[00:00] <BlueProtoman> Bashing-om: I have the `nvidia-prime` package, I just don't know what the actual program name is
[00:01] <Bashing-om> BlueProtoman: And my communications skills can realy reek :P
[00:03] <BlueProtoman> Bashing-om: To answer your question, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VpDSkGDcxj
[00:09] <Bashing-om> BlueProtoman: As there is "ii  mate-optimus" -we may be at the extent of what I can help with. I have no mate experience.
[00:10] <BlueProtoman> Bashing-om: I think that's just an applet indicator
[00:14] <Bashing-om> BlueProtoman: Beats me - but we can clean the system up a bit more:  dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print $2}' | xargs sudo dpkg -P .
[00:14] <OerHeks> mate-optimus
[00:14] <BlueProtoman> Bashing-om: What does that do?
[00:15] <Bashing-om> BlueProtoman: While there is no built in way to remove all of your configuration information from your removed packages you can remove all configuration data from every removed package. To purge all removed but not yet purged packages, where The state is rc, the package is removed, but the config files are not removed.
[00:17] <BlueProtoman> Bashing-om: So that won't uninstall any software?
[00:17] <kinghat> what is the difference between regular and single here? https://irc.kinghat.info/uploads/4022634ff29542e7/IMG_20191221_181727.jpg
[00:18] <Habbie> kinghat, 'single' boots into single user mode
[00:18] <kinghat> single must be rescue mode
[00:18] <Habbie> kinghat, pretty much yes!
[00:18] <Bashing-om> BlueProtoman: You are most advised to *KNOW* what a command does. Google away :). As stated removes the configfiles of removed programs.
[00:22] <BlueProtoman> Bashing-om: Noted. Thank you.
[00:22] <kinghat> ugh my system is jacked. at least grub super disk got me back in
[00:23] <kinghat> i really dont want to wipe everything and start fresh just to fix grub
[00:29] <kinghat> i just tried boot-repair and it said: "
[00:29] <kinghat> You can now reboot your computer.
[00:29] <kinghat> Please do not forget to make your BIOS boot on sdb1/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi file!"
[00:30] <kinghat> how do i know which that is in bios as i have a few entries in there that im sure are just borked/old/unused
[00:32] <OerHeks> interesting, normally one would have 1 efi partition on the sda drive.
[00:33] <kinghat> i have many drives. this OS probably wasnt the first.
[00:36] <kinghat> none of my BIOS options work
[00:36] <kinghat> 😥
[00:39] <kinghat> so now my super grub USB won't load
[00:39] <kinghat> incredible obstacles
[00:41] <kinghat> https://irc.kinghat.info/uploads/511eda55982c3467/IMG_20191221_184055.jpg
[00:46] <kinghat> can't I just remove grub and whatever and just boot to the OS directly?
[00:47] <kinghat> then I can wipe and reinstall the OS later when I have time?
[00:49] <nikolam> Ever since I have put my SSD with Xubuntu 19.10 into machine with AMD 7850 graphics card, I can't make it work after normal booting, but only after going into recovery and mounting root and setting network.
[00:49] <nikolam> Then I only get 1024X768 and no radeon nor amdgpu driver working
[00:50] <nikolam> I were previously using same card, then for some time used intel integrated cards and would like to get back using amd card again.
[00:53] <ALi3naTEd0> I need some help with XRDP... I'm trying to connect with Windows 10 RDP into a fresh Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS installation/machine... been trying this for months now without success, have tried like more than 20 guides on the internet without success... I'll really appreciate some help since I'm kinda new to Linux, Thanks!!!
[00:53] <dzragon> i remember back in 2001 when i ran an nvidia 2 gts and had 100fps in cs 1.3, then i bought amd equiv because my gts died on me after electric outtage, bought new parts, and got myself an amd, equiv of geforce 2 gts, according to sites like Sweclockers and Tomshardware. Well, booted into a fresh install of windows, installed drivers for amd, and started Counter-Strike. Had below 10 fps, up to
[00:53] <dzragon> 15, game could hardly run. No driver fixes came out fast enough. That was my first and last ever try with AMD.
[00:53] <dzragon> unless NVIDIA would show similar problems in some future card ofc
[00:55] <dzragon> to me putting anything called AMD in a PC is like buying a Fiat vs an Ferrari
[00:55] <dzragon> could ofc enjoy both rides
[00:55] <dzragon> depending on what you want out of it
[00:57] <nikolam> I AMD has open drivers. That should end AMD vs Nvidia.
[00:58] <nikolam> I have now found about switcheroo-control that uses environmental variables to run only certainf apps with faster 3D capablke card and resto of the show by default with integrated graphics. Sounds like wnat I need, except the need to tincle with variables per APP
[01:04] <dzragon> nikolam yes in most cases it would, to me, this is just me and my personal oppinion of amd, nothing to do with anyone elses oppinion, but to me, that amd has open drivers is like a Vazz Lada or Fiat having open free service or something and Ferrari having an expensive service. Id still take a Ferrari over a Vaz Lada any day.....its not a good comparison, but the best i can muster. You go with AMD, i stick with NVIDIA, some like
[01:04] <dzragon> apples another a pear, whos to say which is the best for someone else. Im convinced NVIDIA is best for me. And for those reasons.
[01:05] <nikolam> it's not about opinions, it's about technical support for ubuntu users.
[01:06] <nikolam> And this user is not using your card.
[01:06] <dzragon> hehe sorry nikolam, nvm me
[01:07] <dzragon> merry xmas btw
[01:09] <ALi3naTEd0> help with xrdp please?
[01:09] <tomreyn> dzragon: see if you have something amd-like (radeon, amdgpu, fglrx) blacklisted in /etc/mod*
[01:10] <tomreyn> oh this actually was for nikolam ^ sorry
[01:10] <nikolam> ALi3naTEd0, I haven't been using XRDP for some time.. after I discovered ssh -X Sorry that didn't answer your question yet.
[01:11] <ALi3naTEd0> :(
[01:11] <ALi3naTEd0> thanks anyway nikolam
[01:11] <matlock> ALi3naTEd0 There are several guides available. Is there a specific step you are having a problem with?
[01:11] <nikolam> tomreyn, tomreyn could be, let me take a look
[01:12] <ALi3naTEd0> I have tried more than 20 guides without success
[01:12] <OerHeks> ALi3naTEd0, some tips 'troubleshooting'. https://websiteforstudents.com/connect-from-windows-10-to-ubuntu-18-10-18-04-16-04-with-xrdp-rremote-desktop-protocol-rdp/
[01:13] <ALi3naTEd0> I've tried that
[01:13] <OerHeks> then i guess it is a windows issue, some antivirus something?
[01:13] <ALi3naTEd0> the blue windows hangs in there
[01:13] <pragmaticenigma> ALi3naTEd0, what would help, is you told us what the problem is... I know that I'm not capable of telepathy yet
[01:14] <nikolam> tomreyn, Threre's blacklist radeonfb in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer.conf , don't know if it is related
[01:14] <ALi3naTEd0> no antivirus
[01:14] <pragmaticenigma> ALi3naTEd0, details of what you have tried, what commands you are using, etc... all of that would help us to help you figure out what might not be working
[01:14] <ALi3naTEd0> when I try to connect on windows via RDP to the machine, RDP gets stuck at a bluescreen pragmaticenigma
[01:15] <matlock> ALi3naTEd0: Xrdp is properly pre-configured on the Ubuntu images in the Hyper-V Quick Create gallery, you could take a look at those
[01:15] <tomreyn> nikolam: radeonfb blacklisting is by default, should be fine
[01:15] <pragmaticenigma> matlock, This is XRDP client, not server
[01:15] <ALi3naTEd0> don't understand matlock
[01:15] <nikolam> I'll try rebooting and put display over Intel graphics, to see if switcheroo package helps
[01:16] <tomreyn> nikolam: show a complete    journalctl -b   from when you boot normally and it falls back to vesa (low resolution / performance)
[01:17] <tomreyn> nikolam: you'd want to use DRI_PRIME and / or xrandr --set-provider for switching, not vga switcheroo, i'd think
[01:20] <nikolam> tomreyn, it starts booting and display distribution logo, but then only displays.. scanning disks and that's it.
[01:20] <nikolam> tomreyn, ok uninstalled switcheroo
[01:21] <tomreyn> nikolam: so show a log for a default boot where it's failing. when it stops booting, try ctrl-alt-del, or if this doesn'T work, sysrq-SUB. then, after rebooting to graphical mode,  post     journalctl -b -1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[01:24] <ALi3naTEd0> here pragmaticenigma https://pastebin.com/6s42GQMs
[01:24] <ALi3naTEd0> I just did that, rebooting
[01:24] <ALi3naTEd0> and trying again
[01:25] <nikolam> [drm:radeon_init [radeon]] *ERROR* No UMS support in radeon module and [drm:amdgpu_init [amdgpu]] *ERROR* VGACON disables amdgpu kernel modesetting. https://pastebin.com/cL46Zshv
[01:26] <ALi3naTEd0> holy cow, it connected but got stuck asking me my password on linux machine don't know why
[01:27] <ALi3naTEd0> now I get this message like most of the times I have tired.... https://i.imgur.com/HOC9Wms.png
[01:27] <ALi3naTEd0> so it's not working....
