[00:00] <lufi> ok got it. thanks. so its the DHCP server that gives these things automatically then.
[00:01] <tomreyn> that's a common scenario in such an environment, yes.
[00:03] <tomreyn> and usually the gateway will receive configurations from the internet service provider, including resolvers, which it just passes on to systems on the LAN then.
[00:06] <lufi> ooh. didn't know that one. thanks tomreyn.
[00:11] <tomreyn> lufi: related (and a good reason to run your own local caching resolver - not just a dns proxy as most cheap routers do): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNS_hijacking#Manipulation_by_ISPs
[00:12] <tomreyn> this is more of a topic for ##networking , though
[00:12] <lufi> tomreyn: yeah that's on my todo list. Im currently setting up proxmox in my spare unit here
[00:13] <lufi> and it got me wondering why the node can resolve stuff on LAN while the ct/vms cannot
[00:13] <lufi> they are bridged though
[00:14] <tds> lufi: as a heads up, pve will copy resolv.conf from the host to containers by default
[00:15] <lufi> yeah it does. I wanted them to use what the node uses
[01:11] <Phruis> anyone know if ubuntu has this package?
[01:11] <Phruis> configure: error: Package requirements (icu-uc >= 50.1 icu-io icu-i18n) were not met:
[01:13] <tomreyn> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libicu
[01:18] <Phruis> tomreyn, ahh thanks for some reason ac isn't finding the .pc files
[01:23] <Phruis> do you need to rebuild pkgconfig files?
[01:39] <oerheks> looks like you try to build an old sourcecode, before xenial
[01:56] <squarecircle> ohai, I need some advice on an OpenMP problem, where should I look? Any ideas?
[01:58] <Phruis> oerheks, i see thanks i will look into it
[02:05] <squarecircle> ok, I found ##c, thank you :)
[02:17] <Fuseteam> ##c?
[02:17] <squarecircle> Fuseteam: yeah, its the C programmers channel
[02:19] <Fuseteam> Cool did not know of that one, thanks
[02:21] <squarecircle> Fuseteam: you're welcome
[03:55] <kiiwiibiirb> How might I go about making my own ubuntu distro?
[03:58] <secsonthebeach> I’ve been working through this to make my own distro
[03:58] <secsonthebeach> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization#Customization_limits
[03:59] <kiiwiibiirb> Ah seems interesting, thank you
[04:06] <donofrio> help I just applied 1809 on w10 and now the resolution is huge....and this is though rdp.... also my wsl will no longer allow resolve.conf to be updated?  says "cp: not writing through dangling symlink '/etc/resolv.conf'" and I cannot ping yahoo.com nore does hexchat connect to espers.net (cannot resolve it) anything I can do?
[04:13] <Bashing-om> !wsl | donofrio
[04:21] <donofrio> that is a channel with 14 people in it vs here with over 1k
[04:21] <donofrio> i was able as root to touch resolv.conf and then I could cp the file like normal then ping returned and so did hexchat being able to get to espers.net but now I'm wondering what other symlinks maybe broken by "Performing one-time upgrade of the Windows Subsystem for Linux file system for this distribution..." process?
[05:17] <gendarme> How can I participate in bug reports if not on the flagship distribution?
[05:23] <maxzor> Hey, I have a longstanding issue, happened after release-upgrade months ago. When I close the lid of the laptop and it goes to sleep mode, I cannot login again, the login screen is frozen every other wake up. I am now on ubu 19.10. journalctl https://framabin.org/p/?37f896caae962430#h5JkpgACWwD5vfr5IJraOHOLkXGWavgYzVu1Asqr9hQ=
[05:24] <maxzor> bios up to date as I was suggested last time i asked here
[06:29] <gigi__> hi
[06:29] <gigi__> who is on?
[06:30] <gigi__> wget --no-clobber --convert-links --random-wait -p -E -e robots=off -U mozilla -P /home/jousr/Desktop/eeee www.qqqq.com
[06:30] <gigi__> why when i run this command a new folder is created?
[06:30] <gigi__> i dont want it to be created
[06:31] <gigi__> i want everything to be downladed in the eeee folder
[06:44] <CarlFK> 19.04 - is there an adobe acrobat that runs natively and not under wine?
[06:45] <gigi__> hi
[06:46] <gigi__> wget --no-clobber --convert-links --random-wait -p -E -e robots=off -U mozilla -P /home/jousr/Desktop/eeee www.qqqq.com
[06:46] <gigi__> why when i run this command a new folder is created?
[06:46] <gigi__> i want everything to be downladed in the eeee folder
[06:46] <CarlFK> gigi__: best to ask once (maybe again in a day) and then wait
[06:47] <gigi__> what if i lose the connection to the internet?
[06:49] <CarlFK> we still all saw your question
[06:49] <gigi__> the chat is somewhere logged?
[06:50] <gigi__> i lost the connection, that is why i srote my question again
[06:50] <CarlFK> yes.  but the url isn't in the topic... trying to dig it up
[06:53] <CarlFK> ubuntulog: !logs
[06:53] <CarlFK> ubottu: !logs
[06:54] <CarlFK> so many logs... try this https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/latest/%23ubuntu.html
[06:55] <gigi__> CarlFK, figured it out, added the : -nH -nd
[06:55] <CarlFK> huh seems there is some lag between here and there
[06:56] <CarlFK> gigi__: is that --no-directories and  --directory-prefix ?
[06:56] <CarlFK> I have used both of those, but not together
[06:57] <gigi__> well, i want to download all content from a webpage to a single folder
[06:57] <gigi__> well, i just tried and it worlked
[06:57] <gigi__> where u see: --no-directories ?
[06:58] <CarlFK> --no-host-directories will give you dirs under the host.  like if there is www.qqqq.com/foo/bar.html, you will get a foo/ dir
[06:59] <CarlFK> man wget - first option under Directory Options
[07:02] <gigi__> ah, yes, i already used the options -nH and -nd and it solved my issue
[07:03] <gigi__> thanks, anyway
[07:03] <gigi__> you are awesome
[07:04] <CarlFK> yer welcome!
[07:36] <gigi__> .
[07:36] <gigi__> smb knows some program that grabs all images in subfolders too and shows me them?
[07:36] <gigi__> something like google picassa
[07:37] <gigi__> for linux
[07:59] <t-killa> I'm confused why is nobody chatting in an irc channel?
[08:00] <oerheks> how do you tell, after 5 seconds..
[08:02] <dan101> Hi, if I buy a CPU that natively decodes codec X on hardware, does Ubuntu still need the right drivers to access this hardware acceleration?
[08:03] <oerheks> dan101, sure linux needs lib's to access that feature
[08:03] <dan101> oerheks: thx ^_^
[08:14] <ryuo> t-killa: most IRC channels are slow these days. usually only respond if you ask something.
[08:15] <ryuo> dan101: yes, but it doesn't end there. hardware accelerated video decoding also required application support which tends to be lacking on Linux.
[08:16] <dan101> ryuo: I see, so you first need to kernel to take advantage of the hardware then the applications to take advantage of the kernel?
[08:17] <dan101> ryuo: I wonder if Firefox via ffmpeg or gstreamer does video decoding via hardware acceleration
[08:17] <ryuo> dan101: first you need hardware that can even utilize it. then you need driver support which is primarily provided by mesa through VDPAU and VAAPI drivers.
[08:18] <ryuo> dan101: VAAPI is the key one these days.
[08:18] <ryuo> dan101: most standalone video players support these acceleration APIs.
[08:18] <ryuo> that i can tell.
[08:18] <ryuo> the main issue is browsers don't really support it.
[08:18] <ryuo> Firefox doesn't at all, even after all these years.
