[00:01] <CrazyLikeAFox> Is there a procedure to calibrate a touch screen in xubuntu 18.04?
[00:02] <CrazyLikeAFox> trying it on a cf-18 toughbook, and the stylus is only correct at a single point, it scale distance from that point incorrectly
[00:51] <HayashiEsme> Ah hello
[00:52] <HayashiEsme> Test
[00:52] <rickybob> hey fren
[00:52] <rickybob> u made it
[00:52] <HayashiEsme> Hiya
[00:52] <HayashiEsme> If it'll let me change the capitalization on my dang username
[00:52] <HayashiEsme> Okay we're yeeting this IRC client
[00:52] <KhakiIbex28> Whats yeeting?
[00:52] <HayashiEsme> Oops ha ha
[00:53] <HayashiEsme> Yeeting means throwing, it originates from a silly meme
[00:54] <rickybob> HayashiEsme: just do /nick hayashi
[00:54] <rickybob> etc
[00:54] <rickybob> re reg
[00:54] <rickybob> maybe not
[00:55] <HayashiEsme> Oh if only that fixed it ha, turns out it the client kept wanting to replace my username with my ubuntu username on login
[00:55] <rickybob> damnit where tf is this py
[00:55] <HayashiEsme> Or least I think anyway, I haven't been on IRC since I was a little fetus lmfao
[00:56] <rickybob> ditto
[00:56] <rickybob> been decades, used to dfo vb2 on aol
[00:56] <rickybob> now im python irc
[00:56] <rickybob> lol
[00:56] <HayashiEsme> daaaamn
[00:56] <HayashiEsme> I'll look Python IRC up
[00:56] <rickybob> back in the ole gold rush days of spam
[00:57] <HayashiEsme> gotta send them chain mail lmfao
[00:57] <hggdh> folks, can we please keep on-topic?
[00:57] <rickybob> haha free email servers running on cable
[00:57] <rickybob> supa fast
[00:57] <rickybob> sorry im newwww
[00:57] <rickybob> whats topic
[00:57] <ducasse> !topic
[00:58] <hggdh> rickybob: type /topic to find out all about this channel
[00:58] <rickybob> k
[00:58] <mustmodify> FKHell: Nope, I'm trying to get my personal blog back up and ... long story.
[00:58] <HayashiEsme> Sorry thanks for letting me know about the topic rule
[00:58] <mustmodify> just getting back, sorry for the delay.
[00:59] <KhakiIbex28> Give the blog's URLm
[00:59] <KhakiIbex28> *URL
[00:59] <mustmodify> it's down right now.
[01:00] <KhakiIbex28> What happened?
[01:00] <mustmodify> Well, actually, it was. It's back up but something's wrong with the CSS so it's just HTML.
[01:00] <mustmodify> Well, sometime in 2015ish something broke. I had work and just ... didn't 'take the time to fix it.
[01:00] <mustmodify> So initially I just couldn't login so I couldn't add content. And then apparently something else broke and it stopped working altogether
[01:00] <KhakiIbex28> How was your blog's traffic?
[01:00] <mustmodify> blog.mustmodify.com
[01:01] <mustmodify> Dunno, I didn't care. I was mostly keeping my software notes there.
[01:01] <KhakiIbex28> Well, get the blog back up online.
[01:01] <mustmodify> More lab notes as I wrote software, kind of a place to think on paper
[01:02] <mustmodify> Right.
[01:03] <mustmodify> So I posted a question a while ago and still don't know quite how to do it.
[01:03] <KhakiIbex28> https://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.mustmodify.com%2F States that you have an CSS
[01:03] <mustmodify> I have all the posts each in a file.
[01:03] <mustmodify> I need to change the 3rd through nth line that contains just "---" to "```"
[01:04] <mustmodify> I know how to do it if it's EVERY instance
[01:04] <mustmodify> but don't know how to do the 3rd..nth instance for each file
[01:04] <mustmodify> any suggestions of a tool that might do that?
[01:05] <HayashiEsme> I can't access the css sheet that the site is linked to
[01:06] <HayashiEsme> Oh whoops you have a solution
[01:06] <mustmodify> right. I have the content in files.
[01:06] <mustmodify> And I can import it to a new site.
[01:06] <mustmodify> But I need to make changes to the 102 files.
[01:06] <mustmodify> And I can do it manually but as a dev... that's kinda sad. :|
[01:07] <HayashiEsme> Will a text editor not replace it for you?
[01:07] <HayashiEsme> I know VSCode would do it, it'll preview everything before you replace it oo
[01:07] <mustmodify> Read above. There's a catch.
[01:08] <mustmodify> I need to replace the 3rd through last instance of ---, not the first two, IN EACH FILE.
[01:08] <HayashiEsme> Right I need to sleep my bad
[01:08] <mustmodify> So that's harder.
[01:09] <HayashiEsme> Yeah it can be a little hard to get that done, regex specifically discourages using it to replace code
[01:09] <mustmodify> I'll figure it out.
[01:10] <mustmodify> I'm thinking about writing a ruby script to do it.
[01:10] <mustmodify> That wouldn't be too hard.
[01:10] <HayashiEsme> I guess you'll have to figure out if finding a tool is worth the time taken to manually do it yourself
[01:10] <HayashiEsme> Not familiar with Ruby but that makes sense
[01:11] <mustmodify> it's 102 files so that seems like it'd take forever!!! :)
[01:11] <mustmodify> Or I'm just lazy.
[01:11] <HayashiEsme> Well or you'll end up being bored out of your mind before you get it done I guess ha
[01:12] <HayashiEsme> Yeah 102 files worth of every third lines would be frustrating, F
[01:17] <cgi> how do i transfer videos/photos from my pixel 3 to ubuntu ? I currently dont see anything when i connect the usb c?
[01:19] <cgi> ipad mounts with dcim folder without problems
[01:57] <xieyi> any idea on how to use xpra on ubuntu 19.10 properly
[02:05] <anon> how come i added my user to sudo group but i still get pemission denied unless I type sudo blah command?
