <lotuspsychje_> !info linux-image-generic eoan
[06:42] <lotuspsychje_> altendky: this is the kernel that 'should' work for 19.10 altendky ^
[06:46] <altendky> lotuspsychje_: alrighty, thanks again.  i'll follow up tomorrow with an ubuntu-bug report.
[06:46] <lotuspsychje_> tnx altendky
[07:37] <r4u1> SET theme BitchX.theme
[08:31] <k_sze> So the gnome-shell instance that keeps slowly but steadily eating up more RAM is the one with ibus-daemon as a child process.
[08:32] <k_sze> ibus-daemon, in turn, has ibus-engine-simple and ibus-dconf under it.
[08:32] <k_sze> literally, that's it in that process subtree.
[08:33] <k_sze> It's also run as the gdm user instead of me.
[08:34] <vanek> good morning
[08:35] <vanek> I have an issue where I want to run a command as root without password, so I have 'user ALL=NOPASSWD: /path/to/cmd' in /etc/sudoers.d/thingy, I can also see the command being available to me in 'sudo -l', however when I execute the command it asks for a password
[08:36] <vanek> nvm, found hte issue :)
[08:48] <k_sze> It looks like that's the gnome-shell instance responsible for the login screen.
[08:49] <pirx> hey! whats the standard/default way to handle iptables in ubuntu (server)? UFW?
[08:55] <ducasse> pirx: ufw is the default, or just plain iptables if you prefer
[08:55] <pirx> yes and with netplan now, where do you save "plain iptables"?
[08:56] <pirx> in 18.04...
[08:56] <pirx> (yes i admit, have been at 16.04 until now:) )
[08:57] <ducasse> not sure, tbh, i don't use netplan, but i'm sure it has hooks to run scripts. maybe check the examples at netplan.io?
[08:58] <pirx> yeah i did, seems that the solutions are very "ad hoc"
[08:59] <pirx> i think i'll give UFW a try on new servers then
[08:59] <pirx> ducasse: thanks for the help!
[08:59] <ducasse> you could also ask in #netplan
[09:00] <ducasse> np, sorry i can't help
[09:00] <pirx> well yes, i could, but the way i see it i am cloning ubuntu-servers not netplan-servers:)
[09:00] <ducasse> for writing firewall rules you might also want to check out ferm
[09:02] <pirx> ducasse: will have a look!
[09:02] <k_sze> Are GNOME extensions user-specific? I mean, each user can decide to install and/or enable a different set of extensions?
[09:04] <ducasse> pirx: do that, and good luck
[10:00] <jago25_98> I can't get VNC, X11rdp, Teamviewer, Chrome Remote Desktop working. All have issues of various kinds. What do you think is the easiest to fix?
[10:02] <jago25_98> ChromeRemoteD = Browser doesn't detect that the server process is running even though it is | x11rdp = auth fails, various fixes don't work | teamviewer = failed dependencies
[10:14] <Ben64> jago25_98: vnc
[10:15] <jago25_98> thanks. any particular varient?
[10:16] <Ben64> i think ubuntu still comes with vino by default
[10:16] <jago25_98> thanks. I'll give that a go. More likely to get better support articles
[10:17] <Ben64> should be as easy as hitting the little button that says "share my desktop"
[10:20] <jago25_98> it's a server
[10:20] <jago25_98> headless
[10:21] <Ben64> ah
[10:21] <Ben64> well, uh, why do you need gui then
[10:22] <jago25_98> want to browse remotely because this computer is too slow
[10:40] <coz_> good morning
[10:40] <lotuspsychje> good mornong coz_ what can we do for you?
[10:41] <coz_> lotuspsychje, at the moment I just wanted to say good morning, so far all is well with Ubuntu ")
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> great
[10:44] <pent1ckel> I'm using Ubuntu18 together with Strongswan and figured out that there is a memoryleak which is solved in mainline kernel already: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=86c6739eda7d2a03f2db30cbee67a5fb81afa8ba
[10:44] <pent1ckel> my question is: how to get this patch backported to supported Ubuntu18 kernels
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> pent1ckel: you might wanna talk to the #ubuntu-kernel guys about that
[10:51] <pent1ckel> lotuspsychje: ohh this is also available. I will ask there. thx
[10:59] <rud0lf> i downgraded thunderbird to 60 from 68
[10:59] <rud0lf> can i exclude it somehow manually from auto-updates
[10:59] <rud0lf> ?
[10:59] <rud0lf> because it asked me in a moment (ubuntu update manager) do download and update new version
[10:59] <coraxx> rud0lf: use "Force Version" in synaptic package manager
[11:00] <rud0lf> thanks
[11:01] <coraxx> rud0lf: (and/or lock version)
[11:01] <coraxx> rud0lf: np :-)
[11:02] <rud0lf> how do i lock it?
[11:05] <rud0lf> nvm found it
[11:06] <coraxx> rud0lf: just select it in the synaptic package manager (so the whole line is highlighted) ...in menu under "Package" select "Lock Version"
[12:12] <Shentino> How do I use markdown on the command line to process .md sources that have tables?