[01:27] <tomreyn> nikolam: this is not a log of a standard boot. it's a recovery boot
[01:28] <pragmaticenigma> ALi3naTEd0, why aren't you using the already included Remote Desktop viewer app?
[01:28] <nikolam> ALi3naTEd0, maybe local X server is set to accept only connections from local host? (me just guessing)
[01:29] <nikolam> tomreyn, yes, let me reboot and see if I get picture on intel graphics instead, if there no one on amd side
[01:29] <ALi3naTEd0> ok I noticed the problem is I have to put the username in lowercase
[01:30] <ALi3naTEd0> now I'm stuck here: https://i.imgur.com/t3z0wPW.png pragmaticenigma
[01:30] <ALi3naTEd0> remote desktop viewer?
[01:32] <ALi3naTEd0> remote desktop viewer is to see windows on linux, I'm trying the other way around....
[01:33] <annocent> so there are RDP daemons for linux now?
[01:33] <ALi3naTEd0> or do you mean this? https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/microsoft-remote-desktop/9wzdncrfj3ps?activetab=pivot:overviewtab
[01:34] <tomreyn> now and for the past 10 or so years
[01:35] <annocent> so you can access your whole X11 session, over RDP, really?
[01:36] <tomreyn> * 15 years
[01:38] <nikolam> tomreyn, thanks for suggestions, I managed now to boot regularly, system were putting output only to Intel graphics.
[01:38] <nikolam> https://pastebin.com/CVfqWWDY
[01:39] <nikolam> Did not put lightdm on console 7, but I logged in on intel graphics on console 1 and did startx
[01:40] <nikolam> I bet other graphics is disabled somewhere in the system..
[01:40] <pragmaticenigma> ALi3naTEd0, since you haven't told me or this channel what exactly you're trying to do... I'm giving up. you need to provide all the details about what you are trying to do, what are all the parts that are involved, configurations that you have setup, etc...
[01:40] <tomreyn> nikolam: can you boot without vt.handoff=7, too?
[01:41] <ALi3naTEd0> sorry if I wasn't clear....
[01:41] <tomreyn> nikolam: i'd really like to know whether a default boot works
[01:41] <nikolam> tomreyn, great, let me.
[01:42] <ALi3naTEd0> my current machine is a windows 10, but I have an old machine where I'm trying to use linux and connect via RDP with my windows machine to that machine with ubuntu pragmaticenigma
[01:43] <annocent> why not use vnc over ssh, ALi3naTEd0
[01:43] <ALi3naTEd0> idk what's that
[01:45] <ALi3naTEd0> in fact after "connecting" with rdp, ubuntu installation breaks... uh!
[01:46] <ALi3naTEd0> have to re-install...
[01:47] <tomreyn> doubt it
[01:47] <pragmaticenigma> annocent, if they're on the same network, there is no reason to tunnel
[01:49] <pragmaticenigma> ALi3naTEd0, While RDP is possible. It's not as well implemented as other alternatives such as VNC. VNC is simply an alternative to RDP. Ubuntu Desktop comes preset to allow VNC remote desktop sessions
[01:49] <annocent> assuming everyone with access to that network are friends, yes. That's not always the case. Might be spies on the line, and on his local network
[01:50] <ALi3naTEd0> what do I use to connect to a linux machine via VNC? virtualbox or something like that?
[01:51] <pragmaticenigma> ALi3naTEd0, there are a bunch of different clients. TightVNC is a popular choice, RealVNC, UltraVNC are also alternative VNC vieweres
[01:56] <nikolam> tomreyn, https://pastebin.com/WdvxYsAE
[01:58] <tomreyn> nikolam: ah, you made it. i'll check the log shortly and get back to you. in the meantime have a look at your bios version: "Hewlett-Packard HP ProDesk 600 G1 TWR/18E7, BIOS L01 v02.05 06/10/2013" (taken from your log) and the latest available one: https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/hp-prodesk-600-g1-tower-pc/5387438
[01:58] <tomreyn> better link: https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/swdetails/hp-prodesk-600-g1-tower-pc/5387438/swItemId/vc-229760-1
[01:59] <tomreyn> you're on the oldest one there is
[02:06] <tomreyn> nikolam: there's no X initialization on your log. which systemd target doyou boot to by default?
[02:15] <tomreyn> nikolam: looks like you're no longer around. if you want to diagnose this further later, i'd still like to see the log of a default boot (2nd reminder ;-) ), i.e. to graphical desktop if you use this as a desktop. so set the systemd default target to its default value, consider using gdm unless you're on a different ubuntu flavor which defaults to lightdm, and re-post the log. starting X using startx is not necessarily the same, so this may just
[02:15] <tomreyn> not work for you.
[03:06] <hexando> qq all
[04:58] <chamar> Howdy.  Anyone using the Vanilla Gnome? I was wondering if it gets updated the same way the "Ubuntu" gnome does or if the packaged a lagging a bit behind?
[05:17] <raziel_> Hello, anyone here?
[05:17] <ryuo> raziel_: nope.
[05:18] <Bashing-om> raziel_: Just Us chickens
[05:18] <raziel_> lol, I'm trying to install nvidia drivers in linux mint 19.3. What would be the best server for help
[05:18] <Bashing-om> !mint | raziel_
[05:18] <ryuo> raziel_: unofficial derivatives are not supported here. they're over on spotchat.
[05:19] <ryuo> raziel_: hexchat on LM is preconfigured to connect to their support.
[05:19] <raziel_> Sorry, I'm a bit of a noob.
[05:20] <Bashing-om> raziel_: All in that process of learning :)
[05:20] <raziel_> Thanks guys. See ya later ;)
[06:39] <AMD_39501> hello
[06:40] <Vooloo> snap is a failure. Why do I need to copy config files to /etc manually. Ugh.
[07:05] <martian67> telnet postcard.sfconservancy.org 2333
[08:28] <foofighter> Hi
[08:29] <foofighter> anyone know how to get past: "It is not possible to reset this account's password." on Ubuntu login SSO?
[08:33] <ducasse> foofighter: we don't support the websites, only the os
[08:33] <foofighter> ok, do you know who to ask for the SSO?
[08:34] <ducasse> i think there is a channel, but can't recall the name. you can search with alis
[08:35] <ducasse> there we arem #ubuntu-website
[08:35] <ducasse> foofighter: ^^
[08:44] <foofighter> thanks
[08:45] <coder486> Hi
[08:50] <coder486> Can i install Ubuntu on my windows laptop ?
[08:53] <b3twiise_> you might wanna tryubunto?
[10:11] <corshmock> What vm software is everyone using?  I need to create two or three vms. Virtualbox is not working for me and kvm has also given me issues.  Is there anything else I can use for this?  Host is Ubuntu 18.04
[10:25] <elias_a> corshmock: I use Virtualbox. :/
[10:26] <aiena> forgive me - this is offtopic but where do I ask snap related questions?
[10:27] <corshmock> Thanks elias_a, but Virtualbox is giving me major problems
[10:28] <aiena> corshmock: what isues do you have with virtualbox?
[10:29] <sixwheeledbeast^> aiena: #snapcraft
[10:29] <aiena> thanks sixwheeledbeast^
[10:29] <sixwheeledbeast^> or #snappy
[10:30] <aiena> ok
[10:33] <CoolerZ> is 7zip available for ubuntu 18.04?
[10:33] <corshmock> aiena: I think the install of Red Hat and Centos are having gpu issues
[10:33] <sixwheeledbeast^> Why would you need 7zip?
[10:34] <CoolerZ> because I have a .7z file
[10:34] <aiena> oh hmm corshmock yeah virtualbox especially if compiled by you can be a pain when there are proprietary GPU drivers involved like nvidia etc.
[10:34] <corshmock> https://imgur.com/a/XlQZfMC
[10:35] <CoolerZ> I installed p7zip-full and now the archive manager can open it
[10:35] <corshmock> The strange thing is Centos was working perfectly on this same machine as host yesterday.  I installed Ubuntu and tried to create vms and that was when the issues started
[10:36] <IaMnEwHeRe> corshmock, may I ask what the problems are VB is causing you?
[10:36] <corshmock> Hi IaMnEwHeRe
[10:36] <corshmock> Can you see the pastebin I just posted?
[10:36] <IaMnEwHeRe> nope,
[10:36] <corshmock> https://imgur.com/a/XlQZfMC
[10:37] <aiena> corshmock: hmm so this happens when the VM is started
[10:37] <corshmock> It happens on about the last fifth of the installation
[10:37] <aiena> does this happen for all VMs even with ubuntu ISO's
[10:37] <corshmock> I've only tried Red Hat and Centos because I need them for a course
[10:38] <corshmock> Has anyone used Xen Project?