[08:18] <oerheks> only chrome does HW acceleration, no?
[08:19] <ryuo> oerheks: chromium/chrome don't enable it on Linux OOB. it's only available by patching afaik.
[08:19] <oerheks> correct
[08:19] <ryuo> i've also heard reports that webkit gtk based browsers can also accelerate video if setup correctly.
[08:20] <ryuo> but here's the thing... good luck finding a decent one of those. i've never found one that worked well.
[08:20] <ryuo> midori, crashes a lot. epiphany... never seemed to work very well.
[08:21] <ryuo> dan101: just stating it's a bit of a mess still. it's one critical feature I think firefox really lacks.
[08:26] <dan101> ryuo: but AFAIK firefox uses underlying gstreamer or ffmpeg witch do support hw acceleration. What am I missing?
[08:27] <ryuo> dan101: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1210727
[08:27] <dan101> ah
[08:27] <dan101> lol, I never thought rendering and decoding are two different things ^_^
[08:28] <Woodpecker> Im a developer. Whats a good way to store file metadata on ubuntu? I want to track which video files have been opened and watched.
[08:29] <dan101> Woodpecker: I'm also a developer, how do you do that? Is there a way to hook on the file system?
[08:29] <dan101> I mean how can you get notified when a file opens?
[08:29] <ryuo> This is offtopic. I can answer it in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[08:29] <dan101> correct, sorry
[08:30] <Woodpecker> dan101: well that is easy. If you are using Qt, you can use a filesystemwatcher
[08:32] <dan101> Any reason why Ubuntu doesn't include anymore commercial apps on it's software center? It used to that back in... 2014 idk
[08:32] <ducasse> Woodpecker: see the xattr man page
[08:32] <Woodpecker> ducasse: okay
[08:34] <Woodpecker> Oh wow, that is pretty low level.
[08:34] <ryuo> and not necessarily portable. your own database is more reliable.
[08:42] <Woodpecker> ryuo: Considering I am dealing exclusively with mp4 containers, does it contain maleable data? Could I theoretically just append my own metadata to the end of the file?
[08:42] <ryuo> Woodpecker: not necessarily. consider read-only media.
[08:43] <ryuo> Woodpecker: you can use xattrs, but it limits your portability and it also requires the user to be using a filesystem supporting it.
[08:44] <Woodpecker> Hummmm...  As to databasing, does ubuntu have anything setup for this kind of thing, or do I have to run my own postgresql thing?
[08:44] <Woodpecker> ryuo: oh I don't care about portability
[08:44] <Woodpecker> I guess I'll use that
[08:46] <ryuo> Woodpecker: depends. though your question makes me think you're a bit inexperienced... postgresql is a relational database. you don't usually use these for desktop applications though you could.
[08:46] <ryuo> Woodpecker: sqlite though is commonly found in desktop applications.
[08:47] <ryuo> Woodpecker: if you're developing for one particular DE in mind, you can use gsettings or dconf to store basic information in a simple database.
[08:48] <Woodpecker> ryuo: I am a 5 year qt developer, it is just that I have not settled on the proper way to keep state between sessions.
[08:48] <ryuo> those come for free with GTK+ or so.
[08:48] <ryuo> oh. QT...
[08:48] <ryuo> ok, no idea what QT would provide for data storage.
[08:49] <ryuo> Woodpecker: i have experience in a lot of subareas. mostly C topics.
[08:50] <Woodpecker> Databasing just seems overkill, and prone to errors, say if I just manually delete a file. I am thinking what I will do is create a JSON or similar file, stick it in the folder, and track changes there. What do you think?
[08:51] <ryuo> Woodpecker: if you use xattr, the extra data is gone when the file is deleted afaik.
[08:52] <Woodpecker> ryuo: Okay, what about `mv` ?
[08:52] <ducasse> that should keep xattrs
[08:52] <ryuo> Woodpecker: that uses the rename system call. only issue might be moving across filesystems.
[08:53] <Woodpecker> Does it work in wayland? I am looking at the "x" part of xattrs
[08:53] <ryuo> it has nothing to do with X11.
[08:53] <Woodpecker> oh okay, good.
[08:54] <ducasse> x = extra
[08:54] <Woodpecker> ahhhh
[08:54] <ryuo> extended in this case
[08:54] <ducasse> or that
[08:54] <Woodpecker> oh unix, with your cryptic and misleading names.
[08:54] <Woodpecker> "usr" != "user"
[08:55] <Woodpecker> "dev" != "development"
[08:55] <ryuo> it was designed for system administration. why would /dev be about development there?
[09:07] <elias_a> AFAIK /dev stands for device...
[09:09] <geirha> And /usr was where the users' homedirs were
[09:25] <dan101> geirha: really? historically user's home dir was in /usr? Hmnn... guess it makes sense why they've separated it
[09:26] <geirha> Yeah, iirc they ran out of space on the main filesystem, so as a hack they started putting new programs and stuff under /usr which still had more space available
[09:30] <Woodpecker> usr means "unix system resources"
[09:40] <osse> since /usr used to hold home dirs that sounds like a backronym
[09:42] <ryuo> /usr/home is still used on FreeBSD.
[09:43] <Woodpecker> crazy
[10:32] <Cheez> /usr/ explicitly does mean user in freebsd. just read man heir
[10:44] <maxzor> Help enjoyed, I have a longstanding issue, happened after release-upgrade months ago. When I close the lid of the laptop and it goes to sleep mode, I cannot login again, the login screen is frozen every other wake up. I am now on ubu 19.10. journalctl https://framabin.org/p/?37f896caae962430#h5JkpgACWwD5vfr5IJraOHOLkXGWavgYzVu1Asqr9hQ=
[11:29] <Sezza> Hi all, I have window tiling enabled in window preferences, but I am still unable to control snapping of windows in ubuntu-mate, is there another setting somewhere? Thanks. Sorry I know this is not technically vanilla ubuntu...
[12:28] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:30] <notimeforthis123> Most of my files in the user folder was just wiped during a normal apt upgrade on 18.04
[13:33] <notimeforthis123> So my question is - am I the only one?
[13:35] <rypervenche> notimeforthis123: You mean in your home directory?
[13:36] <notimeforthis123> jup
[13:37] <notimeforthis123> all files that where not standard config. And the standard config looks to be replaced. There was a couple of exceptions though. E.g. the Desktop folder
[13:37] <rbasak> Are you sure you don't have some weird situation like /home failing to mount after a reboot?
[13:37] <notimeforthis123> there was no reboot
[13:38] <rypervenche> An upgrade would not have done that. It's likely something else that happened around the same time. Or possibly something that the upgrade triggered.
[13:39] <rypervenche> notimeforthis123: Do you do your upgrades from the command line?
[13:39] <notimeforthis123> I just ran apt upgrade. I was using pycharm at the moment. 1 minute later pycharms crashes. A 200 gb encrypted container in my user root was dumped along with all the contents of Videos, Pictures, Documents etc.
[13:39] <notimeforthis123> Normally yes - this time it was the gui though.
[13:41] <rbasak> Filesystem corruption maybe?
[13:42] <rbasak> How do you have an "encrypted container in my user root"? That sounds like something non-standard. Could some problem with that be the source of your problem?
[13:42] <notimeforthis123> it was a veracrypt container mounted to a folder in the user home
[13:42] <notimeforthis123> been using that setup for years with no issues.
[13:43] <rbasak> Ubuntu doesn't ship veracrypt.
[13:44] <rbasak> Maybe it was an unfortunate interaction with something it does.
[13:44] <notimeforthis123> I know. But veracrypt failures means corruption of the file and/or some mess at the mount mount.