[12:12] <Shentino> the version I have installed doesn't seem to support this
[12:52] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:09] <pirx> hey! trying to start using ufw (have only been using plain iptables before). a few questions about that:)
[13:11] <pirx> i have 22 allowed. disabled fw, and that was ok, but when i tried to enable again it said "Command may disrupt existing ssh connections. Proceed with operation (y|n)?"
[13:11] <pirx> and sure enough, when i answered Y my session disconnected. isnt that kinda bad?
[13:24] <ioria> pirx, it should not, if you have already set up (correctly) a firewall rule that allows SSH connections
[13:27] <pirx> but it did. this is the whole confi had at the moment: https://hastebin.com/fanoqupuwe.rb
[13:27] <pirx> re-logging-in worked fine though
[13:28] <pirx> also, any possibility to   1. use variables in UFW?   2. let it output service-names (like: ssh) instead of numerical ports (like: 22)?
[13:31] <pirx> using "apps" seems good. it took me a little while to figure out that i need to use the "description" and not the application name to reference it though:)
[13:33] <pirx> ah no, i need to use the name within []
[13:34] <pirx> would be nice to have variables for IPs/subnets
[13:36] <leftyfb> pirx: sounds like you should stick with plain iptables and not a wrapper like ufw
[14:12] <salamanderrake> I've been having this issue where my monitor goes black, my system hard locks(?) and the cpu(red cpu error light) light goes on on my motherboard, but it only happens in Linux, not windows 10, would the system record an error on whats going on? journalctl -b (previous boot number) shows no issues.
[14:37] <pomeha> hello, what's the right source to download deb packages for ubuntu 18.04 using windows machine?
[14:39] <raub> pomeha: what do you mean?
[14:42] <pomeha> raub: I have windows machine in a network with internet access only through some weird ntlm auth'ed proxy. It looks like ubuntu  can't be configured (neither system generally, nor apt in particular nor even curl) to use that connection, so my idea is to download packages using windows (just via browser) and then install them on ubuntu (wsl) from files
[14:44] <pomeha> I need this: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/database/postgresql-client (with all deps)
[14:45] <raub> pomeha: Oh I see. An ubuntu repo is a glorified website. So, you could download the entire shebang into a network fileshare and then lie to ubuntu saying that is a CD it can use as local repo
[14:45] <raub> I think that would be the laziest way
[14:45] <oerheks> !offline
[14:45] <leftyfb> pomeha: can you configure your Windows machine to be some sort of proxy for the ubuntu machine?
[14:46] <raub> leftyfb: I think he said he tried that and did not work
[14:46] <pomeha> leftyfb: not sure yet, I haven't used windows for a while... but new job requires that now :/
[14:46] <leftyfb> raub: doesn't look like it
[14:46] <pomeha> raub: he means local proxy
[14:47] <pomeha> so that windows'd serve as the server
[14:47] <leftyfb> pomeha: there's also WSL on the Windows machine. That'll give you better tools to download packages you can then copy over to the ubuntu machine
[14:47] <pomeha> leftyfb: that's what I'm trying to use
[14:47] <pomeha> unfortunately, it doesn't automagically hook up network settings from host system
[14:48] <raub> pomeha: local repo or proxy would be my suggestions. I like local repo myself but I am weird
[14:48] <leftyfb> pomeha: it's supposed to
[14:48] <raub> You can fake a proxy with plain old firewall port forwarding
[14:49] <pomeha> leftyfb: thing is... it's a bank, so there's a really weird/sketchy networking: I can't not only ping some hosts (ICMP traffic may be blocked, right?) - they don't even resolve on my machine, YET, when I open them as http - those resources work just fine
[14:49] <pomeha> something like ns is on the proxy or something
[14:49] <leftyfb> pomeha: ok, then maybe you shouldn't be doing any of this
[14:50] <raub> leftyfb: that is why I suggested local repo
[14:51] <leftyfb> or not going against company/IT policy at a bank
[14:51] <raub> Selling a local proxy to IT might be easier
[14:51] <raub> Since they can manage it
[14:51] <oerheks> why not the offline method?
[14:52] <raub> oerheks: as leftyfb said, company policy concerns
[14:53] <oerheks> oh, then the whole question is against that policy, i guess
[14:53] <pomeha> it's not against company policy
[14:53] <pomeha> the precious stuff is in our cloud
[14:53] <leftyfb> pomeha: then your IT department should be able to help you get your machine online
[14:53] <pomeha> I just want comfort from using linux client tools
[14:53] <pomeha> IT dept takes weeks to just install printer
[14:54] <oerheks> sounds more like a school than a company .. good luck!
[14:54] <raub> banks are pretty restrictive
[14:55] <pomeha> nice way to call someone a schoolboi
[14:57] <raub> pomeha: as I said before, if you download an entire repo, make it available somewhere the linux box can mount as a fileshare, and then configure said linux box to use that fileshare as a repo cd, it should work. Company policy issues is up to you.
[14:57] <pomeha> raub: yeah, thanks, googling on how to do that
[14:57] <raub> Same goes for ubottu's suggestion
[14:57] <Viridian> Hello!  I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 and I'm having a little trouble with my sound.  After not using the computer for a few minutes, sound stutters until I go into sound settings and click on the "Input" tab.  Then it clears up.
