[00:02] <Linzeestomp> whoops sorry about that :P
[00:08] <Linzeestomp> hmm
[00:12] <valorie> it can be frustrating, I know
[00:14] <Linzeestomp> OH HEY -- Its installing stuff with "nvidia" in the file name now :O
[00:14] <Linzeestomp> maybe thats my video drivers
 @Linzeestomp - about VBA in LibreOffice Calc, Calc does not run VBA scripts created in Excel. Instead it has its own Basic scripting language plus support for other languages such as Python and JavaScript.
 Lol sometimes the conflicts and current lack of (proper) support for mainstream applications still make me pull my hair out for anything Linux...
[05:40] <valorie> @darylimjz - such as what?
[05:41] <valorie> I mean, what "mainstream" apps
[05:41] <valorie> what conflicts? and who should offer support?
 Well I was just trying to install openvpn/vpngate in particular
 And also I'm quite confused with the installation of tarballs
[05:43] <valorie> why would you being installing tarballs?
[05:43] <valorie> !vpn
 Okay so in particular vpngate doesn't have a GUI for Linux, so it came in a tar.gz
[05:44] <valorie> ah
 It had instructions, which I followed, but then I had to move the folder to root
[05:44] <valorie> I've installed tarballs, but only for testing
 But Dolphin on Kubuntu doesn't directly allow root access with the GUI
[05:44] <valorie> sure it does
 So I had to find another solution, which was to install another file manager
[05:45] <valorie> if you need root access for an action, you are asked for your password
 And even when I did, the installation process was super confusing
[05:45] <valorie> probably best to just do it in the commandline though
 @valorie, Thats only if you're working in the terminal/CLI
[05:45] <valorie> much more direct
 Yeah I was trying to
 And I managed to move it to /usr/
 But then what
[05:46] <valorie> sounds like you have very incomplete/bad instructions
 It's supposed to come with something like a ./configure or install shell file, iirc
 I was just following the official documentation lol
[05:47] <valorie> yes, that's helpful
[05:47] <valorie> official docs vary in quality
[05:47] <valorie> for sure
 Yeah but there was no such installation file in the folder
[05:47] <valorie> :(
 And then there's client, bridge, server. And I'm not savvy enough to understand the exact differences between those lol
 I'm going to try Linux Mint as a last resort, otherwise I'm just going back to windows lol
[05:49] <valorie> the client will be what you interact with on your computer
[05:50] <valorie> the server will be installed somewhere else
[05:50] <valorie> and the bridge will connect the two
[05:50] <valorie> whether you are in linux, windows, android, etc.
[05:51] <valorie> do you have a server/webspace somewhere?
 Nope
[05:51] <valorie> otherwise you will have to connect to someone elses server
[05:52] <valorie> which is why most people pay a company monthly
 Yeah, I know how to do that on Windows
[05:52] <valorie> how to do what?
 Connect to an external VPN server
[05:52] <valorie> aside from the gui on your computer, there is little difference
[05:53] <valorie> a VPN is a VPN
 Yeah I understand that, but it's like way more complicated on Linux...
[05:53] <pragomer> hi. In plasma 5.17 the background of the lock screen is "blurred", in plasma 5.12 not. Can I activate this feature in kubuntu lts (5.12) ?
[05:53] <valorie> well, with a crap tar file, yeah
[05:53] <valorie> pragomer: I doubt it
[05:54] <valorie> unless you are willing to patch plasma yourself
 Honestly, is there any point in using Linux as a regular pc user?
[05:58] <valorie> I've been using it exclusively for about 20 years
[05:58] <valorie> very rarely use a win VM
[05:58] <valorie> and I guess I'd regard myself as a regular user
[05:58] <valorie> not a coder
[05:59] <valorie> I never missed windows once I tried linux
[05:59] <valorie> but it depends on what you need
[05:59] <valorie> my husband will never leave windows, because that's what he likes
[06:00] <valorie> it ain't religion
[06:02] <pragomer> valorie: ok..its not THAT big of a deal.. I just could use an edited wallpaper ;-).... I just wondered: so this "blurred lockscreen feature" is really a "feature" that came with later plasma versions, right?
[06:03] <valorie> I believe so, yes
[06:03] <valorie> I don't lock this computer so I can't recall when it appeared
 Ok I think I might try stock Ubuntu with gnome
 That might be a little less messy than Kubuntu, as much as I like KDE
[06:44] <Linzeestomp> o/ all
[06:45] <Linzeestomp> Anyone know how to verify that my nvidia card is the card im actually rendering with and not my secondary onboard intel uhd graphics card?
[06:45] <Linzeestomp> id like to use my 1050 Ti preferably..
