[03:41] robert_ancell: hi. there was some discussion last night about snapd-glib's "Recommends: snapd" dependency. [03:42] robert_ancell: more details in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1856054 [03:42] Ubuntu bug 1856054 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "pulseaudio now depends on libsnapd-glib1 which recommends snapd" [High,Confirmed] [03:42] what do you think about switching it to "Suggests: snapd"? [03:42] jamesh, I've uploaded SRUs to all supported releases. [03:43] robert_ancell: ah. Hadn't seen that it got split off into a second bug report [03:43] See bug 1856196 [03:43] bug 1856196 in snapd-glib (Ubuntu Focal) "Lower the snapd recommends to a suggests" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1856196 [06:13] good morning desktoppers [06:17] Morning oSoMoN [06:33] hey duflu [07:05] bonjour everyone [07:29] salut jibel [07:29] Hi jibel [08:08] happy friday desktopers! [08:09] Hi seb128 [08:10] How goes? [08:10] hey duflu, I'm doing well thanks! how are you? [08:11] seb128, almost finished diagnosing and fixing the perf regressions that happened while I was away. So very good [08:11] great [08:46] morning oSoMoN duflu jibel and seb128 [08:46] Hi marcustomlinson [08:46] hey marcustomlinson, how are you today? [08:47] seb128: quite well thanks :) [09:03] hey [09:12] hey Laney [09:13] oSoMoN: hi, eoan sru queue still has tbird 68.2.2 while it's already in -updates? [09:24] hey hey Laney [09:31] hey marcustomlinson duflu [09:34] seb128: for the Pulse Audio dependency problem, do we need to produce new versions of the package, or can we republish the version that was pulled once the new snapd-glib is in proposed? [09:36] hey jamesh :) [09:36] hi marcustomlinson [09:37] tjaalton, yes, it should be deleted from the queue, I initially thought it wouldn't go through the usual security updates, which is why I uploaded it to the queue [09:37] ok [10:36] jamesh, we can republish the same one, also we kept it in proposed [10:36] hey Laney, how are you? happy friday! [10:36] seb128: awesome. [10:36] lut oSoMoN [11:04] shrug, canonistack is so slow, 100M of debs to install, 10 min and it has done 15% :-/ [11:05] you should use a local raspberry pi instead :P [11:06] salut seb128 [11:07] it's an amd64 canonical instance [11:07] oSoMoN, en forme ? [11:07] bien, et toi? [11:07] ça va ! [11:10] ok, that's ridiculous, I'm going to for lunch, hopefully it will have installed those packages once I'm back... [11:11] yeah, I/O is very slow on canonistack [11:12] 10 mins to install 15MB of debs sounds much slower than what I'm used to, though [11:13] hey seb128 & oSoMoN [11:13] hey Laney [11:13] all good? [11:18] bit glum [11:18] but I'm ok [11:51] It's almost cooled down to 30°C here. [11:52] don't miss that kind of heat :/ [11:52] the heat wave should break on monday [11:53] it'll only be 34 max then [11:59] yeah, much better, don't forget a coat [14:53] seb128: that's on the new bos01 region right? [15:04] kenvandine, yes [15:16] good morning everyone! [15:18] hey hellsworth, happy friday! how are you? [15:20] hi seb128 . i'm ok and you :) [15:20] seems like quite some heat in the southern hemisphere [15:20] I'm pretty good, it's friday :) [15:20] the temps jamesh has in C is our temp here in F [15:20] lol [15:20] friday the 13th no less [15:21] are you going to watch any scary movies? [15:21] actually, is that a thing in europe? [15:23] that's not a think in Europe afaik [15:23] ah ok [15:23] it's a luck/unlucky day, depending to what you believe [15:23] see our country is so young we have to come up with things to celebrate since there aren't too many holiday s:) [15:24] it's rather a "play the lotterie" day in France if anything [15:24] normally i would watch some really bad scary movie. like evil dead or something. [15:24] but tonight i need to bake to get ready for my daughter's birthday party tomorrow [15:25] oh, happy birthday to her! big milestone for you as well I guess :) [15:26] indeed. i'll post a picture tomorrow [15:26] great :) [15:26] we also will be opening a very nice