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jirido_Hi. I just installed on an old acer one with atom 270n cpu. As i like compiz I installed fusion-icon but gets segemetation faults straight out of the box.. compiz --replace works ok thou..09:24
jirido_Is this a common problem? Should i maybe ask in #ubuntu even thou Im on lubuntu?09:26
jirido_jirido@jirido-smottin:~$ fusion-icon -vv09:41
jirido_ * Detected Session: Lubuntu09:41
jirido_ * Searching for installed applications...09:41
jirido_ -- /usr/bin/compiz09:41
jirido_ -- /usr/bin/openbox09:41
jirido_ -- /usr/bin/gtk-window-decorator09:41
jirido_hm can i send still?09:42
jirido_yeah thanks red queen09:42
jirido_well as i posted earlier i cant get fusion icon to work.. is there some package i should ad maybe?09:57
guivercjirido_, you installed what?  I don't see mention of a release of Lubuntu, and if you want to paste multiple lines, please use pastebinit10:08
guiverc!pastebinit10:08
ubottupastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit10:08
guivercand you're most welcome to ask in #ubuntu; Lubuntu is an official flavor so you'll be ontopic in #ubuntu (ask in only one room at a time though; give people a chance to reply otherwise people in both rooms will get annoyed & everyone tends to go quiet on you)10:09
mmmmmmmmmmIs there a13:33
lubot<HMollerCl> yes, there is a, as well as b.13:34
mmmmmmmmmmIs there any recommended partition setup for 19? I'm having trouble with mine and Im not sure if Im doing it correctly as my installation is failing due to the dreaded "Boost.Python error in job "unpackfs" error13:34
mmmmmmmmmmMy partition setup is: /boot: 1 GB, / 14gb, Swap: 2 GB, /var: 7GB, /home: rest (95.7) gb.13:38
lubot<HMollerCl> sorry I can't help, I always use default, not much partitioning.13:40
diogenes_mmmmmmmmmm, if you do UEFI then you gonna need another 300 MB vfat partition, mountpoin /boot/rfi13:41
diogenes_ /boot/efi*13:41
mmmmmmmmmmSecure boot etc is disabled (and I dont plan on enabling it). Should i still add it?13:41
diogenes_mmmmmmmmmm, the fact that you disabled secure boot, doesn't mean that you disabled UEFI too.13:43
mmmmmmmmmmTrue13:43
diogenes_check with the BIOS settings if it boots in UEFI mode or legacy BIOS.13:44
mmmmmmmmmmIts currently booting in legacy mode13:44
mmmmmmmmmmI cant select vfat as the file system - should it just be fat32?13:45
mmmmmmmmmmThere is also no mount point that I can select thats /boot/rfi (Im doing it in GPT currently)13:46
diogenes_then, if you decide to install in legacy mode, make sure: 1) the HDD is MBR formatted and not GPT, 2) the SATA mode is AHCI, not some weird IDE 3) in legacy mode the recommended partitioning are: 1st partition=30 / 2nd partition=as much as you want /home 3rd partition=at least 4GB swap.13:46
mmmmmmmmmmAh, I'll make it MBR formatted. Should it be 30 GB for the root partition?13:47
diogenes_mmmmmmmmmm, for general use, 30 GB is more than enough.13:48
diogenes_for root /13:48
mmmmmmmmmmGreat, thank you. Let me try this13:48
mmmmmmmmmmSo the new partition table is MBR. I have root @ 29.3 GB, /, ext4. swap @ 4GB, no mount point, linuxswap and the final partition is just the rest mount @ home with ext4 as you suggested13:51
diogenes_looks good13:52
mmmmmmmmmmUnfortunately that just gave the same thing. Installation Failed Boost.Python error in job "unpackfs". Command '['mount'm '/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs','/tmp/tmp7mpovn8q/filesystem', '-t', 'squashfs','-o','loop']' returned non-zero exit status 32. None13:53
mmmmmmmmmmI can copy the traceback if you'd like13:53
diogenes_mmmmmmmmmm, that look more as the installation media is broken, how did you write the iso to the usb?13:55
mmmmmmmmmmUsing rufus. Im double checking the SATA mode right now though13:56
diogenes_mmmmmmmmmm, rufus is not that great when it comes about linux, try win32imagewriter13:56
mmmmmmmmmmSure I'll give that a spin13:56
mmmmmmmmmmI think? that its gotten further now. You might be right that Rufus could have been mangling the image.14:08
mmmmmmmmmm@diogenes_ thank you, it works now.14:11
diogenes_mmmmmmmmmm, you're welcome.14:11
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Anyone reported this yet? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=177314816:43
ubottubugzilla.redhat.com bug 1773148 in sudo "sudo: setrlimit(RLIMIT_CORE): Operation not permitted" [Unspecified,New]16:43
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I am getting this in my lxd container today.16:43
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> On focal tho.17:01
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [Anyone reported this yet? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1773148], @teward001 know something about this?17:08
ubottubugzilla.redhat.com bug 1773148 in sudo "sudo: setrlimit(RLIMIT_CORE): Operation not permitted" [Unspecified,New]17:08
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I am seeing it in my new container which I set up just now.17:08
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I haven't updated the system yet. I think there is an update for sudo in the container17:08
lubot<teward001> what's the version of sudo in your system17:10
lubot<teward001> s/system/container/17:10
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> 1.8.2917:10
lubot<teward001> 1.8.29-1ubuntu1 is the latest in Focal17:11
lubot<teward001> sooooo17:11
