| lubot | <HMollerCl> I'm almost ready with individual wallpaper (same for all) for multimonitor. Problem is that test it's not easy because latest libfm-qt is needed. What do we need for ci tu work? | 13:31 |
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| lubot | <kc2bez> it looks like symbols are the issue there. I took a quick peek at it last night. | 13:32 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> Also, I poked at the welcome center and got it so it builds and all the buttons work. @tsimonq2 do you want me to push my changes to phab? | 13:35 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @kc2bez [it looks like symbols are the issue there. I took a quick peek at it last night.], libfm-qt? yes. symbols | 13:45 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> libfm-qt, yes. Here is the latest buildlog https://launchpadlibrarian.net/453526762/buildlog_ubuntu-focal-amd64.libfm-qt_0.14.1+git201911290108~focal-0ubuntu1~ppa1_BUILDING.txt.gz | 13:49 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> Here is some info on symbols https://wiki.debian.org/UsingSymbolsFiles | 13:50 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @kc2bez [Also, I poked at the welcome center and got it so it builds and all the buttons …], Go for it | 14:58 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rWELCOME72495165535b: Fix welcomecenterresource file] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rWELCOME72495165535b | 15:00 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rWELCOME9eb1c261d5b5: Fix contributing button link] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rWELCOME9eb1c261d5b5 | 15:00 | |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @kc2bez [Also, I poked at the welcome center and got it so it builds and all the buttons …], Yay!! | 15:37 |
| lubot | B3twiise was added by: B3twiise | 15:37 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @kc2bez [libfm-qt, yes. Here is the latest buildlog https://launchpadlibrarian.net/453526 …], I ave been able to build git libfm-qt 2 machines w/o problems | 15:44 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> *have | 15:44 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> but I have built it for amd64 only | 15:49 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Try building it in a sbuild of 32bit | 15:53 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> It will need some effort to put up a sbuild or pbuilder. But trust me, it's good for testing i still have one lying around. | 15:57 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> I know my friend mapreri may hate me for saying this (he maintains pbuilder in Debian) but sbuild > pbuilder :) | 15:58 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> @tsimonq2 [I know my friend mapreri may hate me for saying this (he maintains pbuilder in D …], 10/10 highly recommend | 15:59 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> https://github.com/calamares/calamares/issues/1279 | 16:49 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> Will there be a statement from the LC or should I answer, that we use https://ipapi.co/json to set the url in /etc/apt/sources.list? | 16:58 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> There will be something that will come from LC. | 16:59 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> thanks | 16:59 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> There is also this thread in our forum from (maybe) the same user => https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/calamares-unauthorised-data-leaking-ethics-and-eu-data-regulations/550/4 | 17:00 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> I think it is the same person. | 17:03 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker [Try building it in a sbuild of 32bit], do you have some docs for doing it? | 17:14 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [do you have some docs for doing it?], There's docs on ubuntu wiki. I will have to dig up. One sec. | 17:14 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild | 17:15 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> ^ here you go. @HMollerCl | 17:15 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> thanks | 17:16 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @kc2bez [Here is some info on symbols https://wiki.debian.org/UsingSymbolsFiles], when tryng to use git pcmanfm with released libfm-qt this error araises :"./pcmanfm-qt: undefined symbol: _ZN2Fm16ProxyFolderModel13setHiddenLastEb" | 17:17 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T17: Write a Welcome Center] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T17#2743 | 18:55 | |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @kc2bez in ci the buidling is done by packaging info? | 19:58 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I mean, maybe there is an issuw with packaging | 19:59 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [when tryng to use git pcmanfm with released libfm-qt this error araises :"./pcma …], Right, so you need to use libfm-qt from Git as well | 20:02 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> pcmanfm-qt depends on libfm-qt as a library | 20:02 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> If it were me I would simply enable the PPA on a test machine and upgrade | 20:03 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 [pcmanfm-qt depends on libfm-qt as a library], yes, but @kc2bez told me that libfm-qt builds fails in ci https://launchpadlibrarian.net/453526762/buildlog_ubuntu-focal-amd64.libfm-qt_0.14.1+git201911290108~focal-0ubuntu1~ppa1_BUILDING.txt.gz | 20:03 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> That way the entire dependency chain is taken with it | 20:03 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [yes, but @kc2bez told me that libfm-qt builds fails in ci https://launchpadlibra …], Right, with symbols | 20:04 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Fun little things... | 20:04 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I have built libfm-qt in 2 systems w/o problem | 20:04 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @RikMills right? :P | 20:04 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [I have built libfm-qt in 2 systems w/o problem], It's the dependency chain | 20:04 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> libfm-qt depends on libraries that are also built from Git | 20:04 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> So newer versions | 20:04 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> We need to fix the libfm-qt build first | 20:04 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 [We need to fix the libfm-qt build first], yes, i know I did tha on 2 systems. w/o problems | 20:05 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I wonder why it won't buld in ci | 20:05 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> What's your process? | 20:05 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> and I've used plain focal packages for it. | 20:05 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [and I've used plain focal packages for it.], Ahh | 20:05 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Try enabling the PPA when you run it through sbuild | 20:06 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> So just a default focal sbuild run with libfm-qt (as a baseline) and then run it through again with the CI PPA enabled | 20:06 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> If I'm understanding you correctly, those should produce different outputs | 20:06 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> mm I don't get it. | 20:07 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> I would expect the libfm-qt build with only focal packages to succeed and the CI-enabled build to fail | 20:07 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> aaaaa, ok | 20:07 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> now I get it. | 