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kreyrenhow do i install QEMU on ubuntu00:11
* kreyren needs to run QEMU on docker image using ubuntu-disco and he's too lazy to fetch ubuntu in a stratum 00:13
kreyren(mostly because his OS is hugged up to fetch ubuntu)00:13
ciphergothI just dug out an old laptop running Ubuntu 17.04 Zesty. I'd like to upgrade it to something newer, but I've followed the instructions on upgrading to 17.10, and I'm not seeing a prompt for a distro upgrade. Is that because 17.10 is EOL? What's my way forwards?00:22
ciphergothWhen I run "check-new-release-gtk" it offers me only a few small upgrades, which all fail to download.00:23
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guiverc2ciphergoth, yes 17.10 is EOL so that automatic upgrade path is gone too.  I'd recommend re-instal; maybe using 'something-else' without format; however 17.04 used Unity - 18.04 & later use GNOME is big changes have occurred and something-else (no format) may have less than ideal results; but I'd still use the no-format00:41
guiverc2something else, no format & existing partitions will cause added packages to be noted, system dirs erased, install occurs, prior-added-packages are re-installed, you're asked to reboot - without touching user files providing you don't format; thus my suggestion ciphergoth00:42
ciphergothIs there a route without reinstalling? If I could just install 17.10, I could upgrade from there to 18.04 LTS and I'd be good00:42
guiverc2you'd have to make it looked in old-releases.ubuntu.com (upgrade tools don't look there) for the upgrade - ie. re-code the upgrade code...00:42
guiverc2(ie. a lot more work than re-install unless you know what you're doing)00:43
ciphergothI've pointed sources.list there, that has moved things forward a touch00:43
ciphergothhey wait, upgrades happen over http00:43
ciphergothall I need is a hosts entry00:43
ciphergothor could I use apt-get upgrade00:44
ciphergothapt full-upgrade?00:44
ciphergothIt's a little bit hard for me to believe that Ubuntu have screwed the pooch quite that much. There has to be a way.00:45
guiverc2ciphergoth, do-release-upgrade does more than a full-upgrade (there is order to packages upgrading; a full-upgrade may work, may not if for example python isn't upgraded in specific order...)00:45
guiverc2You were using a non-LTS with 6-9 month upgrade cycle; you've missed the EOL for your upgrade path - the problem is all on you... use a LTS if you want/need a longer cycle00:46
akkBe aware that upgrading from one EOL non-LTS to another EOL non-LTS is probably untested and may break in odd ways.00:46
ciphergothyou are being funny00:46
ciphergothyou left your laptop on the shelf too long it's on you00:46
guiverc217.04 reached EOL in 2018-Jan; you had a further 9 months after that to do it... and you feel that's not longer enough??00:47
ciphergothI'm not actually going to argue about whether this should work :)00:48
guiverc2you can try, if it fails you can always re-install as I've already suggested  (which is maybe 50% likely)00:49
akkA reinstall is fast, easy and almost certain to give you a clean, working system. It seems like the obvious choice unless you really want to delve into the details of the upgrade mechanism.00:51
guiverc2:) akk00:51
akkI say that as someone who's spent countless hours pointlessly and stubbornly delving into details of things I could have done in an easier way. :)00:54
akk(and I'm not calling ciphergoth stubborn, I'm calling myself that)00:54
ciphergothjust another day of linux on the desktop :)01:10
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ndrofthelinehi all, i'm running ubuntu 18.04 but there's a package, webcamoid, the version of which (8.1) instlaled is broken. an updated version (8.5) is available in 18.10. is there any way for me to install that package in my system?01:26
nszcetalsusb is showing Bus 002 Device 016: ID 046d:c537 Logitech, Inc. USB Receiver but my mouse is not working. Linux 5.4.2-arch1-1 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu, 05 Dec 2019 12:29:40 +0000 x86_64 GNU/Linux01:43
nszcetaAny suggestions?01:43
ndrofthelinenszceta, is it one of those unifying receivers? you might need to perform an association in order for it to work.looks like Solaar is a package that might be useful? https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/12/logitech-unifying-receiver-linux-solaar01:53
ndroftheline@nszceta, https://askubuntu.com/questions/113984/is-logitechs-unifying-receiver-supported might be useful too01:53