[13:45] <florinski> hello, I've just manually installed texlive on xenial and have problems with my paths
[13:46] <florinski> I've added a file to /etc/profile.d named "texlive.sh". It contains only the following: export PATH=/opt/texbin:${PATH}
[13:47] <florinski> after restart, "which tex" doesn't yield anything.
[13:47] <florinski> And, /opt/texbin links to where texlive is installed
[13:55] <notimeforthis123> alright - I will call it a loss. fresh install, recover what I can from backup.
[14:05] <florinski> solved the issue myself, copy/paste error. thank you.
[15:02] <Malgorath> okay I accidently removed my grub boot partition on sda.  I have my drives setup in LVM and can't mount /dev/sdc1 to /mnt to chroot and reinstall grub-install
[15:02] <Malgorath> any helps?
[15:07] <CarlFK> Malgorath: sec... I dont think that is it...
[15:09] <Malgorath> I have 2 8TB drives also in mdadm softraid(raid 0) but my OS is on /dev/sdc(1,2) SSD and I have /dev/sda which is a 1TB drive with nothing on it yet
[15:10] <someone235> Hi, did someone use xte? the command "xte key 'Home'" doesn't seem to do anything for me
[15:16] <xsjado_0rb> Hey all
[15:17] <CarlFK> Malgorath: I'm trying http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/eoan/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/boot.img.gz  with APPEND rescue=true ... or whatever to get a rescue thing that has a "fix grub" option
[15:18] <elias_a> I have a partly corrupted .mbox file. What program should I try to open it locally in order to rescue as much as possible?
[15:18] <xsjado_0rb> looking for help on a sound issue. Sometimes, not all the time, I get scratchy, slightly slower sound when starting a new youtube video or watching twitch (firefox). Is there something like a sound driver I can update or rather how would I check if my driver is up to date, or a different version is available?
[15:18] <xsjado_0rb> running ubuntu 19.10
[15:18] <elias_a> I am not so tech savvy when it comes to different mbox formats...
[15:25] <CarlFK> elias_a: what's an mbox?
[15:27] <xsjado_0rb> mbox file is a file, certain mail programs save their mailboxes into
[15:29] <CarlFK> oh easy: text editor.  "rescue as much as possible"  is not "easy way" ;)
[15:29] <Malgorath> CarlFK, figured it out actually, you have to lvscan and mount /dev/lvm_ name not /dev/sdc2
[15:30] <CarlFK> Malgorath: yay.  good.  I was not getting the rescue thing right.
[15:42] <nanthencodeneeth> how to check whether a port is open or not in ubuntu
[15:46] <CarlFK> natten: if network port, nmap -p 22 host/ip
[15:48] <xsjado_0rb> you can also run ss -tulpe from terminal
[15:52] <elias_a> CarlFK: Text editor is definately not the easy way. ;-)
[15:54] <xsjado_0rb> what application is the mbox file from?
[15:57] <KhakiIbex28> Is Ubuntu available in Windows 10
[15:58] <xsjado_0rb> you can find ubuntu in the microsoft store
[15:58] <elias_a> xsjado_0rb: Linux server.
[15:58] <lalitmee> Hey Guys, I am using Ubuntu 18.04 and I am facing some performace issue after I suspend and resume my laptop. It works slow. Any idea what could be the reason? I have 32 GB memory.
[15:58] <KhakiIbex28> Is it fast?
[15:59] <xsjado_0rb> I mean, which application uses the mbox file, like mozilla thunderbird, or the macOS mail or geary or similar.
[16:00] <xsjado_0rb> ubuntu does not need much resources, but the windows 10 version will not be as fast as a dual boot, I'm sure.
[16:00] <KhakiIbex28> Does it run Linux applications
[16:01] <k0mmo> hello
[16:02] <xsjado_0rb> hmm that depends on the application I'd say. I would recommend creating a VM with virtualbox or vmware instead of using ubuntu for windows on win10
[16:04] <KhakiIbex28> Cam i be able to use high resource apps like Gimp?
[16:05] <k0mmo> in unbuntu? yes
[16:05] <xsjado_0rb> depending on your host machine, yes it can
[16:05] <KhakiIbex28> That's amazing
[16:05] <ryuo> WSL is best used for testing non-GUI software.
[16:06] <KhakiIbex28> Ubuntu inbuilt in Windows
[16:07] <ryuo> though to get the full experience, it's better to run it natively.
[16:09] <KhakiIbex28> Will it have drag and drop function
[16:09] <elias_a> xsjado_0rb: That is the question I am asking: which program to use? Now I am trying to open the .mbox file with Evolution.
[16:10] <xsjado_0rb> mozilla thunderbird can mbox files
[16:11] <xsjado_0rb> what happens if you import the file with evolution?
[16:11] <xsjado_0rb> any usable errors?
[16:12] <elias_a> xsjado_0rb: Yes. I am trying Evolution first as while the .mbox was on the server Thunderbird claimed there were 2000+ damaged messages whereas Evolution handled the mailbox correctly.
[16:12] <elias_a> xsjado_0rb: Evolution crashed the firs time. :P
[16:13] <xsjado_0rb> How do you know evolution handels the mbox file correctly?
[16:15] <Woodpecker> evolution is still around? I remember when it was the default mail on ubuntu 6.04 or whatever
[16:16] <compdoc> wow, long time ago
[16:16] <elias_a> xsjado_0rb: While the mbox file was on the server I read it through IMAP with both TB and Evolution and Evolution did not show any errors.
[16:16] <Woodpecker> ;)
[16:16] <xsjado_0rb> ok and what's your goal right now?
[16:17] <elias_a> xsjado_0rb: I have done a mbox -> Maildir conversion to avoid mbox corruption and bumped into some problems. :P
[16:18] <elias_a> xsjado_0rb: I am trying to save the 2000+ emails Thunderbird thinks are corrupted. TB shows them without sender, subject and correct timestamp information.
[16:19] <xsjado_0rb> And evolution does show all infos?
[16:22] <elias_a> xsjado_0rb: Yes it did. Never seen anything like this before.
[16:25] <xsjado_0rb> but you cannot export the mails from evolution ?
[16:25] <oerheks> all mail clients can export emails
[16:40] <elias_a> xsjado_0rb: The file is not on the server anymore as I had switched to Maildir on the server. Therefore I need to open the mbox file I downloaded locally on my laptop.
[16:41] <elias_a> xsjado_0rb: I apologise slow replying. Opening a 6 gb file is a bit of a resource hog. :)
[16:44] <xsjado_0rb> all fine, so you can open the mbox file locally with evolution on your laptop without errors? If so, can you export the file afterwards, as in creating a new mbox file? Or are you looking to get the data of the mbox file into a different format? If so, do you have terminal access to that server and is the mbox file on that server?
[16:44] <iffraff> Hi, I'm on 18.04, all of a sudden , my system has been just going black screens.  I have a laptop with 2 external monitors and and egpu, the laptop monitor still shows the dock, but it is inactive, and the other two are black
[16:45] <iffraff> I tried to alt-f2 (and f1-4) and eventually something showed up said it couln't find luemo or something close to that and was reverting to default,
[16:46] <terra_art> Hello! I was wondering if somebody could help me get my computer back on the internet, I describe my problem here https://askubuntu.com/questions/1196446/18-04-total-loss-of-connectivity-wifieth-after-update
[16:46] <iffraff> then it said some process was unresponsive for 120 seconds, it showed that line about 8 times. then nothing, no response
[16:46] <terra_art> basically after an update on the 14th my computer can't connect to the internet anymore, even in cabled mode
[16:46] <xsjado_0rb> iffraff: Can you restart your laptop with no peripherals connected?
