[09:24] <jirido_> Hi. I just installed on an old acer one with atom 270n cpu. As i like compiz I installed fusion-icon but gets segemetation faults straight out of the box.. compiz --replace works ok thou..
[09:26] <jirido_> Is this a common problem? Should i maybe ask in #ubuntu even thou Im on lubuntu?
[09:41] <jirido_> jirido@jirido-smottin:~$ fusion-icon -vv
[09:41] <jirido_>  * Detected Session: Lubuntu
[09:41] <jirido_>  * Searching for installed applications...
[09:41] <jirido_>  -- /usr/bin/compiz
[09:41] <jirido_>  -- /usr/bin/openbox
[09:41] <jirido_>  -- /usr/bin/gtk-window-decorator
[09:42] <jirido_> hm can i send still?
[09:42] <jirido_> yeah thanks red queen
[09:57] <jirido_> well as i posted earlier i cant get fusion icon to work.. is there some package i should ad maybe?
[10:08] <guiverc> jirido_, you installed what?  I don't see mention of a release of Lubuntu, and if you want to paste multiple lines, please use pastebinit
[10:08] <guiverc> !pastebinit
[10:09] <guiverc> and you're most welcome to ask in #ubuntu; Lubuntu is an official flavor so you'll be ontopic in #ubuntu (ask in only one room at a time though; give people a chance to reply otherwise people in both rooms will get annoyed & everyone tends to go quiet on you)
[13:33] <mmmmmmmmmm> Is there a
 yes, there is a, as well as b.
[13:34] <mmmmmmmmmm> Is there any recommended partition setup for 19? I'm having trouble with mine and Im not sure if Im doing it correctly as my installation is failing due to the dreaded "Boost.Python error in job "unpackfs" error
[13:38] <mmmmmmmmmm> My partition setup is: /boot: 1 GB, / 14gb, Swap: 2 GB, /var: 7GB, /home: rest (95.7) gb.
 sorry I can't help, I always use default, not much partitioning.
[13:41] <diogenes_> mmmmmmmmmm, if you do UEFI then you gonna need another 300 MB vfat partition, mountpoin /boot/rfi
[13:41] <diogenes_>  /boot/efi*
[13:41] <mmmmmmmmmm> Secure boot etc is disabled (and I dont plan on enabling it). Should i still add it?
[13:43] <diogenes_> mmmmmmmmmm, the fact that you disabled secure boot, doesn't mean that you disabled UEFI too.
[13:43] <mmmmmmmmmm> True
[13:44] <diogenes_> check with the BIOS settings if it boots in UEFI mode or legacy BIOS.
[13:44] <mmmmmmmmmm> Its currently booting in legacy mode
[13:45] <mmmmmmmmmm> I cant select vfat as the file system - should it just be fat32?
[13:46] <mmmmmmmmmm> There is also no mount point that I can select thats /boot/rfi (Im doing it in GPT currently)
[13:46] <diogenes_> then, if you decide to install in legacy mode, make sure: 1) the HDD is MBR formatted and not GPT, 2) the SATA mode is AHCI, not some weird IDE 3) in legacy mode the recommended partitioning are: 1st partition=30 / 2nd partition=as much as you want /home 3rd partition=at least 4GB swap.
[13:47] <mmmmmmmmmm> Ah, I'll make it MBR formatted. Should it be 30 GB for the root partition?
[13:48] <diogenes_> mmmmmmmmmm, for general use, 30 GB is more than enough.
[13:48] <diogenes_> for root /
[13:48] <mmmmmmmmmm> Great, thank you. Let me try this
[13:51] <mmmmmmmmmm> So the new partition table is MBR. I have root @ 29.3 GB, /, ext4. swap @ 4GB, no mount point, linuxswap and the final partition is just the rest mount @ home with ext4 as you suggested
[13:52] <diogenes_> looks good
[13:53] <mmmmmmmmmm> Unfortunately that just gave the same thing. Installation Failed Boost.Python error in job "unpackfs". Command '['mount'm '/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs','/tmp/tmp7mpovn8q/filesystem', '-t', 'squashfs','-o','loop']' returned non-zero exit status 32. None
[13:53] <mmmmmmmmmm> I can copy the traceback if you'd like
[13:55] <diogenes_> mmmmmmmmmm, that look more as the installation media is broken, how did you write the iso to the usb?
[13:56] <mmmmmmmmmm> Using rufus. Im double checking the SATA mode right now though
[13:56] <diogenes_> mmmmmmmmmm, rufus is not that great when it comes about linux, try win32imagewriter
[13:56] <mmmmmmmmmm> Sure I'll give that a spin
[14:08] <mmmmmmmmmm> I think? that its gotten further now. You might be right that Rufus could have been mangling the image.
[14:11] <mmmmmmmmmm> @diogenes_ thank you, it works now.
