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CrazyLikeAFoxIs there a procedure to calibrate a touch screen in xubuntu 18.04?00:01
CrazyLikeAFoxtrying it on a cf-18 toughbook, and the stylus is only correct at a single point, it scale distance from that point incorrectly00:02
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HayashiEsmeAh hello00:51
HayashiEsmeTest00:52
rickybobhey fren00:52
rickybobu made it00:52
HayashiEsmeHiya00:52
HayashiEsmeIf it'll let me change the capitalization on my dang username00:52
HayashiEsmeOkay we're yeeting this IRC client00:52
KhakiIbex28Whats yeeting?00:52
HayashiEsmeOops ha ha00:52
HayashiEsmeYeeting means throwing, it originates from a silly meme00:53
rickybobHayashiEsme: just do /nick hayashi00:54
rickybobetc00:54
rickybobre reg00:54
rickybobmaybe not00:54
HayashiEsmeOh if only that fixed it ha, turns out it the client kept wanting to replace my username with my ubuntu username on login00:55
rickybobdamnit where tf is this py00:55
HayashiEsmeOr least I think anyway, I haven't been on IRC since I was a little fetus lmfao00:55
rickybobditto00:56
rickybobbeen decades, used to dfo vb2 on aol00:56
rickybobnow im python irc00:56
rickyboblol00:56
HayashiEsmedaaaamn00:56
HayashiEsmeI'll look Python IRC up00:56
rickybobback in the ole gold rush days of spam00:56
HayashiEsmegotta send them chain mail lmfao00:57
hggdhfolks, can we please keep on-topic?00:57
rickybobhaha free email servers running on cable00:57
rickybobsupa fast00:57
rickybobsorry im newwww00:57
rickybobwhats topic00:57
ducasse!topic00:57
ubottuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic00:57
hggdhrickybob: type /topic to find out all about this channel00:58
rickybobk00:58
mustmodifyFKHell: Nope, I'm trying to get my personal blog back up and ... long story.00:58
HayashiEsmeSorry thanks for letting me know about the topic rule00:58
mustmodifyjust getting back, sorry for the delay.00:58
KhakiIbex28Give the blog's URLm00:59
KhakiIbex28*URL00:59
mustmodifyit's down right now.00:59
KhakiIbex28What happened?01:00
mustmodifyWell, actually, it was. It's back up but something's wrong with the CSS so it's just HTML.01:00
mustmodifyWell, sometime in 2015ish something broke. I had work and just ... didn't 'take the time to fix it.01:00
mustmodifySo initially I just couldn't login so I couldn't add content. And then apparently something else broke and it stopped working altogether01:00
KhakiIbex28How was your blog's traffic?01:00
mustmodifyblog.mustmodify.com01:00
mustmodifyDunno, I didn't care. I was mostly keeping my software notes there.01:01
KhakiIbex28Well, get the blog back up online.01:01
mustmodifyMore lab notes as I wrote software, kind of a place to think on paper01:01
mustmodifyRight.01:02
mustmodifySo I posted a question a while ago and still don't know quite how to do it.01:03
KhakiIbex28https://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.mustmodify.com%2F States that you have an CSS01:03
mustmodifyI have all the posts each in a file.01:03
mustmodifyI need to change the 3rd through nth line that contains just "---" to "```"01:03
mustmodifyI know how to do it if it's EVERY instance01:04
mustmodifybut don't know how to do the 3rd..nth instance for each file01:04
mustmodifyany suggestions of a tool that might do that?01:04
HayashiEsmeI can't access the css sheet that the site is linked to01:05
HayashiEsmeOh whoops you have a solution01:06
mustmodifyright. I have the content in files.01:06
mustmodifyAnd I can import it to a new site.01:06
mustmodifyBut I need to make changes to the 102 files.01:06
mustmodifyAnd I can do it manually but as a dev... that's kinda sad. :|01:06
HayashiEsmeWill a text editor not replace it for you?01:07
HayashiEsmeI know VSCode would do it, it'll preview everything before you replace it oo01:07
mustmodifyRead above. There's a catch.01:07
mustmodifyI need to replace the 3rd through last instance of ---, not the first two, IN EACH FILE.01:08
HayashiEsmeRight I need to sleep my bad01:08
mustmodifySo that's harder.01:08
HayashiEsmeYeah it can be a little hard to get that done, regex specifically discourages using it to replace code01:09
mustmodifyI'll figure it out.01:09
mustmodifyI'm thinking about writing a ruby script to do it.01:10
mustmodifyThat wouldn't be too hard.01:10
HayashiEsmeI guess you'll have to figure out if finding a tool is worth the time taken to manually do it yourself01:10
HayashiEsmeNot familiar with Ruby but that makes sense01:10
mustmodifyit's 102 files so that seems like it'd take forever!!! :)01:11
mustmodifyOr I'm just lazy.01:11
HayashiEsmeWell or you'll end up being bored out of your mind before you get it done I guess ha01:11
HayashiEsmeYeah 102 files worth of every third lines would be frustrating, F01:12
cgihow do i transfer videos/photos from my pixel 3 to ubuntu ? I currently dont see anything when i connect the usb c?01:17
cgiipad mounts with dcim folder without problems01:19
xieyiany idea on how to use xpra on ubuntu 19.10 properly01:57
anonhow come i added my user to sudo group but i still get pemission denied unless I type sudo blah command?02:05
anonam I misunderstanding something about how permissions work in linux02:05
mustmodifysudo group means you _can_ type sudo02:05
mustmodifysudo doesn't give you the authority. It gives you the authority to use root, which has the authority.02:06
mustmodifytype `whoami`02:06
mustmodifythen type `sudo whoami`02:06
anonmustmodify, what if i want to not have to type sudo each time but dont want to use an account called root?02:06
mustmodifyOK. So you want an account just like root but with another name?02:07