nszcetaLogitech G602; Solaar says no devices found. I don't think its a unifying receiver. It seems simple.01:55
nszcetaDisregard; it may be a unifying receiver but I cannot know for sure. It came with my G60201:55
nszcetaHow do I check this? "The kernel must have CONFIG_HIDRAW enabled."01:58
ndrofthelinenope, looks like g602 is not a unifying receiver. https://www.reddit.com/r/LogitechG/comments/2vz5ie/can_i_use_the_same_usb_reciever_with_the_g602/com9p9v/?context=8&depth=901:59
nszcetaEither way, zcat /proc/config.gz | grep CONFIG_HIDRAWCONFIG_HIDRAW=y01:59
nszcetaNo Logitech Unifying Receiver device found01:59
nszcetaSo I'm stumped :(02:00
ndroftheline:grimace: i'm not sure how deep you want to get with this - i mean have you tried silly things like plugging the thing into other USB ports, removing all other USB devices and trying? are you sure the mouse has good batteries, does it work on other computers/operating s ystems?02:02
nszcetaI tried all the USB ports and the mouse works 100%02:02
nszcetahttps://dpaste.org/RX7R/raw02:02
oerheksnszceta, try #arch ?02:02
ndrofthelineit appears from other posts that the g602 "just works" with a few caveats about the fancy buttons02:02
nszcetaRight?! That's what I assume as well!02:03
oerheksyou are not running ubuntu, so ..?02:03
nszcetaLinux is Linux :D02:03
oerheksno.02:03
ndroftheline...02:03
ndrofthelinehow do i install an app from 18.10 if i'm running 18.04?02:08
ndrofthelineand/or can anybody else verify that webcamoid won't launch in 18.04? perhaps i should request a backport.02:09
oerheksndroftheline, donĀ“t mix versions.02:09
oerheksbuild it yourself? https://webcamoid.github.io/02:10
ndrofthelinei've tried, but the latest qt versions in 18.04 are too old to build it from source.02:10
oerheks.. and 18.10 is EOL02:11
oerheksso, i would build it, but current version for 18.04 got backported fixes IIRC02:11
oerhekshttps://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=webcamoid02:11
ndrofthelineneat! thanks (: i do have a few updates pending.02:14
ndrofthelinehm. now i'm fully up to date and webcamoid still segfaulting as described https://github.com/webcamoid/webcamoid/issues/14202:15
oerheks.. running as root?02:15
ndrofthelineyes, exact same error message as described in the github issue02:16
ToAruShiroiNekohey02:17
ToAruShiroiNekoso I am having a bit of difficulty managing my boot, it broke apt-get02:18
oerheksfixed in 8.5.0 .. i see02:18
ToAruShiroiNekoI am following https://gist.github.com/ipbastola/2760cfc28be62a5ee10036851c65460002:19
nszcetaI am happy to report that my Logitech G602 is working great after a reboot. I forgot to reboot after a kernel upgrade. Rebooting solved my mysterious problem. Thanks all!02:19
oerheksnszceta, good find!02:19
ToAruShiroiNekothe problem is sudo apt-get -f install fills up the boot partition02:20
ndrofthelinewomp. webcamoid works ok in a fresh install of lubuntu 18.04. i must have broken something :/02:24
oerheksToAruShiroiNeko, run apt autoremove to get a clean boot  without unused kernels?02:26
ToAruShiroiNekoapt-get is broken because boot is at 100%02:28
ToAruShiroiNekocant autoremove before -f ?02:28
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oerheksToAruShiroiNeko, are you sure your /boot is just filled, not an error in the filesystem, RO,  that prevents apt?02:34
oerheks'mount'  could tell02:34
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wedr_Hmmmm....  Anyway to get a printer driver to stay working when upgrading from 16.04 LTS to 18.04 LTS? Office printer driver from Canon lacked support for 16.10 and up, so I'm not even sure what to do at this point.03:29
wedr_It's a big office, and no one is willing to put the $2,000 bill down for a new office printer.03:30
wedr_:(03:33
oerhekswedr_, and what canon printer is this? printer routine is pretty much improved with 18.0403:35
wedr_oerheks, imageRunner 5750 series03:35
wedr_oerheks, Yes, I agree, but the printer driver itself fails. It makes the printer print empty papers nonstop03:36
wedr_on 18.04. Downgrading to 16.04, using the same process to setup printer drivers makes the printer work again03:36
oerheksare you member of lpadmin?03:41
wedr_No I'm not03:41
oerheksah, that is why, lpadmin is the printer group03:42
wedr_yeah... I would love to report an issue there...03:42
oerheksuseradd -G lpadmin <user>03:43
oerheksone could file a bug to canon, if that is where you got the driverpackage from03:43
SnooPyBKHola03:44
wedr_oerheks, It needs to be an IT staff in our office.03:45
