[00:35]  * tumbleweed has a look
[00:36] <tumbleweed> seems alive to me
[00:36] <tumbleweed> ah, right
[01:23] <xnox> vorlon:  and guest tools in the say bionic guest, don't need to match the guest *stuff* on focal host, right?
[01:48] <vorlon> xnox: even if they did, there would be no need for 32-bit focal bits
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[05:30] <ginggs> would someone please 'force-badtest  samtools/all/i386 vcftools/all/i386 snpomatic/all/i386' ?
[06:10] <vorlon> ginggs: done
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[06:32] <ginggs> vorlon: ta!
[06:49] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks vorlon and infinity !
[06:50] <LocutusOfBorg> I admit, the request was not so clear in my mind, I still need to properly figure out what the support will be and how... (so I presume some libraries needed for valve&co, wine or something similar)
[06:51] <LocutusOfBorg> btw, gsoap might migrate if we remove some i386 binaries...
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[09:12] <doko> vorlon: is there some documentation which i386 packages are still built, and which ones are not?
[09:15] <ginggs> doko: there's a whitelist https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/packagesets/focal/i386-whitelist
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[09:18] <LocutusOfBorg> do we have any AA that can do removals of i386 binaries for: cgsi-gsoap davix kopanocore srm-ifce voms?
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[09:18] <LocutusOfBorg> I would like to see if we need something else for migration, but Britney is not even running tests
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[12:09] <tjaalton> xnox: hi, open-iscsi sru is still unverified after sitting in proposed for a month, and another upload is pending..
[12:10] <tjaalton> xnox: oh, it's for the same bug?
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[12:31] <xnox> tjaalton:  yes, previous upload was incomplete.
[12:31] <tjaalton> xnox: right, accepted
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[12:39] <tjaalton> vorlon: cleared the queue again for fwupd/fwupdate ;)
[15:52] <tjaalton> looks like autopkgtest.u.c needs to know i386 isn't a thing on focal anymore?
[16:03] <juliank> tjaalton: but it is, cross-testing on amd64?
[16:11] <tjaalton> juliank: i386 tests failing because they can't find packages
[16:12] <juliank> tjaalton: yes, there could be some trouble atm, as the autopkgtest infra is probably not ready yet, but are they failing to find their own packages or test dependencies?
[16:13] <juliank> I don't know any concrete plans, unfortunately
[16:13] <tjaalton> both aiui, but ok, it'll get sorted eventually
[16:14] <juliank> but given that we do ship some i386 libraries we certainly should not stop testing stuff
[16:14] <tjaalton> but only those that get built
[16:14] <juliank> yes that'd make sense
[16:14] <tjaalton> not leaf pkgs that don't have debs ;)
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[17:25] <vorlon> doko, ginggs: you might also want to refer to the seed, which is the definition of what's included in that packageset once germinated https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/i386.focal/i386.seedtext
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[17:59] <ginggs> vorlon: thanks
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[18:22] <vorlon> so properly seeding livecd-rootfs on i386 instead of having manually added it to the packageset as a one-off means now golang-defaults and ghc are in the packageset lol?  Guess I should make some of those deps arch-specific
[18:23] <vorlon> mwhudson: side effect, it means golang-defaults is currently in the packageset so I did a self-copy so you'll get a build and it can unblock
[19:00] <infinity> vorlon: livecd-rootfs pulls in... haskell?
[19:03] <cjwatson> pandoc somehow?
[19:05] <cjwatson> Oh, shellcheck
[19:05] <infinity> Yeah, just got there.
[19:05] <cjwatson> b-d of initramfs-tools
[19:05] <cjwatson> Not sure how you're gonna avoid that one
[19:06] <infinity> Don't run it on i386?  That's easy enough.
[19:06] <infinity> You don't really need to check your shell on 6 arches.
[19:06] <cjwatson> shellcheck is M-A: foreign
[19:06] <cjwatson> So the germinate hack I'm halfway through reviewing should probably sort it out?
[19:06] <infinity> Oh, or that.
[19:07] <infinity> Wait, no.
[19:07] <cjwatson> (It's in my queue.  I'm trying to decide whether the bit I'm currently on is grotty but OK, or unacceptable)
[19:07] <infinity> Cause we build i386 on i386.
[19:07] <infinity> With no foreign arches.
[19:07] <cjwatson> Er yeah
[19:07] <infinity> But just restricting the build-dep and not running it on i386 seems reasonable to cull ghc.
[19:07] <cjwatson> So can't avoid the dep in livecd-rootfs, but could avoid the b-d in i-t
[19:10]  * infinity fixes that now.
[22:06] <doko> vorlon: sorry, can't find that in the seeds archive
[22:06] <doko> so what should I do, if
[22:06] <doko>  - I'd like to get gcc-7 building again on i386?
[22:07] <doko>  - to add gcc-10, gcc-10-cross, gcc-10-cross-ports?
[22:07] <doko>  - to add creduce
[22:21] <vorlon> doko: it is its own seed pod, lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/i386.  gcc-10-cross* should be a strong no, i386 is not a host arch and nobody should need cross-compilers for an i386 build arch on focal.  gcc-10, probably worth future-proofing just in case we continue on past focal, so it should be added - but you probably have to manually add it to the packageset for bootstrapping purposes
[22:21] <vorlon> (since germinate only works on binaries that actually exist).  And why do you want creduce?
[22:26] <doko> to investigate toolchain issues on i386?
[22:26] <doko> ok on gcc-10-cross*
[22:27] <doko> so what to do about packages not on the whitelist that don't have a build record, and that you want to add?
[23:35] <vorlon> doko: 1) add it to the packageset by hand, 2) copy-package -b --force-same-destination (to cause the build record to be generated), 3) add it to the seed, 4) confirm after germinate-output regenerates that update-i386-whitelist --dry-run (from https://code.launchpad.net/~vorlon/ubuntu-archive-tools/update-i386-whitelist/+merge/376042) does what you expect
[23:36] <vorlon> doko: why do you need creduce to be an i386 package, instead of an amd64 package, to debug i386 toolchain issues?  looks "cross" installable to me