[16:47] <iffraff> seems to happen anywhere between successful bootup and about 10 minutes of use. the egpu temp is well within range
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> terra_art: did you try booting a previous kernel yet?
[16:47] <terra_art> lotuspsychje, I did, I tried 4.15.0-70-generic
[16:48] <iffraff> xsjado_0rb: yes, I can, I mean I suspect this has something to do with the gpu.  I just got back from a trip where I was just using laptop screen.  Now, I'm getting this behaviour
[16:48] <iffraff> pardon my spelling
[16:48] <terra_art> lotuspsychje: I did, I tried 4.15.0-70-generic but no luck, i couldnt go back any further, apt removed older kernels
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> terra_art: so, -70 and -72 have internet issues correct? wich cifi chipset are you on?
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> *wifi
[16:50] <iffraff> perhaps there is an ubuntu channel more for gpus?
[16:50] <terra_art> lotuspsychje: wlp2s0:"Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter'
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> terra_art: allrighty, another option could be trying the HWE kernel as a test
[16:53] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-generic-hwe-18.04 | terra_art
[16:53] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-generic-hwe-18.04 bionic | terra_art
[16:53] <spiceytje> Hey guys, I have a strange problem. Been using ubuntu for a couple of years now, never needed virus scanners or whatsoever. But recently, every time i post on a forum I've been a member from for years the sentence "What do you want to do? Copy" appears. It only happens with my account and noone gets it. I have no other problems using my computer , no weird things , nothing. Is someone pulling my leg or is this
[16:53] <spiceytje> some kind of virus?
[16:54] <xsjado_0rb> iffraff: difficult to troubleshoot via chat tbh. good luck with that
[16:54] <terra_art> lotuspsychje, ubottu: I'm not following guys, should I download an older kernel and install it?
[16:55] <terra_art> lotuspsychje, oh I see what you did there
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> terra_art: no, the HWE kernel for bionic is a newer kernel
[16:56] <terra_art> lotuspsychje, so I should try reboot switching to the HWE kernel?
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> terra_art: first you need to install the hwe kernel, then reboot into it yeah
[16:57] <elias_a> xsjado_0rb: I have not been able to open the file yet locally. Apparently would require more memory. I have terminal access to the server and am able to upload the mbox file back to the server.
[16:58] <xsjado_0rb> as no-root you can convert mbox files to maildir format with the command mb2md
[16:58] <xsjado_0rb> check the man page, from reading that, it seems not too hard.
[16:58] <xsjado_0rb> That would be my best guess right now
[16:59] <xsjado_0rb> seems to be easiest done on the server if your local machine has limited memory
[16:59] <elias_a> xsjado_0rb: I already did that and after that I am missing those corrupted mails.
[16:59] <terra_art> lotuspsychje, looking into it! I'm going to have to download it using this computer, not sure how to install it without using apt on the other one
[17:00] <xsjado_0rb> is that mbox file the original file you tried to convert from?
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> terra_art: can you still connect internet with a cable?
[17:01] <terra_art> lotuspsychje, nope, no connectivity at all, I tried through bluetooth tethering, ethernet, usb tethering, no luck
[17:02] <xsjado_0rb> elias_a: that might help http://dmc1961.id.au/howto_17101101.php
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> terra_art: wich chipset is your eth card?
[17:02] <spiceytje>  Hey guys, I have a strange problem. Been using ubuntu for a couple of years now, never needed virus scanners or whatsoever. But recently, every time i post on a forum I've been a member from for years the sentence "What do you want to do? Copy" appears. It only happens with my account and noone gets it. I have no other problems using my computer , no weird things , nothing. Is someone pulling my leg or is this
[17:02] <spiceytje> some kind of virus? Should i really re-install the whole thing? Not really looking forward to emptying my pc. I find it so strange, my pc doesn't behave like it's infected with a virus. Only on that forum only when I post something, this strange sentence appears in my post.
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> please dont repeat spiceytje
[17:03] <spiceytje> sorry for reposting it, pm is possible too
[17:03] <terra_art> lotuspsychje, enp1s0fi: unavailable
[17:03] <terra_art> "Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller"
[17:03] <terra_art> ethernet (r8169), F8:A9:63:72:7C:82, hw, mtu1500
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> terra_art: wich laptop brand is that?
[17:05] <xsjado_0rb> elias_a: got to go, good luck
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> terra_art: journalctl -f and disable/enable wifi and plug out/back in ethernetcable and see what errors you are getting
[17:06] <terra_art> lotuspsychje, acer aspire E5-571G
[17:06] <terra_art> lotuspsychje, sounds good! I figured out how to install kernel manually, now I'm browsing through https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ , just not sure which one I have to download
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> terra_art: you can search apt cache for the hwe kernel if you like
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> terra_art: apt-cache search hwe 18.04, for example
[17:08] <terra_art> lotuspsychje, cool! should I do the journalctl experiment of try with the kernel first?
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> terra_art: didnt you say you couldnt connect internet to download the hwe kernel?
[17:09] <terra_art> lotuspsychje, oh okay, so that will work on this other computer, I see
[17:11] <aberrant> morning all
[17:11] <aberrant> can someone step me through building a (patched) kernel for 19.10?
[17:11] <terra_art> morning
[17:11] <aberrant> all the guides I've found seem to be outdated.
[17:11] <me_> Hi,
[17:12] <aberrant> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=202665 is the problem I'm running into
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> aberrant: we dont support compiling own kernels, instead use the !mainline kernels
[17:12] <me_> Hi,
[17:12] <oerheks> aberrant, did you check for a biosupdate first?
[17:12] <aberrant> lotuspsychje: I need to apply a patch to fix a specific problem, though. :(
[17:12] <aberrant> oerheks: there are no firmware updates for the nvme
[17:12] <aberrant> I checked directly w/ Sabrent
[17:13] <aberrant> I did open a support ticket there as well
[17:13] <oerheks> biosupdate for the pc, not nvme ....
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> aberrant: did you file a !bug yet?
[17:13] <terra_art> lotuspsychje, here is the logs from journalctl https://pastebin.com/VmWkK2NX
[17:13] <oerheks> that patch is for 4.20 .. not sure you can do that for 5.x
[17:13] <me_> How to setup sar to collect temperture info?
[17:13] <aberrant> oerheks: there's an updated patch.
[17:14] <terra_art> lotuspsychje, trying to deactivate the wifi, I can make another one connecting and disconnecting eth cable, if you need
[17:14] <aberrant> http://git.infradead.org/nvme.git/commitdiff/530436c45ef2e446c12538a400e465929a0b3ade?hp=400b6a7b13a3fd71cff087139ce45dd1e5fff444
[17:15] <aberrant> !bug
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> terra_art: lets try to install the HWE kernel
[17:17] <terra_art> lotuspsychje, sounds good! i inputed apt-cache but i'm not sure how to go from there..
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> terra_art: apt-cache search hwe 18.04
[17:19] <terra_art> lotuspsychje, okay, should I post the output?
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> terra_art: no, sudo apt install (hwe-kernel-here)
[17:21] <oerheks> terra_art, how about booting in an previous kernel to fix things?
[17:21] <terra_art> oerheks, I did, still no luck...apt removed older kernels...
[17:22] <terra_art> lotuspsychje, I'm sorry Lotus, think I'm getting confused a bit, trying to find the name
[17:22] <spiceytje> lotuspsychje, am I überhaupt in the right room for my question? I see you're very busy but don't know if I should wait now or what to do. Does every question in here gets an answer?
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> terra_art: sudo apt install linux-generic-hwe-18.04 should do the trick
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> spiceytje: an issue arises in a forum...not sure how thats related to ubuntu?