bottle of scotch to celebrate :) [15:26] i'm very excited [15:26] that's the spirit! [15:26] lol yes it is! [15:26] :-) [15:48] is there a known bug about /indicator|notification|tray/ icons going away in GNOME on eoan? I lost my Remmina icon altogether, and the KeepassXC one plays hide'n'seek [16:43] marcustomlinson: desktop-launch sees some nice improvements with my PR [16:43] cold start goes from 0.846 down to 0.184 [16:43] is github super slow for anyone else? [16:43] kenvandine: holy moly [16:43] 2nd start goes from 0.115 down to 0.089 [16:44] kenvandine: how did you get it even better than the version in snapcraft? [16:44] those fixes haven't been released in snapcraft! [16:44] oh wow [16:44] very nice! [16:44] they were merged right after 3.9 was released [16:45] marcustomlinson: mind reviewing https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/200 [16:45] ubuntu issue (Pull request) 200 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "Performance improvements backported from snapcraft extension" [Open] [16:45] kenvandine: sure will do [16:45] hellsworth: github doesn't seem slow to me [16:45] nice changes to desktop helpers kenvandine! [16:45] i wouldn't have thought that a simple check before mkdir -p would make that much difference [16:45] they were really from galagash :) [16:46] yeah, seriously! [16:46] turns out mkdir is expensive [16:46] i guess so [16:47] yeah humm only github.com/snapcore/snapcraft is slow [16:47] must be the friday 13th voodoo :) === heather is now known as hellsworth [16:54] kenvandine: just one small comment. sorry ocd [16:55] marcustomlinson: they're actually I think ;) [16:58] hmm [17:00] I'm am really confused. github diff shows the lines indented differently but pulling the branch looks fine locally. all spaces, no tabs either [17:04] github is super slow [17:05] and now I can't comment anymore. anyways looks good kenvandine, approved [17:09] yeah i'm having troubles commenting too [17:09] rebooted and didn't help [17:10] definitely screwy [17:13] marcustomlinson: did you just say you prefer 3 space indentation? [17:13] * kenvandine is confused... [17:13] kenvandine: no the spacing is fine, github is doing something odd there [17:14] kenvandine: but I'm actually confused about this PR now that I think more about it [17:14] oh... looks fine to me [17:14] how are we getting gains from ensure_dir_exists [17:14] nothing should exist at all on first run [17:14] so mkdir should be called for every one right? [17:14] no gains on first run from that specific change [17:14] just the icon cache fix [17:15] which is pretty significant on first run [17:15] ok ok I get it [17:15] big gain on just that wow [17:15] the mkdir fix helps on the second run [17:15] indeed [17:17] kenvandine: so you don't see this indent discrepancy: https://imgur.com/a/IZdPUxc [17:18] line 396 is good, then the next 4 lines are one space too short [17:18] but not in the actual file if I download it [17:18] anyway, ignore the comment [17:19] wow... that is weird [17:19] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/68R3Zprg/Screenshot%20from%202019-12-13%2012-19-33.png [17:20] why would that render differently [17:20] just the sort of thing that happens on a friday [17:20] friday the 13th :) [17:21] /o\ [17:22] well the election results certainly feel cursed [17:22] but maybe scotland will be safe. maybe. [17:23] aye [18:01] happy weekend all [18:01] you too Laney! [18:01] cheers Laney [18:02] kenvandine: for completeness, added a note to my post about why chromium and irccloud-desktop showed slower desktop-launch times [18:03] and with that I'm out, have a good weekend all [18:04] oh one last thing [18:05] oSoMoN: you may want to rebuild the chromium snap as soon as kenvandine get's his PR merged into desktop-helpers :) [18:07] should give the snap about half a second faster cold run (https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/200) [18:07] ubuntu issue (Pull request) 200 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "Performance improvements backported from snapcraft