wedr_As they have the licensing agreement and stuffs03:45
wedr_more like, they have the account necessary to file a report and customer service stuffs.03:45
wedr_So, I personally have sent an email to our IT staffs in charge, but nothing has happened.03:45
oerheksif this is the fix, add it ?03:46
wedr_I tried... no fix03:46
wedr_Not even from Canon03:46
wedr_IT staff didn't even get a response back from Canon03:46
wedr_We're all redirected to use the CUPS03:47
wedr_I have tried various methods of setting up the CUPS on Ubuntu 18.04, and nothing has happened except for paper jams and nonstop printing.03:48
mixfix41wedr cups prints fine on my pc04:16
mixfix41honestly depending on which OS you choose ubuntu is a lot easier to be using CUPS and DRIVERs then say another os04:16
mixfix41which for face value makes sense04:17
mixfix41just stick with hp they have awesome linux support04:17
mixfix41or am i mistaken this isnt that issue04:17
ffsMy laptop is on 16.04 LTS. What is the most pain-free way to upgrade to a newer version of Ubuntu? I'm thinking 18.04.3.04:21
ffsThrough the update manager?04:22
mixfix41likely04:23
mixfix41isnt gnome your desktop or bad assumption04:23
ffsxfce04:23
mixfix41u could go back to wayland gnome (is 1 i use) and yea PM upgrade04:24
mixfix41tho prefereably this is how these distros do it04:24
ffsIs that closer to Gnome 2 or Gnome Shell?04:24
ffsBasically I hate everything that happened to Gnome since v3 came out.04:25
mixfix41i have to say default gnome that is the OOB on the ubuntu system or a more 'fuller' system04:25
ffsI'll stick with xfce for now. Maybe I'll go back to mate at some point.04:26
mixfix41honestly you would but if you just cleanse that you would be left with something that someone is choosing to do it04:26
wedr_mixfix41, I'm using HP laptop as we speak. :/04:28
wedr_mixfix41, THe issue isn't the HP laptop, it's more of our office printer driver isn't supported for 16.10 and up04:29
ffsRegarding Gnome 3, Torvalds has a nice quote "The developers have apparently decided that it's 'too complicated' to actually do real work on your desktop, and have decided to make it really annoying to do"04:29
mixfix41well be honest this is a work machine work the linux walk throughs set up arch linux on your box and dont mess with it and cups never screws up04:32
mixfix41all i got to say or can mention since i know if ubuntu package that disrupted whatever theres a lot of research you would have to ask another person04:32
wedr_mixfix41, Too bad, I can't use Arch Linux, as IT staff restricted this04:32
mixfix41ubuntu sounds fun tho04:32
wedr_Ubuntu is already decent as is.04:33
mixfix41well maybe just have fun and figure out the ubuntu bugger04:33
mixfix41my info stands valid as restricting distros for acups server????04:33
mixfix41so you cant even use a raspberry pi lame*04:33
wedr_no, it's not restricting04:33
wedr_I don't want to lose my dev environment setup I had painstakingly configured on Ubuntu04:34
mixfix41just do it boringly and duplicate it04:34
wedr_eh, I rather not04:35
mixfix41ill agree at this point but hey thought to mention04:35
wedr_yep04:35
mixfix41funny thing i keep thinking of ditching my desktop but thats an attitude that grew on its own04:36
alkisgHi, I'm on 18.04 and I want to get the source of e.g. ipxe *from 20.04*. What's the easiest way to do that?07:07
alkisgE.g. I can manually download it from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ipxe/1.0.0+git-20190109.133f4c4-0ubuntu2, but maybe there's an easier way...07:07
tomreyn!20.0407:11
ubottuUbuntu 20.04 (Focal Fossa) will be the 32nd release of Ubuntu, scheduled for April 2020 ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseSchedule ). It will be a long-term support release. Join #ubuntu+1 for support and questions.07:11
alkisgtomreyn: ok, 19.10 then :)07:11
alkisgIt's not specific to any series; it's a question for a command line tool, like rmadison. Maybe apt  source, or dpkg-source, or some internal ubuntu-devel tool07:12
tomreynapt source should work easily.07:13
alkisgIt would require me to add the 19.10 repositories in my apt sources07:13
alkisgWhile e.g. rmadison doesn't require that07:13
tomreynrmadison is an informational utility which receives information from a web interface, it is not a source code download utility.07:14
alkisgRight, that's why it's not the correct one, and I'm asking for another one :)07:14
alkisgI think it's one of this list: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/all/ubuntu-dev-tools/filelist07:14
