[11:46] Hi folks [15:50] https://twitter.com/kdecommunity/status/1207307298621808641 [15:56] RikMills: Have you heard about the compositor improvements in kwin for 5.18? It is pretty awesome. One of the bigger improvements is that GLX_INTEL_swap_event is finally enabled by default, which reduces input lag and eliminates a lot of stuttering and microstuttering! [15:56] (It can be enabled in 5.17 using the KWIN_USE_INTEL_SWAP_EVENT envvar to test.) [15:57] I have heard bits and pieces. Looking forward to building the beta! [15:57] Ohh. Nice [15:58] The ironic thing is that KWIN_USE_INTEL_SWAP_EVENT makes my laptop with an Intel HD 5500 iGPU make my desktop with the GeForce GTX 970 look like a laggy, stuttery mess by comparison despite being much more powerful, since it doesn't support that extension. [16:01] I'm actually looking to replace that with something that has integrated graphics since I don't play games anymore, but I can't find anything of the form factor I'm looking for (NUC) that has dual DisplayPort 1.2 (or Thunderbolt) ports… [16:06] It is quite silly because DisplayPort 1.2 can be adapted to HDMI2 for cheap or HDMI1.4 for even cheaper, but the only HDMI2 to DisplayPort 1.2 adapter costs $140 and apparently doesn't even work very well. DisplayPort just gives better flexibility. Just like back in the mid-2000s when GPUs often had a DVI port and a VGA port. Why not have 2 DVI ports? DVI actually has analog pins in it, so it can be passively adapted to VGA, but VGA [16:06] cannot be adapted to DVI at all. [16:06] OK, display interface rant over. Sorry. [16:07] mamarley: nice. a laptop I intend to put Focal on has a Intel HD 620, which looks to be a little but up on your 5500, so that looks promising! [16:07] *little bit [16:08] Actually most/all Mesa drivers support that extension. It only says INTEL because they developed it. [16:08] makes sense [16:13] I had already found that the Intel graphics had less stuttering than NVIDIA on kwin, especially related to creating/destroying tooltips and windows. This just makes it all that much better. [16:16] actually this desktop with Nvidia had an integrated Intel HD on the MB. It might be worth pulling the Nvidia card now [16:17] though maybe too old if this is new thing [17:57] RikMills: Nope, it isn't new. It has been around for quite a while; it just won't be enabled in kwin until 5.18 by default.