[17:23] <oerheks> no, you *always* have a previous kernel
[17:24] <spiceytje> Neither me, but the onwer of the forum rests in silence and every member now thinks I am juts someone with a virus on the system :s
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> oerheks: he said both -70 and -72 has both eth and wifi issues
[17:25] <terra_art> lotuspsychje, E: Unable to locate package linux-generic-hwe-18.04
[17:25] <terra_art> , maybe it's cause this second computer is on ubuntu 19.10
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> spiceytje: if you really think your system is compromized, rkhunter, clamav and lynis your system
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> terra_art: hwe-18.04 is for 18.04
[17:27] <terra_art> lotuspsychje, the computer that is down is on 18.04, the one I'm writing from is on 19.10
[17:27] <spiceytje> ok thx a lot I'm going to check it out
[17:30] <terra_art> lotuspsychje, I figure I could download it from here and then install manually from a usb stick? https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic-updates/linux-generic-hwe-18.04
[17:31] <oerheks> !offline
[17:31] <oerheks> sure
[17:32] <oerheks> ..oh wait, from 19.10 this will not work
[17:32] <terra_art> oerheks, ops
[17:32] <terra_art> oerheks, too bad! cool to know anyways
[17:33] <terra_art> oerheks, lotuspsychje : I feel I'm a little bit at a stalemate, I've been trying too fix this for the past two days, might just make a fresh install, even if I'd rather not too..
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> terra_art: reccomended to trace down the issue first, before clean installing
[17:34] <terra_art> lotuspsychje, that's what I was thinking too!
[17:37] <terra_art> lotuspsychje, oerheks should I use AptonCd to install the hwe kernel?
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> think aptoncd method doesnt work anymore
[17:39] <terra_art> lotuspsychje, okay! what i find weird is that -70 doesnt work, wasn'I using that before update to -72? and if so why doesn't it work anymore? :puzzled:
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> terra_art: you could try to look in your dpkg logs what happened there lately
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> terra_art: these days ubuntu can also pull firmware updates in the background
[17:41] <aberrant> ok, bug filed
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> aberrant: you can also talk to the #ubuntu-kernel crew about your new bug #1856603
[17:42] <aberrant> oh, neat. ok
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> aberrant: also, AMD ryzen issues, you can test kernel 4.19
[17:48] <terra_art> lotuspsychje, log coming, pastebin is having some cloudflare issues
[17:53] <terra_art> lotuspsychje, here is the log! https://controlc.com/a5ae032e
[17:56] <elfatherbrown> Hi. So i had a digitalocean droplet ubuntu xenial and wanted to do-release-upgrade. Um... it did not work. I got an error from python stating at the bottom of the stack: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0x8b in position 1: invalid start byte. At the top: KeyError: 'ubuntu-minimal'... and exited
[17:57] <elfatherbrown> If i try to do-release-upgrade again i get: # do-release-upgrade
[17:57] <elfatherbrown> Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[17:57] <elfatherbrown> Please install all available updates for your release before upgrading.
[17:57] <EriC^> elfatherbrown: what does "sudo apt update" give?
[17:57] <spiceytje> fuck this im going to reinstall ubuntu i will never know what was wrong
[17:58] <spiceytje> but it frustrates me
[17:58] <spiceytje> none of the things I tried worked
[17:58] <spiceytje> it's like someone has been fucking with my rights
[18:00] <EriC^> spiceytje: it sounds like something to do with the options of your account on the forum itself, possibly some 'template' or something
[18:00] <elfatherbrown> @EriC^, https://pastebin.com/W1zRb1cH
[18:00] <elfatherbrown> @EriC^, Like that
[18:00] <EriC^> spiceytje: that's easy to test, try posting from your phone, same problem then it's forum-account related
[18:00] <spiceytje> no i tried that EriC^, on my smartphone no problems
[18:02] <EriC^> spiceytje: ok, what about doing it from a different user on ubuntu?
[18:02] <spiceytje> Lemme check that EriC^
[18:03] <elfatherbrown> @EriC^, (appstreamcli:8336): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_strchomp: assertion 'string != NULL' failed
[18:03] <elfatherbrown> AppStream cache update completed, but some metadata was ignored due to errors.
[18:03] <elfatherbrown> (sorry. i dont know if policy is to paste or to send pastebins... :/ ... long time no #ubuntu)
[18:04] <EriC^> elfatherbrown: pastebins, what about "sudo apt full-upgrade" ?
[18:05] <elfatherbrown> @EriC^, https://pastebin.com/Nb6Hk8wT
[18:05] <elfatherbrown> @EriC^, its very angry. Its like I did something terrible to it.
[18:06] <EriC^> hehe
[18:06] <EriC^> !info libpython3.5-minimal bionic
[18:06] <elfatherbrown> @EriC^, Good thing ive time to fix this now. Its one of those servers that are never touched because its "only for temporal development". Nothing as permanent as temporal servers... but we can be better during the holidays, givem love.
[18:07] <EriC^> elfatherbrown: i see
[18:07] <EriC^> elfatherbrown: what's "apt-cache policy libpython3.5-minimal" give?
[18:08] <elfatherbrown> https://pastebin.com/Hx88vVnx
[18:09] <Xard> huh, I don't know what updated but all of sudden ubuntu 18.04 LTS gnome animations are really smooth including the activities expose
[18:09] <elfatherbrown> Its stuck between versions. I did have plenty of third party stuff. Well not "plenty", just what was needed at the time: some R packages and other stuff
[18:10] <elfatherbrown> @EriC^, https://pastebin.com/Hx88vVnx
[18:10] <EriC^> elfatherbrown: it's whining about libpython3.5-minimal, but it seems installed ( same 3.5.2.... version)
[18:10] <elfatherbrown> Ah
[18:11] <EriC^> that's ... odd
[18:11] <elfatherbrown> Yeah. Im reluctant to just try and push for upgrading everything. It happened during do-release-upgrade so i dont think im getting off that easy
[18:12] <elfatherbrown> And Id really like to not have to reinstall... there is two DNS zones, Apache servers, certificates and stuff that id rather not have to do all over again.
[18:12] <terra_art> lotuspsychje, oerheks : here is dpkg log, realized previous link didnt work https://hastebin.com/apiloqisug.css
[18:12] <EriC^> elfatherbrown: what's the status of packages right now, try 'dpkg -l | grep -vE "^ii|^rc" '
[18:13] <spiceytje> EriC tried it form  another user account that i just added, posted on the forum , problem gone.
[18:13] <spiceytje> What does this mean? That my main accopunt is corrupted?
[18:14] <spiceytje> I just can't believe this 0.0
[18:14] <EriC^> spiceytje: yeah, it seems it's not system-wide, i'm curious if you use another browser from your account, like google chrome instead of firefox what happens?
[18:15] <EriC^> it might be some feature of the browser to add that text to that specific box, like an auto-complete or something
[18:15] <elfatherbrown> @EriC^, https://hastebin.com/kiqahategu.rb
[18:16] <terra_art> lotuspsychje, oerheks : from the logs I can see there was some firware updates
[18:17] <EriC^> elfatherbrown: try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[18:17] <elfatherbrown> @EriC^, so. It has come to that... :O
[18:18] <elfatherbrown> @EriC^, https://hastebin.com/uzaxurowed.pl
[18:18] <elfatherbrown> @EriC^, huh: nothing... thought it was going to go upgrade all 748 pkgs
[18:18] <EriC^> something's definitely weird with it
[18:19] <EriC^> nah the apt -f install only tries to resolve conflicts existing
[18:19] <EriC^> but what has me kinda curious is why it has so many 16.04 packages, and 748 waiting for upgrading
[18:20] <ioria> elfatherbrown, probably because your sources.list is already set to bionic and not xenial :    please paste   cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:21] <EriC^> elfatherbrown: what's the output of "tail -v -n+1 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}"
[18:21] <spiceytje> ok thanx EriC
[18:21] <EriC^> elfatherbrown: also, "cat /etc/issue"
[18:21] <spiceytje> I use firefox btw
[18:21] <EriC^> spiceytje: aha, give chrome a shot
[18:21] <EriC^> to see what happens
[18:21] <spiceytje> going to install chrome now thank you for helping me how to eliminate :D
[18:22] <sparr> Is there somewhere I can find a list of laptops on which I can expect full support for the hardware, including battery life comparable to Windows on the same laptop, from Ubuntu or some other linux distro(s)?