EriC^^anon: you can get a shell "sudo -i"02:07
EriC^^you'd be using the account 'root' kind of though02:07
mustmodifyJust FYI, that's typically frowned upon because you have so much power you could easily cause problems for yourself.02:08
mustmodifybut you can certainly do it.02:08
anonmustmodify, yes exactly02:08
anoni mean i understand i could cause problems for myself but02:08
anonits better than having an account explicitly called root and using that no?02:08
mustmodifyit's better to use your own account and use sudo when you need to do something. So at least you're typing sudo and saying "MUST NOT CAUSE PROBLEMS!!!"02:09
pragmaticenigmamustmodify, let's try to focus on the question, and less about personal opinions.02:09
pragmaticenigmaanon, it is frowned upon, but there is no method by which you can have an account with root priveleges other than root itself.02:10
anono ok thanks pragmaticenigma02:11
anonguess I was just curious02:12
pragmaticenigmaanon, it is possible to get root like session after authentication. Where you would issue the command "sudo -i" which lets you into a "root" level shell where you are free to issue commands and run applications. If you decide you would prefer that, that is the closest, and safest way to achieve your goal. Your machine remains secure against outside forces, and only your user with sudo priveleges can access a "root" shell02:14
qwertuttyty?02:15
tomreyn!02:15
pragmaticenigmaanon, the next closest is to setup sudo to not require a password. But that does lower the threshold for keeping your machine secure.02:15
anongot it02:18
anoninteresting stuff02:18
anoncan I ask how you acquired that level of knowledge?02:18
styledashdont use sudo without password02:18
anonor is this just common knowledge02:18
anoni mean ive been using linux for awhile but i didnt know this02:19
pragmaticenigmaanon, As a person that has been using linux and other unix type systems. I will say in the last few years I have found the need to use sudo less and less. The entire community is working toward reducing the need for root level permissions.02:19
pragmaticenigmaanon, I've aquired the knowledge through time, and lots of trial and error02:20
styledashyou should just get in the habit of using "sudo COMMAND" when you need to run something as "root"02:20
styledashits also a good check so you know which commands are being run as root and everything else is not02:21
pragmaticenigmastyledash, we've already covered that portion. let's not continue to repeat ourselves02:21
styledashrepetition is the path to understanding02:22
qwertuttytyusb flash with exfat. I removed exfat-fuse and usb flash can be mounted and the drives show the flash drive has a file system exfat. Kernel 5.4. Does the 5.4 kernel already have an exfat driver? 19.10 U-Mate 19.10 U-Mate02:24
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qwertuttytyusb flash with exfat. I removed exfat-fuse and usb flash can be mounted and the disks show the flash drive has a file system exfat. Kernel 5.4. Does the 5.4 kernel already have an exfat driver? 19.10 U-Mate 19.10 U-Mate02:25
pragmaticenigma!patience | qwertuttyty02:25
ubottuqwertuttyty: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/02:25
tomreynlinux 5.4 is not available on any ubuntu release supported here, i think.02:26
tomreyn19.10 comes with 5.302:26
tomreynwhich kernel are oyu using, qwertuttyty02:26
qwertuttytyyou have 5.3 i have 5.402:26
qwertuttyty5.4.002:27
tomreynhow did you install it?02:27
qwertuttytyubuntu kerenel 5.4.002:27
pragmaticenigmaqwertuttyty, This channel only supports the released kernels that are available in the package repository. If you have installed another kernel from source or other repository, you will need to seek out other support channels02:28
pragmaticenigmaqwertuttyty, what that means is that there is no documentation in the official ubuntu resources for the volunteers to utilize to answer your question. You might have better luck asking in ##linux or a kernel related channel.02:29
qwertuttytyok02:33
pragmaticenigmaqwertuttyty, on a more generic level, the ability for your computer to identify a filesystem has nothing to do with a driver. Every file system has a "signature" to identify itself. That signature is part of a look up table that is independent of any drivers.02:36
qwertuttyty99% in 5.4 exfat driver have. i dont know. Kernel 5.4.0 - ubuntu. I deleted exfat-fuse and see file system exfat on usb flash02:39
pragmaticenigmaqwertuttyty, perhaps this will help explain: https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/24425602:42
BrknManquick question about ipsec02:50
BrknManfor some reason, conn sections in /etc/ipsec.conf don't... quite function the way one would expect, the only the first ever gets defined, additional conn sections are ignored02:50
BrknMananyone know why this might be?02:51
pragmaticenigmaBrknMan, it might be because it is too generic and take precedence over the other definitions?02:56
pragmaticenigmaBrknMan, From the documentation, it also appears both sides have to mutually come to an agreement. Perhaps since that is the first in both, that is what they choose to use?02:57
BrknManpragmaticenigma: both sides do, but that should be irrespective of the configuration, where each conn is named with a unique ID, I can have 'conn one' and futher down 'conn two', if I `ipsec up conn two` it will say there is no conn named conn two (no other connections are up at that time)03:04
BrknManpragmaticenigma: if I comment out 'conn one' completely, conn two works just fine03:04