alkisgMaybe /usr/bin/pull-lp-source07:15
tomreynyou canalso use https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/eoan/ipxe07:15
alkisgYeah I think that's the one... pull-lp-source ipxe focal07:16
Aisonany idea why radvd.service is not startable by systemctl? I always get the message: radvd.service: Failed to set up mount namespacing: Stale file handle09:25
Aisonbut when I start in console directly, there is not probljem: radvd -C /etc/radvd.conf -n09:25
gregor3000because Kubuntu channel is slow...: Hello i need help for a build for light gaming/video editing. i plan to pack it with 16Gb ram and use some new components form the old machine. but i cant' decide on the GPU. options i came down with Ryzen 5 2600 + nvidia 1050 ti, nvidia 1650 or any other AMD card; or Radeon vega 11 (on ryzen 2400G). from what i read, AMD cards (550, 560, 570) need more power and their performance is still weaker than09:27
gregor3000nvidia. i would liek to keep the wattage down as well as price. for some reason their price is the same here as nvidias or higher. OS will be Kubuntu (preferably LTS). current monitor is old with VGA cable and max resolution 1680x1050. might change it within next 2 years. depending on financial situation.09:27
gregor3000importantly  - easy to install and use (plug and play vs plug and pray and fix and...) :-)09:27
circuitbonehttps://ubuntu.com/aws/pro groan09:30
tomreyngregor3000: hardware discussions are maybe better placed in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##hardware. generally, ubuntu can work with either amd or nvidia hardware, and should you choose nvidia hardware, their proprietary drivers can also be made to work.09:37
gregor3000tomreyn: thank you. i will go to offtopic or post on forums. i didn't know we have offtopic here as well.09:38
tomreynamd drivers are open source for the most part (there is a proprietary addon if you need to do calculations for specific applications on the graphics card)09:38
tomreynthanks09:39
xormorwhy? using rkhunter --check -X : "usr/bin/lwp-request [ Warning ]"09:39
xormoralso: "Checking for suspicious (large) shared memory segments   [ Warning ]"09:39
tomreynplease do a web search, those can be false positives09:40
xormortomreyn, I Googled them. They were false positives.09:45
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xormortomreyn, I worked as a server sysadmin (WWW servers) on Red Hat with Apache 2 and even tried a Mandrake Linux with Apache 2 in 2004 Spring as a part of my schooling, but I am an amateur in what the "innards" of computer systems are and do. I am mostly an end user even though I can program some C and C++ and x86 and am64 assembly. And I know the basic functions of the systems I use, like Debian and/or Ubuntu.09:47
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xormortomreyn, I am mostly a guitarist.09:47
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xormortomreyn, UNIX-like systems like GNU are *huge*. I think I cannot learn in my lifetime everything that happens inside a PC computer.09:49
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Aisonfor what is the /core file good for?09:52
schwetzy@circuitbone Just another way of fleecing the end user09:56
Aisonok, looks like samba crahed here, thefore /core contains crash report or something like that10:07
eraserpencilhey, so i'm trying to redirect /dev/video0 as /dev/camera_front or /dev/camera_back.  I can't use udev rules because the cameras i am using are identical as far as udevadm is concerned. my current soln is to symlink from the /dev/v4l/by-path/ to /dev/camera_front. My issue is, this symlink dosent persist between reboots.10:24
eraserpencilis there a better way to achieve what i want?10:24
Deknosyou could write a udev rule which creates the symlink? :)10:29
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estanhi all. trying to boot ubuntu install iso under QEMU with qemu-system-x86_64 -show-cursor -enable-kvm -M q35 -smp 2 -m 4G -net nic,model=virtio -net user,hostfwd=tcp::2222-:22 -vga virtio -display sdl,gl=on -boot d -cdrom (with QEMU built from Git master with virglrenderer support).11:13
estanbut just getting a black screen after the bootsplash (the graphical environment is not starting).11:13
estanthe same command boots debian-live-10.2.0-amd64-kde.iso and openSUSE-Leap-15.1-KDE-Live-x86_64-Snapshot9.166-Media.iso without problem, so i suspect it's something ubuntu specific.11:14
estananyone had luck with booting the 18.04 iso with qemu+virgl?11:14