[18:22] <EriC^> spiceytje: also running 'grep -Ri "What do you want to do? Copy" ~'  might help find more info about it
[18:22] <EriC^> no problem
[18:23] <elfatherbrown> I am so old i didnt know termbin.com existed. https://termbin.com/vyzm
[18:23] <elfatherbrown> @EriC^, https://termbin.com/vyzm
[18:24] <EriC^> elfatherbrown: try "tail -v -n+1 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*} | nc termbin.com 9999"
[18:24] <EriC^> also what's "cat /etc/issue" give you?
[18:24] <ioria> elfatherbrown, you miss the -updates repo
[18:24] <raidghost> Is there ANY chance that microsoft office (like word and other) will run in wine?
[18:25] <elfatherbrown> @EriC^, Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS \n \l
[18:26] <elfatherbrown> @EriC^, thsi is the output of the tail command: https://termbin.com/p745
[18:26] <ioria> elfatherbrown, let's see if you have already bionic packages installed :  apt list --installed | grep -i bionic  | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:28] <EriC^> elfatherbrown: you're trying to upgrade to 18.04 right?
[18:28] <elfatherbrown> To the latest I can. Mind you, no package asked me that. I just do-release-upgrade
[18:29] <sparr> raidghost: older versions work fine. newest versions usually have problems
[18:29] <elfatherbrown> @ioria, https://termbin.com/pcn2 this is the output for the apt command
[18:30] <ioria> elfatherbrown, yes, we have a brutal mix there; i suggest to change your sources.list
[18:30] <elfatherbrown> ioria, it mustve been backed up
[18:31] <elfatherbrown> I did have a bunch of third party stuff there. gis libraries, opencpu R packages, certbot, elastic repo... too much...
[18:32] <EriC^> elfatherbrown: there are a number of ppa's related to xenial, might want to comment them out, then add the remaining bionic repos that are missing bionic-updates and bionic main etc
[18:32] <elfatherbrown> @EriC^, yes. trying to update to latest from xenial. Or thats what i thought
[18:32] <elfatherbrown> okay!
[18:32] <ioria> elfatherbrown, that would be a problem for sure; some ppa will be disabled but other sources might not
[18:33] <elfatherbrown> ok ok ... going forward then.
[18:33] <ioria> elfatherbrown, ok,  backup your current sources.list and replace with this :    https://termbin.com/5ufrp
[18:33] <EriC^> the system is such a mess tbh
[18:34] <ioria> elfatherbrown, then run  sudo apt update
[18:34] <spiceytje> dammit no problems from google chrome, no weird messages. It's firefox then :D
[18:34] <EriC^> i'd just fresh install especially since the upgrade path is going to be 'weird' (aka replacing sources vs do-release-upgrade) which btw does anyone really know exactly why that's bad on ubuntu?
[18:34] <EriC^> spiceytje: aha :D
[18:34] <EriC^> spiceytje: try the grep command
[18:34] <spiceytje> The relief! No weird hocus pocus yay
[18:35] <EriC^> spiceytje: or look for some autocomplete options in google
[18:36] <elfatherbrown> I know its horrible. Its old.
[18:39] <elfatherbrown> ioria, EriC^  okay ready to roll: https://termbin.com/1tcc
[18:40] <elfatherbrown> apt-get upgrade and start praying?
[18:40] <ioria> elfatherbrown, sorry forgot a line :  add this at the end and run again apt update  : deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[18:41] <EriC^> elfatherbrown: what's the sources.list look like atm?
[18:41] <elfatherbrown> ioria, okay done. Current sources.list: https://termbin.com/yetz
[18:41] <spiceytje> nope EriC^  the grep command only refers to the line in the log of irc
[18:41] <ioria> elfatherbrown, ok, sudo apt update
[18:41] <EriC^> spiceytje: ah i see, it's probably encrypted or something in google's settings
[18:42] <elfatherbrown> ioria, https://hastebin.com/ejejevetaj.rb
[18:42] <elfatherbrown> Thats the output. Has some warnings though
[18:42] <elfatherbrown> hum
[18:43] <ioria> elfatherbrown, sudo apt-get purge libappstream3
[18:44] <elfatherbrown> huh... well
[18:45] <ioria> elfatherbrown, sudo apt update  again
[18:45] <elfatherbrown> ioria, yes. It installed and upgraded:  libappstream4 libegl-mesa0 libegl1 libglvnd0 libpng16-16 libstemmer0d libwayland-egl1 libzstd1 plus all dependencies
[18:45] <elfatherbrown> apt update now has output clean of warnings
[18:45] <ioria> elfatherbrown, sudo apt update
[18:45] <ioria> elfatherbrown, ok
[18:45] <ioria> elfatherbrown,  sudo apt full-upgrade
[18:46] <elfatherbrown> ioria, roger that
[18:46] <aberrant> fm
[18:46] <aberrant> oops. sorry.
[18:47] <rfm> spiceytje, if it
[18:48] <rfm> spiceytje, if it's the firefox form filling, you could try clearing the form history,  https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/control-whether-firefox-automatically-fills-forms
[18:52] <elfatherbrown> ioria, it will take a while. And then ill have to see what broke, but i dont think too much.
[18:53] <spiceytje> rfm i just deleted firefox, reinstalled it and the problem is still there lmao wtf is going on.
[18:53] <spiceytje> but i will certainly check that link now
[18:54] <ioria> elfatherbrown,  good luck
[18:54] <EriC^> spiceytje: the configs aren't deleted when you remove firefox from apt, they stay in your home dir, apt never touches that
[18:54] <spiceytje> ha ok
[18:54] <EriC^> (even with apt purge)
[19:11] <jaybeers> is there a package for Firefox' unbranded builds?  I'm looking for the best way to preserve my current "Firefox experience" while also being able to run locally-developed extensions.  Seems like unbranded and ESR are the two best options that don't sacrifice stability, but I'm open to other options I haven't thought of
[19:13] <pragmaticenigma> jaybeers: This channel is focused on support issues (e.g. My ubuntu installation does do X, I can't launch program Y) ... For software recommendations and/or discussions, please see the #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss channels
[19:14] <pragmaticenigma> jaybeers: For a more developer centric channel, see #ubuntu-app-devel
[19:15] <jaybeers> ok, thanks, I'll take it to -discuss
[19:18] <elfatherbrown> ioria, EriC^ okay. finished upgrading. Had an error at some tex package. Removed it and upgraded now clean. Rebooting now to see if this worked thus far.
[19:19] <EriC^> great elfatherbrown
[19:20] <spiceytje> I don't exactly know what I did in firefox to make it stop, but phew it's gone. A whole forum is relieved now lol.
[19:21] <elfatherbrown> It booted and the DNS works!
[19:21] <elfatherbrown> :D
[19:22] <elfatherbrown> EriC^, ioria i missed this. I missed linux. Thank you.