extension" [Open] [18:10] kenvandine: by the way, I don't have write access to snapcraft-desktop-helpers, so I can't merge your PR myself [18:11] marcustomlinson: i can fix that [18:11] but i' [18:12] but i'll merge this, just want to build another snap with it for testing [18:12] cool [18:12] kenvandine: how about chromium ;) [18:13] i was thinking something that builds a little faster [18:13] :D [18:13] alright, I'm really out now, byyyye [18:13] cheers! [18:14] hey kenvandine what are your thoughts on https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2794/files/1a00748ba0b3c6362582c4170df62244940f7470#r357421762 [18:14] snapcore issue (Pull request) 2794 in snapcraft "Add gnome 3 34 extension" [Open] [18:14] idk the thought process behind having dicts with one item [18:25] multiple bases [18:25] we'll have a core20 [18:31] i know there will be a core20 base but how will this affect the extension? [18:32] marcustomlinson, kenvandine: I'll definitely rebuild the chromium snap with the new desktop helpers [18:32] maybe we'll just have to cross that bridge when we come to it [18:32] thanks for working on this! [18:33] not right now though, I'm baby-sitting full time [18:33] have a great week-end everyone! [18:33] you too oSoMoN ! [18:34] marcustomlinson: merged [18:40] doesn't it feel good to merge something on a friday :) [19:35] kenvandine: i got recipes to build with the gnome-3-34 extension! [19:40] hellsworth: woot [19:41] yep. making cleanups and a coupel changes then will tuck it away for storage until the gnome-3-34 extension is merged [19:41] yay! [19:53] I now have the same but opposite problem on two different machines... [19:54] on my media system, it can never remember to use HDMI audio, and I have to enable it every time [19:55] on my desktop, if my new HDMI monitor goes to sleep, my sound settings like switching to it... also for whatever reason, now when system sounds are played (I have them muted) - it silences my music player too.... [19:59] on desktop; just opening "Sound" was doing it sometimes.. and then I just noticed - it might be scrolling up and a selection issue.. now of course I can't reproduce :/ [20:00] gQuigs: perhaps you're hitting this issue on your media system: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1847570 [20:00] Ubuntu bug 1847570 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu Eoan) "PulseAudio automatically switches to HDMI sound output on login" [Medium,Triaged] [20:00] looks like there's a fix coming up in 20.04 [20:01] hellsworth: awesome! thanks.. I'm going to get right on testing that [20:01] sorry i meant desktop. the one where the hdmi audio is auto switching [20:03] hellsworth: honestly, that might fix both [20:03] worth a try [20:03] and it's much easier for me to upgrade my media box to 20.04, cause that's what it's already running... [20:05] a quick glance through the pulseaudio issues didn't have anything else that sticks out : [20:05] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio?field.searchtext=hdmi&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has [20:05] _patch=&field.has_no_package= [20:05] that's a ridiculous link [20:06] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio and search for hdmi [20:06] if that bug 1847570 doesn't fix your issue, consider opening a new pulseaudio bug in launchpad [20:06] bug 1847570 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu Eoan) "PulseAudio automatically switches to HDMI sound output on login" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1847570 [21:24] thanks, oh well.. it didn't work.. (for media center) although I did find snd_hda_codec_hdmi hdaudioC0D0: HDMI ATI/AMD: no speaker allocation for ELD. I think I just have to figure out how to tell it, that it is a TV... [21:24] (that has it's own speakers..) [21:32] * gQuigs found a bug to read through - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1371919 [21:32] Ubuntu bug 1371919 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "kern.log flooded with "HDMI ATI/AMD: no speaker allocation for ELD"" [Undecided,Confirmed]