[01:07] <testxubuntu> ...does xubuntu 18.04.3 really not come with a disk manager gui program fresh out of an install? or do i just not know its special executable name?
[01:30] <sublevel> testxubuntu: I didn't find one,  installed gnome-disks
[02:00] <testxubuntu> 10 years ago the last time I looked at xubuntu, I coulda sworn it included gparted?
[02:00] <testxubuntu> so odd to omit such a valuable piece of software.
[03:04] <Regor> how to enable spell checker in nano ? i am using weechat and aspell works great .
[03:21] <testxubuntu> i think you need to uncomment this line in the /etc/nanorc file:  # set speller "aspell -x -c"
[03:26] <Regor> ok i see this
[03:31] <Regor> line  is already there  **# set speller "aspell -x -c"  **
[03:33] <testxubuntu> you'll need to remove the # part and the asterisks
[03:36] <Regor> testxubuntu: actually command is exactly as it is ....
[03:36] <Regor> its same
[03:39] <Regor> i got it earlier https://askubuntu.com/questions/48920/getting-error-with-spell-check-in-nano
[03:39] <Regor> but it useless
[04:44] <bleb> passwd says my password is too simple
[04:44] <bleb> how do i override?
[04:50] <tomreyn> bleb: use a secure password, or uninstall libpam-cracklib
[04:55] <bleb> tomreyn: Package 'libpam-cracklib' is not installed, so not removed
[04:56] <Unit193> libpam-passwdqc is the more fun one anyway.
[04:57] <bleb> Package 'libpam-passwdqc' is not installed, so not removed
[04:57] <bleb> :(
[04:58] <bleb> this is xubuntu 18.04
[04:59] <tomreyn> bleb: hmm, so i guess it's one of the other *cracklib* or *passwd* packages you have installed: apt list --installed '*passwd*' '*crack*'
[04:59] <tomreyn> don't force removal of essential packages, though
[04:59] <bleb> yeah
[04:59] <tomreyn> post your output for the above if you like
[05:00] <tomreyn> ...to a pastebin
[05:00] <bleb> Listing... Done
[05:00] <bleb> base-passwd/bionic,now 3.5.44 amd64 [installed]
[05:00] <bleb> passwd/bionic-updates,now 1:4.5-1ubuntu2 amd64 [installed]
[05:00] <bleb> didnt need a pastebin
[05:00] <tomreyn> nothing with *crack*?
[05:01] <bleb> nope nothing
[05:01] <tomreyn> apt list --installed '*passwd*' '*crack*' '*pwquality*'
[05:02] <bleb> yeah nothing for pwquality either
[05:02] <bleb> just the two i already listed
[05:02] <tomreyn> can you show the message you get?
[05:03] <bleb> its literally the same as what i already pasted
[05:04] <tomreyn> "my password is too simple"?
[05:04] <bleb> oh i thought you meant for the apt command
[05:05] <Unit193> tomreyn: It means it's super short, he can force it with 'sudo passwd bleb' btw, though honestly with how short it is I'd rather recommend something better.
[05:05] <Unit193> bleb: passwxqc isn't installed by default, that wasn't a recommendation for removal.
[05:05] <bleb> tomreyn: Bad: new password is too simple
[05:06] <Unit193> tomreyn: https://sources.debian.org/src/pam/1.3.1-5/debian/patches-applied/007_modules_pam_unix/?hl=359#L359
[05:06] <tomreyn> Unit193: ah so its really just the most simple tests
[05:06] <tomreyn> that's why i was looking for the actual message
[05:07] <Unit193> cooooodeeeesearrch.
[05:07] <tomreyn> :)
[05:07] <tomreyn> yes its awesome that debian has that
[05:07] <Unit193> Luckily they're close enough for the most part it doesn't matter.
[05:08] <tomreyn> and luckily they're open source for the very most part
[05:08] <Unit193> Hmm?
[05:08] <bleb> sudo passwd <username> worked, thanks
[05:09] <bleb> is there an easy way to see when that patch was applied to debian
[05:09] <tomreyn> i think ubuntu is trying to move away from open source a bit more with snaps
[05:12] <Unit193> Ah, well core things still work without snapd.  I don't have a single one installed, nor do I have snapd/flatpak.
[05:14] <tomreyn> bleb: if you're into source code management you can look at https://salsa.debian.org/vorlon/pam/blame/master/debian/patches-applied/007_modules_pam_unix (but i'm not sure whether it goes back enough in history)
[05:14] <tomreyn> atually 17 years could be correct
[05:17] <bleb> wow im surprised i hadnt noticed it before
[05:18] <bleb> i guess i usually want complex enough passwords :)
[05:18] <tomreyn> Unit193: i suspect it will change, seeing how more and more is being migrated to and building on top of it.