[10:38] <aiena> corshmock: you could try using KVM then instead of virtualbox
[10:38] <aiena> i.e. the linux's kernel built in virtualisation.
[10:38] <IaMnEwHeRe> corshmock, have you restart ubuntu after installing VirtualBox?
[10:39] <IaMnEwHeRe> also try to install guest-extensions
[10:39] <corshmock> I was using KVM last week, but it started creating these 'pools' which I could not delete, and they were taking up a lot of diskspace.  Even when I uninstalled KVM, the pools and the program were still there
[10:39] <IaMnEwHeRe>  do you really need a GUI , if a terminal is all you need, vagrant might be a viable alternative
[10:39] <aiena> IaMnEwHeRe: usually guest-additions are installed into the guest it seems he can't get the gurst os to fully install without encountering this bug
[10:39] <corshmock> IaMnEwHeRe: I'm not sure now.
[10:40] <IaMnEwHeRe> aiena, I assume the GuestOS is fully installed, otherwise he would see a boot-error, terminal output
[10:40] <corshmock> vagrant?  I can check it out.  Has anyone used Xen Project?
[10:41] <corshmock> Guest OS seems to be working fine
[10:41] <aiena> corshmock: hmm try to resolve the KVM problems if you can and use that if the OSs booted fine then
[10:41] <IaMnEwHeRe> btw vagrant usually uses VBox, but it also be a front for Xen, docker, podman(?), and KVM
[10:42] <aiena> corshmock: hmm so you can get to the terminal of the guest OS but in gui mode you get those green bars?
[10:42] <corshmock> Yeah aiena I think there might be a command to get rid of the pools so maybe that's the way to go.
[10:42] <aiena> corshmock: did you read https://www.tecmint.com/manage-kvm-storage-volumes-and-pools/
[10:42] <corshmock> aiena: no it won't fully install
[10:44] <corshmock> No aiena but I'll read it now thanks
[10:44] <aiena> this may help you to clear your pools
[10:44] <aiena> and better manage the vm storage space allocated
[10:44] <aiena> try to work with kvm if you can
[10:46] <corshmock> aiena: will do.  I think someone said there is an actual command to get rid of pools?  Just reading your doc now.
[10:46] <aiena> corshmock: commands abound but usually GUIs are a bit easier
[10:47] <aiena> commands are good when the gui is not capable of doing what you want or you are an advanced user willing to mess up
[10:48] <nikolam> tomreyn, thank you for your follow-op. That was regular boot, with monitor attached to Intel graphics and there is lightdm running on VT7, but no picture , and i can switch consoles, and yes, start startx. Seems like truly additional AMD graphics is somewhere turned off. I'll see with BIOS update on dual-boot and see if that helps.
[11:04] <Cooler> anyone here?
[11:04] <QuarxSiO2> just ask
[11:05] <Cooler> if I am using openvpn do I still need to use the system vpn config
[11:05] <Cooler> ?
[11:05] <IaMnEwHeRe> what is system vpn config?
[11:05] <Cooler> if you go into settings > network > VPN
[11:05] <IaMnEwHeRe> usually you can put your vpn-configuration into /etc/openvpn/client and start/manage it via systemd
[11:05] <Cooler> you can configure a vpn using a config file
[11:05] <IaMnEwHeRe> it all depends on how you manage your connection
[11:06] <IaMnEwHeRe> NM i don't know, I use the cli, either systemd or openvpn --config ...path...
[11:06] <Cooler> yeah me too
[11:06] <Cooler> sudo openvpn --config foo.ovpn
[11:06] <IaMnEwHeRe> then stay on the cli and switch over to  systemd
[11:07] <IaMnEwHeRe> at least that is what I ddi
[11:07] <Cooler> what is systemd?
[11:07] <IaMnEwHeRe> man systemd
[11:07] <Cooler> is that for running stuff on boot?
[11:07] <IaMnEwHeRe> depends on how you define "on boot"
[11:08] <IaMnEwHeRe> it is an improved init-system, lots of flamewars around that one, almost religious
[11:08] <Cooler> so what is the point of the settings > network > VPN
[11:08] <Cooler> ?
[11:09] <IaMnEwHeRe> different path to achiving your goal, boils down to workflows and taste
[11:09] <Cooler> but openvpn has its own protocol
[11:09] <Cooler> I don't think giving the foo.ovpn file to ubuntu will work
[11:10] <Cooler> anyway
[11:10] <IaMnEwHeRe> read up on systemd and you will understand, it is basically managing other programs
[11:10] <Cooler> do you get this warning? Unrecognized option or missing or extra parameter(s) in client-do.ovpn:13: block-outside-dns (2.4.4)
[11:11] <IaMnEwHeRe> nope, my configuration-files have no formatting-problem, that sounds like s.th. you want to ask over at #openvpn
[11:11] <corshmock> When I try to su - I get authentication failure.  I installed Ubuntu yesterday and went for erase disk, but it never asked me to enter a root password?
[11:12] <Cooler> IaMnEwHeRe, formatting problem?
[11:12] <IaMnEwHeRe> corshmock on ubuntu you want to use sudo
[11:12] <IaMnEwHeRe> for su to work root needs to have a password set
[11:12] <Cooler> there are these 2 lines in the .ovpn file
[11:12] <Cooler> ignore-unknown-option block-outside-dns
[11:12] <Cooler> block-outside-dns
[11:13] <IaMnEwHeRe> Cooler go over to #openvpn
[11:13] <Cooler> ok
[11:13] <Cooler> IaMnEwHeRe, how are you blocking DNS?
[11:14] <Cooler> https://askubuntu.com/questions/946572/options-error-unrecognized-option-or-missing-parameters-in-push-options1
[11:14] <Cooler> script-security 2
[11:14] <Cooler> up /etc/openvpn/update-resolv-conf
[11:14] <Cooler> down /etc/openvpn/update-resolv-conf
[11:14] <Cooler> like that?
[11:14] <corshmock> Thanks IaMnEwHeRe, how do I get to /etc/network/interfaces
[11:14]  * IaMnEwHeRe ignores Cooler
[11:14] <Cooler> there aren't that many people around now that it's almost christmas
[11:14] <IaMnEwHeRe> corshmock what do you mean?
[11:17] <corshmock> It's okay IaMnEwHeRe, I got it.  I'm following instructions to install kvm
[11:17] <IaMnEwHeRe> :+1:
[11:43] <ramsub07> hello, i'm trying to install some packages and i receive these unmet dependencies errror, https://pastebin.com/Csheqagv
[11:43] <ramsub07> how do I fix them?
[11:49] <IaMnEwHeRe> ramsub07, apt update before the install?
[11:49] <ramsub07> IaMnEwHeRe i tried it. didn't work
[11:52] <IaMnEwHeRe> have you explicitely intalled/locked certain packages?
[11:52] <ramsub07> IaMnEwHeRe https://pastebin.com/0cUcQuzC this is the chain of outputs
[11:53] <ramsub07> IaMnEwHeRe what do you mean by explicit installation? I don't remember locking any packages
[11:54] <IaMnEwHeRe> PPA or explicit version(dunno about the last one but it mightbe that apt does not update it then) however see here https://askubuntu.com/questions/671791/lib32stdc6-package-depends-on-gcc-base-but-my-installed-version-is-newer
[11:58] <ramsub07> i think it's the case of a deleted PPA IaMnEwHeRe
[11:59] <IaMnEwHeRe> :+1:
[12:11] <EriC^^> ramsub07: try apt-cache policy gcc-8-base
[12:11] <EriC^^> it shoudl show from where it's wanting to install 8.3 version
[12:12] <ramsub07> EriC^^ : http://dpaste.com/0VTK3B4
[12:13] <EriC^^> !info gcc-8-base bionic
[12:14] <EriC^^> ramsub07: it seems like you're supposed to have 8.3, wonder why it wants 8.2
[12:15] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:15] <EriC^^> ramsub07: what's apt-cache policy lib32stdc++6 give?
[12:17] <IaMnEwHeRe> BluesKaj, hi there, reading your name I also feel blue , -.-' :D
[12:19] <ramsub07> EriC^^ http://dpaste.com/0H6PQ0Z
[12:24] <corshmock> Does anyone know anything about bridging for KVM?  I followed a tutorial but after reboot, I couldn't access the internet
[12:24] <corshmock> https://linuxconfig.org/install-and-set-up-kvm-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[12:24] <corshmock> Maybe someone could tell me where I've gone wrong?