[19:22] <EriC^> elfatherbrown: :D np
[19:37] <xormor> every electrical (digital) interactive device needs an interface - a user interface. there are also programming interfaces.
[19:39] <akik> about yesterday's question about imac dual boot with ubuntu, i decided to fix it by running "efibootmgr -o 0080,0000" after booting ubunt,u so that the next restart would start macos again
[19:43] <cluelessperson> So, I've recently upgraded from Ubuntu 19.04 to 19.10
[19:43] <cluelessperson> and now, VLC cannot play video full screen
[19:43] <cluelessperson> The screen seems to glitch out back and forth. :(
[19:44] <cluelessperson> wait, it's working fine now
[19:44] <cluelessperson> wtf
[19:45] <pragmaticenigma> cluelessperson: Please mind your acronyms and language. Keep it family friendly here
[19:46] <pragmaticenigma> cluelessperson: Also, check your VLC settings... it might be set to autodetect video decoders. and it might have taken a few tries to figure out hardware acceleration for better video playback performance
[19:54] <cluelessperson> pragmaticenigma, are you a mod here?
[19:56] <pragmaticenigma> cluelessperson: This is a volunteer run channel. There is a code of conduct and community guidelines to read up on if you're curious about the channel's rules.
[19:56] <pragmaticenigma> !coc | cluelessperson
[19:56] <pragmaticenigma> !guidelines | cluelessperson
[19:58] <cluelessperson> pragmaticenigma, I dislike censorship.
[19:59] <CarlFK> cluelessperson: then this may not be the #channel for you
[19:59] <cluelessperson> CarlFK, I'm confused.
[19:59] <pragmaticenigma> cluelessperson: you're being asked to mind what you type. there are plenty of ways to articulate an idea that does not require the usage of cussing or derogatory language.
[20:02] <cluelessperson> pragmaticenigma, I very much dislike that you imply that I don't mind what I type, and that you conflate "derogatory" which means to disrespect, with that of expressing emotion.
[20:03] <pragmaticenigma> cluelessperson: This isn't the place for this debate. Please join #ubuntu-ops if you wish to discuss this further
[20:04] <cluelessperson> pragmaticenigma, I don't see you in there, are you a mod?
[20:05] <CarlFK> cluelessperson: If you are not going to follow the rules, please leave the channel.
[20:05] <ioria> cluelessperson, there might be under age people in here, that's all
[20:08] <cluelessperson> CarlFK, I didn't say I wouldn't follow the rules.  I'm just seeking to engage with this person that thought it necessary to call me out. :)
[20:14] <cluelessperson> pragmaticenigma, in spite of enjoying debating the ethics, I am sorry for being a bit callous. :P  I agree that wasn't particularly productive and I'll try to be better.
[20:47] <cluelessperson> I'm not sure how to troubleshoot the things I run into properly.  It's a little frustrating.
[20:48] <Sbur3> I’m using Ubuntu 19.10. Trying to format a USB drive in Fat32. Been unable to change its owner from root to my user.
[20:49] <bprompt> cluelessperson:   that as always, depends on the specifics
[20:49] <bprompt> Sbur3:   come again?  you can just do it in Gparted, no?
[20:50] <Sbur3> I’ve used gpart to set up the partition (/dev/sdd) and tried chown and chmod to change the owner
[20:50] <leftyfb> Sbur3: fat32 doesn't support linux permissions. What exactly is the issue you're running into?
[20:51] <akem__> Sbur3, Maybe you want the mount option uid=,gid=?
[20:51] <bprompt> Sbur3:  the owner? check what leftyfb ^ said
[20:51] <sarnold> Sbur3: man 8 mount, search for "Mount options for fat"
[20:52] <bprompt> well, it doesn't have to be mounted to be formatted
[20:52] <Sbur3> leftyfb try to transfer music (mp3) onto the usb stick to use it on my car’s sound system. permissions denied
[20:52] <sarnold> it only has 'owner' once it is mounted
[20:52] <sarnold> when it is unmounted it has no concept of owner
[20:53] <leftyfb> Sbur3: ok, were you able to successfully format it as fat32?
[20:53] <Sbur3> leftyfb I formatted it fat32 via gpart
[20:53] <lordcirth__> Sbur3, you formatted /dev/sdd, or /dev/sdd1?
[20:54] <Tobbi> Can anyone using ubuntu 18.04 please try to reproduce this? https://github.com/SuperTux/supertux/issues/1280
[20:54] <Sbur3> lordcirth_ I believe it was sdd, but I’m not certain
[20:55] <leftyfb> Sbur3: use gparted, setup a new partition table on the device, create a new DOS partition and format it as fat32
[20:56] <cluelessperson> Sbur3,   I imagine there are several layers to this.   Permissions which may be applied to the contents of the disk itself.   "Mapping" possibly done when mounting the drive, and "overriding" which might be performed by an application .
[20:56] <cluelessperson> So, file attributes, mounting translation, and gatekeeping by application.
[20:57] <sarnold> Tobbi: https://github.com/SuperTux/supertux/blob/32263950d315b0d7dbf1d70dedc8b7cd98cf57db/mk/cmake/ConfigureChecks.cmake
[20:58] <sarnold> Tobbi: looksl ike things are working as intended, no?
[20:58] <Tobbi> sarnold: Actually, you might be right.
[20:58] <Tobbi> I don't know enough about what to do in this case.
[20:59] <sarnold> me neither.. IO've got to run, but chances are good this test is workiung as designed to detect that iconv's return value is size_t
[21:00] <Tobbi> Thanks anyway :)
[21:00] <Tobbi> I'll have to find out why we're doing this.
[21:08] <Sbur3> ok. thx
[21:24] <dreamon> Bashing-om, Good evening. Do you remember me. I found a solution of my hdmi no audio issue
[21:30] <SomeT> anyone know as per https://gyazo.com/d1b68d1f5e3f73bd345bd02d58f6c4b4 if this vim in apt-get is 64 bit or 32 bit pls?
[21:32] <fkhell> Hi. I am running 18.04 on a dell xeon system and it always had an issue that it could not reboot (this leads to the ubuntu start screen halting at 2 lit dots) but since one of the recent kernel upgrades I also cannot use suspend any longer, it blanks the screen then shuts down. 'last' shows crash as a reason for shutdown. problem 2 since one of the last apt upgrades is that the keyboard seems to send
[21:32] <fkhell> multiple keys for some keys like down also sends keycode 234 and starts VLC and in addition I cannot use ALT GR any longer (right alt key), it seems to send keycode 156
[21:33] <fkhell> I have tried dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration but it didn't change anything
[21:33] <fkhell> sorry, this is actually on 16.04
[21:34] <stan_man_can> I have a service that generates a TON of logs and it's filling up my VPS really quickly
[21:34] <Bashing-om> dreamon: Yup remember - Yeah ! What solution - (Been waiting on you to try the Wayland protocal :D
[21:34] <stan_man_can> Is there a way in my app.service file to customize where the logs go so I can send them to a volume instead of /var/log/syslog ?
[21:36] <ducasse> stan_man_can: /etc/rsyslog.conf, but journald does it's own thing
[21:37] <stan_man_can> ducasse is there any way to just move all logging to the volume ?
[21:37] <stan_man_can> my VPS is only 25GB and I added a 50GB volume at /mnt/{name} so if I could just move the syslog's to go there instead ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[21:39] <ducasse> stan_man_can: move /var/log and symlink?
[21:40] <stan_man_can> oh hold on, it looks like in the /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf i can set the log files by facility, then in systemd i can set the facility for the logs, so i wonder if that would work
[21:41] <SomeT> anyone know as per https://gyazo.com/d1b68d1f5e3f73bd345bd02d58f6c4b4 if this vim in apt-get is 64 bit or 32 bit pls?