lubot<teward001> might be a bug, might be fixed, i need reproduction steps to test17:11
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> hmm. running the upgrade now17:11
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @teward001 [might be a bug, might be fixed, i need reproduction steps to test], I am doing `lxc exec some-ubuntu -- sudo --login --user ubuntu`  where some-ubuntu is name of container17:12
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> to get to bash of user ubuntu in the container17:12
lubot<teward001> *loads up container*17:13
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> same story after the upgrade17:13
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [I am doing lxc exec some-ubuntu -- sudo --login --user ubuntu  where some-ubuntu …], how do you usually get into the default user of your container? you don't use this?17:14
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> don't tell me you use only root17:14
lubot<teward001> I use `lxc shell [container]` which drops me to a root propmt, then i `su - [user]`17:14
lubot<teward001> depending on the container and its setup ;)17:14
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> hmm. i see17:14
lubot<teward001> but i can confirm the issue being observed17:14
lubot<teward001> but i just tested from the root shell17:14
lubot<teward001> and it errors out17:14
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> yay!17:15
lubot<teward001> but it then logs me in17:15
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> it does17:15
lubot<teward001> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bxvXTvp7M4/17:15
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> i see some temporary fix on a fedora forum but don't want to try. need apermanent fix17:15
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> you might be interested?17:16
lubot<teward001> sudo's not something I touch but i'll file an Ubuntu bug with this issue17:17
lubot<teward001> since i was able to replicate inside the container17:17
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @teward001 [sudo's not something I touch but i'll file an Ubuntu bug with this issue], send link after filing i will second it.17:17
lubot<teward001> what i'd like to do is test this in an actual VM too17:18
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> https://ask.fedoraproject.org/t/sudo-setrlimit-rlimit-core-operation-not-permitted/4223 … in case you want to try on a different container. ;)17:18
lubot<teward001> so i'll download a daily ISO later and VMify it to make sure it's not an LXD related bug17:18
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @teward001 [what i'd like to do is test this in an actual VM too], me too. how do we reproduce this on a vm? ssh into the vm from host?17:19
lubot<teward001> i was just going to do it from the VM itself :P17:20
lubot<teward001> because I use VMware and have the GUI on screen as such17:21
lubot<teward001> :P17:21
lubot<teward001> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/185703617:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1857036 in sudo (Ubuntu) "`sudo --login --user USERNAME` throws `setrlimit(RLIMIT_CORE): Operation not permitted` error when run inside a container." [Undecided,New]17:21
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @teward001 [https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/1857036], thanks!17:21
lubot<teward001> I'll dig deeper once at home - can't download an ISO on this network right now17:22
lubot<teward001> it'll overload the network xD17:22
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I too can't download any iso as long as I am at home. (next 15 days)17:22
lubot<teward001> i'll download later this evening17:24
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @teward001 whats "arstotzka" ?17:28
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> ah your hostname.17:29
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I thought some new lnux distro. :P17:29
lubot<teward001> @The_LoudSpeaker [@teward001 whats "arstotzka" ?], lol.  that's the hostname of my system17:53
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I saw17:53
lubot<teward001> at least it's not the hostname of my one DMZ honeypot server17:53
lubot<teward001> it's a hostname I can't share here ;)17:53
Tina96Brand new user here. Question?20:36
wxlyes, that is :)20:36
Tina96I installed lubuntu 18.04 on a Sony desktop that was running winxp20:37
wxla nice upgrade :)20:37
Tina96When it finished installing...I get a black screen and I have to enter commands?20:38
Tina96I have no idea what I am doing20:38
wxlso did you check the hashes of the ISO and compare them against the published hashes to ensure the download you have is without errors?20:38
wxl(btw that's not normal)20:38
* genii suspects GRUB prompt20:39
Tina96HA HA..what is that?20:39
wxlright20:39
wxlok20:39
wxl!hashes20:39
ubottuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for the md5sums of all downloadable Ubuntu releases20:39
Tina96yes GRUB prompt20:39
wxli guess you can also just run the "check disc for defects" at the boot prompt on the installation media.. but that won't tell you if you have a download problem or a copy problem20:39
Tina96I am finding that this new software requires a lot of work...lol20:40
wxlthis ultimately is something that would be required of any OS you're downloading from the internet, including windows 10 (which you can go grab an ISO of)20:40