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CrazyLikeAFoxOh, I got the usb drive cradle to work, and got the old drive migrated in- sudo dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sda (it took a bit over 2 hours to push 60gb over usb 2.0)03:11
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qwertuttytyhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K2f4cYj6Kt/03:31
bipulHi, just asking, is it possible to install vcli on Ubuntu OS, to connecting vmware esxi 6.0 remotely?03:39
swift110hey04:05
blueingressHi, I run a ubuntu 19.10 server and find that the CTRL+left CTRL+right not working on console ttys. so I make it work again via https://pastebin.com/Xhzf7Cmn, but how can I make it work permannet after reboot?04:13
tomreynblueingress: sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration04:16
blueingressusing sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration will change your keyboardlayout just for this session.04:19
blueingressmaybe some setting in file /etc/default/keyboard ?04:20
tomreynactually     sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration     will set your keyboard layout not just for the current session. unless oyu have something in place that overwrites it.04:21
swift110goodness04:22
tomreyn /etc/default/keyboard is exactly managed by keyboard-configuration04:23
tomreynsee /usr/share/doc/keyboard-configuration/README.Debian for more details04:24
blueingressok, Thanks a lot, I am reading.04:25
Mr_CyclopsHello. I  have a few machines running Ubuntu 18.04.3 server, need to put them into a cluster so that I can use the cluster for some jobs I wish to run.04:51
Mr_CyclopsNeed to know which software shall I use and any configuration guidelines? thanks04:51
tomreynwhat kind of a cluster?04:54
Mr_CyclopsWell, I have some scripts that require computer power (shell scripts), and I was wondering if I could use a shared storage amongst the machines, and utilize the CPU + RAM of all machines to run the script faster04:55
aberrantdepends on the jobs you want to run. Are they parallelizable?04:55
Mr_CyclopsThe script doesn't support running threads in parallel04:56
aberrantI'm not there yet :) The work that needs to be done - can it be done in parallel?04:56
aberrantsome work can't.04:56
Mr_CyclopsI'm sorry, I didn't get you. The script analyzes files from a bunch of input directories, and saves the output files into an output dir. I wrote the script myself04:58
Mr_Cyclopsnot getting the "Can be done in parallel thing?"04:58
aberrantthe easiest way, I guess, is to share a common filesystem (using NFS, say) and split the input up into chunks, and assign each chunk to one server.04:58
Mr_Cyclopsaberrant, that's what I've been doing, but it's all manual work,04:58
EriC^^write a script that does just that04:58
aberrantwell, some work is not parallelizable. Things like, I dunno, cipher block chaining, for example, where the output of one thing depends on the input of the previous thing.04:58
aberrantif you're doing it manually then you can probably automate it04:59
aberrantwhat EriC^^ said :)04:59
Mr_Cyclopsaberrant, oh nothing like that, its a basic script, just trying to make it utilize all machines for one single job (if possible). The Job Scheduler/Executioner should do/manage the splitting of data etc. in chunks etc....04:59
aberrantotherwise you're looking at rewriting your scripts and at that point you might as well do something with a real parallel scheduler.05:00
tomreyneither way, this sounds like a programming question.05:00
Mr_Cyclopsaberrant, :) I do like the idea though, script to run the script ("._.")05:00
Mr_Cyclopstomreyn, yes it does :)05:00
aberrantyou should absolutely use a script to run the script05:00
aberrantI wonder if gnu parallel can help here.05:01
aberrantI'll bet it can05:01
tomreynbetter ask on the channel of the scripting language you're intending to parallize.05:02
Mr_Cyclopshttps://www.gnu.org/software/parallel/ ... hmm at first glance, does look like the thing I'm looking for05:02
aberrantyup, that's it05:02
Mr_Cyclopsneed to dig it .... thanks aberrant05:02
aberrantsure. good luck05:02
aberrantit's the swiss army knife of parallel scripting05:02
Mr_Cyclopstomreyn, thanks, I guess. I just thought some ubuntu package/suite was available05:02
Mr_Cyclopsthanks all :)05:02
aberrantapt install parallel :)05:02
Mr_Cyclopsappreciate your help05:03
aberrantmight be gnu-parallel, but you get the idea :)05:03
Mr_CyclopsI do :)05:03
aberrantMr_Cyclops: also this might help05:04
aberrantathost05:04
aberrant#!/bin/sh05:04
aberranthost=$(basename $0 | sed "s/^\@//g")05:04
aberrantif [ $# -eq 0 ]; then ssh -q $host05:04
aberrantelse echo "running $* on $host" ssh -q $host -t "$SHELL -i -c \"$*\""05:04
aberrantman05:05
aberrantthat sucked.05:05
aberrantok, whatever. It's a nice script that when you symlink `@hostname` to it, you can just type `@hostname <cmd>` and it'll execute <cmd> on that host.05:06
aberrantI use it to do status checks on my cluster.05:06
aberrantanyway - g'night and good luck05:08
Mr_Cyclopslol aberrant thanks again :) I got the idea :D05:16
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JulianCienfuegos\leave06:12
Rich_MorinI'm using apt-get to install some packages on a VirtualBox VM running Ubuntu.  I'd like to examine the APT configuration files for some packages, but I'm not sure about the easiest way to find them.  Suggerstions?06:27
cluelesspersonSo it turns out for me that kswapd was using a ton of CPU in the background.07:31
cluelesspersonhowever07:39