[21:46] <ducasse> SomeT: if you mean the default repos, then that depends on your install
[21:48] <SomeT> my install supports both 32 bit and 64 bit
[21:48] <SomeT> its ubuntu server droplet
[21:48] <SomeT> on digital ocean
[21:49] <dreamon> Bashing-om, I can switch between nvidia and intel .. made a script that copys the right configs into /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ ..
[21:50] <dreamon> Bashing-om, Fixing hdmi audio issue. I had to modify /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[21:50] <dreamon> Instead of → options snd-hda-intel model=generic → options snd-hda-intel model=lenovo
[21:51] <dreamon> Bashing-om, Now it works..
[21:51] <dreamon> Bashing-om, Thank you very much. Without your help, I never could fix it by myself.
[21:52] <Bashing-om> dreamon: Well ain't you something :D care to share that script ?
[21:54] <dreamon> Bashing-om, my script only copies a xorg.conf with intel parameter in it or otherwise a nvida xorg.conf. 10-nvidia.conf or 20-intel.conf. I think there is a better way. but for me its ok.
[21:55] <dreamon> Bashing-om, by switching → sudo prime-select nvidia → he used still this intel xorg..
[21:57] <Bashing-om> dreamon: Hokay - I forget where that switching is supposed to take place - so there is a config failure That you gave worked around !
[21:58] <dreamon> or maybe I could insert all in one file and X Server startup should automatic use correct parameter.. but I dont know. therefore I simply copy it.
[22:00] <dreamon> Bashing-om, I simply want to say thanks. you made me a lucky man.
[22:04] <Bashing-om> dreamon: Well, you did all the heavy lifting - I do appreciate that pat on the back however :)
[22:05] <Bashing-om> dreamon: For your thoughts - I worked a similar issue with another; and lo-and-behold Wayland worked with no issues !
[22:15] <ramsub07> hello. i'm trying a solution to be able to fix the static brightness issue on my ubuntu 18.04.  : https://askubuntu.com/questions/762764/cant-change-brightness-since-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[22:15] <ramsub07> however, i face the same error mentioned in this comment , https://askubuntu.com/questions/762764/cant-change-brightness-since-ubuntu-16-04-lts#comment1883517_859480
[22:20] <dreamon> ramsub07, Today I fixed my backlight issue by removing most of it, only "quiet splash" left. so I could mdify it normally on my lenovo notebook
[22:21] <akik> he left
[22:22] <dreamon> :(
[22:22] <akik> i can write directly to /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness and control it like that
[22:23] <akik> in some earlier distro i needed to set acpi_backlight=vendor
[22:23] <dreamon> akik, that worked for me too. but using keystrokes is much easier
[22:23] <akik> dreamon: i bound them in plasma shortcuts
[22:24] <dreamon> this part I had to remove. vendor option was my problem
[22:29] <fkhell> evtest gives me code 148 for r_alt while xev gives me 156 - where could the cause of this be? (in 16.04, see above)
[22:29] <fkhell> i think both codes are wrong as well, it should be 92 i think
[22:34] <Bashing-om> fkhell: My result ( US keyboard): "keycode 108 (keysym 0xffea, Alt_R),".
[22:35] <fkhell> thanks, my result on my working 18.04 computer is 108 as well, then the line below says XKeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 92
[22:35] <fkhell> i just don't know where to fix it (and why it is broken)
[22:36] <fkhell> incidentally the 18.04 computer also gave some (different) wrong keys, like END sending comma as well, but that was fixed with dpkg-reconfigure
[22:37] <Bashing-om> fkhell: Yup - seems something is intercepting - my advisory also has " XFilterEvent returns: False " .
[22:41] <fkhell> yes it has the same for me on both computers. i am trying to locate a keymap now, the old place in lib udev seems obsolete
[22:43] <fkhell> or maybe i just have to create it myself
[22:43] <ramsub07> hello, sorry i was trying some solution but didn't work. how do I fix constant high brightness on dell xps 15? and ubuntu 18.04?
[22:44] <Bashing-om> fkhell: EFI system ? on a BIOS boot GRUB can directly read the I/O port where the keyboard status bits for Shift/Alt/Ctrl are stored to get their state, but EFI services don't provide that access.
[22:48] <Bashing-om> fkhell: Looked at /usr/share/X11/xkb/keycodes/evdev ?
[22:56] <fkhell> it's not EFI, as far as i can tell (no /sys/firmware/efi) and i have looked at the evdev keycodes and they specify ralt as 108
[22:59] <fkhell> I plugged in a 2nd keyboard and it shows the correct keycodes / it works
[23:00] <fkhell> unfortunately I would like to use the original keyboard if possible, so I probably have to remap the keys somehow
[23:03] <fkhell> the keyboard that works is USB, the one that doesnt work correctly is PS/2
[23:11] <fkhell> is there a way to see which of the /lib/udev/hwdb.d/60-keyboard.hwdb are actually applied?
[23:23] <leaftype> fkhell, a bit of duckduckgo leads me to this command: udevadm info /dev/input/by-path/*-usb-*-kbd
[23:24] <leaftype> I don't know if it's what you're looking for though, so I'm still poking around
[23:33] <Greenfrog> kubuntu 18.04 discover wont open all other apps work
[23:33] <fkhell> thanks leaftype, i found that one as well, only the path is not usb, but i got the right path and it shows some keys being bound, but not actually the relevant ones
[23:35] <leaftype> fkhell, were you rebinding some keys?
[23:36] <poxifide> so i can't figure out why my ethernet upload is being capped at 0.39MB/s
[23:37] <leaftype> poxifide, ouch. My first thought is always "WTF ISP, I pay you money for this"
[23:40] <poxifide> it doesn't seem to be the ISP. i'm using an odroid-xu4 w/ armbian (their unofficial channel is dead it seems..). i have two devices and both return the same results, so i don't think it's hardware related. tried getting rid of networkmanager (disabling) and using systemd-networkd (download is faster, upload same). tried on other machines using the same speedtest server 1778 and the upload isn't capped.
[23:40] <poxifide> (i have two odroids cause i was using one for Android for a while heh)
[23:41] <poxifide> i should test lan upload, haven't done that
[23:42] <fkhell> leaftype: i was not rebinding anything before the problem occured. now i tried to rebind the 2 scancodes i get to rightalt, but it didnt seem to work
[23:44] <poxifide> ok... lan is uncapped. yet laptop and odroid are returning different results from speedtest still... maybe i should just give the modem a reboot.
[23:49] <fkhell> you could be using a wrong MTU
[23:50] <jeremy31> fkhell: what is normal MTU, 1500?
[23:51] <fkhell> 1500, but for DSL connections it's better to use 1492 if i remember correctly
[23:54] <fkhell> my ps2 keyboard works after a reboot now. it took my hwdb remappings and my xorg conf changes, but i think it just works without the remappings anyway since xev and evtest now show the correct scancode (and pressing the arrow keys does not start vlc now)
[23:55] <fkhell> thanks to anyone who helped :)
[23:55] <poxifide> how do you check mtu i forgot
[23:55] <poxifide> also im on comcast
[23:55] <fkhell> it should show up in ifconfig
[23:56] <poxifide> rebooted and getting 1.50MB/s upload on my laptop, still 0.39MB/s on odroid
[23:56] <poxifide> *rebooted modem
[23:57] <fkhell> ifconfig | grep -i mtu
[23:58] <poxifide> mtu is 1500. modem is an xfinity modem/router. only other thing in between is a netgeear 8port ethernet switch.