[02:05] <anon> am I misunderstanding something about how permissions work in linux
[02:05] <mustmodify> sudo group means you _can_ type sudo
[02:06] <mustmodify> sudo doesn't give you the authority. It gives you the authority to use root, which has the authority.
[02:06] <mustmodify> type `whoami`
[02:06] <mustmodify> then type `sudo whoami`
[02:06] <anon> mustmodify, what if i want to not have to type sudo each time but dont want to use an account called root?
[02:07] <mustmodify> OK. So you want an account just like root but with another name?
[02:07] <EriC^^> anon: you can get a shell "sudo -i"
[02:07] <EriC^^> you'd be using the account 'root' kind of though
[02:08] <mustmodify> Just FYI, that's typically frowned upon because you have so much power you could easily cause problems for yourself.
[02:08] <mustmodify> but you can certainly do it.
[02:08] <anon> mustmodify, yes exactly
[02:08] <anon> i mean i understand i could cause problems for myself but
[02:08] <anon> its better than having an account explicitly called root and using that no?
[02:09] <mustmodify> it's better to use your own account and use sudo when you need to do something. So at least you're typing sudo and saying "MUST NOT CAUSE PROBLEMS!!!"
[02:09] <pragmaticenigma> mustmodify, let's try to focus on the question, and less about personal opinions.
[02:10] <pragmaticenigma> anon, it is frowned upon, but there is no method by which you can have an account with root priveleges other than root itself.
[02:11] <anon> o ok thanks pragmaticenigma
[02:12] <anon> guess I was just curious
[02:14] <pragmaticenigma> anon, it is possible to get root like session after authentication. Where you would issue the command "sudo -i" which lets you into a "root" level shell where you are free to issue commands and run applications. If you decide you would prefer that, that is the closest, and safest way to achieve your goal. Your machine remains secure against outside forces, and only your user with sudo priveleges can access a "root" shell
[02:15] <qwertuttyty> ?
[02:15] <tomreyn> !
[02:15] <pragmaticenigma> anon, the next closest is to setup sudo to not require a password. But that does lower the threshold for keeping your machine secure.
[02:18] <anon> got it
[02:18] <anon> interesting stuff
[02:18] <anon> can I ask how you acquired that level of knowledge?
[02:18] <styledash> dont use sudo without password
[02:18] <anon> or is this just common knowledge
[02:19] <anon> i mean ive been using linux for awhile but i didnt know this
[02:19] <pragmaticenigma> anon, As a person that has been using linux and other unix type systems. I will say in the last few years I have found the need to use sudo less and less. The entire community is working toward reducing the need for root level permissions.
[02:20] <pragmaticenigma> anon, I've aquired the knowledge through time, and lots of trial and error
[02:20] <styledash> you should just get in the habit of using "sudo COMMAND" when you need to run something as "root"
[02:21] <styledash> its also a good check so you know which commands are being run as root and everything else is not
[02:21] <pragmaticenigma> styledash, we've already covered that portion. let's not continue to repeat ourselves
[02:22] <styledash> repetition is the path to understanding
[02:24] <qwertuttyty> usb flash with exfat. I removed exfat-fuse and usb flash can be mounted and the drives show the flash drive has a file system exfat. Kernel 5.4. Does the 5.4 kernel already have an exfat driver? 19.10 U-Mate 19.10 U-Mate
[02:25] <qwertuttyty> usb flash with exfat. I removed exfat-fuse and usb flash can be mounted and the disks show the flash drive has a file system exfat. Kernel 5.4. Does the 5.4 kernel already have an exfat driver? 19.10 U-Mate 19.10 U-Mate
[02:25] <pragmaticenigma> !patience | qwertuttyty
[02:26] <tomreyn> linux 5.4 is not available on any ubuntu release supported here, i think.
[02:26] <tomreyn> 19.10 comes with 5.3
[02:26] <tomreyn> which kernel are oyu using, qwertuttyty
[02:26] <qwertuttyty> you have 5.3 i have 5.4
[02:27] <qwertuttyty> 5.4.0
[02:27] <tomreyn> how did you install it?
[02:27] <qwertuttyty> ubuntu kerenel 5.4.0
[02:28] <pragmaticenigma> qwertuttyty, This channel only supports the released kernels that are available in the package repository. If you have installed another kernel from source or other repository, you will need to seek out other support channels
[02:29] <pragmaticenigma> qwertuttyty, what that means is that there is no documentation in the official ubuntu resources for the volunteers to utilize to answer your question. You might have better luck asking in ##linux or a kernel related channel.
[02:33] <qwertuttyty> ok
[02:36] <pragmaticenigma> qwertuttyty, on a more generic level, the ability for your computer to identify a filesystem has nothing to do with a driver. Every file system has a "signature" to identify itself. That signature is part of a look up table that is independent of any drivers.
[02:39] <qwertuttyty> 99% in 5.4 exfat driver have. i dont know. Kernel 5.4.0 - ubuntu. I deleted exfat-fuse and see file system exfat on usb flash
[02:42] <pragmaticenigma> qwertuttyty, perhaps this will help explain: https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/244256
[02:50] <BrknMan> quick question about ipsec
[02:50] <BrknMan> for some reason, conn sections in /etc/ipsec.conf don't... quite function the way one would expect, the only the first ever gets defined, additional conn sections are ignored
[02:51] <BrknMan> anyone know why this might be?
[02:56] <pragmaticenigma> BrknMan, it might be because it is too generic and take precedence over the other definitions?
[02:57] <pragmaticenigma> BrknMan, From the documentation, it also appears both sides have to mutually come to an agreement. Perhaps since that is the first in both, that is what they choose to use?