estanerr, qemu-system-x86_64 -show-cursor -enable-kvm -M q35 -smp 2 -m 4G -net nic,model=virtio -net user,hostfwd=tcp::2222-:22 -vga virtio -display sdl,gl=on -boot d -cdrom ubuntu-18.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso is the command i'm trying (forgot to mention the ISO).11:15
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estani'll try the kubuntu image and see if it makes a difference.11:21
estanseems to have the same problem as the ubuntu image.11:23
estanwill try the 19.10 ubuntu iso.11:25
ubuntu`testSystem:    Host: ubuntu-ivan Kernel: 5.4.3-050403-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Gnome 3.34.111:26
ubuntu`test           Distro: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)11:26
ubuntu`testGraphics:  Device-1: Intel Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] driver: i915 v: kernel11:26
ubuntu`test           Device-2: NVIDIA GM107 [GeForce 940MX] driver: N/A11:26
ubuntu`test           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.6 driver: modesetting,nvidia unloaded: fbdev,nouveau,vesa11:26
ubuntu`test           resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz11:26
ubuntu`testwork11:26
erkanaHi, is there any way to force suspend when under x percent battery on Gnome (19.10)11:31
eraserpencilDeknos: yea, but i cant find anything from udevadm that would bind the rules11:34
eraserpencilor atleast something identifiable11:34
estanokay, 19.10 iso booted fine. so seems it's 18.04 specific. if anyone has gotten 18.04 to boot under qemu/virgl, give me a shout.11:35
Deknoswith lspci/lshw/lsusb you should be able to find something which binds it to /dev/video0 ?11:35
Deknosand do a ls -l /dev/video0. usually it is a symlink to a certain pci/usb id further down in /dev11:35
eraserpencilyea11:51
eraserpencilDeknos: i traced it to /dev/v4l/by-path ... ... ...11:51
eraserpencilso i used that path to create it symlink11:51
eraserpencilbut that symlink dosent persist between reboot11:51
Deknosyes, of course. you did try https://askubuntu.com/questions/783357/create-a-symlink-in-dev-using-etc-udev-rules did you? it WILL NOT persist. but if your hardware is recognized, after an udevadm trigger the symlink should be created, if you write the udev rule (minus potential but not likely bugs)11:54
BluesKajHi folks12:39
bboysilHI, is this a proper place for kernel related questions?15:28
lotuspsychje_bboysil: we usually focus on ubuntu support issues, so if its related, shoot15:28
bboysilit's a bit specific, about the CSF scheduler15:29
bboysiland the nature of some paramaters15:29
lotuspsychje_bboysil: about ubuntu mainline kernels or the linux kernel in general?15:29
bboysillinux kernel in general15:29
ChunkyzTry ##linux15:30
lotuspsychje_bboysil: try ##linux or #kernel then15:30
BudgiiHi, does anyone use pivpn/openvpn?16:02
ChunkyzBudgii: wrong channel16:07
BluesKajBudgii, do you mean PIA vpn?16:08
ChunkyzNo.16:08
BluesKajChunkyz, if so i can help over at ##linux16:09
ChunkyzIt's not.16:10
ChunkyzGoogle is your friend.16:10
ChunkyzPiVPN is a port of openvpn.16:10
ChunkyzFor... Raspberry pis16:11
BluesKajok rpi16:11
cluelesspersonI upgraded from Ubuntu 19.04 to 19.10, and so far I have not encountered links killing my browsers16:56
tinkerHi! I have an issue with WebDav. I can mount OneDrive according to the manual https://winscp.net/eng/docs/guide_microsoft_onedrive  but when I try `sudo mount.davfs https://d.docs.live.net/F0XXXXXXXXXXXXX ./testdir -o rw` I constantly get error `mount.davfs: Mounting failed.17:02
tinker 302 Found`17:02
tinkerI use davfs2 deb package for mount.davfs.17:03
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melatoninaSince I updated to 19.10 I'm experiencing QEMU/KVM screen freezes. Is this a known problem?17:20
melatoninaBoth host and gues are Ubunto 19.1017:20
melatoninaUbuntu17:20
tomreyntinker: you probably need follow_redirect=1 , see https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man5/davfs2.conf.5.html17:20
tomreynmelatonina: which video driver and display are you using?17:23
tinkertomreyn, same result. (I've added line `follow_redirect 1` to /etc/davfs2/davfs2.conf). Is there a way to change User-agent and other http headers in davfs2 queries?17:28
melatoninatomreyn: these intermittent freezes happen only in the virtual machine, when I play videos, from different sources, including YouTube. I can move around the window containing the video player but I cannot interact with the content of that window, during playback. I'm checking the video driver.17:29
