[11:46] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
 https://twitter.com/kdecommunity/status/1207307298621808641
[15:56] <mamarley> RikMills: Have you heard about the compositor improvements in kwin for 5.18?  It is pretty awesome.  One of the bigger improvements is that GLX_INTEL_swap_event is finally enabled by default, which reduces input lag and eliminates a lot of stuttering and microstuttering!
[15:56] <mamarley> (It can be enabled in 5.17 using the KWIN_USE_INTEL_SWAP_EVENT envvar to test.)
 I have heard bits and pieces. Looking forward to building the beta!
 Ohh. Nice
[15:58] <mamarley> The ironic thing is that KWIN_USE_INTEL_SWAP_EVENT makes my laptop with an Intel HD 5500 iGPU make my desktop with the GeForce GTX 970 look like a laggy, stuttery mess by comparison despite being much more powerful, since it doesn't support that extension.
[16:01] <mamarley> I'm actually looking to replace that with something that has integrated graphics since I don't play games anymore, but I can't find anything of the form factor I'm looking for (NUC) that has dual DisplayPort 1.2 (or Thunderbolt) ports…
[16:06] <mamarley> It is quite silly because DisplayPort 1.2 can be adapted to HDMI2 for cheap or HDMI1.4 for even cheaper, but the only HDMI2 to DisplayPort 1.2 adapter costs $140 and apparently doesn't even work very well.  DisplayPort just gives better flexibility.  Just like back in the mid-2000s when GPUs often had a DVI port and a VGA port.  Why not have 2 DVI ports?  DVI actually has analog pins in it, so it can be passively adapted to VGA, but VGA 
[16:06] <mamarley> cannot be adapted to DVI at all.
[16:06] <mamarley> OK, display interface rant over.  Sorry.
[16:07] <RikMills> mamarley: nice. a laptop I intend to put Focal on has a Intel HD 620, which looks to be a little but up on your 5500, so that looks promising!
[16:07] <RikMills> *little bit
[16:08] <mamarley> Actually most/all Mesa drivers support that extension.  It only says INTEL because they developed it.
[16:08] <RikMills> makes sense
[16:13] <mamarley> I had already found that the Intel graphics had less stuttering than NVIDIA on kwin, especially related to creating/destroying tooltips and windows.  This just makes it all that much better.
[16:16] <RikMills> actually this desktop with Nvidia had an integrated Intel HD on the MB. It might be worth pulling the Nvidia card now
[16:17] <RikMills> though maybe too old if this is new thing
[17:57] <mamarley> RikMills: Nope, it isn't new.  It has been around for quite a while; it just won't be enabled in kwin until 5.18 by default.