| lubot | <plyr0> @emrekayamix [Breaking up after 1.5 gb], Lubuntu.me? Also 19.10 is latest | 03:09 |
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| lubot | <emrekayamix> whats site lubuntu.me and lubuntu.net ? | 08:36 |
| lubot | <emrekayamix> why two different sites | 08:37 |
| guiverc | Lubuntu.me is the official Lubuntu site, if you're unsure about any flavor site go to ubuntu.com and look there (eg. https://ubuntu.com/download/flavours) | 08:37 |
| guiverc | fyi: there are more than 2 sites offering Lubuntu for download if you ask google... (some only show in specific language searches) | 08:37 |
| guiverc | (fyi: I wasn't thinking of official mirrors in my last comment; we cannot really control what people say/offer online) | 08:42 |
| lubot | <emrekayamix> thanks forever lubuntu! | 08:43 |
| lubot | <emrekayamix> which is the latest stable version | 08:44 |
| lubot | <emrekayamix> 19.10 and 20.04 ? | 08:45 |
| guiverc | 19.10; or the 2019-October release (releases are year.month in format) | 08:45 |
| guiverc | 20.04 is the current development version, set for release in 2020-April | 08:45 |
| lubot | <emrekayamix> your advice | 08:46 |
| guiverc | 19.10 is the latest stable release; so I'd suggest that. The lubuntu manual (https://manual.lubuntu.me/) assumes you're on stable (19.10), you can use all support sites (some eg. askubu don't allow ubuntu+1 or 20.04) | 08:47 |
| lubot | <devikri> @guiverc [<guiverc> 19.10 is the latest stable release; so I'd suggest that. The lubuntu …], Do Lubuntu users from all over the world only 85? | 09:01 |
| guiverc | 85? | 09:02 |
| lubot | <devikri> @guiverc [<guiverc> 85?], are there more ? | 09:04 |
| guiverc | sorry I don't understand your question | 09:05 |
| lubot | <devikri> i mean, is there more lubuntu user around the world ? | 09:06 |
| lubot | <devikri> in this support group only 85 | 09:06 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> There are 85 in the Telegram channel but the Telegram channel is bridged to IRC and Matrix | 09:07 |
| guiverc | I see only 69 users in the room connected to IRC currently; but most don't use telegram, nor do most use IRC. Most users just download & use it .. | 09:07 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> Many just join the support channel when they need support, they don't necessarily stay connected. | 09:08 |
| lubot | <devikri> @kc2bez [Many just join the support channel when they need support, they don't necessaril …], owh okay thx, and sorry for the fool question | 09:09 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> No problem | 09:10 |
| guiverc | no such thing as a fool question, asking questions is the only way we learn :) | 09:10 |
| lubot | <emrekayamix> (Photo, 1280x720) https://i.imgur.com/VKYRHce.jpg | 09:19 |
| lubot | <emrekayamix> same error | 09:19 |
| lubot | <emrekayamix> It doesn't go down after 1.5 Gb | 09:19 |
| lubot | <emrekayamix> there is a bug in the server | 09:45 |
| lubot | <Marcelo Pugliesi> Index of /lubuntu/releases/19.10/release … http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/19.10/release/ | 11:39 |
| lubot | <Marcelo Pugliesi> Use torrent 👆🏽 | 11:39 |
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| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @emrekayamix [It doesn't go down after 1.5 Gb], You could use wget. | 16:09 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> I just did a "wget http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/eoan/release/lubuntu-19.10-desktop-amd64.iso" and it works fine. | 16:11 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> (Photo, 606x1280) https://i.imgur.com/817wf8o.jpg | 16:11 |
| bea19 | Hi does someone know Parcellite? | 21:21 |
| bea19 | I have a little problem... | 21:21 |
| lubot | <teward001> parcellite as in the clipboard manager? Hasn't that been unmaintained since 2017? | 21:23 |
| bea19 | Yes | 21:23 |
| bea19 | the clipboard manager | 21:23 |
| bea19 | I dont know much | 21:23 |
| bea19 | I have a problem because i absolutley need to recover an item in history | 21:24 |
| bea19 | but it only keeps the last 25 | 21:24 |
| bea19 | at first I thought I was in big trouble | 21:24 |
| bea19 | but I think it's in the local-share-parcellite-history file | 21:25 |
| bea19 | but I don't know how to read that file | 21:25 |
| bea19 | I tried to open it with Leafpad | 21:25 |