[03:04] <BrknMan> pragmaticenigma: both sides do, but that should be irrespective of the configuration, where each conn is named with a unique ID, I can have 'conn one' and futher down 'conn two', if I `ipsec up conn two` it will say there is no conn named conn two (no other connections are up at that time)
[03:04] <BrknMan> pragmaticenigma: if I comment out 'conn one' completely, conn two works just fine
[03:11] <CrazyLikeAFox> Oh, I got the usb drive cradle to work, and got the old drive migrated in- sudo dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sda (it took a bit over 2 hours to push 60gb over usb 2.0)
[03:31] <qwertuttyty> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K2f4cYj6Kt/
[03:39] <bipul> Hi, just asking, is it possible to install vcli on Ubuntu OS, to connecting vmware esxi 6.0 remotely?
[04:05] <swift110> hey
[04:13] <blueingress> Hi, I run a ubuntu 19.10 server and find that the CTRL+left CTRL+right not working on console ttys. so I make it work again via https://pastebin.com/Xhzf7Cmn, but how can I make it work permannet after reboot?
[04:16] <tomreyn> blueingress: sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[04:19] <blueingress> using sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration will change your keyboardlayout just for this session.
[04:20] <blueingress> maybe some setting in file /etc/default/keyboard ?
[04:21] <tomreyn> actually     sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration     will set your keyboard layout not just for the current session. unless oyu have something in place that overwrites it.
[04:22] <swift110> goodness
[04:23] <tomreyn>  /etc/default/keyboard is exactly managed by keyboard-configuration
[04:24] <tomreyn> see /usr/share/doc/keyboard-configuration/README.Debian for more details
[04:25] <blueingress> ok, Thanks a lot, I am reading.
[04:51] <Mr_Cyclops> Hello. I  have a few machines running Ubuntu 18.04.3 server, need to put them into a cluster so that I can use the cluster for some jobs I wish to run.
[04:51] <Mr_Cyclops> Need to know which software shall I use and any configuration guidelines? thanks
[04:54] <tomreyn> what kind of a cluster?
[04:55] <Mr_Cyclops> Well, I have some scripts that require computer power (shell scripts), and I was wondering if I could use a shared storage amongst the machines, and utilize the CPU + RAM of all machines to run the script faster
[04:55] <aberrant> depends on the jobs you want to run. Are they parallelizable?
[04:56] <Mr_Cyclops> The script doesn't support running threads in parallel
[04:56] <aberrant> I'm not there yet :) The work that needs to be done - can it be done in parallel?
[04:56] <aberrant> some work can't.
[04:58] <Mr_Cyclops> I'm sorry, I didn't get you. The script analyzes files from a bunch of input directories, and saves the output files into an output dir. I wrote the script myself
[04:58] <Mr_Cyclops> not getting the "Can be done in parallel thing?"
[04:58] <aberrant> the easiest way, I guess, is to share a common filesystem (using NFS, say) and split the input up into chunks, and assign each chunk to one server.
[04:58] <Mr_Cyclops> aberrant, that's what I've been doing, but it's all manual work,
[04:58] <EriC^^> write a script that does just that
[04:58] <aberrant> well, some work is not parallelizable. Things like, I dunno, cipher block chaining, for example, where the output of one thing depends on the input of the previous thing.
[04:59] <aberrant> if you're doing it manually then you can probably automate it
[04:59] <aberrant> what EriC^^ said :)
[04:59] <Mr_Cyclops> aberrant, oh nothing like that, its a basic script, just trying to make it utilize all machines for one single job (if possible). The Job Scheduler/Executioner should do/manage the splitting of data etc. in chunks etc....
[05:00] <aberrant> otherwise you're looking at rewriting your scripts and at that point you might as well do something with a real parallel scheduler.
[05:00] <tomreyn> either way, this sounds like a programming question.
[05:00] <Mr_Cyclops> aberrant, :) I do like the idea though, script to run the script ("._.")
[05:00] <Mr_Cyclops> tomreyn, yes it does :)
[05:00] <aberrant> you should absolutely use a script to run the script
[05:01] <aberrant> I wonder if gnu parallel can help here.
[05:01] <aberrant> I'll bet it can
[05:02] <tomreyn> better ask on the channel of the scripting language you're intending to parallize.
[05:02] <Mr_Cyclops> https://www.gnu.org/software/parallel/ ... hmm at first glance, does look like the thing I'm looking for
[05:02] <aberrant> yup, that's it
[05:02] <Mr_Cyclops> need to dig it .... thanks aberrant
[05:02] <aberrant> sure. good luck
[05:02] <aberrant> it's the swiss army knife of parallel scripting
[05:02] <Mr_Cyclops> tomreyn, thanks, I guess. I just thought some ubuntu package/suite was available
[05:02] <Mr_Cyclops> thanks all :)
[05:02] <aberrant> apt install parallel :)
[05:03] <Mr_Cyclops> appreciate your help
[05:03] <aberrant> might be gnu-parallel, but you get the idea :)
[05:03] <Mr_Cyclops> I do :)
[05:04] <aberrant> Mr_Cyclops: also this might help
[05:04] <aberrant> athost
[05:04] <aberrant> #!/bin/sh
[05:04] <aberrant> host=$(basename $0 | sed "s/^\@//g")
[05:04] <aberrant> if [ $# -eq 0 ]; then ssh -q $host
[05:04] <aberrant> else echo "running $* on $host" ssh -q $host -t "$SHELL -i -c \"$*\""
[05:05] <aberrant> man
[05:05] <aberrant> that sucked.
[05:06] <aberrant> ok, whatever. It's a nice script that when you symlink `@hostname` to it, you can just type `@hostname <cmd>` and it'll execute <cmd> on that host.
[05:06] <aberrant> I use it to do status checks on my cluster.
[05:08] <aberrant> anyway - g'night and good luck
[05:16] <Mr_Cyclops> lol aberrant thanks again :) I got the idea :D
[06:12] <JulianCienfuegos> \leave
[06:27] <Rich_Morin> I'm using apt-get to install some packages on a VirtualBox VM running Ubuntu.  I'd like to examine the APT configuration files for some packages, but I'm not sure about the easiest way to find them.  Suggerstions?
