[11:34] <tarzeau> qemu is broken, i want  local x, but it keeps telling me: Display 'gtk' is not available. (nor sdl) instead it wants freaking vnc
[11:35] <tarzeau> debian has it right with 4.1-3 but focal still has 4.0+dfsg-0ubuntu10 :(
[11:35] <tarzeau> should i file an lp bug?
[11:43] <cpaelzer> sdl was removed, gtk should be available
[11:44] <cpaelzer> but gtk is an extension (to avoid pulling in too much dependencies)
[11:44] <cpaelzer> have you insatlled the package (... checks what the name is ...)
[11:44] <cpaelzer> "qemu-system-gui"
[11:44] <cpaelzer> tarzeau: ^^ ?
[11:46] <tarzeau> cpaelzer: thanks, after installing that it works :)
[11:46] <cpaelzer> great
[11:46] <cpaelzer> also a newer qemu will come once 4.2 is available
[11:46] <cpaelzer> well after christmas break I guess
[11:46] <tarzeau> any reason to skip archive sync of 4.1 from debian?
[11:47] <cpaelzer> interim updates usually only make a very very small amount of people happy but break many places that rely on virtualization for testing
[11:47] <cpaelzer> so I try to merge it once per cycle and that is then on the planned target version of the release
[11:47] <cpaelzer> after that only bug fixes
[11:47] <cpaelzer> no major version change
[11:49] <tarzeau> i see
[11:49] <cpaelzer> tarzeau: also Debian has --disable-sdl as well
[11:49] <tarzeau> i like sdl, certainly more than vnc or gtk
[11:50] <cpaelzer> sdl1 becomes more an more a gigantic dept to maintain and sdl2 had way too mcuh issues
[11:50] <tarzeau> i've never had issues with either version
[11:50] <cpaelzer> me neither, but a reasonable number of bugs pointed at Debian/Ubuntu had
[11:51] <tarzeau> debian import freeze 27th feb 2020, what if i got stuff stuck in debian new queue, but i'd like to see them with ubuntu 2020 lts?
[11:52] <cpaelzer> tarzeau: once you think you'll stay stuck you should try to hit Ubuntus new queue with an upload of the same
[11:52] <cpaelzer> and have a bug to discuss this with the archive admins
[11:53] <tarzeau> i'm not a canonical/ubuntu employee, i doubt i can upload anything to that queue you mean
[11:53] <cpaelzer> but our freezes aren't mcuh different IIRC
[11:53] <tarzeau> but i can point relevant people to my source packages?
[11:53] <cpaelzer> Feb 27th https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseSchedule
[11:54] <cpaelzer> as I said not too mcuh gain by that
[11:54] <tarzeau> i meant ubuntu import freeze of course
[11:54] <tarzeau> ok thanks
[15:52] <Odd_Bloke> Hey folks, I just did a `sudo apt install nvidia-driver-440` and rebooted, and my system has come back up still using the nouveau driver.  Does anyone know how I can debug why that's happened?
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> Odd_Bloke: wich graphics card chipet please?
[15:54] <Odd_Bloke> lotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vTsZRr4wdT/
[15:54] <Odd_Bloke> (`ubuntu-drivers devices`)
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> big RTX card might need the latest driver from the ubuntu graphics ppa Odd_Bloke 
[15:56] <Odd_Bloke> I was successfully running the drivers from the archive previously; I removed them because I was seeing kernel panics and was working on debugging those.
[15:59] <Odd_Bloke> Oh, looks like the modules just weren't installed for my running kernel.
[15:59] <Odd_Bloke> That would explain it. :p
[16:05] <Odd_Bloke> OK, now I'm seeing this in dmesg: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zD25HQGyY7/
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> wich driver version are you getting that warning?
[16:17] <Odd_Bloke> lotuspsychje: 440