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Linzeestompwhoops sorry about that :P00:02
Linzeestomphmm00:08
valorieit can be frustrating, I know00:12
LinzeestompOH HEY -- Its installing stuff with "nvidia" in the file name now :O00:14
Linzeestompmaybe thats my video drivers00:14
IrcsomeBot1<miltonh26> @Linzeestomp - about VBA in LibreOffice Calc, Calc does not run VBA scripts created in Excel. Instead it has its own Basic scripting language plus support for other languages such as Python and JavaScript.00:55
IrcsomeBot1<darylimjz> Lol sometimes the conflicts and current lack of (proper) support for mainstream applications still make me pull my hair out for anything Linux...05:12
valorie@darylimjz - such as what?05:40
valorieI mean, what "mainstream" apps05:41
valoriewhat conflicts? and who should offer support?05:41
IrcsomeBot1<darylimjz> Well I was just trying to install openvpn/vpngate in particular05:42
IrcsomeBot1<darylimjz> And also I'm quite confused with the installation of tarballs05:43
valoriewhy would you being installing tarballs?05:43
valorie!vpn05:43
ubottuFor more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN05:43
IrcsomeBot1<darylimjz> Okay so in particular vpngate doesn't have a GUI for Linux, so it came in a tar.gz05:43
valorieah05:44
IrcsomeBot1<darylimjz> It had instructions, which I followed, but then I had to move the folder to root05:44
valorieI've installed tarballs, but only for testing05:44
IrcsomeBot1<darylimjz> But Dolphin on Kubuntu doesn't directly allow root access with the GUI05:44
valoriesure it does05:44
IrcsomeBot1<darylimjz> So I had to find another solution, which was to install another file manager05:45
valorieif you need root access for an action, you are asked for your password05:45
IrcsomeBot1<darylimjz> And even when I did, the installation process was super confusing05:45
valorieprobably best to just do it in the commandline though05:45
IrcsomeBot1<darylimjz> @valorie, Thats only if you're working in the terminal/CLI05:45
valoriemuch more direct05:45
IrcsomeBot1<darylimjz> Yeah I was trying to05:46
IrcsomeBot1<darylimjz> And I managed to move it to /usr/05:46
IrcsomeBot1<darylimjz> But then what05:46
valoriesounds like you have very incomplete/bad instructions05:46
IrcsomeBot1<darylimjz> It's supposed to come with something like a ./configure or install shell file, iirc05:46
IrcsomeBot1<darylimjz> I was just following the official documentation lol05:47
valorieyes, that's helpful05:47
valorieofficial docs vary in quality05:47
valoriefor sure05:47
IrcsomeBot1<darylimjz> Yeah but there was no such installation file in the folder05:47
valorie:(05:47
IrcsomeBot1<darylimjz> And then there's client, bridge, server. And I'm not savvy enough to understand the exact differences between those lol05:48
IrcsomeBot1<darylimjz> I'm going to try Linux Mint as a last resort, otherwise I'm just going back to windows lol05:49
valoriethe client will be what you interact with on your computer05:49
valoriethe server will be installed somewhere else05:50
valorieand the bridge will connect the two05:50
valoriewhether you are in linux, windows, android, etc.05:50
valoriedo you have a server/webspace somewhere?05:51
IrcsomeBot1<darylimjz> Nope05:51
valorieotherwise you will have to connect to someone elses server05:51
valoriewhich is why most people pay a company monthly05:52
IrcsomeBot1<darylimjz> Yeah, I know how to do that on Windows05:52
valoriehow to do what?05:52
IrcsomeBot1<darylimjz> Connect to an external VPN server05:52
valorieaside from the gui on your computer, there is little difference05:52
valoriea VPN is a VPN05:53
IrcsomeBot1<darylimjz> Yeah I understand that, but it's like way more complicated on Linux...05:53
pragomerhi. In plasma 5.17 the background of the lock screen is "blurred", in plasma 5.12 not. Can I activate this feature in kubuntu lts (5.12) ?05:53
valoriewell, with a crap tar file, yeah05:53
valoriepragomer: I doubt it05:53
valorieunless you are willing to patch plasma yourself05:54
IrcsomeBot1<darylimjz> Honestly, is there any point in using Linux as a regular pc user?05:57
valorieI've been using it exclusively for about 20 years05:58
valorievery rarely use a win VM05:58
valorieand I guess I'd regard myself as a regular user05:58
valorienot a coder05:58
valorieI never missed windows once I tried linux05:59
valoriebut it depends on what you need05:59
valoriemy husband will never leave windows, because that's what he likes05:59
valorieit ain't religion06:00
pragomervalorie: ok..its not THAT big of a deal.. I just could use an edited wallpaper ;-).... I just wondered: so this "blurred lockscreen feature" is really a "feature" that came with later plasma versions, right?06:02
valorieI believe so, yes06:03
valorieI don't lock this computer so I can't recall when it appeared06:03
IrcsomeBot1<darylimjz> Ok I think I might try stock Ubuntu with gnome06:14