[07:31] <cluelessperson> So it turns out for me that kswapd was using a ton of CPU in the background.
[07:39] <cluelessperson> however
[07:39] <cluelessperson> ubuntu 19.10 keeps starting it up again
[07:57] <sameepvicky> When I screen share using Zoom or Skype, and try to type or write/draw using a pen on any app like xournal or inkscape, there is a significant lag. This lag is there when using ubuntu based distro like lubuntu 19.10 or KDE Neon 18.04 or Mint 19.2 Cinnamon. This lag is there on the Machine Lenovo AIO 330 using linux (not there in Windows). This lag is not there on my different machine (Dell Inspiron 1525) using linux or windows.
[08:08] <guiverc> sameepvicky, please don't paste the same question in multiple rooms
[08:13] <sameepvicky> ok guiverc, shall I modify the question with only that linux distro name?
[08:48] <al_nz1> why does this command not link the current directory (vedirect01) to /etc/service/vedirect01 ? (instead it creates dir vedirect01 in the current dir?) https://pastebin.com/CXS3c8hu
[08:56] <geirha> al_nz1: don't cross-post. The link probably already exists, so ln sees that the last argument is a directory, or a symlink pointing to an existing directory, so it creates the symlink inside that directory instead
[09:03] <al_nz1> geirha: thanks
[09:40] <cluelessperson> I can't seem to find nightlight in ubuntu
[09:40] <cluelessperson> it seems it's not installed?
[09:40]  * cluelessperson checks
[09:41] <cluelessperson> yeah, no package
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> cluelessperson: gnome has now baked in night lights
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> cluelessperson: unless youre not on gnome?
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> cluelessperson: systemsettings/devices/screens/tab nightlight
[09:56] <cluelessperson> lotuspsychje, oh, it's moved to a different tab
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[09:57] <cluelessperson> alright. :D
[10:20] <battery6> hello everyone
[10:20] <battery6> anyone here with a good grasp of process priorities and can help me by answering some questions i have?
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> !ask | battery6
[10:22] <OerHeks> battery6, just ask your ubuntu question, wait and see
[10:22] <battery6> I see, i will lay it out then.
[10:27] <battery6> So first assume this, i have a script with an infinite loop for testing purposes. I start this script from my user without any sudo commands which should make it run in user space (maybe it does either way but thats not of importance). Then i want to check what priority the process have. I know of 3 ways to do this. Number one the command "ps -o pid,ni,pri *PID*" which generates a value of 19 as the priority. Number two, the
[10:27] <battery6> command "ps -l *PID*" which generates a value of 80 as the priority. Number 3 top/htop which shows me a value of 20 as the priority. Now for the question. Why do it get 3 different values when checking the same process in different ways?
[10:30] <battery6> I have also noticed that the command "ps -o pri_baz" gives a value of 120 which to me seems to be the real priority of the process from the kernel point of view. I just cant see the connection between all of this approaches and why they differ in result.
[10:32] <Seveas> battery6: if you search for priority in the proc manpage you can find explanations for all three numbers
[10:32] <battery6> Thank you, i will read and return if i find anything still unclear to me.
[10:52] <talin> spello
[10:52] <talin> i have an ancient laptop with "yakkety" in sources.list
[10:52] <talin> is it possible to upgrade it?
[10:54] <gigirock> talin, i don't think so... I think is better for you save your data and reinstall...  what de are you running in your yakkety ?
[10:54] <ducasse> talin: theoretically yes, but i recommend a clean install
[10:55] <talin> it's an ancient laptop that i found, but i'd rather not reinstall if i don't have to
[10:55] <talin> gigirock: hmm, it's some kind of mint-like DE
[10:55] <talin> gigirock: can't remmeber what that's called
[10:55] <ducasse> it would probably be faster and easier
[10:56] <talin> mate, i think
[10:56] <ducasse> !eolupgrade | talin if you want to try, read this
[10:57] <talin> thank you, noble sir
[10:57] <gigirock> talin, you can save your /home and then try to 'load' the user with the new system.... but we are talking about attempt....
[10:58] <BadGuyAlex> helli
[10:58] <BadGuyAlex> systemd-tmpfiles-clean
[10:58] <BadGuyAlex> how to disable it permanently?
[11:00] <BadGuyAlex> it's inactive but still something removed my temporary files
[11:04] <ryuo> BadGuyAlex: they're "temporary files". did you expect them to last forever?
[11:04] <BadGuyAlex> no, but I can manage them myself. I do not need a babysitter.
[11:04] <BadGuyAlex> Remove on shutdown is fine.
[11:06] <ryuo> BadGuyAlex: systemctl disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean ?
[11:08] <BadGuyAlex> thanks
[11:09] <BadGuyAlex> I hope it will work.
[11:10] <BadGuyAlex> last time my temp files disappeared despite systemd-tmpfiles-clean being inactive
[11:46] <zamanf> hi, I am on ubuntu and I want to create a partition to install windows 7 on dual boot
[11:47] <zamanf> is it possible?
[11:50] <OerHeks> best way is install windows 7 first, thén ubuntu
[11:51] <OerHeks> if you have used your whole disk, you will need a live iso to change partitions
[11:51] <gbellinoz> zamanf: Beware, Windows install blew away my linux partition without asking me once.
[11:51] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[11:52] <OerHeks> yes, it wants to be dominant, with its recovery partition at the end
[11:53] <zamanf> can I resize my active partition?
[11:53] <zamanf> I have 1 SSD on this system
[11:54] <OerHeks> no, not your active ubuntu partitions, they need to be unmounted to do so
[11:54] <OerHeks> so, boot live iso and fix it that way, but i would start fresh,m windows first
[11:55] <OerHeks> .. and you would have some days left for windows 7 support, just saying
[11:56] <zamanf> I am not worrying about that, windows is not my concern
[11:56] <zamanf> just need to run 1 application
[11:56] <OerHeks> put it in KVM/Virtualbox?