cluelesspersonubuntu 19.10 keeps starting it up again07:39
sameepvickyWhen I screen share using Zoom or Skype, and try to type or write/draw using a pen on any app like xournal or inkscape, there is a significant lag. This lag is there when using ubuntu based distro like lubuntu 19.10 or KDE Neon 18.04 or Mint 19.2 Cinnamon. This lag is there on the Machine Lenovo AIO 330 using linux (not there in Windows). This lag is not there on my different machine (Dell Inspiron 1525) using linux or windows.07:57
guivercsameepvicky, please don't paste the same question in multiple rooms08:08
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sameepvickyok guiverc, shall I modify the question with only that linux distro name?08:13
al_nz1why does this command not link the current directory (vedirect01) to /etc/service/vedirect01 ? (instead it creates dir vedirect01 in the current dir?) https://pastebin.com/CXS3c8hu08:48
geirhaal_nz1: don't cross-post. The link probably already exists, so ln sees that the last argument is a directory, or a symlink pointing to an existing directory, so it creates the symlink inside that directory instead08:56
al_nz1geirha: thanks09:03
cluelesspersonI can't seem to find nightlight in ubuntu09:40
cluelesspersonit seems it's not installed?09:40
* cluelessperson checks09:40
cluelesspersonyeah, no package09:41
lotuspsychjecluelessperson: gnome has now baked in night lights09:52
lotuspsychjecluelessperson: unless youre not on gnome?09:52
lotuspsychjecluelessperson: systemsettings/devices/screens/tab nightlight09:55
cluelesspersonlotuspsychje, oh, it's moved to a different tab09:56
lotuspsychjeyeah09:57
cluelesspersonalright. :D09:57
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battery6hello everyone10:20
battery6anyone here with a good grasp of process priorities and can help me by answering some questions i have?10:20
lotuspsychje!ask | battery610:22
ubottubattery6: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:22
OerHeksbattery6, just ask your ubuntu question, wait and see10:22
battery6I see, i will lay it out then.10:22
battery6So first assume this, i have a script with an infinite loop for testing purposes. I start this script from my user without any sudo commands which should make it run in user space (maybe it does either way but thats not of importance). Then i want to check what priority the process have. I know of 3 ways to do this. Number one the command "ps -o pid,ni,pri *PID*" which generates a value of 19 as the priority. Number two, the10:27
battery6command "ps -l *PID*" which generates a value of 80 as the priority. Number 3 top/htop which shows me a value of 20 as the priority. Now for the question. Why do it get 3 different values when checking the same process in different ways?10:27
battery6I have also noticed that the command "ps -o pri_baz" gives a value of 120 which to me seems to be the real priority of the process from the kernel point of view. I just cant see the connection between all of this approaches and why they differ in result.10:30
Seveasbattery6: if you search for priority in the proc manpage you can find explanations for all three numbers10:32
battery6Thank you, i will read and return if i find anything still unclear to me.10:32
talinspello10:52
talini have an ancient laptop with "yakkety" in sources.list10:52
talinis it possible to upgrade it?10:52
gigirocktalin, i don't think so... I think is better for you save your data and reinstall...  what de are you running in your yakkety ?10:54
ducassetalin: theoretically yes, but i recommend a clean install10:54
talinit's an ancient laptop that i found, but i'd rather not reinstall if i don't have to10:55
talingigirock: hmm, it's some kind of mint-like DE10:55
talingigirock: can't remmeber what that's called10:55
ducasseit would probably be faster and easier10:55
talinmate, i think10:56
ducasse!eolupgrade | talin if you want to try, read this10:56
ubottutalin if you want to try, read this: End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades10:56
talinthank you, noble sir10:57
gigirocktalin, you can save your /home and then try to 'load' the user with the new system.... but we are talking about attempt....10:57
BadGuyAlexhelli10:58
BadGuyAlexsystemd-tmpfiles-clean10:58
BadGuyAlexhow to disable it permanently?10:58
BadGuyAlexit's inactive but still something removed my temporary files11:00
ryuoBadGuyAlex: they're "temporary files". did you expect them to last forever?11:04
BadGuyAlexno, but I can manage them myself. I do not need a babysitter.11:04
BadGuyAlexRemove on shutdown is fine.11:04
ryuoBadGuyAlex: systemctl disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean ?11:06
BadGuyAlexthanks11:08
BadGuyAlexI hope it will work.11:09
BadGuyAlexlast time my temp files disappeared despite systemd-tmpfiles-clean being inactive11:10
zamanfhi, I am on ubuntu and I want to create a partition to install windows 7 on dual boot11:46
zamanfis it possible?11:47
OerHeksbest way is install windows 7 first, thén ubuntu11:50
OerHeksif you have used your whole disk, you will need a live iso to change partitions11:51
gbellinozzamanf: Beware, Windows install blew away my linux partition without asking me once.11:51
OerHekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot11:51
OerHeksyes, it wants to be dominant, with its recovery partition at the end11:52
zamanfcan I resize my active partition?11:53
zamanfI have 1 SSD on this system11:53
OerHeksno, not your active ubuntu partitions, they need to be unmounted to do so11:54
OerHeksso, boot live iso and fix it that way, but i would start fresh,m windows first11:54