IrcsomeBot1<darylimjz> That might be a little less messy than Kubuntu, as much as I like KDE06:14
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Linzeestompo/ all06:44
LinzeestompAnyone know how to verify that my nvidia card is the card im actually rendering with and not my secondary onboard intel uhd graphics card?06:45
Linzeestompid like to use my 1050 Ti preferably..06:45
duplicatedrun `prime-select query`, that'll tell you which card is currently active06:47
duplicatedforgot to tag you Linzeestomp06:57
Linzeestompthanks! let me try that06:59
Linzeestomp@duplicated does this do what I think it does?07:00
Linzeestompthe @ directive that is lol07:00
valorieLinzeestomp: if you see <IrcsomeBot1> before someone's nick, they are in Telegram07:01
valorieand you have to use the @ to get their attention07:01
valorieif not, just use their nick07:01
valorieand that tab-completes, at least in most clients07:01
LinzeestompIm using Konversation07:01
valorieme too! <307:01
Linzeestompidk what all it does yet still trying to figure it out07:02
valorieso you type v tab07:02
valorieyou'll get my name07:02
Linzeestompooo ok cool!07:02
Linzeestompvalorie: boom07:02
valorieand if there are a bunch starting with v, just keep tabbing07:02
LinzeestompAwesome! God I miss irc07:02
valorieirc rocks07:02
Linzeestomplol yup!07:03
valorieI use it on my computer07:03
valorieon the phone.... telegram07:03
Linzeestompvalorie: "primary-select query" returns command not found07:05
valorieno quotes or other marks07:06
valorieand it's prime-select query07:06
Linzeestompo shit ok07:06
diogenes_Linzeestomp, try: glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer"07:06
valorienot primary07:06
valoriecopy paste my friend07:06
Linzeestomphmmmmm prime-select query returns "nvidia" but glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer" returns my intel gpu07:08
lordievaderGood morning07:08
valoriehuh07:09
Linzeestompo/ good morning07:09
valoriehey lordievader07:09
valorieha, prime-select says nvidia, the other says: OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GTX 1070/PCIe/SSE207:10
valoriewhich is why I rarely mess with this stuff07:11
* lordievader sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/lTVDqesGAzSPAvQmHxgIiUdi >07:11
diogenes_Linzeestomp, go to nvidia settings > PRIME, see what's there.07:13
Linzeestompk07:17
LinzeestompDRI_PRIME=1 glxinfo | grep "OpenGL vendor string" says this twice07:18
Linzeestompsorry07:18
LinzeestompOpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center07:18
Linzeestompsays THAT twice07:18
Linzeestompalso--tinkering around with nvidia in the terminal, I got this: NVIDIA-SMI has failed because it couldn't communicate with the NVIDIA driver. Make sure that the latest NVIDIA driver is installed and running.07:19
diogenes_DRI_PRIME=1 is only used with nouveau driver.07:19
diogenes_and how did you install the driver?07:20
LinzeestompI THINK this might be because I maybe havent disengaged some sort of motherboard level security for installing third party updates through the installer07:20
LinzeestompUEFI? I think07:20
LinzeestompI have the password -- and when I rebooted i made sure to trigger the MOK? thing but it didn't give an option that sounded like what the installer said I was looking it hasnt popped up since then07:21
Linzeestompsorry, I just smoked a bowl :P07:22
valorieubuntu-drivers will find and evaluate your driver choices07:28
valorie!ubuntu-drivers07:28
valoriepiffle07:28
valorie!info ubuntu-drivers07:28
ubottuPackage ubuntu-drivers does not exist in bionic07:28
valoriegreee07:28
valorieor what I do: use krunner (alt+space) and type driver07:29
valorieand driver manager will pop up, which is the gui to ubuntu-drivers07:29
valorieit takes about 1.5 years to collect information about your system, but.....07:30
Linzeestomp!info ubuntu-drivers07:31
ubottuPackage ubuntu-drivers does not exist in bionic07:31
Linzeestompgot it thanks :D07:32
Linzeestompdriver manager that is :P07:32
oerhekssudo ubuntu-drivers list .. or go wild; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall07:32
valoriethanks, oerheks07:33
valorieI have done that in the past07:33
valorieLinzeestomp: you'll have to restart if you install new drivers07:33
valorieI mean, if you want the new drivers07:34
oerheksaufoinstall does video, and also wireless stuff, if available07:34
Linzeestompreturns: nvidia-drivers 430, 390 and 43507:34
oerheks.. and autoinstall takes the right driver07:35
valorieindeed07:35
valoriehowever, it's chosen correctly every time I asked it07:36
valorieat least for the past few years07:36
oerheksjups07:36
Linzeestomphmmm -- is there anyway I can sign for a secure boot while in kubuntu?07:40
Linzeestompor is that a MUST restart and enter bios or something else?07:40
oerheksnope, bios it is07:41
Linzeestompdarn07:42
Linzeestompbrb07:43
valoriesecure boot supposedly Just Works07:44
valorie!secure-boot07:45
valoriehuh07:45
valoriewell, dunno07:45