[12:25] <corshmock> /etc/network/interfaces
[12:25] <corshmock> auto lo br0 (br0 added as per the link above
[12:25] <corshmock> iface lo inet loopback (no change here)
[12:26] <corshmock> iface enp12s0 inet manual (at least I think enp12s0 is my interface - I could be wrong)
[12:26] <corshmock> iface br0 inet dhcp (added as per link above)
[12:27] <corshmock> bridge_ports enp12s0 ( added as per link above)
[12:27] <corshmock> That's it
[12:31] <imi> hi. I have an usb c to ethernet adapter, plugged into an usbc to usb3 adapter, plugged into an usb3 hub, plugged into my computer :) now into this usb hub there are several other things plugged in (usb 1 HID, and usb 3 as well). however somethimes when I boot up this machine the ethernet port does not work. my solution to this is to unplug and reattach the usbc to usb3 adapter to the hub. is there a software workaround? for instance is
[12:31] <imi> there a "detach and reattach this device" shell command?
[12:44] <cariveri> Hi. how to tell if a third party repo is trusworthy? for instance, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cubic-wizard/release
[12:45] <corshmock> twice I've tried to edit /etc/network/interfaces and twice after reboot, I couldn't get back on the internet.
[12:45] <corshmock> Can anyone recommend a good document?
[12:46] <corshmock> To create a bridge for KVM?
[12:49] <ioria> cariveri, idk really, but if well updated and wide used, you can think it is
[12:50] <ioria> corshmock, https://www.linuxtechi.com/install-configure-kvm-ubuntu-18-04-server/
[12:50] <corshmock> Thanks ioria
[12:51] <ioria> corshmock, ok
[12:52] <ramsub07> IaMnEwHeRe thanks a lot that error doesn't occur anymore
[12:54] <IaMnEwHeRe> :+1:
[12:56] <ramsub07> further, in the process, i have installed new kernels by running apt-get upgrade . I use dell XPS where the wifi modules aren't compaitable with ubuntu drivers and every time i had a new kernel, I'd have to do this : https://support.killernetworking.com/knowledge-base/killer-ax1650-in-debian-ubuntu-16-04/
[12:57] <ramsub07> I explicitly use older kernels now having grown tired of installing everyime ubuntu upgrades the kernel. how do i permanantly fix it?
[12:58] <IaMnEwHeRe> ramsub07 you lock the package?
[12:59] <ramsub07> IaMnEwHeRe not sure what you mean by it, but maybe i'd have done it ignorantly ?
[12:59] <jeremy31> ramsub07: in terminal>  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:canonical-hwe-team/backport-iwlwifi
[12:59] <IaMnEwHeRe> ramsub07 apt-mark hold
[13:00] <jeremy31> ramsub07: the update on the ax1650 page doesn't work?
[13:00] <corshmock> Wahey!  I think I've got me bridge working!
[13:01] <ramsub07> jeremy31 http://dpaste.com/2RQZ5ZC
[13:01] <tatertots> corshmock: good deal
[13:01] <jeremy31> ramsub07: > dkms status | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:01] <ramsub07> i'm on 5.0.0.31 and the wifi module seems to be working. but ubuntu has installed a few more kernels on top of this, for which the wifi module doesn't work
[13:02] <corshmock> Thanks tatertots.  I'll get this lab set up if it kills me!
[13:02] <ramsub07> jeremy31 was that supposed to return something ?\\
[13:02] <jeremy31> ramsub07: try just> dkms status
[13:03] <ramsub07> jeremy31 http://dpaste.com/1TEFT60
[13:03] <jeremy31> ramsub07: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:canonical-hwe-team/backport-iwlwifi
[13:04] <ramsub07> IaMnEwHeRe i have nothing locked (from apt-mark hold output)
[13:04] <ramsub07> jeremy31 done and also did apt-get update
[13:05] <jeremy31> ramsub07: then> sudo apt-get install backport-iwlwifi-dkms
[13:06] <jeremy31> ramsub07: that command might take some time
[13:12] <proneon267> How do I set a partition name?
[13:13] <proneon267> Not a partition label
[13:13] <proneon267> But a partition name
[13:16] <EriC^^> proneon267: https://superuser.com/questions/1099232/what-is-the-difference-between-a-partition-name-and-a-partition-label
[13:17] <proneon267> EriC^^: but how do I name a partition like what is the command for it?
[13:18] <EriC^^> proneon267: do you have gpt or msdos?
[13:19] <proneon267> I am currently on a live Linux image
[13:19] <corshmock> Unable to complete install: 'Cannot get interface MTU on 'br0': No such device'
[13:20] <corshmock> What do I have to do to just create a simple VM
[13:20] <EriC^^> proneon267: an easy way is to run the program disks and click on the partition -> cog gear and change the filesystem label or if you're using gpt you can click on edit partition and change the label/name
[13:21] <proneon267> File system label doesn't change the partition name
[13:21] <proneon267> I have tried it
[13:21] <helokki> yo
[13:21] <EriC^^> proneon267: type "sudo blkid /dev/sdx" replacing sdx with your disk
[13:22] <EriC^^> is PTTYPE gpt or msdos?
[13:22] <proneon267> Dos
[13:22] <EriC^^> proneon267: then you don't have partition labels only fs labels
[13:22] <jeremy31> ramsub07: has the command finished?
[13:23] <corshmock> KVM is horrible
[13:23] <proneon267> EriC^^:  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/HqAvujXw/irccloudcapture895823182975443281.jpg
[13:24] <proneon267> EriC^^: see partition name is blank but partition label is present
[13:25] <proneon267> EriC^^: I want to set the partition name
[13:27] <tomreyn> proneon267: As EriC already explained, there is no way to store a partition label on an "(ms)dos" (AKA "mbr") partition table. you would need to destroy the partition table, thus all data on the disk, and create a gpt partition table, to be able to set partition labels.
[13:28] <EriC^^> proneon267: read the first link i posted, it explains labels and partition tables
[13:29] <proneon267> Ok but then why is there the partition label?
[13:30] <EriC^^> proneon267: bad gui programming?
[13:30] <proneon267> Oh
[13:30] <proneon267> Anyway thanks for helping
[13:30] <EriC^^> no problem
[13:30] <tomreyn> proneon267: (Only) if you're going to destroy your partition table (and thus all data stored on the disk), replacing it by a GPT one then this becomes possible: On a gpt partitioned storage device named DISK you can assign the name NAME to the existing partition PARTITION using    sudo parted /dev/disk/by-id/DISK -s -- name PARTITION NAME
[13:31] <proneon267> Should I try it anyway?
[13:32] <corshmock> Has anyone had this horrible issue on KVM?  Unable to complete install: 'Cannot get interface MTU on 'br0': No such device'
[13:32] <proneon267> Possible data loss?
[13:33] <corshmock> Please help
[13:33] <tomreyn> proneon267: there's no way it could work, so there's no use in trying, and in risking data loss.
[13:34] <EriC^^> proneon267: it's literally impossible
[13:34] <EriC^^> *shrug*
[13:34] <aiena> corshmock: hmm
[13:34] <corshmock> aiena: I think Linux hates me :)
[13:34] <proneon267> Thanks EriC^^ tomreyn
[13:35] <aiena> corshmock: linux hates and loves everyone its loving and compassionate to those who are patient and loving and compassionate to it only.
[13:35] <aiena> corshmock:  try restarting the libvirtd daemon
[13:35] <aiena> service libvirtd restart
[13:36] <corshmock> service libvirtd restart aiena, yeah I've done that twice
[13:36] <aiena> u know I only use virtualbox because I struggle with KVM myself haha (:
[13:36] <aiena> even though the linux guru's say virtualbox is responsible for a majority of linux kernel bugs ....
[13:37] <aiena> corshmock: googling will eventually help you I think
[13:37] <corshmock> Yeah kvm is really horrible
[13:38] <corshmock> You're making me feel better that you have issues with it too
[13:38] <aiena> I have had my fair share of spending 20 hours trying to troubleshoot certain problems and then sleeping over it to find out rest makes you a genius
[13:38] <corshmock> Well last nights sleep didn't do anything for me.
[13:38] <aiena> kvm needs root priviledges for certain things and that is frustrating
[13:38] <aiena> I dont like living in root land for very long and you know why
[13:39] <corshmock> In case you do damage?
[13:39] <aiena> well that is one reason
[13:39] <aiena> the other reason is setting up the whole distro after a goof up
[13:39] <aiena> build deps etc etc etc.
[13:40] <aiena> serious damage is very rare but in root anything can happen with a small typo
[13:40] <corshmock> I get you
[13:40] <corshmock> I have to rebuild on a regular basis :)
[13:40] <aiena> corshmock: I always keep root and home on separate partitions so rescue is very easy
[13:41] <corshmock> Please don't mention partitions :)
[13:41] <aiena> corshmock: linux is beautiful and terrifying because it gives you ultimate power
[13:42] <aiena> I love it because its so easy to cobble together custom tools for whatever I need.
[13:42] <corshmock> I need to get some vm software working.  Vmware won't do it because I think you can only run one vm at a time
[13:43] <aiena> i think vmware has a baremetal hypervisor too but that time you need 2 machines
[13:43] <corshmock> No use.  Have you ever used xen project?
