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oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:06
dufluMorning oSoMoN06:07
oSoMoNhey duflu06:30
jibelhi oSoMoN, duflu and everyone06:32
duflujamesh, is that problematic version 7.5 (reverted from updates to proposed) going to get released again in 7.6?06:34
dufluThe code hasn't changed06:34
dufluhttps://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/pulseaudio/log/?h=ubuntu-bionic06:34
dufluMorning jibel06:34
jameshduflu: it will migrate back to updates with the new snapd-glib06:34
duflujamesh, good then :)06:34
jameshno need for a new release06:34
dufluI was worried about having to rewrite the history of 7.6 before it goes out06:35
jameshI don't think anyone has discovered any problems with the policy module: it was just the dependency issue with libsnapd-glib1 pulling in snapd06:36
duflu👍06:44
oSoMoNsalut jibel07:11
oSoMoNhey jamesh07:11
marcustomlinsonduflu: did you determine that libreoffice was actually at fault here? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/185670207:32
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1856702 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "LibreOffice window behind Firefox was flickering when Firefox asked me for a passsword to access the CUPS logs." [Undecided,New]07:32
marcustomlinsonsounded more like a general rendering issue than specifically libreoffice. curious if you knew something more about it07:35
duflumarcustomlinson, no just most likely LO if other apps are unaffected07:45
dufluBack later...07:45
marcustomlinsonmorning desktoppers08:38
dufluOh hi marcustomlinson :)08:40
marcustomlinsonI'm really awake now ;)08:40
duflumarcustomlinson, I tidied up bug 1856702 for you.08:55
ubot5bug 1856702 in mutter (Ubuntu) "LibreOffice window behind Firefox was flickering when Firefox asked me for a passsword to access the CUPS logs." [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185670208:55
marcustomlinsonoh excellent thanks!08:55
Laneyo/09:02
duflu                      \o09:09
oSoMoNgood morning marcustomlinson, Laney10:03
popeyGood morning10:32
popeyif gnome-shell is consuming 3.0g RES in top, should I be concerned?10:33
popeyI mean, i have 32GB RAM, but this seems excessive10:33
dufluMorning popey, yes gigabytes is a concern but only if it is RES or RSS10:38
dufluWe have bug 1856516 about that just this week10:38
ubot5bug 1856516 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Excessive memory usage in Wayland session" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185651610:38
popeylast time this happened you asked me to gather vmm data10:38
popeyhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HKWmz7gKhx/10:38
popeyI'm on x10:39
popeyi have a cronjob I just started which gathers the data you asked for in another bug report10:39
duflupopey that history shows the RSS at 3.2GB the whole time. Thanks, but I am not sure we need more info other than that proof of a bug. Maybe just ensure you don't have any non-Ubuntu extensions10:40
popeyis there a way to list my active extensions easily?10:40
dufluI'm not sure if you want an *accurate* list. I rely on the automatic attachments to peoples' bug reports10:41
duflupopey, also they have to be uninstalled. Anything installed but inactive can still hurt10:41
dufluBecause bugs10:42
popeyhm, okay. I don't actually think I have any, but i cant be 100% certain10:42
popeyindeed10:42
popeyI'll file a dummy bug in ubuntu-bug against gnome-shell and throw it away, that'll gather it?10:42
duflupopey, yes I was just about to ask for that. It's more valid than "dummy" :)10:42
popeyhah10:43
popeyok, while I do that, check this out. another bug I dunno if it has been filed...10:43
popeyhttps://youtu.be/869e9YwW0vw10:43
dufluWhoa, youtube within youtube. Yeah I am looking at stutters/freezes again now10:44
dufluUnless strace or something in the journalctl -f shows a possible cause then I am not sure what to suggest right now10:45
popeyok10:45
dufluIO% is an interesting angle though10:46
dufluGot to run10:51
JanCgnome-shell always keeps growing the longer you run it, unfortunately11:19
popeyI tend to be averse to rebooting, I suspend my laptop all the time and leave it running all day and night often.11:22
popeyWhich I don't think is unreasonable behaviour :)11:22
JanCyou can always try restarting gnome-shell, that should get you some memory back11:23
popeyGood point.11:23
JanCgnome-shell is at 4.7 GiB here now, so I guess I should restart it too...  :P11:26
JanC(desktop that is running pretty much 24/7)11:27
JanCwith an uptime of a couple of weeks...11:28
popeydo you have a bunch of extensions out of interest?11:28
JanCI have some, but I tested for a couple weeks 1 or 2 releases ago where I only had the default ones, and it had the same issues11:30
JanCcompiz also had similar issues, of course...11:31
RikMillsI seem to recall a bug about ubiquity detecting hardware stage hanging for a long while with 100% CPU? Does anyway have a link?12:00
hellsworthgood morning desktopers16:03
oSoMoNgood morning hellsworth16:21
hellsworthhi!16:21
hellsworthi hope your day is going well :)16:21
oSoMoNhellsworth, it is, thanks! how are you?16:39
hellsworthoh i'm great thanks!16:43
marcustomlinsonjdstrand: hey, I'm new to this sort of issue, is there something I need to do for this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/184968017:44
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1849680 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "audit spam in dmesg (libreoffice)" [Undecided,New]17:44
jdstrandmarcustomlinson: I've not looked at the packaging much before just now, but it looks like debian/rules references dh_apparmor and there is setup via sysui/desktop/share/apparmor.sh. the basic process would be to patch to add accesses to the profiles. best practice would be to attach that to the bug and a member of the security team can review it17:52
marcustomlinsonokidokes17:54
marcustomlinsonthanks17:54
jdstrandmarcustomlinson: if you need help with the rules, that's fine too17:55
jdstrandmarcustomlinson: /sys/fs/cgroup/{,**} r, would be one17:55
jdstrandmarcustomlinson: using the dri-common abstraction would be another17:56
jdstrandmarcustomlinson: using the mesa abstraction for the mesa_shader_cache write is probably fine17:58
jdstrandmarcustomlinson: you can test that the profile compiles with 'apparmor_parser -QTK profile' (no root needed) and can load into the kernel with 'apparmor_parser -r profile' (you probably knew that :)17:59
jdstrandmarcustomlinson: @{PROC]/@{pid}/cgroup r,18:00
jdstrandmarcustomlinson: @{PROC]/@{pid}/mountinfo r,18:00
jdstrandmarcustomlinson: I think that all together that'll get rid of a lot of noise18:00
marcustomlinsonjdstrand: that helps a lot thanks!18:09

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