[14:11] <diogenes_> mmmmmmmmmm, you're welcome.
 Anyone reported this yet? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1773148
 I am getting this in my lxd container today.
 On focal tho.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Anyone reported this yet? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1773148], @teward001 know something about this?
 I am seeing it in my new container which I set up just now.
 I haven't updated the system yet. I think there is an update for sudo in the container
 what's the version of sudo in your system
 s/system/container/
 1.8.29
 1.8.29-1ubuntu1 is the latest in Focal
 sooooo
 might be a bug, might be fixed, i need reproduction steps to test
 hmm. running the upgrade now
 @teward001 [might be a bug, might be fixed, i need reproduction steps to test], I am doing `lxc exec some-ubuntu -- sudo --login --user ubuntu`  where some-ubuntu is name of container
 to get to bash of user ubuntu in the container
 *loads up container*
 same story after the upgrade
 @The_LoudSpeaker [I am doing lxc exec some-ubuntu -- sudo --login --user ubuntu  where some-ubuntu …], how do you usually get into the default user of your container? you don't use this?
 don't tell me you use only root
 I use `lxc shell [container]` which drops me to a root propmt, then i `su - [user]`
 depending on the container and its setup ;)
 hmm. i see
 but i can confirm the issue being observed
 but i just tested from the root shell
 and it errors out
 yay!
 but it then logs me in
 it does
 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bxvXTvp7M4/
 i see some temporary fix on a fedora forum but don't want to try. need apermanent fix
 you might be interested?
 sudo's not something I touch but i'll file an Ubuntu bug with this issue
 since i was able to replicate inside the container
 @teward001 [sudo's not something I touch but i'll file an Ubuntu bug with this issue], send link after filing i will second it.
 what i'd like to do is test this in an actual VM too
 https://ask.fedoraproject.org/t/sudo-setrlimit-rlimit-core-operation-not-permitted/4223 … in case you want to try on a different container. ;)
 so i'll download a daily ISO later and VMify it to make sure it's not an LXD related bug
 @teward001 [what i'd like to do is test this in an actual VM too], me too. how do we reproduce this on a vm? ssh into the vm from host?
 i was just going to do it from the VM itself :P
 because I use VMware and have the GUI on screen as such
 :P
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/1857036
 @teward001 [https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/1857036], thanks!
 I'll dig deeper once at home - can't download an ISO on this network right now
 it'll overload the network xD
 I too can't download any iso as long as I am at home. (next 15 days)
 i'll download later this evening
 @teward001 whats "arstotzka" ?
 ah your hostname.
 I thought some new lnux distro. :P
 @The_LoudSpeaker [@teward001 whats "arstotzka" ?], lol.  that's the hostname of my system
 I saw
 at least it's not the hostname of my one DMZ honeypot server
 it's a hostname I can't share here ;)
[20:36] <Tina96> Brand new user here. Question?
[20:36] <wxl> yes, that is :)
[20:37] <Tina96> I installed lubuntu 18.04 on a Sony desktop that was running winxp
[20:37] <wxl> a nice upgrade :)
[20:38] <Tina96> When it finished installing...I get a black screen and I have to enter commands?
[20:38] <Tina96> I have no idea what I am doing
[20:38] <wxl> so did you check the hashes of the ISO and compare them against the published hashes to ensure the download you have is without errors?
[20:38] <wxl> (btw that's not normal)
[20:39]  * genii suspects GRUB prompt
[20:39] <Tina96> HA HA..what is that?
[20:39] <wxl> right
[20:39] <wxl> ok
[20:39] <wxl> !hashes
[20:39] <Tina96> yes GRUB prompt
[20:39] <wxl> i guess you can also just run the "check disc for defects" at the boot prompt on the installation media.. but that won't tell you if you have a download problem or a copy problem
[20:40] <Tina96> I am finding that this new software requires a lot of work...lol
[20:40] <wxl> this ultimately is something that would be required of any OS you're downloading from the internet, including windows 10 (which you can go grab an ISO of)
[20:40] <genii> When the installer asks where to install GRUB, select the entire device ... for instance /dev/sda  and NOT specific partition where the files got copied to, like /dev/sda1 or so
[20:41]  * genii runs off to answer the phone
[20:41] <wxl> genii: of course, that presumes not just accepting the defaults, which most folks would do
[20:41] <Tina96> Okay...so I will check Md-whatever and come back...lol. genni? I did tell it to install to entire device
[20:42] <wxl> yeah so if the hashes check out, then run the check disc for defects
[20:42] <wxl> if that fails, you know you have a copy problem
[20:42] <wxl> so try copying the ISO again to the installation media
[20:42] <wxl> one other question
[20:42] <wxl> where did you get your ISO from?
[20:43] <Tina96> ok...wxl....uh....let me see if I still have the install website open...