[13:43] <aiena> one machine to control the baremetal one as all oses run ontop of it
[13:44] <aiena> no
[13:44] <aiena> corshmock: virtualbox has always worked excellently for me so I never had the need to switch
[13:44] <aiena> corshmock: another option for running vm's is by using docker and creating docker containers
[13:45] <aiena> all options are so different though that you need some blood sweat and tears to learn each
[13:45] <aiena> virtualbox is very easy to adopt, kvm and docker work very differently
[13:46] <aiena> you already have done the blood and sweat part with kvm you will eventually succeed I think
[13:46] <ikonia> kvm is an amazing hypervisor, why would you not use it ?
[13:46] <aiena> ikonia: he is using it
[13:47] <aiena> he has just experienced a heavy curtain he is trying to open with it
[13:47] <aiena> perhaps you can help him
[13:47] <ikonia> no idea,
[13:47] <aiena> his query was `Has anyone had this horrible issue on KVM?  Unable to complete install: 'Cannot get interface MTU on 'br0': No such device'`
[13:47] <corshmock> unable to complete install 'cannot get interface mtu on 'br0' no such device'
[13:47] <aiena> it looks like something to do with networking and kvm
[13:47] <ikonia> so the obvious question, is the bridge device there ?
[13:48] <corshmock> ikonia: if you only knew how funny that is
[13:48] <corshmock> KVM has me killed
[13:48] <aiena> relax i think ikonia can help
[13:48] <corshmock> Yes bridged
[13:49] <corshmock> I think he's onto something.  Kill the bridge?
[13:49] <ikonia> kvm is not a bridge
[13:49] <aiena> corshmock: https://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Unable_to_add_bridge_br0_port_vnet0:_No_such_device may help
[13:49] <ikonia> that's nothing to do with kvm
[13:49] <ikonia> is the bridge interface a.) available b.) up
[13:50] <corshmock> Sorry ikonia I dont' now how to check that
[13:50] <corshmock> ip a ?
[13:50] <aiena> yes that can work
[13:50] <ikonia> ok - so lets take one more step back here
[13:51] <ikonia> what are you trying to virtualise and why ?
[13:51] <ikonia> as this could be overkill
[13:51] <corshmock> I'm trying to build a lab for RHCSA
[13:51] <ikonia> ok - so  you don't need a lab yet
[13:51] <corshmock> Well I want to practice
[13:51] <ikonia> if you're not confident doing basic things like checking an interface status a lab is 5 steps away from that
[13:51] <ikonia> you need to get confident with just basic linux operations
[13:51] <corshmock> Okay
[13:52] <corshmock> Should I take the bridge out?
[13:52] <ikonia> I would not be building a lab and looking at an rhca if you're not able to handle basic networking yet
[13:52] <aiena> hmm hold on
[13:52] <ikonia> (just my opinion)
[13:53] <corshmock> I appreciate your opinion ikonia but I've held CCNA, CCNP, CCDA, CCDP, WLANSE not blowing my trumpet but I think Linux / KVM are more the issue than networking
[13:53] <ikonia> you're wrong
[13:54] <ikonia> and if you're confident with ccna/ccnp/ccda you should be more than happy with the concept of network bridging and how to configure it
[13:55] <aiena> corshmock: https://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Unable_to_add_bridge_br0_port_vnet0:_No_such_device please read this
[13:55] <qwebirc95665> hello, i am in the emergency terminal, i disabled secureboot in the bios, can that be the reason why my ubuntu cant boot?
[13:55] <corshmock> I am not familiar with virbr0 enp12s0 etc
[13:55] <aiena> as for the ifconfig thing just use "ip addr"
[13:56] <aiena> ubuntu removed the ifconfig command in favour of that but otherwise you can get it back with the respective package
[13:56] <corshmock> That's what I'm using.  I have that page you sent open and I will read it
[13:56] <aiena> corshmock: lol the interface names will vary from system to system
[13:56] <aiena> and wether you are using a wired, wireless connection
[13:56] <corshmock> I've never seen any of those before
[13:57] <aiena> enp is usually an ethernet wire interface
[13:57] <corshmock> Well enp was the one I used first which took me off the internet
[13:57] <corshmock> What's virbr0?
[13:57] <ikonia> a virtual interface
[13:57] <aiena> yes but virtual interfaces can have anyname
[13:58] <aiena> even br0 can be a virtual bridge
[13:58] <corshmock> Suppose I take out the bridge and put it back after I (hopefully) created a VM
[13:58] <ikonia> no
[13:58] <aiena> if the error is "br0" missing that very page shows you how to create a virtual interface which connects to the real ethernet interface
[13:58] <ikonia> again - you're running well before walking
[13:59] <aiena> corshmock: you have a physical bridge
[13:59] <ikonia> a.) is the bridge interface available b.) is it up
[13:59] <corshmock> I'm only trying to create a VM
[13:59] <ikonia> right, but you need to meet the requirements of your setup
[13:59] <aiena> yes and while creating the vm the software cannot find a networking interface
[13:59] <aiena> so you make the networking interface and KVM will be happy
[14:00] <ikonia> baa6::1009] has joined #centos
[14:00] <ikonia> 15:20 < mguy> Assuming everyone thatbaa6::1009] has joined #centos
[14:00] <corshmock> Well I don't see br0 in ip a
[14:00] <aiena> that is good
[14:00] <ikonia> this is the problem
[14:00] <aiena> can you please dump the output of ip a
[14:00] <ikonia> you're not confident with the basic
[14:00] <corshmock> Also it's been over 15 years since I held CC*****
[14:00] <ikonia> you're trying to create a vm using a network interface that doesn't exist
[14:01] <aiena> ^^ is exaclty the thing
[14:01] <ikonia> corshmock: you're the one who rolled out your qualifications to say how good you where after I said you where going to run before walk
[14:02] <corshmock> It's okay ikonia, it doesn't matter
[14:02] <aiena> corshmock: can you dump the output of "ip addr" in some pastebin
[14:02] <corshmock> https://paste.centos.org/view/50f2dc9a
[14:03] <ikonia> you're missing the bridge
[14:03] <corshmock> I know that
[14:03] <ikonia> ok ? so what are you actually asking then ?
[14:03] <aiena> yes now enp12s0 is the network interface there to your router
[14:04] <ikonia> as a minute ago you didn't know how to check
[14:04] <ikonia> now you know ?
[14:04] <corshmock> enp12s0 was the one I used first that took networking out
[14:04] <aiena> so follow the article I linked to earlier and create a virtual br0 interface linked to it
[14:04] <corshmock> first line is auto lo br0
[14:04] <ikonia> corshmock: yeah, you can't use an interface that's in use
[14:04] <corshmock> This is the config I followed
[14:04] <corshmock> iface lo inet loopback
[14:05] <ikonia> corshmock: there is no br0
[14:05] <ikonia> (in your paste)
[14:05] <nikolam> tomreyn, it seems the problem was with default resolution with Lightdm https://pastebin.com/7TmiKnzc , https://pastebin.com/0z7TwiFW  When I logged in blindly, I got desktop session. So maybe that 5-monitor.conf is both forcing resolution AND graphics card used and was the problem ...
[14:05] <aiena> corshmock: so now run  "virsh iface-bridge enp12s0  br0"
[14:06] <aiena> this will create a virtual br0 interface
[14:06] <ikonia> I wouldn't run that yet
[14:06] <ikonia> as there is no bridge interface slaved
[14:06] <corshmock> auto lo br0 - is the first line
[14:06] <nikolam> I remember with previous monitor I had to add resolutions to get 1920X1080 and now it is temporarily 1280X1024
[14:06] <corshmock> of the config
[14:06] <aiena> ikonia: what is the correct way?
[14:06] <ikonia> corshmock: first line in what?
[14:06] <ikonia> aiena: depends
[14:06] <ikonia> what config
[14:07] <corshmock> of the config in /etc/network/interfaces - I followed it from a link on the web
[14:07] <nikolam> I am thinking of deleting /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/5-monitor.conf
[14:07] <ikonia> corshmock: pastebin the file please
[14:07] <aiena> corshmock: can you share this link on the web you are referring to
[14:08] <corshmock> https://paste.centos.org/view/684bdf71
[14:09] <ikonia> it won't take long
[14:09] <ikonia> corshmock: honestly - you need to step back and get a few fundementals under your belt,
[14:09] <ikonia> corshmock: that config isn't going to do anything
[14:10] <ikonia> corshmock:  but it does mean aiena approach will work
[14:10] <corshmock> ikonia: I am reading basic Linux stuff
[14:10] <corshmock> What is aiena approach?
[14:10] <aiena> corshmock: you could reset that config bacl to default
[14:10] <aiena> corshmock: so now run  "virsh iface-bridge enp12s0  br0"
[14:11] <aiena> ^^ that
[14:11] <corshmock> So reset first and then run virsh iface-bridge enp12s0  br0 ?