20:07 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Okay :) | 20:07 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Simplified scientific method ;) | 20:08 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 [So just a default focal sbuild run with libfm-qt (as a baseline) and then run it …], To keep that ppa persistent across builds, change the pristine image. Right @teward001 ? | 20:08 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker [To keep that ppa persistent across builds, change the pristine image. Right @tew …], That's correct | 20:08 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> However, I don't have a clean chroot with a PPA enabled unless the PPA changes base packages | 20:08 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> You can enable a PPA as an argument when you run sbuild | 20:08 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> It's called golden image i guess. on that wiki page i sent earlier @HMollerCl | 20:08 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Right | 20:09 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> isn't better to use a container than sbuild or chroot? | 20:09 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 [You can enable a PPA as an argument when you run sbuild], Nah. Too many arguments in one line. Let me do it separately | 20:09 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker [It's called golden image i guess. on that wiki page i sent earlier @HMollerCl], Again, I see where you're coming from, and yes that's technically correct, but in practice it can get difficult to maintain | 20:09 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> lxd? | 20:09 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 [Again, I see where you're coming from, and yes that's technically correct, but i …], I know | 20:09 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [isn't better to use a container than sbuild or chroot?], YMMV | 20:09 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [lxd?], Faar better and easier | 20:09 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> YMMW? | 20:10 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> YMCA? | 20:10 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> I use sbuild schroots | 20:10 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [YMMW?], Your Mileage May Vary | 20:10 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [YMCA?], Bahahaha | 20:10 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> But can we create lxd of different architectures? Wxl: | 20:10 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> We can, yes | 20:10 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Again, it depends on your use case | 20:10 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [YMCA?], Circle, Narayanguda, Hyd, India. | 20:10 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Just completing the address. XD | 20:11 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker [Circle, Narayanguda, Hyd, India.], Hahahaha | 20:11 |
| lubot | <UniversalSuperBox> @HMollerCl [YMCA?], ITS FUN TO STAY AT THE | 20:11 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @UniversalSuperBox [ITS FUN TO STAY AT THE], *does arm motions* | 20:11 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 [We can, yes], I didn't know that. Will have to try it then. | 20:12 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> But @HMollerCl since you set up sbuild today, i suggest go with it only for now. Set up lxd later, takes a bit of time. It's like seeing the whole system again. | 20:13 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> There is an important distinction I want to make here... | 20:13 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> *setting | 20:13 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> If you want a set container environment that you can easily iterate on changes, LXD is great | 20:13 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> However, if you need to have an ephemeral build environment (for example, testing a build before uploading), use an schroot with sbuild | 20:14 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Like I said before, YMMV | 20:14 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Also, sbuild closely mimics the actual packaging environment na? As compared to lxd? | 20:14 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> wxl (rightfully so) pushes LXD hard but it's not the end-all be-all answer | 20:15 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker [Also, sbuild closely mimics the actual packaging environment na? As compared to …], It more closely resembles how packages are built in the Ubuntu infrastructure, he's | 20:15 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> However, here's where it gets fun... | 20:15 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> In the infrastructure they run autopkgtests... With LXD XD | 20:15 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Lol! | 20:16 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> So part of the infra uses LXD and for testing autopkgtests I would use it | 20:16 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> However, that's mostly outside the scope of our work here | 20:16 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Anyway, my point is, yes, you can use LXD, but we want our local testing to resemble what the actual infra uses Just In Case | 20:17 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker [But @HMollerCl since you set up sbuild today, i suggest go with it only for now. …], thanks, but actually is teh other way around. I have lxd and have not sbuild. | 20:18 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Oh. Okay. | 20:33 |
| wxl | OMG GITHUB HAS CODE NAVIGATION WTH | 20:57 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> Microsponge? | 21:03 |
| wxl | wait what/ XD | 21:16 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> Pinky and the Brain, Microsponge | 21:37 |
| wxl | ohhhh wow nice | 21:38 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> wait what/ XD], +1 | 22:06 |
| wxl | i think pinky and the brain is officially a boomer show | 22:07 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Oh. | 22:08 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> OMG GITHUB HAS CODE NAVIGATION WTH], So no reference to this? | 22:08 |
| wxl | it is | 22:16 |
| wxl | but a very vague one | 22:16 |
| kc2bez | It looks like language support is somewhat limited but python is one of the supported. | 22:18 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @kc2bez [<kc2bez> It looks like language support is somewhat limited but python is one of …], It's a start. | 22:19 |
| kc2bez | Yeah, it is pretty nice. | 22:20 |
| wxl | i like this suggestion of a terminal interface to cala https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/not-using-an-attached-vga-monitor-may-make-installation-impossible/554 | 22:21 |
| wxl | c* isn't even on the list of work in progress for the underlying library boooo https://github.com/github/semantic#language-support | 22:22 |
| wxl | but haskell? good god people | 22:22 |
| wxl | i mean i like haskell but come on | 22:23 |
| wxl | i'm going to come out with a new language and call it avocado toast. it'll be that hip. | 22:23 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Okay boomer | 22:23 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> XD | 22:23 |
| wxl | whatever. you'll use it | 22:23 |
| wxl | we'll denote lambdas with emojis. probably exploding head. | 22:25 |
| wxl | or hahahahah the recycle emoji X''''D | 22:25 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALfbd251282c8a: Fix capitilization] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALfbd251282c8a | 23:41 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL40955dfa5566: Fix capitlization] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL40955dfa5566 | 23:41 | |
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