valorieniters07:55
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LinzeestompGot the nividia drivers installed :D08:04
Linzeestompwhen I use nvidia-settings I get a whole suit now instead of a profile definer08:04
Linzeestompsuite*08:04
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LinzeestompYa, I think the drivers are working. Just ran a benchmark went from < 2.5k FPS before signing for drivers to 17.5-18k FPS after o_o08:15
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isomarigreetings, Where can I configure klipper? I only see what;s in the clipboard but not configuration or settings option.08:46
RikMillsright click the system tray icon08:51
user|23994Hello, When I connect extra screens to my notebook via a USB-C dock, after logging in once, I am thrown back to the login screen and only after the second login does the desktop load. Also some settings do not seem to carry over between using it with extra screens and using it on its own. I have been told that this is a problem specific to kubuntu08:58
user|23994(18.04)08:58
user|23994Is there a way to avoid this without compromising security by setting auto-login or some such?09:00
IrcsomeBot1<Franzpow> I have a problem with the software store in Ubuntu. I am trying to download programs but I get the message: You do not have permission to install software. I did not have any problem in the past. Sometimes I get: please access to snap store.. and I am registered and logged in ubuntu One … I am sorry I am asking this here but nobody replied on #ubuntu..maybe someone could help here09:12
IrcsomeBot1<Franzpow> I recently changed de to xfce from GNOME09:13
diogenes_Franzpow>, try to tick "Launch GNOME services" in settings > session and startup > advanced.09:15
diogenes_reboot afterwards.09:16
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omniospeaking of nvidia, is it possible to have a tray icon for settings?10:16
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Thirddegree21Hello Everyone,  I am looking to install Kubuntu as an additional OS on my HP Laptop to run Linux CNC.  where is a good source for instructions I could use to setup that kind of installation?10:51
IrcsomeBot1<Franzpow> Diogenes: thank you very much! I will try that when I come back home11:00
jo_Hello @ll11:00
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BluesKajHowdy folks12:28
LinzeestompAnyone with experience using KTorrent answer a quick question for me? I can't seem to add anymore magnets beyond 15 in the queue--is that a hard limit or something? I just wanna get all the magnets (i've got like 55) into the torrent queue and then slowly download everything.15:06
BluesKajLinzeestomp, check ktorrent>settings>configure ktorrent>downloads15:11
IrcsomeBot1<Franzpow> Hey, I solved starting Gnome-software in terminal as root15:13
IrcsomeBot1<Franzpow> Launching gnome services at launch did not work :/15:13
diogenes_Franzpow, you can tweak the sudoers to allow running it without password, also you could make a shortcut that will ask for passwd when you launch the software cdnter but honestly, i'd use synaptic package manager, which in my opinion is the best.15:18
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IrcsomeBot1<Franzpow> I don't know how to change package manager  but I think that gnome-software is rubbish. I like a lot more discover that comes out from Kubuntu16:44
oerheksi like synaptic above those 2, much more detailed softwarecenter16:45
IrcsomeBot1<Franzpow> Diogenes: Btw gnome software center  never asked me sudo permissions.. So it's strange16:45
oerhekssure gnome software asks your password, after selecting a package.16:45
IrcsomeBot1<Franzpow> Maybe in GNOME it does everything by itself16:45
oerhekssynaptic starts with the password question :-)16:45
IrcsomeBot1<Franzpow> Yes.. Now I remember.. That's why it does not happen in xfce and I had that problem16:46
IrcsomeBot1<Franzpow> If I install Synaptic can I download the same packages from Ubuntu repos? Or I must change repositories?16:47
oerheksno, it is an universal tool16:47
IrcsomeBot1<Franzpow> Cool16:48
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PerfMonkI would like to know where to go if I have question/Problem with kubuntu focal 20.04.  I have it installed on a USB key and got it running.  But since it still very young and have some issues, where should I go for signaling a problem ?19:57
diogenes_PerfMonk, not sure about the name but something like #ubuntu+1 oe #ubuntu-next.19:59
genii!focal20:34
ubottuUbuntu 20.04 (Focal Fossa) will be the 32nd release of Ubuntu, scheduled for April 2020 ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseSchedule ). It will be a long-term support release. Join #ubuntu+1 for support and questions.20:34
bpromptready in full for download on April 30, 11.59:59PM on 202020:40
PerfMonkThanks everybody!20:44
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