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| AppAraat[m] | hi, I plugged in my DAC (Chord Mojo) and started JACK, but I can't control the volume of it by software. Either using `alsamixer` or `pavucontrol`. This is log output when I plugged it in: https://paste.debian.net/1120654/ | 14:16 |
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| AppAraat[m] | (so only hardware volume controls work which are the buttons on the device itself) | 14:17 |
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| OvenWerks | AppAraat[m]: Many USB (and perhaps other) devices do not have any software controls. | 18:14 |
| AppAraat[m] | oh, hmm. Yeah someone recommended me to get a mixer somewhere in between JACK and ALSA. I'll have to look at how I can control it from the CLI so I can map those controls to my i3wm keybindings. | 18:19 |
| OvenWerks | Ya, one of us needs to make such a mixer :) | 18:22 |
| OvenWerks | There is jack mixer | 18:22 |
| OvenWerks | but it is not cl controlable... so it would take a cli to jack midi to control it :P | 18:23 |
| OvenWerks | jackminimix is osc controlable which may be easier as the ocs commands can be send from command line using oscsend | 18:25 |
| AppAraat[m] | oh, interesting, interesting. These are all the pointers/// that I will do absolutely nothing with because knowing the lazy ass that I am, I'll just keep pushing buttons on my DAC :p | 18:32 |
| AppAraat[m] | did I think this out loud? I did, didn't I? :p | 18:33 |
| OvenWerks | Thats ok... it has been the same with making a jack output volume control... it will probably not get done anytime soon :) For similar reasons | 18:36 |
| OvenWerks | Thinking about it, a commandline interface is not that easy. | 18:36 |
| OvenWerks | Something like osc control or dbus control really does make the most sense for that | 18:37 |
| OvenWerks | a wraper that is easier to use would be ok, something that just takes a value like 50 or +1 or something would be about right | 18:39 |
| OvenWerks | but that still leaves the user with making their connetions manually to the mixer rather than the system outputs (which many apps do for you) | 18:39 |
| OvenWerks | so it would be a disconnect and reconnect thing by hand. | 18:40 |
| OvenWerks | A better way would be to change the alsa backend to include a volume control. | 18:41 |
| AppAraat[m] | >so it would be a disconnect and reconnect thing by hand. | 18:44 |
| AppAraat[m] | It's possible to save JACK sessions, right? Is that not something that can be done somewhat automatically? | 18:44 |
| OvenWerks | jack-plumbing might do that too. | 18:45 |
| AppAraat[m] | JACK has so...much...options :S | 18:46 |
| * OvenWerks thinks options are good. | 19:00 | |
| corshmock | Hi OvenWerks | 19:03 |
| corshmock | I've been trying to follow your model of installing different distros instead of vms. Unfortunately, I haven't been having much luck :( | 19:04 |
| OvenWerks | So are you going to tell me why? where you had trouble? | 19:08 |
| OvenWerks | So far I have found it easier to test thing with more than one partition than with a VM... but then I have been doing it this way for so long (since the 90s) that I have had no reason to even try VMs | 19:10 |
| corshmock | I start with ubuntu, create a partition for centos. I go to install centos and I can't select the partition, so I wipe ubuntu. I've tried it the other way round and I wipe centos. | 19:15 |
| OvenWerks | when installing ubuntu you need to choose the something else option | 19:16 |
| OvenWerks | so install centos first (though I am sure it has anoption to install alongside another os) and then you can choose what aprtition ubuntu is installed on. | 19:17 |
| AppAraat[m] | what is that model of installing distros? | 19:18 |
| OvenWerks | AppAraat[m]: ??? I don't understand the question | 19:18 |
| AppAraat[m] | corshmock said: "I've been trying to follow your model of installing different distros instead of vms" | 19:19 |
| * OvenWerks wanders off to be with his wife for a bit | 19:19 | |
| AppAraat[m] | \o | 19:19 |
| corshmock | centos doesn't seem to ubuntu and likewise ubuntu doesn't seem to see centos. I've gone for the something else option. Can't see a way to do it. | 19:20 |
| corshmock | AppAraat[m]: OvenWerks is able to install different distros alongside each other | 19:21 |
| AppAraat[m] | oh, like dual booting? | 19:21 |
| corshmock | AppAraat[m]: correct! Or more like multi booting | 19:22 |
| AppAraat[m] | if so, then do note that choosing to encrypt (home folders) will make things a bit difficult. | 19:22 |
| corshmock | I could do it no problem installing linux along side a windows installation | 19:22 |
| corshmock | No encryption involved | 19:23 |
| AppAraat[m] | hmm, you could start with a full disk for ubuntu, then when installing centos choose "install alongside ubuntu" and then resize it there in the installer? | 19:25 |
| corshmock | No such option AppAraat[m] | 19:34 |
| corshmock | They will see a windows install but not another Linux install for some reason | 19:35 |
| AppAraat[m] | is GRUB installed on there? | 19:35 |
| corshmock | No sign of grub | 19:35 |
| corshmock | I think I'm going to have to go with vms | 19:36 |
| AppAraat[m] | when you install a linux distro it always asks you if you want to install grub, it's a smart choice to do so. Could be it. Then again I haven't really bothered with dual booting myself. | 19:37 |
| corshmock | If I saw an option to install grub I would certainly have selected it. I've spent more time lately installing Linux. I really don't believe grub has been an option. I don't like the idea of installing vms on my Ubuntu install. I wish OvenWerks could remote onto my laptop and install what I need :) | 19:40 |
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