[06:47] <duplicated> run `prime-select query`, that'll tell you which card is currently active
[06:57] <duplicated> forgot to tag you Linzeestomp
[06:59] <Linzeestomp> thanks! let me try that
[07:00] <Linzeestomp> @duplicated does this do what I think it does?
[07:00] <Linzeestomp> the @ directive that is lol
[07:01] <valorie> Linzeestomp: if you see <IrcsomeBot1> before someone's nick, they are in Telegram
[07:01] <valorie> and you have to use the @ to get their attention
[07:01] <valorie> if not, just use their nick
[07:01] <valorie> and that tab-completes, at least in most clients
[07:01] <Linzeestomp> Im using Konversation
[07:01] <valorie> me too! <3
[07:02] <Linzeestomp> idk what all it does yet still trying to figure it out
[07:02] <valorie> so you type v tab
[07:02] <valorie> you'll get my name
[07:02] <Linzeestomp> ooo ok cool!
[07:02] <Linzeestomp> valorie: boom
[07:02] <valorie> and if there are a bunch starting with v, just keep tabbing
[07:02] <Linzeestomp> Awesome! God I miss irc
[07:02] <valorie> irc rocks
[07:03] <Linzeestomp> lol yup!
[07:03] <valorie> I use it on my computer
[07:03] <valorie> on the phone.... telegram
[07:05] <Linzeestomp> valorie: "primary-select query" returns command not found
[07:06] <valorie> no quotes or other marks
[07:06] <valorie> and it's prime-select query
[07:06] <Linzeestomp> o shit ok
[07:06] <diogenes_> Linzeestomp, try: glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer"
[07:06] <valorie> not primary
[07:06] <valorie> copy paste my friend
[07:08] <Linzeestomp> hmmmmm prime-select query returns "nvidia" but glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer" returns my intel gpu
[07:08] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:09] <valorie> huh
[07:09] <Linzeestomp> o/ good morning
[07:09] <valorie> hey lordievader
[07:10] <valorie> ha, prime-select says nvidia, the other says: OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GTX 1070/PCIe/SSE2
[07:11] <valorie> which is why I rarely mess with this stuff
[07:11]  * lordievader sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/lTVDqesGAzSPAvQmHxgIiUdi >
[07:13] <diogenes_> Linzeestomp, go to nvidia settings > PRIME, see what's there.
[07:17] <Linzeestomp> k
[07:18] <Linzeestomp> DRI_PRIME=1 glxinfo | grep "OpenGL vendor string" says this twice
[07:18] <Linzeestomp> sorry
[07:18] <Linzeestomp> OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
[07:18] <Linzeestomp> says THAT twice
[07:19] <Linzeestomp> also--tinkering around with nvidia in the terminal, I got this: NVIDIA-SMI has failed because it couldn't communicate with the NVIDIA driver. Make sure that the latest NVIDIA driver is installed and running.
[07:19] <diogenes_> DRI_PRIME=1 is only used with nouveau driver.
[07:20] <diogenes_> and how did you install the driver?
[07:20] <Linzeestomp> I THINK this might be because I maybe havent disengaged some sort of motherboard level security for installing third party updates through the installer
[07:20] <Linzeestomp> UEFI? I think
[07:21] <Linzeestomp> I have the password -- and when I rebooted i made sure to trigger the MOK? thing but it didn't give an option that sounded like what the installer said I was looking it hasnt popped up since then
[07:22] <Linzeestomp> sorry, I just smoked a bowl :P
[07:28] <valorie> ubuntu-drivers will find and evaluate your driver choices
[07:28] <valorie> !ubuntu-drivers
[07:28] <valorie> piffle
[07:28] <valorie> !info ubuntu-drivers
[07:28] <valorie> greee
[07:29] <valorie> or what I do: use krunner (alt+space) and type driver
[07:29] <valorie> and driver manager will pop up, which is the gui to ubuntu-drivers
[07:30] <valorie> it takes about 1.5 years to collect information about your system, but.....
[07:31] <Linzeestomp> !info ubuntu-drivers
[07:32] <Linzeestomp> got it thanks :D
[07:32] <Linzeestomp> driver manager that is :P
[07:32] <oerheks> sudo ubuntu-drivers list .. or go wild; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[07:33] <valorie> thanks, oerheks
[07:33] <valorie> I have done that in the past
[07:33] <valorie> Linzeestomp: you'll have to restart if you install new drivers
[07:34] <valorie> I mean, if you want the new drivers
[07:34] <oerheks> aufoinstall does video, and also wireless stuff, if available
[07:34] <Linzeestomp> returns: nvidia-drivers 430, 390 and 435
[07:35] <oerheks> .. and autoinstall takes the right driver
[07:35] <valorie> indeed
[07:36] <valorie> however, it's chosen correctly every time I asked it
[07:36] <valorie> at least for the past few years
[07:36] <oerheks> jups
[07:40] <Linzeestomp> hmmm -- is there anyway I can sign for a secure boot while in kubuntu?