[14:57] <pomeha> well, I don't want/need the entire repo
[14:58] <pomeha> I only need a set of packages
[14:58] <raub> ubottu's suggestion should address that
[14:58] <pomeha> I wish there was a tool for that :(
[14:59] <pomeha> my laptop with ubuntu has xfce and thus no synaptic
[14:59] <rud0lf> uhhh
[14:59] <raub> Er, make it oerheks' suggestion
[14:59] <rud0lf> i just installed synaptic today and i use xUbuntu
[14:59] <pomeha> oh, just thought so
[14:59] <raub> pomeha: scroll back up and see what oerheks wrote
[14:59] <pomeha> I always used apt...
[15:00] <rud0lf> Viridian: maybe the sound card is tried to put in low power mode
[15:00] <rud0lf> to be put*
[15:06] <Viridian> I'm using a USB headset, so I don't think my sound hardware is actually being used.
[15:12] <damanz_> Is there anyway to configurr vsftpd so that each account has a maximum download quota? Like the account cant be used to download more then 2tb?
[15:15] <leftyfb> damanz_: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-enable-user-and-group-quotas  Found by googling "vsftpd download limit quota"
[15:17] <oerheks> https://serverfault.com/questions/37737/quotas-in-vsftpd almost the same..
[15:18] <damanz_> ltftyfb that quota page has nothing to do with what i asked
[15:18] <damanz_> Neither does oerheks.. please read before you answer
[15:21] <pragmaticenigma> damanz_, Please mind your tone. We're all volunteers and we're all here to help one another. Perhaps your question is being interpreted differently than how you thought it sounded. Providing more information/examples could help everyone understand what exactly it is you are trying to do.
[15:21] <leftyfb> damanz_: um. Yes it does. Unless what you're looking for isn't what you asked for above.
[15:22] <damanz_> Thats just about disk space. Im asking how do i limit vsftpd users from downloading no more then 2tb
[15:23] <leftyfb> ah, you are correct. I apologize
[15:24] <pragmaticenigma> damanz_, Is there a time frame you have in mind? The solution might not be available in vsftp, but through some other application that can monitor/meter a users data usage
[15:24] <damanz_> No timeframe
[15:25] <mocas> hi, How would I configure visudo to allow a user tu run command as a root ?  whoami should return root...
[15:25] <damanz_> Just want to ensure each vsftpd user cannot download more then 2tb
[15:26] <pragmaticenigma> damanz_, vsftp has no documentation pointing to implementation of data transfer metering or limiting. You'd have to look at some other approach
[15:28] <ioria> damanz_, iptable maybe
[15:28] <pragmaticenigma> damanz_, based on what you have said so far, it does feel like this could be accomplished through user disk quotas though. If for all time they are only allowed to download 2TB of data, a 2TB data quota would mean they can't download anymore when they've run out of space (it doesn't handle the case the a user can delete a file to enable more data transfer)
[15:30] <raub> damanz_: What if you monitor the xferlog_file and then kick user out accordingly? i.e. some scripting required
[15:33] <ioria> damanz_, check for  'iptables quota' ; e.g https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/iptables-byte-count-and-quota-4175590847/
[15:37] <ioria> damanz_, also https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Very_Secure_FTP_Daemon#Limiting_connections
[15:44] <UsQUE> anyone known good video surveillance monitor/recording system on linux? able to work with any different type of IP Camera
[15:45] <ioria> UsQUE,  i remember 'motion '
[15:46] <UsQUE> ioria, is it web based? :)
[15:47] <ioria> UsQUE, i guess so, you can use with ff
[15:48] <UsQUE> I'me using the one from Ubiquiti (Unifi Video) but doesn't allow me to add the camera RTSP stream to it :/
[15:48] <UsQUE> So, I hope there is open source system doing similar stuff :D
[15:49] <UsQUE> and supporting all cams
[15:49] <ioria> !info motion
[15:49] <SimonNL> UsQUE:    apt show motion
[15:49] <UsQUE> ok thanks, let me try that one out :)
[15:50] <SimonNL> Motion is a command line based tool. It has no graphical user interface.
[15:50] <SimonNL> thought you might wanted to know that
[15:51] <leftyfb> UsQUE: zoneminder
[16:02] <UsQUE> zoneminder seems to be the better option for my needs :)
[16:02] <UsQUE> thanks leftyfb
[16:14] <fuze> I upgraded 18.04 to 19.10 kubuntu and now when i try to print i get error ""src = libcanon_pdlwrapper.c, line = 633, err = -1¥nERROR: src = libcanon_pdlwrapper.c, line = 345, err = 0¥nfree(): invalid pointer"	"
[16:18] <ioria> fuze, you probably installed the driver from the Canon website; so you might need to remove and reinstall it
[16:18] <fuze> ioria: are built in drivers as effective?
[16:19] <ioria> fuze, i cannot know
[16:19] <fuze> i have no idea what the package is called
[16:19] <fuze> how can i uninstall the driver
[16:20] <fuze> actually i found a canon printer driver package, is it just one package?