melatoninatomreyn: the host video driver is "nvidia"17:30
melatoninatomreyn: I'm not sure that can be the cause since this happens in the guest system, and only playing videos.17:30
bboysilwhat are the defult cgroups on ubuntu?17:31
bboysilI just installed a fresh kubuntu 19.1017:32
bboysiland I'm trying to figure out how sys/fs/cgroup/cpu/cpu.cfs_period_us is used.. if it's used17:33
tomreyntinker: looks like they (onedrive) don't just use webdav but a protocol extension for authentication. you can maybe work around it as discussed at https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?52224#comment0 and https://shui.azurewebsites.net/2018/01/13/mount-onedrive-for-business-on-headless-linux-vps-through-webdav/ (this article is about onedrive for business but it seems to be the same / similar authentication on different domains for the end user17:34
tomreynservice). or just use rclone instead.17:34
tomreynmelatonina: i was wondering about the qemu graphics driver and display rather.17:35
melatoninatomreyn: cheching them17:35
melatoninachecking17:36
melatoninatomreyn: Video Model "QXL" 16 MiB, then there is Spice server17:37
tinkertomreyn, but I've tested this manual https://winscp.net/eng/docs/guide_microsoft_onedrive  and it works without auth cookies. My doubts are that MS server somehow distinguishes WinSCP WebDAV and davfs2 WebDAV. My guess is in headers. Anyway, that's for the assistance.17:37
MrokiiHello. I'm on Kubuntu, so I'm not sure if asking here is any help. Anyhow, I'm on 19.10 and I can't seem to activate any nvidia-drivers. The System settings-window always reverts back to the Nouveau-driver. Any ideas what the problem could be?17:38
ducasseMrokii: try 'sudo ubuntu-drivers install'17:40
tomreynmelatonina: do you have opengl support enabled for the spice display? the arch wiki lists available graphics acceleration options: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/QEMU/Guest_graphics_acceleration17:40
Mrokiiducasse: Thanks, I'll try.17:41
tomreynMrokii: if you installed nvidia drivers by downloading them from nvidia.com manually you may want to remove those before you do the above17:41
Mrokiitomreyn: I didn't, but thanks.17:42
melatoninatomreyn: opengl acceleation requires virtio. I'll try and switch video driver17:42
melatoninatomreyn: nothing changed after switching to virtio with 3d acceleration enabled17:48
Mrokiiducasse: That has installed the 335-drivers, but using "sudo lshw -C display" still tells me that Nouveau is used ("       configuration: driver=nouveau latency=017:48
MrokiiAny other ideas?17:48
ducasseMrokii: did you reboot?17:51
Mrokiiducasse: No I didn't. Do I have to? I thought it would be activated without rebooting.17:52
ducasseMrokii: no, you need to reboot to load the new driver17:52
Mrokiiducasse: Okay, thanks, I'll try. Brb, hopefully...17:53
BluesKajone can get the nvidia driver in system settings>hardware>driver manager on Kubuntu17:55
Mrokiiducasse: Thanks that helped. Silly mistake by me, not rebooting.17:55
ducasseMrokii: success?17:55
Mrokiiducasse: Yep.17:55
ducasseMrokii: great, now enjoy your new install :)17:55
MrokiiBluesKaj: That's what I tried, and as I didn't get any message about needing to reboot I was confused why it always switched back to Nouveau.17:55
BluesKajMrokii, also, one can get the nvidia driver in system settings>hardware>driver manager on Kubuntu17:55
Mrokiiducasse: Thanks. :-)17:58
franzoI have a problem with the software store in Ubuntu. I am trying to download programs but I get the message: You do not have permission to install software. I did not have any problem in the past. Sometimes I get: please access to snap store.. and I am registered and logged in ubuntu One.. someone could help?18:27
franzoI changed my DE to xfce recently18:28
melatoninatomreyn: the problem seems to be related to Chrome. Using YouTube on Firefox works just fine.18:31
akiki have an imac with dual boot macos high sierra and ubuntu 18.04.3. something in ubuntu makes the efi boot ubuntu by default. i can change it back with "efibootmgr -o 0080,0000" but how can i stop ubuntu modifying the boot order?18:42
jeremy31akik: That should only happen after an update to grub from the repos18:43
leftyfbakik: https://superuser.com/a/135580318:47
leftyfbfound on google by searching for "ubuntu stop grub updating efi"18:47
akikleftyfb: ok testing. thanks18:52
akikneed to install grub-efi-amd64 first(?)18:53
leftyfbakik: it might not be installed on your imac?18:55