[14:12] <aiena> well the reset is just to avoid conflicts
[14:12] <tomreyn> nikolam: you probably don't need this configuration file really.
[14:12] <corshmock> Yeah there are only two lines
[14:14] <aiena> yes reset it to default. Then create the virtual interface br0 and try to recreate the vm with the same steps as before and see if the error dissapeared
[14:14]  * nikolam rebooting
[14:15] <corshmock> Thanks very much, I'll give that a shot!
[14:15] <aiena> ikonia: should networkmanager be restarted afted editing that?
[14:15] <aiena> not sure what daemons need a restart
[14:17] <ikonia> aiena: if that's what's governing the network config
[14:18] <aiena> hmm yeah I think asking him to reboot the whole system maybe better
[14:18] <aiena> but he left
[14:18] <ikonia> aiena: at least it's a known state in relation to the config files
[14:18] <aiena> that's why I told him to reset it
[14:19] <aiena> I need to learn more about linux networking too
[14:19] <aiena> I know the very basics but not sure how to properly learn
[14:19] <aiena> usually I undo all my manual changes to be on the safe side if they don't work
[14:20] <aiena> and then try a fresh approach
[14:21] <aiena> well the documentation os very clear though
[14:21] <aiena> is
[14:25] <qwebirc95665> hello, i am in the emergency terminal, i disabled secureboot in the bios, can that be the reason why my ubuntu cant boot?
[14:28] <tomreyn> qwebirc95665: *dis*abling secure boot should not cause this, i don't think so, no. maybe you changed something else, too?
[14:28] <qwebirc95665> yes i installed an other os on the other sdd
[14:29] <tomreyn> i guess it's mor elikely related to that
[14:29] <qwebirc95665> there were an windows and now a Qubes OS
[14:29] <tomreyn> so you now have ubuntu, windows and qubes os installed side by side (or this was the plan)?
[14:29] <qwebirc95665> how can i get ubuntu to boot out of this emergency terminal?
[14:30] <qwebirc95665> i have now an ubuntu and a qubesos installed, and a windows image somewhere
[14:31] <qwebirc95665> but starting ubuntu resulting in an emergency mode
[14:31] <tomreyn> is there any message suggesting why you end up in the terminal when booting ubuntu?
[14:32] <qwebirc95665> ehm i'm restarting
[14:33] <tomreyn> do you get dropped to the grub console, the busybox shell, or the recovery menu?
[14:33] <qwebirc95665> error: file /boot/grub .... not found
[14:33] <qwebirc95665> was away to fast
[14:34] <qwebirc95665> then i get to the password part
[14:34] <qwebirc95665> i enter my password
[14:34] <qwebirc95665> cryptsetup sucsessfully
[14:35] <qwebirc95665> Problem loading UEFI:db X.509 certificate (-65)
[14:36] <qwebirc95665> Problem loading UEFI:db X.509 certificate (-65)
[14:36] <tomreyn> that's not an issue as long as secure boot is disabled
[14:36] <qwebirc95665> Couldnt get size 0x80000000000000000000000e
[14:36] <tomreyn> nvidia graphics?
[14:36] <qwebirc95665> PKCS #7 signature not signed with a trusted key
[14:37] <qwebirc95665> (x3)
[14:37] <qwebirc95665> and then " you are in emergency mode"
[14:37] <qwebirc95665> the laptop has only wifi btw
[14:38] <tomreyn> this doesn't sound like secure boot is disabled.
[14:39] <qwebirc95665> qubes doesnt start with secureboot, thats why i had to disable it
[14:40] <qwebirc95665> oh i forgot a keyinformation
[14:40] <qwebirc95665> i start this via a supergrub
[14:40] <tomreyn> i can't help with this, have no experience with it.
[14:41] <qwebirc95665> ok, thanks anyways
[15:00] <FurretUber> Hi, is there a timeframe for fixing the Intel GPUs power management and stability? I'm trying 5.3.0-26 and it still has power management disabled (100% Powered on GPU)
[15:00] <UndefinedIsNotAF> Hi
[15:00] <UndefinedIsNotAF> anyone know a webservice who answer the service name for a given port ?
[15:05] <Habbie> UndefinedIsNotAF, might be a better question for ##networking
[15:10] <FurretUber> And things like resizing virtio QEMU guests causes a few GPU hangs until it is completely resized
[15:34] <tatertots> UndefinedIsNotAF: why would a person need such a thing?
[15:37] <tatertots> UndefinedIsNotAF: a "service" may have a "default" port httpd/apache and port 80 for example, but the system administrator is well within their right to use any OTHER port they want to, such as 8080 or 9090 or anything they want..
[15:37] <qwebirc95665> hello, i used dd to make an image of a disk, i now wanted to restore that disk but ubuntu's gui programm disks says the image is 1,4 MB bigger than the taget device
[15:38] <UndefinedIsNotAF> tatertots: yes, and?
[15:38] <UndefinedIsNotAF> tatertots: i need a such thing
[15:38] <tatertots> UndefinedIsNotAF: lol..come to #networking and repeat it
[15:38] <tatertots> this will be fun
[15:38] <UndefinedIsNotAF> for a statistical study of opened port on a network
[15:39] <UndefinedIsNotAF> tatertots: ok thanks
[15:39] <tatertots> UndefinedIsNotAF: ah for "academia" ...now it makes sense
[15:40] <UndefinedIsNotAF> tatertots: there is way to find who is hiding a specific port, but ill not talk about this here.
[15:40] <tatertots> move to #networking...these guys are finicky
[15:41] <UndefinedIsNotAF> tatertots: we have a bunch of telnet/nmap/nc... commands to help on this point.
[15:41] <UndefinedIsNotAF> ok im on it
[15:47] <jeromelanteri> hi, i'm running OS ubuntu-18.04 on odroid-xu4 (arm arch)
[15:48] <jeromelanteri> and my rclone version is 1.36-3 (to old), but at update time it said it is the last one there
[15:48] <jeromelanteri> and this is my source list: https://gist.github.com/jerome-diver/4b0c569218c43adac3daff3238a74b4b
[15:49] <jeromelanteri> i'm usualy an archlinux user and i felle myself loose with apt and dpkg package manager
[15:49] <jeromelanteri> how to update rclone to latest ubuntu version ?
[15:50] <jelly> jeromelanteri: what does "apt-cache policy rclone" say?
[15:52] <jeromelanteri> jelly, https://gist.github.com/jerome-diver/e91a2ea99a4fcb5f503544f29cf132eb
[15:53] <jeromelanteri> jelly, is it a good idea to remove binary version and install a github clone or from source ?
[15:53] <jeromelanteri> or package manager need to be updated or something around ?
[15:53] <jeromelanteri> i just upgrade and have a new kernel to boot from also...
[15:58] <jeromelanteri> jelly, or maybe a docker version of rclone ? good idea or not ?
[16:12] <trwww> Hi I just got a Dell G5 with an NVIDIA GTX 1650 and I have no sound through the graphics card. Sound settings just list a dummy output.
[16:12] <trwww> I followed https://www.linuxuprising.com/2018/06/fix-no-sound-dummy-output-issue-in.html (options snd-hda-intel model=generic/auto at the end of /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf) but no luck.
[16:12] <trwww> A suggestion in there to 'pactl load-module module-detect' did change the dummy output to a sound device, but I'm assuming thats the onboard sound device, and I don't have any speakers to test, and still no HDMI sound output device.
[16:12] <trwww> Any advice?
[16:18] <jeromelanteri> trwww, look at pusleaudio devices if can see it, then check module loaded
[16:18] <trwww> If I run 'alsamixer' and press F6, I can select "HDA Nvidia" but when I hit escape nothing happens.
[16:18] <trwww> where can I look at pulseaudio devices?
[16:19] <jeromelanteri> trwww, you should first install pulseaudio and maybe its gui apps to be able to see through a gui application for pulsaudio.
[16:19] <jeromelanteri> i think it can be the easy way... maybe
[16:23] <trwww> theres a '/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog' I see in the ps output. I'll look for a gui frontend.
[16:25] <jelly> jeromelanteri: I have no idea what's the optimal option for ubuntu.  If it were me I'd add a deb-src sources.list line for  "focal" or "eoan" and try to build a newer binary package version from sources (a "backport")
[16:25] <jeromelanteri> jelly i'm on github clone option actually... thank you jelly
[17:28] <rhoks> can anyone play x265 video files on ubuntu 18 with either VLC or MPV?
[17:32] <tatertots> I haven't had any trouble with h265 in vlc or mplayer
[17:33] <tatertots> rhoks: if you're unable to play them, have you tried other source files instead of the same problematic files you've attempted to play unsuccessfully
[17:44] <Nyle> life is like a tree
[17:45] <Nyle> ls -R
[17:58] <aberrant> is there a standard/safe way to reimage a hypervisor without having to reconfigure everything? I think I selected the wrong "server type" on install and I have all these unnecessary pacakges.