| bea19 | but not working (only says Parcellite History file and shows nothing) | 21:26 |
| guiverc | bea19, if you know where the file is; use `file /path/file` to work out what type of file it is, it may provide clues as to how you can use it | 21:26 |
| bea19 | ok I try | 21:27 |
| bea19 | .local/share/parcellite/history: data | 21:34 |
| bea19 | it's a data file | 21:34 |
| bea19 | so what next? :) | 21:34 |
| tomreyn | "strings" may help if its text | 21:35 |
| bea19 | is that a command? | 21:35 |
| bea19 | sorry, I am a beginner | 21:36 |
| tomreyn | yes | 21:36 |
| bea19 | so I type strings /path/file in terminal? | 21:36 |
| tomreyn | yes | 21:37 |
| tomreyn | strings .local/share/parcellite/history | 21:37 |
| tomreyn | or rather: | 21:37 |
| tomreyn | strings ~/.local/share/parcellite/history | 21:37 |
| bea19 | Yes, It works! | 21:38 |
| bea19 | But something strange... | 21:39 |
| bea19 | It shows more than 25, but not all of them | 21:39 |
| bea19 | Can i do something like "all strings" ? | 21:40 |
| bea19 | I need it to show all | 21:41 |
| bea19 | maybe "strings full" ? | 21:42 |
| bea19 | It shows 30, so 5 more | 21:44 |
| bea19 | Actually no sorry Im wrong, it shows the same (25) | 21:45 |
| tomreyn | bea19: are those missing ones shorter than 4 characters? | 21:46 |
| bea19 | no | 21:46 |
| bea19 | they are just older | 21:46 |
| bea19 | chronologically | 21:46 |
| bea19 | older | 21:46 |
| tomreyn | chances are they're lost then | 21:46 |
| bea19 | that's why it doesn't show then anymore | 21:46 |
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| bea19 | there is nothing else i can try? | 21:47 |
| bea19 | please | 21:47 |
| bea19 | maybe a log somewhere | 21:47 |
| tomreyn | i don't know the software, so can't tell for sure | 21:47 |
| bea19 | who knows the software? | 21:48 |
| tomreyn | it's probably open source. and the developers do. | 21:49 |
| bea19 | the thing is I never cleared the history | 21:49 |
| bea19 | so this makes me think it could be possible | 21:49 |
| bea19 | wouldn't it be strange the items just get deleted without me having cleared the history? | 21:51 |
| bea19 | so you say i write to the developers? | 21:51 |
| tomreyn | it's a clipboard manager. you should never have expected it to persist data for you in the first place. | 21:51 |
| bea19 | I thought that was the whole point of a clipboard manager... | 21:52 |
| bea19 | to not get the copied items lost | 21:52 |
| bea19 | looks like I was wrong | 21:52 |
| bea19 | :( | 21:52 |
| tomreyn | anyways, i'm convinced it is gone. but you don't need to rely on me. | 21:53 |
| bea19 | But thank you, you were helpful | 21:53 |
| tomreyn | you're welcome. | 21:53 |
| bea19 | why are you convinced? | 21:53 |
| tomreyn | this software seems to store its data in this file you identified, ~/.local/share/parcellite/history. it probably won't keep the data elsewhere. and it's not in there. | 21:54 |
| tomreyn | so it seems logical to assume that the missing data is gone | 21:54 |
| bea19 | that command you said (strings) are you sure it shows everything? | 21:54 |
| tomreyn | it will also not have been saved in a a different file, so there is probably no use in looking for the data on the raw disk | 21:55 |
| tomreyn | i'm sure that strings does *not* show everything by default. you can read its man page and learn how to make it display more | 21:55 |
| tomreyn | !man | 21:55 |
| ubottu | The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal | Manpages online: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/ | 21:55 |
| tomreyn | also strings --help may already suffice. | 21:56 |
| bea19 | Ok, looks complicated, but I will try | 21:57 |
| bea19 | Thanks | 21:57 |
| bea19 | lubot: should I thank you too, or are you a bot? :) | 21:57 |
| tomreyn | it's unlikely that the missing strings is stored in a different format than those others it found, though, and you said it's not shorter than 4 characters, so it's unlikely that "strings" will be able to get you those other missing strings. | 21:57 |
| tomreyn | its a bot | 21:58 |
| bea19 | aha :) | 21:58 |
| tomreyn | and so is ubottu | 21:58 |
| bea19 | Ok, my mistake. But it would have been REALLY NICE if developers made it clear that older items get deleted even if we do not clear history!!! | 22:01 |
| bea19 | I bet many other people made my same wrong assumption... | 22:02 |
| bea19 | At least us beginners... | 22:02 |
| bea19 | :) | 22:02 |