akikleftyfb: it wasn't18:56
leftyfbapt list --installed |grep grub-efi18:56
leftyfbinstalling it might not make a difference if your machine isn't using it18:56
leftyfbakik: this might be a mac-specific problem that I cannot help with18:59
akikleftyfb: it didn't fix the problem. i reboot ubuntu and get grub first and not macos boot19:03
EriC^^akik: you can disable entries19:06
EriC^^akik: what's the output of "sudo efibootmgr -v" currently?19:06
akiki want macos as default and then boot ubuntu by pressing the option key19:07
rafaelcenteioHi there. I'm using Ubuntu Budgie 18.04. Ctrl-c, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-x and Ctrl-z aren't working in any application. Xev doesn't even catches the combination.19:07
rafaelcenteiocatch*19:07
EriC^^akik: sudo efibootmgr -A -b <ubuntu boot number>19:07
EriC^^akik: that should disable the entry19:07
leftyfbrafaelcenteio: tried booting from a standard ubuntu live usb? Maybe your ctrl key isn't working correctly? (mine is iffy and I have to hold it down hard)19:07
EriC^^akik: to enable it back, sudo efibootmgr -a -b <ubuntu boot number>19:08
akikEriC^^: that's 'a' solution but not really19:09
rafaelcenteioletfyfb, thanks for the answer. It's probably not the case since the ctrl key is working correctly with the other combinations.19:09
akikhow can i stop ubuntu from messing with the efi boot order?19:09
akikEriC^^: here's the efibootmgr -v https://pastebin.com/raw/nPE7uEvw19:09
EriC^^akik: well, as mentioned to you it should only be able to mess it if it runs grub-install somehow, usually after a grub update, so you could make a hold on that package to forbid updates19:17
EriC^^akik: if it's resetting without updates, it might be that your bios is switching them, or did you try only booting into macos several times and it never switches til you boot into ubuntu?19:18
akikEriC^^: i'll try booting into macos multiple times. it always changes it to ubuntu when i boot ubuntu19:20
akikEriC^^: so booting to macos works as i want. it's kept as the default. it's only when i boot ubuntu, it changes the boot order to ubuntu (0000) first, macos (0080) second19:33
akikit's almost as the windows installer overwriting the mbr19:34
jeremy31akik: https://askubuntu.com/a/104547119:35
akikjeremy31: did you read my last messages? the macos boots as i want19:37
akiki boot ubuntu, and it changes the boot order so that on restart i get ubuntu again19:37
jeremy31akik: are there any options there to lock it so Ubuntu can't change the boot order19:37
akikthat's what i want to know also :)19:38
akiki'll check it out. thanks19:38
jeremy31akik: This shows a picture with an option to lock it to prevent changes https://apple.stackexchange.com/a/3857519:39
akikjeremy31: macos is already the default. where does it say that will lock the selection?19:42
jeremy31akik this was part of one answer "If you press and hold the Control key during this step, your selection is saved in Startup Disk preferences, so it persists until you change it."19:45
akiki give up. have to come back to this some other day19:52
EriC^^akik: there's always the disable option19:59
akikEriC^^: i'll probably create a script/service to always set the boot order when i boot ubuntu19:59
jwr123.20:26
jwr123hello? just wondering if i registered correctly20:26
nanuI am trying to buidl a snap package where the I need to copy the gui copied the gui to the excuted bin or  at least into the snap package. How can i do that20:27
nanu?20:27
noudlecan someone help me getting xfce started over ssh? usecase: i have a pi hooked up to the tv and want to start xfce4 on the pi over ssh withou the need to go there, plugin a usb keyboard and type "startxfce4"21:32
franzoI have a problem with the software store in Ubuntu. I am trying to download programs but I get the message: You do not have permission to install software. I did not have any problem in the past. Sometimes I get: please access to snap store.. and I am registered and logged in ubuntu One.. someone could help?21:32
noudledoing this over ssh seems to be not that easy tho21:32
noudlegetting "no screens found(EE)"21:32
LinzeestompAnyone got suggestions for installing ubuntu while using nvidia gfx cards?21:51
ikoniawhat's wrong with the normal install routine21:52
jeremy31Might need compatibility mode, install third party drivers and software21:52
LinzeestompWell, Ive not tried installing yet -- ive only booted from the usb device and the usb devices hangs at the loading screen when not using safe graphics mode21:55