[17:58] <Habbie> you could remove the packages
[17:58] <aberrant> but I don't really know which ones to remove, and the metapackages all say, "don't remove me"
[17:59] <aberrant> I have ubuntu-minimal, ubuntu-server, and ubuntu-standard.
[17:59] <aberrant> this is a headless hypervisor.
[18:00] <aberrant> no GUI, just kvm and ssh.
[18:00] <aberrant> and it's got 752 packages installed!
[18:00] <OerHeks> 'reimage a hypervisor " what does that mean, reinstall and confgure?
[18:01] <aberrant> OerHeks: yeah, essentially. I have a server acting as a hypervisor and it's got more packages installed than any of the guest VMs that are doing real work.
[18:01] <aberrant> I'd like to trim down what's installed on the hypervisor to just what's needed.
[18:01] <aberrant> but these meta-packages all recommend against removal.
[18:02] <aberrant> is it possible to go through the initial setup again and make a different selection that will remove the packages that were originally installed?
[18:03] <OerHeks> what do you want to do, remnove ubuntu-minimal/desktop from that headless hypervisor server?
[18:04] <aberrant> I don't know which packages are safe to remove. I can post my install list if that will help but I have multiple meta-packages
[18:04] <aberrant> http://dpaste.com/1V58X9J
[18:04] <aberrant> are the ubuntu ones
[18:05] <aberrant> I just really need kvm and ssh, and then I can selectively install other stuff that I need, but there are 752 packages installed right now.
[18:06] <aberrant> OerHeks: I didn't install desktop. I don't recall installing server, but perhaps kvm did it.
[18:09] <aberrant> let me post the entire installed list. Perhaps someone can help out.
[18:10] <EriC^^> aberrant: you can use the /var/log/apt/history.log to see which were pulled in by desktop or whatever and auto remove them
[18:13] <tomreyn> or. if you have /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz , you can list manually installed packages using: comm -23 <(apt-mark showmanual | sort -u) <(gzip -dc /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | sort -u)
[18:13] <FurretUber> What is the proper way to upgrade a 18.04 install to 20.04 daily? I have backups
[18:13] <aberrant> huh, ok.
[18:13] <aberrant> let me see if I have history.log
[18:14] <OerHeks> FurretUber, not sure the apt install -d development option brings you straight to 20.04 beta ..
[18:14] <OerHeks> else 17.04 > 19.04 > 19.10 > 20.04
[18:14] <OerHeks> or 18.04
[18:15] <aberrant> I'm not sure the history.log helps me. I see the massive blob of files at the initial install.
[18:15] <OerHeks> sudo apt install update-manager-core &&  sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[18:16] <aberrant> tomreyn: I don't have initial-status.gz, unfortunately.
[18:16] <EriC^^> aberrant: oh so you installed the extra stuff during the install?
[18:17] <EriC^^> it's a mini.iso?
[18:18] <tomreyn> do you have /var/log/installer/media-info ?
[18:19] <FurretUber> I did a check and 20.04 is available: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HRgcFYKmS6/
[18:19] <OerHeks> good, have fun!
[18:19] <OerHeks> support in #ubuntu+1
[18:24] <aberrant> tomreyn: yes - it has one line: Ubuntu-Server 19.10 "Eoan Ermine" - Release amd64 (20191017)
[18:25] <aberrant> EriC^^: I think it was installed during the initial installation. I used a bootable usb image to install
[18:27] <EriC^^> aha
[18:27] <FurretUber> do-release-upgrade uses screen now, nice
[18:27] <EriC^^> i think you could use the manifest online for the initial packages list, but why dont you reinstall wouldnt it be easier?
[18:27] <aberrant> I remember it presented me with a list of things to install, and I *thought* I picked a minimal set.
[18:28] <aberrant> If I reinstall I'll have to restore the guest VMs and all my configuration.
[18:28] <aberrant> so I'd really rather avoid that.
[18:28] <aberrant> I guess I could do that, but ... man. It'd take forever.
[18:29] <tomreyn> the tasks ubuntu server installer presents for installation are mostly snaps, i think
[18:29] <tds> ^^ was this using the new curtin/whatever based installer, or the old d-i one?
[18:30] <tds> iirc the old d-i one is just some wrapping around tasksel
[18:30] <tomreyn> "Ubuntu-Server 19.10" suggests subiquity / curtin, i'd say
[18:30] <EriC^^> aberrant: this should be the initial packages i think http://releases.ubuntu.com/19.10/ubuntu-19.10-live-server-amd64.manifest
[18:31] <tds> oh yes, sorry, missed that
[18:31] <EriC^^> that list seems odd though, kinda short plus there's no kernel i think
[18:31] <EriC^^> aberrant: ^
[18:31] <aberrant> EriC^^: what is that list?
[18:32] <aberrant> tomreyn / tds : I don't know. I downloaded the bootable image, burned to usb, and booted into it.
[18:33] <aberrant> gotta transfer 200GB of guest images
[18:34] <tomreyn> did it look like this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=tasksel.jpg
[18:34] <aberrant> it was the same format, but those selections don't look right
[18:35] <aberrant> it had "ssh server", "dns server", and some other things, and it scrolled (long list).
[18:35] <aberrant> i don't recall seeing any "live cd" options
[18:35] <tomreyn> more like this? https://news-cdn.softpedia.com/images/news2/canonical-wants-the-ubuntu-20-04-lts-server-installer-to-be-faster-comfortable-528618-5.jpg
[18:35] <aberrant> no. the format was the blue checkboxes
[18:35] <aberrant> and there were no mentions of snaps.
[18:36] <tomreyn> oka,y you installe dusing either using the alternative server installer or mini.iso
[18:36] <aberrant> I still have the usb image here.
[18:37] <aberrant> ubuntu-19.10-live-server-amd64.iso
[18:37] <aberrant> that's what it was called
[18:37] <tomreyn> this contradicts what you just said about what the menu looked like, i doubt the color scheme changed
[18:38] <aberrant> the menu definitely looked like the blue list, but the entries were different.
[18:38] <tomreyn> anyways, it's either snaps or apt tasks / tasksel. you can use "tasksel --list-tasks" to see which tasks are setup
[18:38] <tomreyn> those starting with "i" ar einstalled
[18:38] <aberrant> Command 'tasksel' not found, but can be installed with:
[18:38] <aberrant> sudo apt install tasksel
[18:39] <tomreyn> only use it to run the above command, not to apply changes.
[18:39] <aberrant> so install it?
[18:39] <tomreyn> that should be fine
[18:40] <aberrant> http://dpaste.com/04Y0Z09
[18:40] <aberrant> "basic ubuntu server"
[18:40] <aberrant> I must have mistakenly selected that?
[18:41] <aberrant> seth@elemental:~$ tasksel --list-task | grep "^i"
[18:41] <aberrant> i cloud-image   Ubuntu Cloud Image (instance)
[18:41] <aberrant> i openssh-server        OpenSSH server
[18:41] <aberrant> i server        Basic Ubuntu server
[18:41] <tomreyn> it's what the server installer installs by default. since you'Re installign a server using the server installer.
[18:41] <aberrant> oh.
[18:41] <aberrant> so perhaps there's nothing here that isn't needed?
[18:41] <aberrant> it just seems crazy that there are 752 packages installed.
[18:42] <aberrant> I don't recall selecting cloud-image, but I definitely selected ssh server
[18:43] <tomreyn> my desktop has 2755 packages installed, i guess you're good.
[18:43] <aberrant> hahaha
[18:43] <aberrant> my guest images only have like 400
[18:43] <aberrant> and they're the ones doing real work.
[18:43] <aberrant> I guess I'm just being neurotic about this.
[18:43] <tomreyn> me, too ;)
[18:44] <tomreyn> i mean i also guessyou are.
[18:44] <aberrant> so your opinion is that this isn't a big deal and I should stop worrying about it? :)
[18:44] <aberrant> if so, I accept that
[18:44] <tomreyn> yes, i think its fine.
[18:44] <aberrant> ok. thanks.
[18:44] <aberrant> I see all these fonts installed, which is crazy because it's headless.
[18:45] <tomreyn> fonts would be installed as a side effect of installing X, i guess
[18:45] <aberrant> the fonts are console fonts, not X fonts.
[18:46] <tomreyn> that's fonts which aren't console fonts
[18:46] <aberrant> X was installed because of the vnc server that virsh supports
[18:46] <aberrant> (for VNCing into guests)
[18:46] <tomreyn> so did your disk run full?
[18:46] <aberrant> no, I have plenty of space
[18:47] <aberrant>  /dev/nvme0n1p2  916G  159G  711G  19% /
[18:47] <tomreyn> then you'll better spend your and everyones' time on worrying about something relevant. ;-)
[18:47] <aberrant> HAHAH. I accept that. Thank you.
[18:47] <aberrant> so my next complaint is these damn apparmor logs for my virtual machiens
[18:48] <aberrant> they're not blocking anything, but they're verbose.