| tomreyn | i agree, this would be good to point out, to prevent this situation. i have not studieid it's documentation to check whether that's the case, though. | 22:08 |
| tomreyn | apparently there is a 'Persistent History' setting on its "Behavior Tab" in preferences. "Adds a list that is permanent and never goes away." | 22:13 |
| bea19 | Yes, that should be default behavior!! :) | 22:43 |
| bea19 | Changing subject, where can you buy online (l)ubuntu notebooks with italian-keyboard? | 22:45 |
| bea19 | Are there official ubuntu-notebooks? | 22:45 |
| bea19 | Where does the ubuntu community buy the hardware from? | 22:46 |
| bea19 | "Sad news for fans of official Ubuntu merchandise: the Ubuntu Shop has closed down!" | 22:49 |
| guiverc | i don't think there is anyplace specific; I buy second hand from a local recycler, they come with ubuntu installed too :) A few companies do sell ubuntu (or flavors) installed on new devices | 22:49 |
| bea19 | There is no other? | 22:49 |
| bea19 | With italian keyboard? | 22:49 |
| bea19 | I see some on foreign ecommerce sites, but not with italian keyboard | 22:51 |
| guiverc | can't help there sorry; UK & DE suppliers I'm aware of, no clue on italian keyboards sorry | 22:51 |
| bea19 | can you please tell me anyways | 22:52 |
| bea19 | (the uk & de suppliers) | 22:52 |
| bea19 | maybe I can ask them to put italian keytboard? | 22:52 |
| bea19 | can the local recycler change the keyboard? | 22:53 |
| guiverc | UK I was thinking of https://www.entroware.com/store/, but sorry when I said local I meant local to me (melb au) - you'd have to check your local recyclers | 22:54 |
| bea19 | ok, that's pretty far for me, aha :) | 22:54 |
| bea19 | thanks | 22:54 |
| bea19 | It's strange they don't care about us Italians, we are many, 60 million... | 22:56 |
| guiverc | https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/ is possibly who I was thinking of in DE; I've heard better things about entroware (UK) though | 22:56 |
| bea19 | Is it difficult to change the keyboard of a notebook? | 22:56 |
| bea19 | Were there ever official ubuntu notebooks? (before the store closed) | 22:58 |
| guiverc | i can't really advise sorry, i've changed a few keyboards on thinkpads (ibm/lenovo) & latitudes (dell) but I believe the ease will vary on model of device - getting replacement keyboard is I suspect largest issue | 22:59 |
| bea19 | OK, I see... | 22:59 |
| bea19 | Definitely better if it comes right away with the right keyboard... | 22:59 |
| bea19 | But nobody cares about us Italians... :( | 23:00 |
| bea19 | :) | 23:00 |
| guiverc | not that I'm aware of .. dell, hp, lenovo & some big make sell ubuntu on devices - but locally trying to find one would be impossible, usually you need to order (IF you can find web page) | 23:00 |
| bea19 | Yes Delll I saw had, but not for Italy... | 23:02 |
| tomreyn | bea19: dell can usually offer them with italian keyboards, though it may not be available through the online customization utility | 23:02 |
| tomreyn | possibly only B2B, though | 23:02 |
| bea19 | But I once read an article that said they didn't do them for Italy | 23:03 |
| bea19 | I mean with Ubuntu | 23:03 |
| tomreyn | https://pilot.search.dell.com/laptops/ubuntu | 23:03 |
| bea19 | They force us on Windows | 23:04 |
| tomreyn | "Tastiera interna italiano (non retroilluminata)" | 23:04 |
| tomreyn | oh this search doesn't actually work | 23:07 |
| tomreyn | you need to search manually for "ubuntu", then you'll find 17 models | 23:07 |
| bea19 | Ok I take a look, hopefully they changed, thankyou | 23:09 |
| bea19 | Grazie :) | 23:09 |
| tomreyn | it seems to be a matter of luck whether it lists the windows ones or the ubuntu ones as a result of this search | 23:13 |
| bea19 | When you search from the dellitalian website it gives ZERO results... :( | 23:46 |
| bea19 | Ok maybe found some... | 23:51 |
| bea19 | Thank you all & good night- buona notte :) | 23:52 |
| tomreyn | https://www.dell.com/it-it/shop/notebook-dell/sr/laptops/ubuntu?appliedRefinements=9964 | 23:56 |
| tomreyn | unfortunately intel only | 23:57 |
| bea19 | amd is better? | 23:58 |
| tomreyn | amd integrated graphics are faster than intels',a dn i wouldn't want a dedicated graphics card on a laptop, it just drives up heat and price | 23:59 |
| bea19 | also dell is expensive | 23:59 |
| tomreyn | a dn -> and | 23:59 |
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