LinzeestompIm on safe graphics mode now21:56
Linzeestompbut i also wanna game on the system so a generic just make it work driver isnt exactly ideal..21:56
Linzeestompultimately, i just wanna be able to install it and NOT end up with a black screen when I go to boot for the first time off of the ssd21:56
Linzeestomp!nickserv22:00
ubottuFor information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode.22:00
Linzeestompah there it is22:00
Linzeestomp!help22:01
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:01
Linzeestomp!commands22:01
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. In Unity or GNOME, search the dash for "terminal" and press ENTER. Other desktops: Applications -> System Tools -> Terminal (MATE), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal22:01
LinzeestompCool bot :D22:01
tomreyn!msgbot > Linzeestomp22:02
ubottuLinzeestomp, please see my private message22:02
ikoniaLinzeestomp: just install ubuntu using safe mode22:02
ikoniathat doesn't mean the install will run in safemode22:02
LinzeestompThat is exactly my point though -- how am I gonna get back into the OS after installing if it doesnt go into safe mode and my graphics card currently only works with it in safe mode?22:03
tomreynby booting into safe graphics mode or recovery22:03
Linzeestomphow would I do that during boot?22:04
LinzeestompI'm an absolute noob with this yo -- dont let me knowing how to login to irc for knowing my way around linux xD22:04
compdocwhat graphics card?22:05
jeremy31Linzeestomp: press a key during boot to get options22:05
Linzeestomp"A" key?22:05
tomreynthe same way you'd do it after installation, by choosing the failsafe graphics option (if available) or the recovery option (will be available) from the grub menu. you'll need to bring up the grub menu by hitting escape repeatedly or holding down shift during boot22:05
tomreyn!recovery22:06
ubottuIf your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode22:06
LinzeestompOk -- sounds simple enough. Here goes -- thanks for assistance22:06
arakashHi everyone. I'm in need of help. I used xrandr to set a custom resolution but after rebooting I can't log in to the desktop (freezes). How can I reset the settings? I tried googling to no avail. Thanks in advance.22:27
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akkxrandr only sets settings for the current session, doesn't remember it, so I'm guessing you saved the new resolution somewhere besides just running xrandr once.22:30
arakashakk: i put xrandr commands in my  .profile and I tried removing it but it's not working22:32
arakashOh. It works. I just had to fully reboot22:33
arakashI wonder why the custom resolution works fine until I reboot though22:34
lufihi. Just want to ask. why is my dns pointed to 127.0.0.53? Is that a valid server?23:44
leftyfblufi: nmcli device show|grep DNS23:47
lufileftyfb: doesnt show anything23:48
leftyfblufi: In newer versions of ubuntu, there's a local DNS caching server running (resolveconf/systemd-resolved) which gets looked up first then passes on queries to your actual DNS server23:49
lufiso this local caching server is 127.0.0.53?23:49
leftyfbcorrect23:49
lufithen the dns server defaults to the gateway?23:49
leftyfbno23:50
leftyfbthat's not a thing23:50
leftyfblufi: what version of ubuntu is this?23:50
lufi1923:51
lufi19.0423:51
leftyfblufi: Are you having trouble resolving domains?23:51
lufinot really. I'm just wondering how it does resolve the hostnames in my local network23:52
lufiwhen I tried nslookup it says it uses 127.0.0.5323:52
leftyfbah, then in that case, your local router might set your gateway ip as the DNS server23:52
lufiI see. so it's the router then. so basically if there is no dns server set locally, ubuntu will use what the router has set?23:53
leftyfbno23:58
leftyfblufi: if no DNS server ip address is provided by your DHCP server or static network config, then you do not have a resolver.23:59
tomreynon ubuntu desktop, unless you specify resolvers on the network manager connection profile, dhcp is used for configuration, which is a way for autoconfiguring network devices in a LAN. in small office / home environments you'll usually have a router / internet gateway which also provides network configuration to systems on the LAN via DHCP, configuring itself as a resolver and acting as that.23:59
leftyfblufi: your router sets it's ip address (assuming it's the gateway) as both the gateway and the DNS server23:59

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