[05:19] <tomreyn> using gnome-shell you already depend on it
[05:19] <Unit193> I'm in #xubuntu, I don't use that. ;)
[05:19] <tomreyn> you have a point there (for now) ;)
[05:20] <bleb> night all and thanks for the help
[05:20] <Unit193> Sure thing, bleb.
[05:21] <tomreyn> sleept tight
[05:22] <Unit193> Well, as long as I have a voice in Xubuntu, we'll not require snapd. :)
[05:22] <Unit193> But I'm wandering a bit from the topic.
[05:23] <tomreyn> it's good to hear this, though.
[05:25] <Unit193> Maybe not as good as you think, I also help with packaging of Xfce in Debian, so I have an easy fallback. :3
[05:39] <tomreyn> I'm planning on falling back to Debian soon, too.
[05:40] <tomreyn> Or rather: I am, maybe not you, yet.
[05:40] <Unit193> Hrm, I don't seem to share any social channels with you.
[05:43] <tomreyn> maybe i'm not social enough ;)
[05:44] <tomreyn> i'm in #debian-offtopic but i'm not sure i'd call this a social channel.
[09:41] <Regor> unfortunately ubuntu ( like most distros) is doing contrary to foss ideals on which project started . its not going to be soon a " unix-like" OS but changing over to windows-like/mac-like os .
[11:14] <Noboru55> Hello, some days ago i rebooted the xubuntu with 2 terminal emulators openned..  now, everytime i login the Xubuntu starts with these 2 emulator terminals..
[11:15] <Noboru55> i already saw the sessions and there is nothing... what could it be ? something in user configuration? profile?
[11:16] <Noboru55> tried to find something on google, but it only says to see the sessions....
[13:01] <Noboru55> hello
[13:18] <Noboru55> hope i don't need to install again the Xubuntu
[14:01] <Noboru55> hello, would be possible to copy files via terminal and see the progress of the copy?
[14:01] <gnrp> Noboru55: Use rsync with `--progress`
[14:02] <gnrp> Noboru55: For the terminal thing: Did you check your autostart stuff?
[14:02] <Noboru55> gnrp great! thank you
[14:02] <Noboru55> about my other problem, the X starts and 2 terminals open... there is nothing in sessions, maybe i could create a new user to see if it happens to a new user
[14:02] <Noboru55> because i tried everything and i did not found the problem
[14:03] <gnrp> I don't know where to look, but I'd do a grep in .local, .cache and .config for "xfce4-term" or so
[14:04] <brainwash> clear ~/.cache/sessions
[14:05] <Noboru55> brainwash omg.. it is what i was waiting for
[14:05] <Noboru55> brainwash thank u
[14:05] <Noboru55> gnrp thanks for the hint rsync
[14:05] <Noboru55> ^^ u are great
[14:06] <Noboru55> brainwash what option?
[14:06] <Noboru55> clear ~/.cache/sessionsUsage: clear [options]Options:  -T TERM     use this instead of $TERM  -V          print curses-version  -x          do not try to clear scrollback
[14:06] <brainwash> rm ~/.cache/sessions/*
[14:07] <Noboru55> ah.. lol..
[14:07] <brainwash> my "clear" was not a command
[14:07] <Noboru55> i see
[14:07] <Noboru55> i see
[14:07] <Noboru55> brainwash thanks  !
[14:11] <Noboru55> brainwash WORKED!
[14:12] <Noboru55> :D
[14:13] <brainwash> managing sessions is quite easy in Xfce 4.14
[14:13] <brainwash> some work went into improving it
[14:14] <brainwash> you can view and delete sessions via the settings guy
[14:14] <brainwash> gui
[14:15] <Noboru55> i looked there and i did not found options for my problem
[14:15] <Noboru55> maybe because i am using 18.04
[14:16] <Noboru55> i was trying looking each file in local.. cache... and nothing.. but now i am understanding how it works..
[14:17] <Noboru55> omg i really like this rsync ...  now a question, when use this when use cp
[14:17] <Noboru55> when use it... sorry my english
[14:19] <Noboru55> i don't know why, but in my poor hardware the xubuntu 19.10 works weird... slow... the 18.04 works great
[14:19] <Noboru55> i'll wait till the xubuntu 20 to install a new o.s
[14:19] <Noboru55> its close
[14:21] <Noboru55> ah the 19.10 my video doesn't work correctly..
[23:47] <renata444> after the 19.10  upgrade I have 2 issues, #1. when I log out, click power button in menu, click shutdown.....nothing happens except the menu closes and im on the desktop again. I have to repeat this a second time and THEN it shuts down. Any ideas?