[16:21] <ioria> fuze, if you search your model on the Canon website, you'll get the installer package name; you find it on your pc, and you'll read the readme file
[16:23] <ioria> fuze,  there might be also problem with 32bit libs, almost dropped after 18.04
[16:29] <makaveli> hi all, I have no idea why i cannot enter the hard drive encryption password after upgrade, I have to boot older kernel in order to progress. anyone else had this issue/knows how to resolve.
[16:30] <fuze> ioria: i reinstalled and got the same error
[16:31] <ioria> fuze,  and the installation went ok  ?
[16:32] <fuze> ioria: yes i was able to register the printer
[16:32] <fuze> ""src = libcanon_pdlwrapper.c, line = 633, err = -1¥nERROR: src = libcanon_pdlwrapper.c, line = 345, err = 0¥nfree(): invalid pointer"	" when i try to print
[16:32] <ioria> fuze,  apt list --installed | grep 386 | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:33] <fuze> ioria: this is the printer, driver has been updated recently https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/details/printers/color-laser/lbp7110cw?tab=drivers_downloads
[16:33] <fuze> https://termbin.com/xsaj
[16:37] <mrproper> I am trying to install Ubuntu 19.10 in VMware Fusion and the installer keeps locking up. Right now it's in the Keyboard layout dialog.
[16:37] <rfm> fuze, ioria: I found what seems to be an actively maintained ppa for canon drivers, https://launchpad.net/~thierry-f/+archive/ubuntu/fork-michael-gruz
[16:39] <ioria> fuze,  dpkg -l | grep libpangox  | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:39] <rfm> mrproper, how much ram did you give the VM?  Theres apparently a bug (in snapd) that ends up needing more than 2.5GB ram to install (the VM can be cut down later)
[16:39] <mrproper> rfm: Interesting. It's at 2, but I"ll bump to 3.
[16:40] <rfm> mrproper, I use 4 and don't have problems.
[16:40] <mrproper> I'll go 4. My host has 32GB, so it's fine.
[16:42] <ioria> rfm, thanks
[16:45] <ab305> Getting apt install errors on 14.04 (we can't upgrade at moment). Do I need to disable ESM? it fails with 401 "Failed to fetch https://esm.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/c/curl/curl_7.35.0-1ubuntu2.20+esm3_amd64.deb  HttpError401"
[16:45] <mrproper> rfm: It's installing, which is better than last time.
[16:46] <fuze> \
[16:47] <fuze> ioria: printer works fine on windows
[16:47] <ioria> fuze,  dpkg -l | grep libpangox  | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:47] <fuze> https://termbin.com/u2d86
[16:48] <fuze> rfm: doesnt look like it has the LBP7110 series
[16:50] <ioria> fuze,  apt install  libjpeg62:i386  and restart cups and the printer
[16:50] <altendky> lotuspsychje: tomreyn: i don't know if you like to follow up on issues you helped with but here's the bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1854177  now on to debugging the hdmi output which notices a display well enough to display the simple display extend etc popup but doesn't actually seem to detect or enable the attached monitor/tv
[16:51] <fuze> ioria:  /etc/init.d/cupsd restart ?
[16:51] <fuze> no such file or directory
[16:52] <ioria> fuze,  sudo systemctl restart cups
[16:53] <fuze> ioria: same error
[16:54] <ioria> fuze,  my idea is that you missed a dependency (i386), but idk which exactly
[16:55] <fuze> ioria: doesnt the driver check dependencies at install
[16:55] <ioria> fuze,  depends on the driver
[16:55] <fuze> ioria: how can i fix it?
[16:56] <mrproper> rfm: Now I'm running into a problem I've seen both on Ubuntu and Fedora. I put it into HiDPI mode and the wallpaper turns white.
[16:57] <ioria> fuze, nothing in the readme or install files ?
[16:57] <ioria> brb
[16:58] <fuze> seems it may only support up to 19.04
[16:59] <fuze> heres the readme https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/bS7UA175/README-ufr2lt-5.0xUS.html
[17:00] <fuze> For 64-bit
[17:00] <fuze> Ubuntu 14.04/19.04 Desktop
[17:01] <fuze> is it just not supported?
[17:01] <C0nundrum> Trying to do a apt-get upgrade -y but i'm getting ImportError: No module named site
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> tnx altendky for creating the bug report
[17:03] <altendky> C0nundrum: were you doing something with python recently?
[17:03] <C0nundrum> Yea, bad things i suspect
[17:03] <C0nundrum> i had 2.7.6 installed
[17:03] <C0nundrum> to upgrade i did
[17:04] <altendky> C0nundrum: yeah, i mostly pretend that the system python doesn't exist and use pyenv to get whatever version i want.