[11:57] <zamanf> it doesn't work - I have to use gpu passthrough, which I don't know how it's done in vmware
[11:57] <I-T_bro> Does Ubuntu have any plans for Facebooks online currency etc?
[11:58] <OerHeks> I-T_bro, maybe we accept them as donation, dunno
[11:58] <I-T_bro> Thats all?
[11:59] <I-T_bro> Not get integration etc
[12:06] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:48] <Polesch> Is there a command / tool to combine "ls -1a" and "du -h"?
[13:48] <Polesch> Do I get a list of all files in the current direct and their volume next to them?
[13:48] <Polesch> Or, size.
[13:51] <e1z0> hi
[13:51] <e1z0> is it possible that ubuntu 19.10 network configuration is altering something, because i've trying to run mini dlna without any success on the local network
[13:51] <e1z0> the announcement does not work at all
[13:57] <mojospy> hello
[14:00] <mojospy> hello everyone
[14:01] <marcoagpinto> hey
[14:05] <mojospy> cool
[14:08] <mcphail> Polesch does ncdu do what you need?
[14:20] <loxie> hi everyone-do any of you know if woeusb can be installed onto ubuntu desktop 19.10, Im having a bit of trouble
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> loxie: there's a woeusb snap if you want
[14:26] <u__> hi everyone-do any of you know if woeusb can be installed onto ubuntu desktop 19.10, Im having a bit of trouble. thanks in advance
[14:28] <akik> loxoe: what error do you get?
[14:29] <loxoe> wont be a moment will repeat
[14:32] <loxoe> thank you very much akik but i just downloaded the latest version for my architecture and it is installed and runs-unlike there deb package installer i clicked on previously stoked its working
[14:33] <loxoe> lol =)
[14:35] <akik> i pretend to understand that :)
[14:35] <loxoe> =)
[15:24] <bencc1> is it possible to install chromium 78 instead of latest 79?
[15:26] <lotuspsychje> bencc1: its reccomended to install package versions that are meant for your ubuntu version
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> bencc1: wich version of ubuntu are you using currently?
[15:29] <bencc1> lotuspsychje: ubuntu 18.04 with chrome stable 79
[15:29] <bencc1> lotuspsychje: chrome 79 has a bug - the page sometimes freeze for several seconds
[15:29] <bencc1> I want to install chrome/chromium 78 and compare
[15:30] <vvvvvv3213> hey i can just technically delete every partition and it will delete ubuntu, windows 10, and the bootloader, correct?
[15:31] <ducasse> vvvvvv3213: the bootloader only lives in a partition on uefi systems, on legacy systems it's at the start of the disk
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> bencc1: installing older packages could result into dependency issues for your system like ppa's etc
[15:33] <vvvvvv3213> hmm
[15:33] <bencc1> lotuspsychje: that's not what I asked. I asked how, not why I shouldn't do it
[15:33] <bencc1> thanks
[15:34] <vvvvvv3213> on Gparted it says that dev/sda2 is a "efi system partition" with a fat32 file system, is this where it could be located?
[15:35] <ducasse> yes
[15:35] <vvvvvv3213> ok cool
[15:44] <aberrant> short of disabling apparmor, how do I get rid of these messages? aa-complain doesn't seem to work:
[15:44] <aberrant> [223979.812133] audit: type=1400 audit(1576828827.453:106): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_replace" info="same as current profile, skip
[15:44] <aberrant> ping" profile="unconfined" name="libvirt-56eaafde-ee1a-4024-ad7c-d3816a6739a6" pid=13335 comm="apparmor_parser"
[16:16] <mr_lou> Every now and then I see a harddisk icon popup in my taskbar, and then it goes away again. It looks suspecious I think. Any explanation for this?
[16:16] <lordcirth> mr_lou, do you have a USB stick plugged in?
[16:17] <mr_lou> No
[16:18] <mr_lou> I call dmesg when I see it, but I don't see anything there.
[16:19] <mr_lou> Or well, I see this: [18762.911286] EXT4-fs (sdc): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
[16:19] <mr_lou> But nothing is mounted on sdc.
[16:19] <mr_lou> But it sure does look like something was mounted shortly.
[16:22] <mr_lou> hm... a lot of audits follows.
[16:22] <mr_lou> for snap.opera.com
[16:22] <mr_lou> Maybe Snap makes a virtual drive?
[16:23] <rapidwave> Trying to install python3-venv, but it's part of another package....which package?
[16:30] <leftyfb> rapidwave: python3-venv is a package available from the universe repository
[16:35] <lordcirth> mr_lou, snap makes loop devices, iirc, but it shouldn't show up as a USB
[16:36] <lordcirth> mr_lou, what is sdc? Does it exist?
[16:37] <akk> Might be interesting to do lsblk when the device is there.
[16:56] <alazare619> Rey is a genetic clone of anakin, much like how x23 (laura kenny) is a clone of wolverine
[16:56] <alazare619> Rey is a genetic clone of anakin, much like how x23 (laura kenny) is a clone of wolverine
[16:56] <alazare619> Rey is a genetic clone of anakin, much like how x23 (laura kenny) is a clone of wolverine
[16:56] <alazare619> Rey is a genetic clone of anakin, much like how x23 (laura kenny) is a clone of wolverine
[16:56] <alazare619> Rey is a genetic clone of anakin, much like how x23 (laura kenny) is a clone of wolverine
[16:56] <alazare619> Rey is a genetic clone of anakin, much like how x23 (laura kenny) is a clone of wolverine
[16:56] <alazare619> Rey is a genetic clone of anakin, much like how x23 (laura kenny) is a clone of wolverine
[16:56] <dax> oook
[17:16] <gerep> Can someone help with a firmware error while running sudo apt dist-upgrade? https://pastebin.com/kzVH4hWC
[17:16] <gerep> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KjgSmV2Wf7/
[17:17] <Habbie> 'Operation not permitted'
[17:17] <Habbie> that is weird
[17:17] <Habbie> anything in dmesg?