[20:45] <Tina96> wxl? Here is where I got it...nope...not sure....i think and alternate from Harvard U?
[20:46] <wxl> weiiiiird
[20:46] <wxl> you should get it from ubuntu.com, really
[20:46] <wxl> here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/18.04.3/release/
[20:47] <Tina96> IDK...I looked at some MANY...like I said....have no idea really...just curiosity
[20:48] <wxl> well what i'm trying to get you to do is to verify that what you downloaded is actually lubuntu and not something masquerading as lubuntu or an incorrect download.. so it matters
[20:49] <Tina96> wxl? yes, yes....that is where I got it....but clicked on Alternate...18.04 i386
[20:49] <Tina96> This sony desktop is OLLLLDDDD...old hardware
[20:50] <wxl> ok, that's fine. so just check your hashes. if it doesn't work out, make sure to get a new download and keep trying until you get it right. you could also use bit torrent (which should automatically error check)
[20:50] <Tina96> ok...will do...be back later! thank you so much!
[20:50] <wxl> no problem. be well!
[21:26] <Tina96> wxl? I just ran the installation again and I got a beautiful desktop! I must have made some wrong choices the first time around. Thank you for help. I am going to check this program out! Happy Holidays everyone!
[21:26] <wxl> Tina96: glad it all worked out :) let us know if you need more help
[21:27] <Tina96> most definitely!
[21:33]  * genii slides wxl a tin of holiday cookies
[22:21] <Tina96> wxl?
[22:21] <wxl> yes........?
[22:21] <Tina96> Can you suggest a good archive extractor?
[22:21] <wxl> for what sort of archive?
[22:22] <Tina96> DOS/Windows executible
[22:22] <wxl> oh boy
[22:22] <wxl> why on earth do you want that? XD
[22:23] <Tina96> I have a bunch of xp games that are archived.
[22:23] <wxl> but but but how are you going to play them?
[22:23] <Tina96> I backed them up 10 years ago...lol
[22:23] <Tina96> won't they play in lubuntu?
[22:23] <wxl> nope
[22:23] <wxl> just like apple games won't play in xp
[22:23] <Tina96> ohhhh...well crapola
[22:24] <wxl> you can blame windows for that one
[22:24] <Tina96> yeppers
[22:24] <Tina96> dag nab it
[22:24] <wxl> there are some ways you could get around it
[22:24] <wxl> but it's not "easy" per se
[22:24] <Tina96> enlighten me?
[22:24] <Tina96> lol.
[22:25] <wxl> there's a thing called a virtual machine. basically, you run a virtual operating system within your operating system. like windows would be an application you're running in linux.
[22:25] <wxl> that would, unfortunately, require installation media, so that might be a problem.
[22:25] <Tina96> ohhhh....nice....ugh
[22:25] <wxl> it would also require a fair amount of overhead, so given your old computer, that's probably also a concern.
[22:25] <wxl> and then there's a thing called wine
[22:25] <wxl> !wine
[22:26] <Tina96> yeah...i need a glass
[22:26] <wxl> it's not really a full virtual machine, but it's something kind of like it
[22:26] <wxl> a lot of gamers use it
[22:26] <Tina96> these are very small games
[22:26] <wxl> it can be really funky to work with, but if the application is well used and documented, then you just follow the instructions and you'll be fine
[22:27] <Tina96> ok...i will go find me some WINE
[22:27] <Tina96> wish me luck
[22:29] <wxl> ok here's a good example https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1370
[22:29] <wxl> from 2002. "platinum rated" which means it works exceptionally well
[22:31] <wxl> the unarchiver (this is a command line program "unar") is what i use for archives. it pretty much does everything. i know it can do self extracting exe's. https://macpaw.com/the-unarchiver
[22:37] <Tina96> cool
[22:37] <wxl> oh and since you're new to linux, it's got a package manager
[22:37] <wxl> kind of like the software store newer windows comes with
[22:38] <wxl> so you don't have to go download stuff from websites. just open up synaptic and search for what you want and there you go
[22:38] <Tina96> what is synaptic
[22:38] <wxl> !synaptic
[22:39] <Tina96> wow...feeling overwhelmed...i may go back to windows...or find me some real wine
[22:49] <Tina96> is there anyway to get around NOT having to sign in when i boot the system.
[22:49] <wxl> yep i got to remember how though
[22:51] <wxl> https://askubuntu.com/questions/51086/how-do-i-enable-auto-login-in-lightdm
[22:52] <Tina96> (y)
[23:00] <Tina96> Like those other people on that page having the same problem....it says I can't change it
[23:02] <wxl> https://askubuntu.com/a/1113452
[23:02] <wxl> that answer
[23:03] <Tina96> # /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[23:04] <Tina96> Should that say "SetDefaults"?
[23:04] <wxl> nno
[23:04] <wxl> Seat
[23:04] <Tina96> ok...just checking before i try