OerHeks.. and you would have some days left for windows 7 support, just saying11:55
zamanfI am not worrying about that, windows is not my concern11:56
zamanfjust need to run 1 application11:56
OerHeksput it in KVM/Virtualbox?11:56
zamanfit doesn't work - I have to use gpu passthrough, which I don't know how it's done in vmware11:57
I-T_broDoes Ubuntu have any plans for Facebooks online currency etc?11:57
OerHeksI-T_bro, maybe we accept them as donation, dunno11:58
I-T_broThats all?11:58
I-T_broNot get integration etc11:59
BluesKajHi folks12:06
PoleschIs there a command / tool to combine "ls -1a" and "du -h"?13:48
PoleschDo I get a list of all files in the current direct and their volume next to them?13:48
PoleschOr, size.13:48
e1z0hi13:51
e1z0is it possible that ubuntu 19.10 network configuration is altering something, because i've trying to run mini dlna without any success on the local network13:51
e1z0the announcement does not work at all13:51
mojospyhello13:57
mojospyhello everyone14:00
marcoagpintohey14:01
mojospycool14:05
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mcphailPolesch does ncdu do what you need?14:08
loxiehi everyone-do any of you know if woeusb can be installed onto ubuntu desktop 19.10, Im having a bit of trouble14:20
lotuspsychjeloxie: there's a woeusb snap if you want14:22
u__hi everyone-do any of you know if woeusb can be installed onto ubuntu desktop 19.10, Im having a bit of trouble. thanks in advance14:26
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akikloxoe: what error do you get?14:28
loxoewont be a moment will repeat14:29
loxoethank you very much akik but i just downloaded the latest version for my architecture and it is installed and runs-unlike there deb package installer i clicked on previously stoked its working14:32
loxoelol =)14:33
akiki pretend to understand that :)14:35
loxoe=)14:35
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bencc1is it possible to install chromium 78 instead of latest 79?15:24
lotuspsychjebencc1: its reccomended to install package versions that are meant for your ubuntu version15:26
lotuspsychjebencc1: wich version of ubuntu are you using currently?15:27
bencc1lotuspsychje: ubuntu 18.04 with chrome stable 7915:29
bencc1lotuspsychje: chrome 79 has a bug - the page sometimes freeze for several seconds15:29
bencc1I want to install chrome/chromium 78 and compare15:29
vvvvvv3213hey i can just technically delete every partition and it will delete ubuntu, windows 10, and the bootloader, correct?15:30
ducassevvvvvv3213: the bootloader only lives in a partition on uefi systems, on legacy systems it's at the start of the disk15:31
lotuspsychjebencc1: installing older packages could result into dependency issues for your system like ppa's etc15:32
vvvvvv3213hmm15:33
bencc1lotuspsychje: that's not what I asked. I asked how, not why I shouldn't do it15:33
bencc1thanks15:33
vvvvvv3213on Gparted it says that dev/sda2 is a "efi system partition" with a fat32 file system, is this where it could be located?15:34
ducasseyes15:35
vvvvvv3213ok cool15:35
aberrantshort of disabling apparmor, how do I get rid of these messages? aa-complain doesn't seem to work:15:44
aberrant[223979.812133] audit: type=1400 audit(1576828827.453:106): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_replace" info="same as current profile, skip15:44
aberrantping" profile="unconfined" name="libvirt-56eaafde-ee1a-4024-ad7c-d3816a6739a6" pid=13335 comm="apparmor_parser"15:44
mr_louEvery now and then I see a harddisk icon popup in my taskbar, and then it goes away again. It looks suspecious I think. Any explanation for this?16:16
lordcirthmr_lou, do you have a USB stick plugged in?16:16
mr_louNo16:17
mr_louI call dmesg when I see it, but I don't see anything there.16:18
mr_louOr well, I see this: [18762.911286] EXT4-fs (sdc): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)16:19
mr_louBut nothing is mounted on sdc.16:19
mr_louBut it sure does look like something was mounted shortly.16:19
mr_louhm... a lot of audits follows.16:22
mr_loufor snap.opera.com16:22
mr_louMaybe Snap makes a virtual drive?16:22
rapidwaveTrying to install python3-venv, but it's part of another package....which package?16:23
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leftyfbrapidwave: python3-venv is a package available from the universe repository16:30
lordcirthmr_lou, snap makes loop devices, iirc, but it shouldn't show up as a USB16:35
lordcirthmr_lou, what is sdc? Does it exist?16:36
akkMight be interesting to do lsblk when the device is there.16:37
alazare619Rey is a genetic clone of anakin, much like how x23 (laura kenny) is a clone of wolverine16:56
alazare619Rey is a genetic clone of anakin, much like how x23 (laura kenny) is a clone of wolverine16:56
alazare619Rey is a genetic clone of anakin, much like how x23 (laura kenny) is a clone of wolverine16:56
alazare619Rey is a genetic clone of anakin, much like how x23 (laura kenny) is a clone of wolverine16:56
alazare619Rey is a genetic clone of anakin, much like how x23 (laura kenny) is a clone of wolverine16:56
alazare619Rey is a genetic clone of anakin, much like how x23 (laura kenny) is a clone of wolverine16:56
alazare619Rey is a genetic clone of anakin, much like how x23 (laura kenny) is a clone of wolverine16:56
daxoook16:56
gerepCan someone help with a firmware error while running sudo apt dist-upgrade? https://pastebin.com/kzVH4hWC17:16
gerephttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KjgSmV2Wf7/17:16
Habbie'Operation not permitted'17:17
Habbiethat is weird17:17
Habbieanything in dmesg?17:17