[17:17] <gerep> I was getting a similar error but complaining about the wifi firmware and disabling the wifi fixed it but I got that new error about `/lib/firmware/netronome/nic/nic_AMDA0081-0001_1x40.nffw.dpkg-new
[17:18] <gerep> Habbie, will check.
[17:18] <rapidwave> How do I get pip to use Python3?
[17:18] <rapidwave> I already set alias for python to use python3
[17:18] <Habbie> rapidwave, let's take one step back - what are you trying to do with pip?
[17:19] <rapidwave> I
[17:19] <rapidwave> I'm trying to setup a virtual env using python3 and install django
[17:19] <Habbie> if the virtualenv is set up with python3, pip in the virtualenv will use python3
[17:19] <hitech95> Hi, I have just moved from 18.04 to 19.04 and some devices don't work anymore. I'm tring to figure it out but on kernel 5 the verbose level is lower and dmesg is clean. Any idea on how to troubleshoot?
[17:19] <gerep> Habbie, nothing weird, some snap messages.
[17:19] <rapidwave> Ahh
[17:19] <Habbie> if the virtualenv is not set up with python3, you need to delete the virtualenv and make it again
[17:19] <Habbie> gerep, don't know then, sorry
[17:19] <rapidwave> Also, I need to install python3-venv, but while it's referred to by a package, the package doesn't exist
[17:20] <akk> rapidwave: You can verify by typing python --version to make sure it's python3.
[17:20] <gerep> Habbie, No problem =)
[17:20] <Habbie> rapidwave, 'python3 -mvenv my-venv-dir' should be all you need
[17:20] <akk> rapidwave: also which pip will tell you the path to the pip it would run.
[17:20] <Habbie> rapidwave, don't know about ubuntu, but in debian, python3-venv is an empty package that just depends on python3
[17:21] <Habbie> rapidwave, also, your alias from python to python3 could break things; i suggest removing it
[17:23] <gerep> Habbie, found the problem, I am using Sophos antivirus and disabling its on-demand scan fixed the problem. sudo /opt/sophos-av/bin/savdctl disable
[17:23] <Habbie> gerep, ah!
[17:25] <leftyfb> hitech95: Ubuntu 19.04 will be EOL next month.
[17:27] <hitech95> leftyfb I know thats why i moved from 18.04 to 19.04 and then my idea was to move to 19.10. But now i'm stuck. Looks like kernel 5.X is having some issues with my hardware and some modules don't print debug strings anymore. so I have no idea on where the problem is!
[17:28] <leftyfb> hitech95: what hardware is failing to function that is disallowing you to upgrade to 19.10?
[17:28] <leftyfb> hitech95: btw, 18.04 is supported until 2023
[17:28] <hitech95> Touchpad, touchsreen.
[17:28] <hitech95> Yea I know that it is LTS I was hoping to upgrade to solve some hwdecoding issue I'm facing
[17:30] <leftyfb> hitech95: do you have a keyboard?
[17:30] <hitech95> leftyfb, yea
[17:30] <leftyfb> hitech95: then a touchscreen is not necessary to upgrade from 19.04 to 19.10
[17:31] <hitech95> leftyfb yea but I wont that my hw works correctly not having half og the peripherals working. And so far i don't have tested other stuff. Hope audio works too.
[17:32] <hitech95> The problem looks related to the kernel 5.x.x
[17:32] <leftyfb> hitech95: getting anything working in 19.04 is completely pointless if the plan is to upgrade to 19.10 immediately (it should be )
[17:33] <hitech95> At this point my idea was to troubleshoot the problem of kernel 5.x.x and keep the LTS. (Also 18.04 with bakported kenel 5 have the same issues)
[17:34] <leftyfb> hitech95: ok, then re-install 18.04
[17:35] <hitech95> leftyfb, yup. But I still want to figure out where the problem is. Why if i set the kenel log level to 7 and I remove/load a module that is printing on module init nothing comes out to the dmesg?
[17:39] <OerHeks> how do you tell it is related to kernel 5.x ?
[17:42] <hitech95> OerHeks, I have installed kernel 5 some month ago on 18.04 and I was facing the same issues. I revert back to 4.17.x. Ubuntu 19 is shipped with kernel 5.X.
[17:45] <OerHeks> maybe 5.2.x in 19.10 performs better .. dunno if i should ask what issues
[17:48] <hitech95> OerHeks, no its something that has broken somewhere between 4.17 and 5.0.0. Also IIO stuff is not loaded anymore.
[17:53] <hitech95> Is the kernel built with the DEBUG flag?
[18:02] <Seveas> hitech95: grep CONFIG_DEBUG /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[18:10] <hitech95> Seveas, yeas it has been built with teh debug verbose. No idea why some modules fails withou any error.
[19:24] <FurretUber> Hi, I'm having a problem when booting Ubuntu with live media: it is mounting all swap partitions automatically, making dd operations fail. Is there a way to make the live media boot without enabling any swap partitions?
[19:26] <lordcirth> FurretUber, not sure, but you can just run 'swapoff -a'
[19:29] <tomreyn> booting with "noswap" may also work
[19:29] <tomreyn> !bootparam
[19:30] <tomreyn> !kernelparm
[19:56] <FurretUber> tomreyn: noswap didn't work. I'm reading the kernel’s command-line parameters page and I'm surprised there is seemingly no option to disable swap at boot level :/
[19:57] <tomreyn> this would be a distribution specific initrd option, not a kernel option, since i don't think the kernel would activate any swap it can grasp by itself.
[20:21] <HelveTux> Hello
[20:22] <HelveTux> How can I make Ubuntu forget the password of an external disk that has been ejected?