[18:49] <aberrant> I'd love to silence them without disabling apparmor
[18:51] <aberrant> [141416.797057] audit: type=1400 audit(1577039412.557:37): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_replace" info="same as current profile, skipp
[18:51] <aberrant> ing" profile="unconfined" name="libvirt-56eaafde-ee1a-4024-ad7c-d3816a6739a6" pid=3889 comm="apparmor_parser"
[18:51] <aberrant> as an example.
[18:59] <tomreyn> aberrant: see the ERRORS section in apparmor(7)
[19:05] <albech> Anyone know of a CLI interface to the Signal message system?
[19:08] <tomreyn> albech: that's not in ubuntu, but there is https://github.com/AsamK/signal-cli/wiki/HowToUbuntu
[19:09] <albech> tomreyn: wow thanks.. will look at that. cheers
[19:09] <aberrant> tomreyn: yes, I've used aa-complain but it's still logging these.
[19:10] <aberrant> these are not DENIED errors, they're just STATUS.
[19:10] <tomreyn> aberrant: i was rather hinting at "If the userland auditd is not running, the kernel will send audit events to klogd; klogd will send the messages to syslog, which will [..]"
[19:11] <tomreyn> i.e. if you want better control on how the (kernel orginated) audit messages are (not) logged, you may want to install and configure auditd
[19:13] <tomreyn> alternatively you could use rsyslogd and create rules there.
[19:17] <aberrant> oh, auditd. OK.
[19:17] <tomreyn> i guess apparmor profile replacement is a relevant event, though (could have security impact), which will be why this (rather rare, only during boot / start of services, i would think) event it is logged by default.
[19:17] <aberrant> but is there a way to tell apparmor that things are OK?
[19:17] <aberrant> yeah, this happens whenever a virtual machine comes online or goes offline.
[19:17] <aberrant> or when a snapshot is taken
[19:17] <aberrant> which happens at least once a day.
[19:18] <tomreyn> do you also strip system login events off your logs then?
[19:18] <tomreyn> because they occur too often?
[19:19] <aberrant> no, but those aren't logged to the kernel buffer.
[19:19] <aberrant> I want dmesg to output things that are really important.
[19:19] <aberrant> (drive failures, kernel panics, etc.)
[19:19] <tomreyn> use journalctl -p instead
[19:19] <aberrant> if they just went to syslog I wouldn't have a problem
[19:20] <aberrant> I'm oldschool. I use the raw log files, not this new-fangled journalctl :)
[19:24] <tomreyn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor
[19:31] <rhoks> what the application name for the windows manager
[19:31] <rhoks> I need to kill it and restart it because its stuck
[19:32] <chrisps> hi, I'm trying to switch from 4.15.0-72-generic to a build of 4.0.1 that i compiled, but when I boot into it I get stuck at "loading initial ramdisk"
[19:32] <rhoks> precisely I tried to make the window smaller and now its not responding unfortunately when i opened my usb stick
[19:32] <chrisps> i did sudo make install and sudo make install_modules, is there something else i need to do in order to use my kernel?
[19:34] <akk> chrisps: Maybe mkinitrd? I never build a kernel that needed one, but distro kernels definitely do.
[19:34] <aberrant> ok, let's see if aa-disable does things.
[19:34] <aberrant> thanks for all the guidance, tomreyn
[19:39] <tomreyn> you're welcome, aberrant
[20:52] <MadLamb> My mouse wheel broke and apparently it is always scrolling. I am trying to disable the scroll, and I was able to do that with "xinput" and the events no longer appear on "xev". but somehow chrome still recognizes it. Any idea?
[20:54] <MadLamb> nevermind the mouse decided to work again :l
[20:54] <corshmock> Hurrah!!
[20:54] <Ben64> time to buy a new mouse maybe
[20:55] <corshmock> I've had mouse issues which I never got to the bottom of, so I would love to see some trouble shooting
[20:56] <bprompt> new mouse should be between $5US - $10US
[20:56] <OerHeks> not an ubuntu issue
[20:56] <OerHeks> €1 on the fleamarket
[21:02] <dionysus69> how do I check if GPU driver is properly installed?
[21:03] <dionysus69> I just installed RX 580 on the motherboard, didn't install anything special
[21:03] <MadLamb> like I spent one half an hour tying to disable the wheel button and just after asking the question it works again
[21:03] <MadLamb> carzy
[21:03] <MadLamb> crazy*
[21:04] <imi> hi. I have an usb c to ethernet adapter, plugged into an usbc to usb3 adapter, plugged into an usb3 hub, plugged into my computer :) now into this usb hub there are several other things plugged in (usb 1 HID, and usb 3 as well). however somethimes when I boot up this machine the ethernet port does not work. my solution to this is to unplug and reattach the usbc to usb3 adapter to the hub. is there a software workaround? for instance is
[21:04] <imi> there a "detach and reattach this device" shell command?
[21:05] <sixwheeledbeast^> dionysus69: it should just work
[21:05] <sixwheeledbeast^> tm
[21:05] <dionysus69> ok :) also is there a something like a night mode? to minimize fan noise and disable GPU or something at night? if i leave PC running 24/7?
[21:06] <dionysus69> not sure how to search for ready solution
[21:06] <sixwheeledbeast^> dionysus69: I don't believe fans can be off on linux
[21:06] <dionysus69> no I mean not off
[21:06] <dionysus69> but on minimum required rpm
[21:07] <sixwheeledbeast^> I just use the CPU governor it's not fan control but it works
[21:07] <sixwheeledbeast^> just keeps the heat down in the machine
[21:07] <dionysus69> ok :) sounds legit
[21:08] <sixwheeledbeast^> I don't believe there is support for fan speed on the GPU, but if you find anything let me know.
[21:14] <tomreyn> yes there is fan rotation speed control for amdgpu via sysfs. but why would you want to manually manage it? the graphics crd firmware should already be doing it in a sensible way.
[21:14] <dionysus69> yea there's not
[21:16] <tomreyn> if chassis or cpu fans run at constant speed, check your bios and see what options it provides for controlling fan speed. you may also want to look for a firmware upgrade.
[21:18] <compdoc> I set my fans to quiet mode in the bos
[21:23] <sixwheeledbeast^> dionysus69: just found this, maybe helpful https://github.com/grmat/amdgpu-fancontrol/blob/master/amdgpu-fancontrol
[21:23] <dionysus69> thanks  :)
[21:25] <OerHeks> also interesting, https://github.com/marazmista/radeon-profile
[21:25] <OerHeks> screenshots https://imgur.com/a/DMRr9
[21:27] <sixwheeledbeast^> dionysus69: cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/hwmon/hwmon0/pwm1_enable   (2 would be auto)
[21:31] <tomreyn> "sensors amdgpu-pci-0c00" (after "sensors-detect") for a higher level utility.
[21:34] <Apachez> Merry Christmas! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmzdWlc5GLg
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[21:36] <OerHeks> KaitoDaumoto, no bots here, thanks
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[21:42] <vigilant> Hi
[21:42] <vigilant> I have some vps's
[21:42] <vigilant> I want to track their uptime on one page
[21:42] <vigilant> Is that possible?
[21:42] <vigilant> I want to see uptimes for the vps's at one place... is this easy to do?
[21:44] <vigilant> Anyone?
[21:48] <akk> vigilant: That doesn't really seem like an ubuntu-specific question; it seems more about whatever mechanism/host you're using for the vpses, what your website is like, etc.
[21:48] <OerHeks> vigilant, maybe more a question for #ubuntu-server, depends what admin tools you use i guess
[21:50] <compdoc> vigilant, Ive never used it, but a name that I hear a lot for monitoring is Nagios
[21:53] <vigilant> I got it
[21:53] <vigilant> thanks
[22:04] <epsilonKNOT> hey guys small issue: how do i get apt to isntall a package but ignore file conflicts? the package i want to isntall sees a file that is already present and is not able to install this new package
[22:07] <OerHeks> epsilonKNOT, what is the exact error? sounds like you added other sources that conflict
[22:07] <epsilonKNOT> indeed
[22:07] <epsilonKNOT> my friend has messed up the install
[22:07] <epsilonKNOT> and apt says broken state
[22:07] <epsilonKNOT> easiest way to fix is to force install the replacement
[22:08] <epsilonKNOT> found it: apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install <package-name>
[22:13] <Descriptioned> how to can create a shortcut that runs a command on terminal but keeps the terminal open after the command?
[22:19] <tomreyn> Descriptioned: add       read -p 'Press Enter to exit…' x      to the end of your script
[23:01] <dreamon> Hello → Theme parsing error: gtk.css:44:4: Junk at end of value for background-color
[23:01] <dreamon> where do I find this gtk.css?
[23:02] <dreamon> I dont know name of choosen theme..
[23:38] <cluelessperson> I'm running into an issue that keeps occurring, where kswapd is using up 100% cpu