gerepI was getting a similar error but complaining about the wifi firmware and disabling the wifi fixed it but I got that new error about `/lib/firmware/netronome/nic/nic_AMDA0081-0001_1x40.nffw.dpkg-new17:17
gerepHabbie, will check.17:18
rapidwaveHow do I get pip to use Python3?17:18
rapidwaveI already set alias for python to use python317:18
Habbierapidwave, let's take one step back - what are you trying to do with pip?17:18
rapidwaveI17:19
rapidwaveI'm trying to setup a virtual env using python3 and install django17:19
Habbieif the virtualenv is set up with python3, pip in the virtualenv will use python317:19
hitech95Hi, I have just moved from 18.04 to 19.04 and some devices don't work anymore. I'm tring to figure it out but on kernel 5 the verbose level is lower and dmesg is clean. Any idea on how to troubleshoot?17:19
gerepHabbie, nothing weird, some snap messages.17:19
rapidwaveAhh17:19
Habbieif the virtualenv is not set up with python3, you need to delete the virtualenv and make it again17:19
Habbiegerep, don't know then, sorry17:19
rapidwaveAlso, I need to install python3-venv, but while it's referred to by a package, the package doesn't exist17:19
akkrapidwave: You can verify by typing python --version to make sure it's python3.17:20
gerepHabbie, No problem =)17:20
Habbierapidwave, 'python3 -mvenv my-venv-dir' should be all you need17:20
akkrapidwave: also which pip will tell you the path to the pip it would run.17:20
Habbierapidwave, don't know about ubuntu, but in debian, python3-venv is an empty package that just depends on python317:20
Habbierapidwave, also, your alias from python to python3 could break things; i suggest removing it17:21
gerepHabbie, found the problem, I am using Sophos antivirus and disabling its on-demand scan fixed the problem. sudo /opt/sophos-av/bin/savdctl disable17:23
Habbiegerep, ah!17:23
leftyfbhitech95: Ubuntu 19.04 will be EOL next month.17:25
hitech95leftyfb I know thats why i moved from 18.04 to 19.04 and then my idea was to move to 19.10. But now i'm stuck. Looks like kernel 5.X is having some issues with my hardware and some modules don't print debug strings anymore. so I have no idea on where the problem is!17:27
leftyfbhitech95: what hardware is failing to function that is disallowing you to upgrade to 19.10?17:28
leftyfbhitech95: btw, 18.04 is supported until 202317:28
hitech95Touchpad, touchsreen.17:28
hitech95Yea I know that it is LTS I was hoping to upgrade to solve some hwdecoding issue I'm facing17:28
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leftyfbhitech95: do you have a keyboard?17:30
hitech95leftyfb, yea17:30
leftyfbhitech95: then a touchscreen is not necessary to upgrade from 19.04 to 19.1017:30
hitech95leftyfb yea but I wont that my hw works correctly not having half og the peripherals working. And so far i don't have tested other stuff. Hope audio works too.17:31
hitech95The problem looks related to the kernel 5.x.x17:32
leftyfbhitech95: getting anything working in 19.04 is completely pointless if the plan is to upgrade to 19.10 immediately (it should be )17:32
hitech95At this point my idea was to troubleshoot the problem of kernel 5.x.x and keep the LTS. (Also 18.04 with bakported kenel 5 have the same issues)17:33
leftyfbhitech95: ok, then re-install 18.0417:34
hitech95leftyfb, yup. But I still want to figure out where the problem is. Why if i set the kenel log level to 7 and I remove/load a module that is printing on module init nothing comes out to the dmesg?17:35
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OerHekshow do you tell it is related to kernel 5.x ?17:39
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hitech95OerHeks, I have installed kernel 5 some month ago on 18.04 and I was facing the same issues. I revert back to 4.17.x. Ubuntu 19 is shipped with kernel 5.X.17:42
OerHeksmaybe 5.2.x in 19.10 performs better .. dunno if i should ask what issues17:45
hitech95OerHeks, no its something that has broken somewhere between 4.17 and 5.0.0. Also IIO stuff is not loaded anymore.17:48
hitech95Is the kernel built with the DEBUG flag?17:53
Seveashitech95: grep CONFIG_DEBUG /boot/config-$(uname -r)18:02
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hitech95Seveas, yeas it has been built with teh debug verbose. No idea why some modules fails withou any error.18:10
FurretUberHi, I'm having a problem when booting Ubuntu with live media: it is mounting all swap partitions automatically, making dd operations fail. Is there a way to make the live media boot without enabling any swap partitions?19:24
lordcirthFurretUber, not sure, but you can just run 'swapoff -a'19:26
tomreynbooting with "noswap" may also work19:29
tomreyn!bootparam19:29
tomreyn!kernelparm19:30
ubottuTo add a one-time or permanent kernel boot parameter see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters19:30
FurretUbertomreyn: noswap didn't work. I'm reading the kernel’s command-line parameters page and I'm surprised there is seemingly no option to disable swap at boot level :/19:56
tomreynthis would be a distribution specific initrd option, not a kernel option, since i don't think the kernel would activate any swap it can grasp by itself.19:57
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HelveTuxHello20:21
HelveTuxHow can I make Ubuntu forget the password of an external disk that has been ejected?20:22
HelveTuxIf I insert the disk again, it can be mounted without any password. How can this behaviour changed please?20:22
ioriaHelveTux, have you tried 'gnome-keyring-daemon -r ' ?20:31