[20:22] <HelveTux> If I insert the disk again, it can be mounted without any password. How can this behaviour changed please?
[20:31] <ioria> HelveTux, have you tried 'gnome-keyring-daemon -r ' ?
[20:42] <HelveTux> ioria, Thanks for suggestiong. Isn't that going to frop all passwords and not only the one for the drive I just ejected?
[20:42] <HelveTux> suggesting*
[21:00] <tomreyn> HelveTux: you should be able to use the "seahorse" application to manage cached keys (and passwords)
[21:06] <HelveTux> tomreyn, Thank you, I've tried this but no pasword seems to be stored there in my case.
[21:06] <tomreyn> HelveTux: maybe my info is outdated. i'm just looking at how it's done nowadays
[21:08] <HelveTux> tomreyn, I found this information too and tried it. I installed seahorse and had a look into it but there are no passwords stored... looks like it's stored somewhere else now... By the way, I'm using ubuntu-mate, but as far as I understood, it uses gnome-keyring as standard ubuntu.
[21:10] <tomreyn> i read that you can use the "secret-tool" software which is part of the "libsecret" package to access and manipulate password stores from a CLI. but it requires you to specify which schema you are looking in, and what you are looking for, so that's not too helpful.
[21:11] <HelveTux> ... yes, I also saw that info and told me that maybe there was some more direct way to do the trick ;)
[21:11] <HelveTux> in my mind, if I eject an encrypted disk, the passphrase should be "forgotten" automatically.
[21:12] <HelveTux> for sure can it be trickled from some option somewhere ;) for now could'nt find where...
[21:15] <HelveTux> tomreyn, even unmounting the device from CLI and closing the device (cryptsetup close <device>) doesn't make the password cleared from cache. If I click on the icon in caja, the disk can be remounted without asking for a password.
[21:15] <tomreyn> on gnome you have three options: (1) forget password right away, (2) cache password during the current gnome session, (3) store password forever
[21:16] <HelveTux> yes, but on my system, I can't remember it asking me about this remember thing... maybe a bug... but it's almost certain that it can be reactivated or that the password can be "force-dropped" from cache...
[21:17] <sixwheeledbeast^> I assume it's managed by the program your using, I have never had this.
[21:17] <sixwheeledbeast^> do you have something like gnome-keyring-caja ?
[21:17] <HelveTux> I'm pretty sure it's a functionnality that has been implemented, nut I can't find any documentation about it...
[21:17] <tomreyn> maybe you have "Passwords and Keys"
[21:17] <OerHeks> Data in memory (“Remember password until you logout”) is present in the memory of the gnome-keyring-daemon process
[21:18] <OerHeks> so, not seahorse itself
[21:18] <OerHeks> gnome-keyring-daemon -r reset the passphrase prompt
[21:18] <OerHeks> https://askubuntu.com/questions/615408/how-to-disable-remember-forever-option-in-mounting-encrypted-disks/724766
[21:20] <HelveTux> sixwheeledbeast^, OerHeks , thank you for joining the discussion :)
[21:20] <HelveTux> sixwheeledbeast^, no, no gnome-keyring-caja
[21:21] <Nyle> Hello, I need to install mariadb 5.5 on ubuntu 18 LTS. I can't seem to figure out a way.
[21:21] <sixwheeledbeast^> I suppose it forgets if you logout of the user session
[21:21] <Nyle> Does anyone have any idea where to get the packages
[21:22] <HelveTux> sixwheeledbeast^, yes for sure... but the idea (in my mind) is that if I eject the drive, it's password should be immediately forgotten. Or I shoul be in capacity of discarding it. I'll try the -r option
[21:22] <sixwheeledbeast^> Nyle: https://mariadb.com/kb/en/library/installing-mariadb-deb-files/
[21:22] <OerHeks> only trusty gives 5.5, https://launchpad.net/maria
[21:22] <Nyle> sixwheeledbeast^: I read that, I did everything
[21:22] <Nyle> http://sfo1.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/5.5/ubuntu/ went to many different urls repositories
[21:22] <OerHeks> i think you will have issues porting that back to 18.04
[21:22] <Nyle> browsing around
[21:23] <sixwheeledbeast^> HelveTux: It seem like it defaults to
[21:23] <sixwheeledbeast^> that
[21:23] <Nyle> hmm
[21:23] <tomreyn> mariadb 5.5 is stone age, you'll probably need to build this yourself.
[21:23] <sixwheeledbeast^> if you have seahorse can you change it
[21:24] <Nyle> ok
[21:24] <Nyle> I am on the wrong distro anyway
[21:24] <Nyle> I think they have centos, I mistakenly thought of ubuntu
[21:24] <Nyle> I have to try to replicate their production env here in dev in a vm
[21:25] <Nyle> blah.
[21:25] <Nyle> thanks anyway
[21:25] <OerHeks> production servers on 5.5, sure
[21:25] <HelveTux> OerHeks, I'm going to test the -r option but don't understand something :
[21:26] <HelveTux> according from the man of gnome-keyring-daemon, thhe -r option is to replace the daemon, not to reset the dialog. Does it do the same thing?
[21:28] <tomreyn> if the running daemon process is what caches the password in RAM, and you restart (replace) the dameon, then it should release the RAM and the new process should have forgotten those passwords
[21:29] <HelveTux> yes, and all other passwords ?
[21:29] <HelveTux> cross fingers and try...
[21:30] <tomreyn> any permanently stored passwords should be manageable via "Passwords and Keys" (which i think is 'seahorse')
[21:30] <sixwheeledbeast^> HelveTux: Look in Caja for Preferences Extensions, there is a option to uncheck libcaja-seahorse.
[21:33] <orionp> I'm attempting a auto-install or kickstart install of Ubuntu 16.04 for the first time and I'm having trouble.  The network isn't getting activated.  This is being started via virt-install.  Is there some boot parameter I need to pass to get the network brought up?