[17:04] <C0nundrum> cd /usr/src && \    rm -rf /usr/lib/python2* /usr/local/lib/python2* /usr/bin/python2* /usr/local/bin/python2* /usr/bin/pip && \    curl -O https://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.7.16/Python-2.7.16.tgz && \    tar xzf Python-2.7.16.tgz && \    cd Python-2.7.16 && \    ./configure --enable-optimizations && \    make altinstall && \    rm -rf
[17:04] <C0nundrum> /usr/local/bin/python && \    ln -s `which python2.7` /usr/local/bin/python && \    curl https://bootstrap.pypa.io/get-pip.py -o get-pip.py && \    python get-pip.py
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> use a !pastebin for that ammount of text C0nundrum next time please
[17:06] <C0nundrum> Sorry
[17:06] <C0nundrum> https://bpaste.net/show/IK5EY
[17:07] <altendky> C0nundrum: pyenv really is nice.  do follow the instructions including the wiki describing what dependencies to install prior to building.  i can't say i know how to clean up after what you shared but hopefully someone else here does.
[17:08] <ioria> fuze, can you paste this file : libcanon_pdlwrapper.c  ?
[17:08] <altendky> C0nundrum: consider the system provided python to be there for system packages.  it's not there for you to fiddle with (beyond just using it, this includes that you should not run your system pip basically at all, instead use pip from an env https://bit.ly/py-env, but this is reaching into #python territory)
[17:10] <C0nundrum> Well i wish i came here first...
[17:10] <C0nundrum> it was recommended on stack overflow when upgrading patch versions
[17:10] <C0nundrum> because of an error with a lib module i was getting
[17:10] <fuze> ioria: i dont have it in the driver files or /usr folder. why would the driver give me a .c file?
[17:10] <fuze> thats a runtime error referring to a source code file
[17:11] <ioria> fuze,   sudo updatedb && locate  libcanon_pdlwrapper.c
[17:11] <fuze> ioria: no output
[17:12] <altendky> C0nundrum: i do hope someone else chimes in but if not i'd be looking at reinstalling the python packages.  with apt broken you presumably have to grab the packages yourself and use dpkg, or perhaps someone in #python would be familiar enough to help you manually get this going well enough to use apt to reinstall the packages.
[17:13] <C0nundrum> it's in docker so its fine. i can just rebuild the image.
[17:13] <C0nundrum> luckyly
[17:15] <ioria> fuze, may i ask you in what language have you installed ubuntu ?
[17:15] <fuze> english
[17:26] <C0nundrum> Anyone know what would cause `make: *** [libinstall] Error 1` ?
[17:26] <knstn> is there "teamviewer" for 18.04? I can't find it in the repos
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> knstn: teamviewer download from their website requiers their ppa
[17:27] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | knstn
[17:30] <ioria> fuze, sudo apt  install lib32ncurses5 lib32z1 libglade2-0  and run the installer again
[17:30] <fuze> E: Unable to locate package lib32ncurses5
[17:31] <ioria> !info lib32ncurses5
[17:31] <ioria> !info lib32ncurses5 bionic
[17:32] <fuze> how can i install it?
[17:33] <fuze> i have lib32ncurses6
[17:33] <fuze> should i get that?
[17:35] <ioria> fuze, sudo apt  install lib32ncurses6   lib32ncurses-dev lib32z1 libglade2-0  and run the installer again
[17:37] <ioria> fuze, then restart cups, but this my last shot, sy
[17:38] <fuze> ioria: same error
[17:58] <vlt> Hello. I’m trying to use the --init-password option of fcrackzip. I run `fcrackzip --brute-force --init-password "zzzzzz" --verbose --length 6-8 example.zip` and expect the first password to be "zzzzzz" but get "Cecking pw aaa...". Any idea why?
[18:31] <makaveli> hi all, I have no idea why i cannot enter the hard drive encryption password after upgrade, I have to boot older kernel in order to progress. anyone else had this issue/knows how to resolve.
[18:35] <pragmaticenigma> makaveli: best I can susggest is to back up the data to another machine or device, and reinstall. It's possible someone may have a way, but the first step would be to get your data backed up somewhere safe
[18:38] <wanditoast> I did it with Ubuntu 19.04
[18:39] <lordcirth> makaveli, what happens on boot? Does it hang on a graphical splash screen?
[18:45] <sxpert>  /buffer 9
[18:45] <wanditoast> .thank you
[18:45] <wanditoast> it worked
[18:48] <Phruis`> any tool that sets up upgrade skipping for specific packages?
[18:50] <dbugger> Hi, I have a weird issue. Programs like Filezilla or Hexchat take several seconds to open up. Sometimes like 15 seconds. How can this be??
[18:50] <lordcirth> Phruis`, https://www.linuxuprising.com/2018/10/how-to-keep-package-from-updating-in.html
[18:51] <ioria> dbugger, if they are snaps, is normal (cache font issue, iirc)
[18:52] <dbugger> ioria, they are not
[18:52] <ioria> dbugger, then check syslog
[18:56] <dbugger> ioria, if you mean the "Logs" app, I dont any output there..
[18:57] <makaveli> pragmaticenigma: thats lame but thanks
[18:57] <makaveli> lordcirth: yeah
[18:57] <makaveli> has it recently started using some different crypto ?