HelveTuxioria, Thanks for suggestiong. Isn't that going to frop all passwords and not only the one for the drive I just ejected?20:42
HelveTuxsuggesting*20:42
tomreynHelveTux: you should be able to use the "seahorse" application to manage cached keys (and passwords)21:00
HelveTuxtomreyn, Thank you, I've tried this but no pasword seems to be stored there in my case.21:06
tomreynHelveTux: maybe my info is outdated. i'm just looking at how it's done nowadays21:06
HelveTuxtomreyn, I found this information too and tried it. I installed seahorse and had a look into it but there are no passwords stored... looks like it's stored somewhere else now... By the way, I'm using ubuntu-mate, but as far as I understood, it uses gnome-keyring as standard ubuntu.21:08
tomreyni read that you can use the "secret-tool" software which is part of the "libsecret" package to access and manipulate password stores from a CLI. but it requires you to specify which schema you are looking in, and what you are looking for, so that's not too helpful.21:10
HelveTux... yes, I also saw that info and told me that maybe there was some more direct way to do the trick ;)21:11
HelveTuxin my mind, if I eject an encrypted disk, the passphrase should be "forgotten" automatically.21:11
HelveTuxfor sure can it be trickled from some option somewhere ;) for now could'nt find where...21:12
HelveTuxtomreyn, even unmounting the device from CLI and closing the device (cryptsetup close <device>) doesn't make the password cleared from cache. If I click on the icon in caja, the disk can be remounted without asking for a password.21:15
tomreynon gnome you have three options: (1) forget password right away, (2) cache password during the current gnome session, (3) store password forever21:15
HelveTuxyes, but on my system, I can't remember it asking me about this remember thing... maybe a bug... but it's almost certain that it can be reactivated or that the password can be "force-dropped" from cache...21:16
sixwheeledbeast^I assume it's managed by the program your using, I have never had this.21:17
sixwheeledbeast^do you have something like gnome-keyring-caja ?21:17
HelveTuxI'm pretty sure it's a functionnality that has been implemented, nut I can't find any documentation about it...21:17
tomreynmaybe you have "Passwords and Keys"21:17
OerHeksData in memory (“Remember password until you logout”) is present in the memory of the gnome-keyring-daemon process21:17
OerHeksso, not seahorse itself21:18
OerHeksgnome-keyring-daemon -r reset the passphrase prompt21:18
OerHekshttps://askubuntu.com/questions/615408/how-to-disable-remember-forever-option-in-mounting-encrypted-disks/72476621:18
HelveTuxsixwheeledbeast^, OerHeks , thank you for joining the discussion :)21:20
HelveTuxsixwheeledbeast^, no, no gnome-keyring-caja21:20
NyleHello, I need to install mariadb 5.5 on ubuntu 18 LTS. I can't seem to figure out a way.21:21
sixwheeledbeast^I suppose it forgets if you logout of the user session21:21
NyleDoes anyone have any idea where to get the packages21:21
HelveTuxsixwheeledbeast^, yes for sure... but the idea (in my mind) is that if I eject the drive, it's password should be immediately forgotten. Or I shoul be in capacity of discarding it. I'll try the -r option21:22
sixwheeledbeast^Nyle: https://mariadb.com/kb/en/library/installing-mariadb-deb-files/21:22
OerHeksonly trusty gives 5.5, https://launchpad.net/maria21:22
Nylesixwheeledbeast^: I read that, I did everything21:22
Nylehttp://sfo1.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/5.5/ubuntu/ went to many different urls repositories21:22
OerHeksi think you will have issues porting that back to 18.0421:22
Nylebrowsing around21:22
sixwheeledbeast^HelveTux: It seem like it defaults to21:23
sixwheeledbeast^that21:23
Nylehmm21:23
tomreynmariadb 5.5 is stone age, you'll probably need to build this yourself.21:23
sixwheeledbeast^if you have seahorse can you change it21:23
Nyleok21:24
NyleI am on the wrong distro anyway21:24
NyleI think they have centos, I mistakenly thought of ubuntu21:24
NyleI have to try to replicate their production env here in dev in a vm21:24
Nyleblah.21:25
Nylethanks anyway21:25
OerHeksproduction servers on 5.5, sure21:25
HelveTuxOerHeks, I'm going to test the -r option but don't understand something :21:25
HelveTuxaccording from the man of gnome-keyring-daemon, thhe -r option is to replace the daemon, not to reset the dialog. Does it do the same thing?21:26
tomreynif the running daemon process is what caches the password in RAM, and you restart (replace) the dameon, then it should release the RAM and the new process should have forgotten those passwords21:28
HelveTuxyes, and all other passwords ?21:29
HelveTuxcross fingers and try...21:29
tomreynany permanently stored passwords should be manageable via "Passwords and Keys" (which i think is 'seahorse')21:30
sixwheeledbeast^HelveTux: Look in Caja for Preferences Extensions, there is a option to uncheck libcaja-seahorse.21:30
orionpI'm attempting a auto-install or kickstart install of Ubuntu 16.04 for the first time and I'm having trouble.  The network isn't getting activated.  This is being started via virt-install.  Is there some boot parameter I need to pass to get the network brought up?21:33
zigggggyHi! I am installing 18.04.3 on a vps and i am at the filesystem setup screen21:35
HelveTuxsixwheeledbeast^, yes, I found it. Disabled it, but the disk still can be remounted without password.21:35
zigggggydo i want to "use an entire disk" or should i set it up manually?21:35
sixwheeledbeast^hmm21:35
zigggggyi want encryption on this disk so i think i have to use lvm, right?21:35