[21:35] <zigggggy> Hi! I am installing 18.04.3 on a vps and i am at the filesystem setup screen
[21:35] <HelveTux> sixwheeledbeast^, yes, I found it. Disabled it, but the disk still can be remounted without password.
[21:35] <zigggggy> do i want to "use an entire disk" or should i set it up manually?
[21:35] <sixwheeledbeast^> hmm
[21:35] <zigggggy> i want encryption on this disk so i think i have to use lvm, right?
[21:37] <HelveTux> OerHeks, tried the gnome-keyring-daemon -r but did not change anything
[21:37] <HelveTux> strange
[21:42] <tomreyn> HelveTux: as a last resort, those key rings should be physically stored at ~/.local/share/keyrings
[21:52] <sixwheeledbeast^> maybe if you delete the key the fact you have the option in caja uncheck will stop it saving.
[22:04] <umbSublime> Hi there, I'm having issues installing steam on ubuntu 18.04. A found a related bug it's resolved and the package version listed in it doens't work https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/steam/+bug/1752198 Does anyone know a way around this
[22:04] <umbSublime> I'm on a fresh install
[22:07] <Bashing-om> !info steam bionic
[22:16] <umbSublime> Bashing-om: yup that's the version giving me the exact same symptoms as the linked bugreport
[22:17] <umbSublime> Candidate: 1:1.0.0.54+repack-5ubuntu1
[22:19] <Bashing-om> umbSublime: Sorry; was the only thought I had that you did not have the "repacked" version installed. :(
[22:23] <tomreyn> umbSublime: how did you install, what's the error message or unexpected behavior?
[22:24] <umbSublime> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CS85PCBDsT/
[22:25] <mort> Trying to install gimp 2.99 from https://launchpad.net/~otto-kesselgulasch/+archive/ubuntu/gimp-edge, but even after adding the ppa, even though the ppa contains gimp 2.99.1, and after `sudo apt update`, trying to install gimp still just installs the regular 2.10.8 version. What's up with that?
[22:25] <umbSublime> I've done `sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386`, but no change
[22:25] <tomreyn> umbSublime: ok, this answers the second of my questions
[22:27] <umbSublime> I know this has nothing to do with my issue , but I've also tried with nouveau driver and nvidia driver
[22:27] <tomreyn> umbSublime: so it remains unclear how exactly you installed. but i can guess, and you probably just need to "sudo apt update && sudo apt -f install"
[22:28] <umbSublime> I'll give the `-f` a shot
[22:28] <umbSublime> All packages are up to date.
[22:28] <tomreyn> mort: which ubuntu version are you on? lsb_release -ds
[22:29] <mort> tomreyn: 19.10
[22:30] <tomreyn> !19.10
[22:30] <tomreyn> there is no "gimp" package in this repository for "Eoan": https://launchpad.net/~otto-kesselgulasch/+archive/ubuntu/gimp-edge?field.series_filter=eoan
[22:32] <mort> tomreyn: huh, strange
[22:32] <umbSublime> tomreyn: I've tried to install with "sudo apt update && sudo apt install steam"
[22:33] <umbSublime> anyhow I have to leave in a few minutes I'll come back here monday about this issue XD
[22:33] <tomreyn> umbSublime: okay, and when you re-run this now, what'S the output (of both these commands)?
[22:33] <umbSublime> 2sec
[22:34] <umbSublime> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/h5FkFWdB52/
[22:35] <umbSublime> leaving now though. I'll be back monday. Thanks for your help
[22:35] <tomreyn> see you
[22:36] <tomreyn> mort: PPAs aren't supported here, but you can try your luck: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=gimp
[22:37] <umbSublime> tomreyn: also this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DGCxXKYhSG/
[22:38] <tomreyn> you can try installing steam-installer
[22:39] <tomreyn> i guess your sources.list is just a mess, though
[23:08] <HelveTux> tomreyn, sixwheeledbeast^ OerHeks Thank you for your help. I'll try to test some more and see if I can find something useful. :)
[23:08] <fuze> I installed windows 10 over kubuntu 19.10 and i am trying to reinstall grub on my efi partition. when i try to mount it i get mount: /mnt/boot/efi: /dev/nvme0n1 already mounted or mount point busy.
[23:10] <fuze> im going to try this in windows https://askubuntu.com/questions/655011/windows-10-upgrade-kills-grub-and-boot-repair-doesnt-help
[23:10] <jeremy31> fuze: that should work
[23:23] <fuze> jeremy31: didnt work for me, should i replace ubuntu with kubuntu in the command?
[23:24] <jeremy31> fuze: no as I think kubuntu uses the same directory.  If you just have a single drive try boot repair with the Live ISO https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#The_graphical_way
[23:31] <fuze> jeremy31: installed using kubuntu live usb and i get "Please use this software in a live-session (live-CD or live-USB). This will enable this feature."
[23:32] <fuze> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kRX3H75JJV/
[23:32] <fuze> according to boot repair its stored at /EFI/BOOT/grubx64.efi actually so BOOT not ubuntu
[23:32] <fuze> ill try in windows using BOOT instead
[23:33] <fuze> or should i use lowercase boot, idk if that matters
[23:33] <jeremy31> fuze: see if you have Legacy/CSM mode enabled in BIOS
[23:36] <fuze> it didnt work :(
[23:36] <fuze> jeremy31: do i need that enabled?
[23:41] <jeremy31> fuze, you should have UEFI only enabled from what I saw
[23:41] <fuze> jeremy31: yes i do
[23:42] <jeremy31> fuze: HP?
[23:42] <fuze> the brand?
[23:42] <jeremy31> fuze, yes
[23:42] <fuze> custom built
[23:43] <jeremy31> fuze: any option in BIOS for OS boot manager or custom EFI file?
[23:43] <fuze> Its ASUS mobo
[23:44] <fuze> I'll check
[23:51] <fuze> jeremy31: nope
[23:52] <jeremy31> fuze, sorry as I have no more ideas