[07:40] <Linzeestomp> or is that a MUST restart and enter bios or something else?
[07:41] <oerheks> nope, bios it is
[07:42] <Linzeestomp> darn
[07:43] <Linzeestomp> brb
[07:44] <valorie> secure boot supposedly Just Works
[07:45] <valorie> !secure-boot
[07:45] <valorie> huh
[07:45] <valorie> well, dunno
[07:55] <valorie> niters
[08:04] <Linzeestomp> Got the nividia drivers installed :D
[08:04] <Linzeestomp> when I use nvidia-settings I get a whole suit now instead of a profile definer
[08:04] <Linzeestomp> suite*
[08:15] <Linzeestomp> Ya, I think the drivers are working. Just ran a benchmark went from < 2.5k FPS before signing for drivers to 17.5-18k FPS after o_o
[08:46] <isomari> greetings, Where can I configure klipper? I only see what;s in the clipboard but not configuration or settings option.
[08:51] <RikMills> right click the system tray icon
[08:58] <user|23994> Hello, When I connect extra screens to my notebook via a USB-C dock, after logging in once, I am thrown back to the login screen and only after the second login does the desktop load. Also some settings do not seem to carry over between using it with extra screens and using it on its own. I have been told that this is a problem specific to kubuntu
[08:58] <user|23994> (18.04)
[09:00] <user|23994> Is there a way to avoid this without compromising security by setting auto-login or some such?
 I have a problem with the software store in Ubuntu. I am trying to download programs but I get the message: You do not have permission to install software. I did not have any problem in the past. Sometimes I get: please access to snap store.. and I am registered and logged in ubuntu One … I am sorry I am asking this here but nobody replied on #ubuntu..maybe someone could help here
 I recently changed de to xfce from GNOME
[09:15] <diogenes_> Franzpow>, try to tick "Launch GNOME services" in settings > session and startup > advanced.
[09:16] <diogenes_> reboot afterwards.
[10:16] <omnio> speaking of nvidia, is it possible to have a tray icon for settings?
[10:51] <Thirddegree21> Hello Everyone,  I am looking to install Kubuntu as an additional OS on my HP Laptop to run Linux CNC.  where is a good source for instructions I could use to setup that kind of installation?
 Diogenes: thank you very much! I will try that when I come back home
[11:00] <jo_> Hello @ll
[12:28] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[15:06] <Linzeestomp> Anyone with experience using KTorrent answer a quick question for me? I can't seem to add anymore magnets beyond 15 in the queue--is that a hard limit or something? I just wanna get all the magnets (i've got like 55) into the torrent queue and then slowly download everything.
[15:11] <BluesKaj> Linzeestomp, check ktorrent>settings>configure ktorrent>downloads
 Hey, I solved starting Gnome-software in terminal as root
 Launching gnome services at launch did not work :/
[15:18] <diogenes_> Franzpow, you can tweak the sudoers to allow running it without password, also you could make a shortcut that will ask for passwd when you launch the software cdnter but honestly, i'd use synaptic package manager, which in my opinion is the best.
 I don't know how to change package manager  but I think that gnome-software is rubbish. I like a lot more discover that comes out from Kubuntu
[16:45] <oerheks> i like synaptic above those 2, much more detailed softwarecenter
 Diogenes: Btw gnome software center  never asked me sudo permissions.. So it's strange
[16:45] <oerheks> sure gnome software asks your password, after selecting a package.
 Maybe in GNOME it does everything by itself
[16:45] <oerheks> synaptic starts with the password question :-)
 Yes.. Now I remember.. That's why it does not happen in xfce and I had that problem
 If I install Synaptic can I download the same packages from Ubuntu repos? Or I must change repositories?
[16:47] <oerheks> no, it is an universal tool
 Cool
[19:57] <PerfMonk> I would like to know where to go if I have question/Problem with kubuntu focal 20.04.  I have it installed on a USB key and got it running.  But since it still very young and have some issues, where should I go for signaling a problem ?
[19:59] <diogenes_> PerfMonk, not sure about the name but something like #ubuntu+1 oe #ubuntu-next.
[20:34] <genii> !focal
[20:40] <bprompt> ready in full for download on April 30, 11.59:59PM on 2020
[20:44] <PerfMonk> Thanks everybody!