[18:57] <lordcirth> makaveli, what if you press ESC? Also try editing your grub entry and removing 'quiet splash' from the linux line
[18:58] <lordcirth> makaveli, no, it's almost certainly a UI bug
[18:58] <makaveli> great, thanks
[18:58] <makaveli> will try on next reboot
[18:58] <ioria> dbugger, start them from cli
[19:01] <dbugger> ioria, I get this: Nov 27 20:00:42 mercury xdg-desktop-por[2090]: Failed to get application states: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.portal.Error.Failed: Could not get window list: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: App introspection not allowed
[19:02] <sarnold> dbugger: anything in dmesg or /var/log/audit/audit.log?
[19:03] <dbugger> sarnold,  I dont have any folder called /var/log/audit
[19:04] <sarnold> dbugger: that's fine, most people don't
[19:04] <dbugger> Because it happens with more than one app, I was thinking that it is a system-related problem
[19:04] <dbugger> But no idea what it could be...
[19:12] <lukas_gab> Hi! I Configure lighttpd with webdav. When I connect to WebDav all is fine, but when I type mkcol test i recive 403 forbidden - why? Can you help me debug this? Thank for yours help.
[19:14] <sarnold> lukas_gab: are there more details in your server logs?
[19:16] <lukas_gab> no error in lighttpd log
[19:16] <dbugger> sarnold, ioria, look at this: https://webm.red/5cq4.webm
[19:17] <lukas_gab> pleas seee
[19:17] <lukas_gab> root@a373:/var# cadaver http://192.168.3.173:20373/joplinwebdav
[19:17] <lukas_gab> Authentication required for webdav on server `192.168.3.173':
[19:17] <lukas_gab> Username: joplin
[19:17] <lukas_gab> Password:
[19:17] <lukas_gab> dav:/joplinwebdav/> mkcol test
[19:18] <lukas_gab> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sX9CTgy9Kn/
[19:22] <sarnold> dbugger: I wonder if that's the same thing as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-desktop-portal-gtk/+bug/1851807
[19:23] <sarnold> dbugger: the flatpak references are throwing me a bit but it looks pretty similar
[19:23] <dbugger> no idea...
[19:26] <sarnold> dbugger: my guess is to use ubuntu-bug to file a bug against xdg-desktop-portal, copy-paste the terminal output from both those terminals, and reference 1851807 just incase it's the same one, it'll be easy to dup
[19:27] <dbugger> But isnt that message about "App introspection" appears before opening filezillaß
[19:27] <dbugger> ?
[19:31] <sarnold> ah so it is :/
[19:59] <ioria> dbugger, run dbus-monitor in one tab and hexchat in another
[20:03] <dbugger> ioria, https://pastebin.com/raw/edVMF7rp
[20:08] <ioria> dbugger, probably a bug ; see if you have in dconf-editor an 'Instrospect' item
[20:12] <dbugger> lets see...
[21:23] <rockylhotka> Hi all - just trying out multipass, which is pretty cool
[21:23] <rockylhotka> Is there a way to specify my local drive on which the virtual images are stored?
[21:23] <rockylhotka> I am guessing it is using my C drive, but that's not ideal, as it is cramped, while I have a big RAID on E for this sort of thing
[21:27] <compdoc> this is the only multipass Ive heard of:  https://www.amazon.com/QMX-Fifth-Element-Multipass-Replica/dp/B01CKHZXFM
[21:27] <dbugger> Does anyone has an idea why could it be that some programs are taking A LOT of time to open up?
[21:28] <compdoc> do those programs access the web?
[21:29] <dbugger> oh wait, I just found this thread
[21:29] <dbugger> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1184774/some-applications-on-ubuntu-19-10-very-slow-to-start
[21:29] <dbugger> Im going to try restart
[21:33] <robertparkerx> rsync -chavzP --stats /path/to/local/storage user@remote.host:/path/to/copy --- if I am doing this from the machine and wanted to copy to local, is it okay?
[21:34] <dbugger> Ok, yeah, it worked
[21:34] <dbugger> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1184774/some-applications-on-ubuntu-19-10-very-slow-to-start
[21:34] <cgi> can anyone tell me what this df output means -https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5Xs8g3RPKB/ ? what is the mapper mount? Also, is there a better tool than df to look at free drive space - I see a lot of loop/tmpfs in its output now?
[21:35] <rockylhotka> https://multipass.run - a canonical product to make it super-easy to run Linux instances
[21:35] <rockylhotka> compdoc
[21:36] <rockylhotka> Though I love the 5th Element reference!! ;)
[21:37] <compdoc> cool. I use kvm and virt-manager, and you can set where the image is stored
[21:39] <rockylhotka> My host is Win10 with HyperV - it looks like kvm requires a Windows host?
[21:40] <compdoc> there might be a kvm for windows, but I only use it on ubuntu servers
[21:44] <compdoc> I found that kvm is faster than hyper-v
[21:45] <cgi> anyone has a good pointer for me for a replacement for "df" which does not show loops/mappers/tmpfs etc. Something easy - preferably even a gui?
[21:46] <sarnold> cgi: that's from LVM https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm
[21:46] <rockylhotka> Could be - but I run a lot of other stuff in hyper-v (android emulators, other OSes) so uninstalling it to install a different hypervisor isn't realistic - at least not on my dev workstation
[21:46] <sarnold> cgi: df can take arguments: eg df .  or df . / /home
[21:47] <rockylhotka> This multipass tool is really quite amazing in terms of making it super-easy to install and interact with ubuntu server instances
[21:47] <cgi> sarnold, so i should skip "mapper" stuff as well?