geniiWhen the installer asks where to install GRUB, select the entire device ... for instance /dev/sda  and NOT specific partition where the files got copied to, like /dev/sda1 or so20:40
* genii runs off to answer the phone20:41
wxlgenii: of course, that presumes not just accepting the defaults, which most folks would do20:41
Tina96Okay...so I will check Md-whatever and come back...lol. genni? I did tell it to install to entire device20:41
wxlyeah so if the hashes check out, then run the check disc for defects20:42
wxlif that fails, you know you have a copy problem20:42
wxlso try copying the ISO again to the installation media20:42
wxlone other question20:42
wxlwhere did you get your ISO from?20:42
Tina96ok...wxl....uh....let me see if I still have the install website open...20:43
Tina96wxl? Here is where I got it...nope...not sure....i think and alternate from Harvard U?20:45
wxlweiiiiird20:46
wxlyou should get it from ubuntu.com, really20:46
wxlhere http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/18.04.3/release/20:46
Tina96IDK...I looked at some MANY...like I said....have no idea really...just curiosity20:47
wxlwell what i'm trying to get you to do is to verify that what you downloaded is actually lubuntu and not something masquerading as lubuntu or an incorrect download.. so it matters20:48
Tina96wxl? yes, yes....that is where I got it....but clicked on Alternate...18.04 i38620:49
Tina96This sony desktop is OLLLLDDDD...old hardware20:49
wxlok, that's fine. so just check your hashes. if it doesn't work out, make sure to get a new download and keep trying until you get it right. you could also use bit torrent (which should automatically error check)20:50
Tina96ok...will do...be back later! thank you so much!20:50
wxlno problem. be well!20:50
Tina96wxl? I just ran the installation again and I got a beautiful desktop! I must have made some wrong choices the first time around. Thank you for help. I am going to check this program out! Happy Holidays everyone!21:26
wxlTina96: glad it all worked out :) let us know if you need more help21:26
Tina96most definitely!21:27
* genii slides wxl a tin of holiday cookies21:33
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Tina96wxl?22:21
wxlyes........?22:21
Tina96Can you suggest a good archive extractor?22:21
wxlfor what sort of archive?22:21
Tina96DOS/Windows executible22:22
wxloh boy22:22
wxlwhy on earth do you want that? XD22:22
Tina96I have a bunch of xp games that are archived.22:23
wxlbut but but how are you going to play them?22:23
Tina96I backed them up 10 years ago...lol22:23
Tina96won't they play in lubuntu?22:23
wxlnope22:23
wxljust like apple games won't play in xp22:23
Tina96ohhhh...well crapola22:23
wxlyou can blame windows for that one22:24
Tina96yeppers22:24
Tina96dag nab it22:24
wxlthere are some ways you could get around it22:24
wxlbut it's not "easy" per se22:24
Tina96enlighten me?22:24
Tina96lol.22:24
wxlthere's a thing called a virtual machine. basically, you run a virtual operating system within your operating system. like windows would be an application you're running in linux.22:25
wxlthat would, unfortunately, require installation media, so that might be a problem.22:25
Tina96ohhhh....nice....ugh22:25
wxlit would also require a fair amount of overhead, so given your old computer, that's probably also a concern.22:25
wxland then there's a thing called wine22:25
wxl!wine22:25
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu22:25
Tina96yeah...i need a glass22:26
wxlit's not really a full virtual machine, but it's something kind of like it22:26
wxla lot of gamers use it22:26
Tina96these are very small games22:26
wxlit can be really funky to work with, but if the application is well used and documented, then you just follow the instructions and you'll be fine22:26
Tina96ok...i will go find me some WINE22:27
Tina96wish me luck22:27
wxlok here's a good example https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=137022:29
wxlfrom 2002. "platinum rated" which means it works exceptionally well22:29
wxlthe unarchiver (this is a command line program "unar") is what i use for archives. it pretty much does everything. i know it can do self extracting exe's. https://macpaw.com/the-unarchiver22:31
Tina96cool22:37
wxloh and since you're new to linux, it's got a package manager22:37
wxlkind of like the software store newer windows comes with22:37
wxlso you don't have to go download stuff from websites. just open up synaptic and search for what you want and there you go22:38
Tina96what is synaptic22:38
wxl!synaptic22:38
ubottuSynaptic is a graphical utility which can install and remove software packages (.deb). For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto22:38
Tina96wow...feeling overwhelmed...i may go back to windows...or find me some real wine22:39
Tina96is there anyway to get around NOT having to sign in when i boot the system.22:49
wxlyep i got to remember how though22:49
wxlhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/51086/how-do-i-enable-auto-login-in-lightdm22:51
Tina96(y)22:52
Tina96Like those other people on that page having the same problem....it says I can't change it23:00
wxlhttps://askubuntu.com/a/111345223:02
wxlthat answer23:02
Tina96# /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf23:03
Tina96Should that say "SetDefaults"?23:04
wxlnno23:04
wxlSeat23:04
Tina96ok...just checking before i try23:04

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