HelveTuxOerHeks, tried the gnome-keyring-daemon -r but did not change anything21:37
HelveTuxstrange21:37
tomreynHelveTux: as a last resort, those key rings should be physically stored at ~/.local/share/keyrings21:42
sixwheeledbeast^maybe if you delete the key the fact you have the option in caja uncheck will stop it saving.21:52
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umbSublimeHi there, I'm having issues installing steam on ubuntu 18.04. A found a related bug it's resolved and the package version listed in it doens't work https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/steam/+bug/1752198 Does anyone know a way around this22:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1752198 in steam (Ubuntu) "Steam is not installable on Ubuntu 18.04" [Critical,Fix released]22:04
umbSublimeI'm on a fresh install22:04
Bashing-om!info steam bionic22:07
ubottusteam (source: steam): Valve's Steam digital software delivery system. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 1:1.0.0.54+repack-5ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 1280 kB, installed size 4010 kB22:07
umbSublimeBashing-om: yup that's the version giving me the exact same symptoms as the linked bugreport22:16
umbSublimeCandidate: 1:1.0.0.54+repack-5ubuntu122:17
Bashing-omumbSublime: Sorry; was the only thought I had that you did not have the "repacked" version installed. :(22:19
tomreynumbSublime: how did you install, what's the error message or unexpected behavior?22:23
umbSublimetomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CS85PCBDsT/22:24
mortTrying to install gimp 2.99 from https://launchpad.net/~otto-kesselgulasch/+archive/ubuntu/gimp-edge, but even after adding the ppa, even though the ppa contains gimp 2.99.1, and after `sudo apt update`, trying to install gimp still just installs the regular 2.10.8 version. What's up with that?22:25
umbSublimeI've done `sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386`, but no change22:25
tomreynumbSublime: ok, this answers the second of my questions22:25
umbSublimeI know this has nothing to do with my issue , but I've also tried with nouveau driver and nvidia driver22:27
tomreynumbSublime: so it remains unclear how exactly you installed. but i can guess, and you probably just need to "sudo apt update && sudo apt -f install"22:27
umbSublimeI'll give the `-f` a shot22:28
umbSublimeAll packages are up to date.22:28
tomreynmort: which ubuntu version are you on? lsb_release -ds22:28
morttomreyn: 19.1022:29
tomreyn!19.1022:30
ubottuUbuntu 19.10 (Eoan Ermine) is the 31st release of Ubuntu, supported until July 2020. Release notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EoanErmine/ReleaseNotes22:30
tomreynthere is no "gimp" package in this repository for "Eoan": https://launchpad.net/~otto-kesselgulasch/+archive/ubuntu/gimp-edge?field.series_filter=eoan22:30
morttomreyn: huh, strange22:32
umbSublimetomreyn: I've tried to install with "sudo apt update && sudo apt install steam"22:32
umbSublimeanyhow I have to leave in a few minutes I'll come back here monday about this issue XD22:33
tomreynumbSublime: okay, and when you re-run this now, what'S the output (of both these commands)?22:33
umbSublime2sec22:33
umbSublimetomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/h5FkFWdB52/22:34
umbSublimeleaving now though. I'll be back monday. Thanks for your help22:35
tomreynsee you22:35
tomreynmort: PPAs aren't supported here, but you can try your luck: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=gimp22:36
umbSublimetomreyn: also this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DGCxXKYhSG/22:37
tomreynyou can try installing steam-installer22:38
tomreyni guess your sources.list is just a mess, though22:39
HelveTuxtomreyn, sixwheeledbeast^ OerHeks Thank you for your help. I'll try to test some more and see if I can find something useful. :)23:08
fuzeI installed windows 10 over kubuntu 19.10 and i am trying to reinstall grub on my efi partition. when i try to mount it i get mount: /mnt/boot/efi: /dev/nvme0n1 already mounted or mount point busy.23:08
fuzeim going to try this in windows https://askubuntu.com/questions/655011/windows-10-upgrade-kills-grub-and-boot-repair-doesnt-help23:10
jeremy31fuze: that should work23:10
fuzejeremy31: didnt work for me, should i replace ubuntu with kubuntu in the command?23:23
jeremy31fuze: no as I think kubuntu uses the same directory.  If you just have a single drive try boot repair with the Live ISO https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#The_graphical_way23:24
fuzejeremy31: installed using kubuntu live usb and i get "Please use this software in a live-session (live-CD or live-USB). This will enable this feature."23:31
fuzehttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kRX3H75JJV/23:32
fuzeaccording to boot repair its stored at /EFI/BOOT/grubx64.efi actually so BOOT not ubuntu23:32
fuzeill try in windows using BOOT instead23:32
fuzeor should i use lowercase boot, idk if that matters23:33
jeremy31fuze: see if you have Legacy/CSM mode enabled in BIOS23:33
fuzeit didnt work :(23:36
fuzejeremy31: do i need that enabled?23:36
jeremy31fuze, you should have UEFI only enabled from what I saw23:41
fuzejeremy31: yes i do23:41
jeremy31fuze: HP?23:42
fuzethe brand?23:42
jeremy31fuze, yes23:42
fuzecustom built23:42
jeremy31fuze: any option in BIOS for OS boot manager or custom EFI file?23:43
fuzeIts ASUS mobo23:43
fuzeI'll check23:44
fuzejeremy31: nope23:51
jeremy31fuze, sorry as I have no more ideas23:52

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