[21:47] <cgi> sarnold, I am trying to look at the different SSDs on my machine and how much space do i have
[21:47] <rockylhotka> Just need to figure out how to get the virtual drive images to sit elsewhere - maybe some symbolic links are in order
[21:48] <rockylhotka> of course I need to find where it put the image in the first place...
[21:49] <robertparkerx> That's it
[21:57] <rbasak> cgi: df has the -x option
[21:57] <rbasak> cgi: so "df -x squashfs -x tmpfs" for example
[21:57] <rbasak> You could alias that
[21:58] <cgi> rbasak, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5Xs8g3RPKB/
[21:58] <cgi> rbasak, I want a simpler representation of this - preferably not mapper/loop/tmpfs cobbled df
[21:59] <rbasak> cgi: what do you expect to see instead?
[21:59] <ducasse> cgi: df alsp has -t to only list certain fs types
[22:00] <rbasak> cgi: you can run "lsblk" to see the structure. That might help explain what you're seeing.
[22:06] <compdoc> cgi, you ever look at System Monitor?
[22:18] <nikolam> Hi, I have a strange siguation where WoeUSB (creator for bootable images form ISO) seems frozen, without refrshing the windows, while at the same time "xiccd" is using large cpu time on one CPU core...
[22:23] <tomreyn> nikolam: which graphical desktop are you using, which ubuntu version?
[22:24] <nikolam> tomreyn, thank you for asking, Xubuntu 19.10, Xfce,
[22:25] <tomreyn> xiccd doesn't seem to be a requirement there, did you install it manually?
[22:26] <tomreyn> woeusb is not part of ubuntu, thus not something we can really support. but check your logs for any error messages regarding the two and colord
[22:26] <nikolam> could be required I don't know, let me check: it is dependency of xfce4-settings
[22:29] <tomreyn> ah, so i missed this
[22:29] <tomreyn> journalctl -b   lets you review what was logged since the latest boot
[22:29] <cgi> compdoc, system monitor also shows a mess of loops/tmpfs/mapper etc. If a machine has 2 or 3 SSDs for storage, why not a simple visualization of how much is used, how much is free?
[22:30] <cgi> rbasak, here is the mess I am talking about: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7xTDYNwByP/
[22:34] <pragmaticenigma> cgi, try baobab, it's a graphical representation of the utilized space on your system. On my system, it does not show the loop back devices used by snap instances. "sudo apt install baobab"
[22:36] <tomreyn> cgi: alias df='df -x squashfs -x tmpfs -x devtmpfs'; df
[22:36] <nikolam> tomreyn, woeusb seems doing it's job, looking alive, xiccd still doing it's cpu hog, One thing to mention is I recently added new repo, signal-xenial.list deb [arch=amd64] https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial main
[22:37] <tomreyn> nikolam: you could look for existing bug reports against xiccd or report one yourself:
[22:37] <tomreyn> !bug | nikolam
[22:39] <tomreyn> and would then probably come across bug 1845800
[22:40] <rbasak> cgi: so you can do the same with "lsblk -e 7" if you don't want to see the loop devices
[22:41] <rbasak> And set an alias for that, etc.
[22:48] <tomreyn> nikolam: generally, a better place to discuss xubuntu specific issues is #xubuntu
[22:51] <nikolam> tomreyn, great things, thanks.
[22:54] <altendky> i am having a similar issue as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-oem/+bug/1844798 but in 19.10 with the 5.3.0 kernel (or at the moment mainstream 5.3.13).  should i just `ubuntu-bug linux` and explain it and reference the issue above?  or use the 'Also affects distribution/package'?  or...  thanks.
[23:04] <dka> where does modem manager gui store sms ?
[23:06] <tomreyn> altendky: fixes which go into -oem kernels are usually not going to be backported into the same kernel versions' -generic packages. This (or a modified copy of this) patch *may* land in upstream Linux at some point and thus end up in future generic kernels. for now, if you depend on this patch, your best option may be to use linux-oem on 18.04 LTS.
[23:17] <V7> Hey all
[23:18] <altendky> tomreyn: so backlight (and suspend resume) work in 19.10 oem.  I thought I had checked that before.  Though wifi isn't detected for it.  Hmm.  Even just a kennel option with 5.3.0 was able to get backlight adjustment to do something, just seemed to have bad scaling.
[23:18] <V7> We have such config https://paste.ofcode.org/s94ZqP6w3528C3uE9iBp9W i.e.
[23:19] <V7> A part of it. As the result, getting message in auth.log: "Received request to connect to host localhost port 10123, but the request was denied."
[23:19] <V7> What might this be?
[23:20] <faLUCE> hello, is there a media player with a GUI that allows me to change the pan/volume of each channel (for a 6 channels audio) ?
[23:20] <V7> faLUCE: Audaciours
[23:20] <sarnold> faLUCE: pavucontrol may let you do the channels, but it's most certainly not a media player
[23:20] <V7> Audaciouc*
[23:21] <faLUCE> V7: it's an audio editor
[23:21] <V7> Hole moly ... audacious*
[23:21] <V7> faLUCE: It's not
[23:21] <faLUCE> I would avoid to open huge files with it
[23:21] <faLUCE> not?
[23:21] <V7> You're about Audacity
[23:22] <oerheks> check out ubuntustudio repos
[23:22] <faLUCE> V7: thnks, let's try it
[23:22] <oerheks> https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/ubuntustudio-audio
[23:22] <V7> It has some themes to change. Some of them might have pan setting on GUI
[23:23] <V7> Btw, does anyone know what might it be with SSH?
[23:23] <V7> Removing AllowAgentForwarding doesnt' cahnge anything
[23:23] <V7> ^^ these typos ...
[23:24] <tomreyn> altendky: my (limited) understanding about OEM kernels is that they're meant to be used on LTS releases only, so 18.04 LTS would be the latest at this time.
[23:25] <tomreyn> altendky: if the default 19.10 kernel mostly works for you, then you could just stay with this until 20.04 LTS releases (and upgrades become available, or you'd do a fresh install).
[23:25] <faLUCE> V7: I don't see the multi channel dialog in audacious
[23:25] <faLUCE> I just installed it
[23:25] <altendky> tomreyn: i installed https://packages.ubuntu.com/eoan/linux-oem  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nBgH89tKNs/
[23:26] <tomreyn> TR3990X / Disconsented: please limit your nickname changes to what's strictly needed while on #ubuntu
[23:27] <faLUCE> sarnold: how can I do that with pavucontrol? I just  opened it, but don't see this dialog
[23:28] <tomreyn> altendky: yes, this 4.15 kernel is available there, i'm not sure it's a good idea to use a kernel version lower than what the 19.10 release comes with by default, though.
[23:28] <altendky> tomreyn: mainline 5.3.13 (well 5.3.12 is sufficient) gets suspend working but not backlight adjustment.  4.15 oem gets suspend and backlight but not wifi (though i didn't look into it at all yet).  i mean, if i can isolate the backlight fix i'm not against building my own kernel if ubuntu isn't going to fix it 'soon'.
[23:29] <altendky> tomreyn: yeah, i don't really want to be using 4.15, was just finding that it worked (maybe i tried it for some other issue before)  (maybe i should be more organized in what i'm trying..)
[23:29] <altendky> but at least now i'm starting to feel like i have a clue...  oh, and i still need to figure out hdmi not working.
[23:30] <V7> faLUCE: Oh, sorry. Though there were such.
[23:30] <V7> I didn't see such player, but processors
[23:30] <V7> I.e. https://qtractor.sourceforge.io/qtractor-screenshots.html
[23:31] <V7> Also, as oerheks said, you may want to try using pulse or alsa tools for that
[23:32] <tomreyn> altendky: i don't think anyone here will be able to help you with issues you just name but whose essence you're not discussing, log, error messages and user experience details you are not providing. (also, i need to leave now, but maybe others can help if you provide those.)
[23:33] <altendky> tomreyn: my apologies, that was a pointless passing comment.  Though I haven't found logs showing anything at all yet when I attach a display.  And I did have it working at some point so I need to think back and explore a bit.
[23:35] <tomreyn> altendky: no need to apologize, i'm just trying to suggest how you can get better support. ttyl.
[23:38] <faLUCE> sarnold: pavucontrol does the job 1perfectly! thanks
[23:39] <sarnold> yay! :)
[23:40] <sarnold> I've never had audio that complicated, two channels still feels like a lot
[23:40]  * sarnold *beep* *beep*
[23:41] <AppAraat> so I've installed 18.04 in a VM, and this caught my eye: https://paste.debian.net/1118318/ - I was wondering why the snap version of tmux has 1. License = Proprietary and 2. Older than the apt version? :p
[23:41] <shibboleth> https://arstechnica.com/?p=1623735
[23:42] <sarnold> AppAraat: can you pop into #snapcraft and ask for help?
[23:42] <shibboleth> good news it would seem. 14.04 had upstart ,18.04 had netplan, what is going to be "hey, let's try this with 20.04?
[23:42] <shibboleth> xeinail was actually quite nice
[23:42] <shibboleth> xenial
[23:43] <AppAraat> sure
[23:43] <oerheks> standard: trust the snap owner .... Last updated 23 February 2017
[23:43] <ryuo> shibboleth: err... upstart was introduced much earlier than 14.04...
[23:43] <oerheks> https://snapcraft.io/tmux
[23:44] <AppAraat> while latest stable is 2.9a :D
[23:45] <oerheks> this page gives an other maintainer too.. https://launchpad.net/tmux
[23:46] <AppAraat> I actually have a script that downloads and compiles latest stable tmux on debian/ubuntu systems and I usually use that, but I found the whole snap thing to be peculiar. Especially the proprietary license part.
[23:46] <oerheks> yes, Eoan, and next Focal is on 3 ..  https://launchpad.net/tmux/+packages
[23:46] <oerheks> agreed, prop is a mistake in this
[23:47] <oerheks> good spot!
[23:47] <AppAraat> ty