[03:09] @emrekayamix [Breaking up after 1.5 gb], Lubuntu.me? Also 19.10 is latest [08:36] whats site lubuntu.me and lubuntu.net ? [08:37] why two different sites [08:37] Lubuntu.me is the official Lubuntu site, if you're unsure about any flavor site go to ubuntu.com and look there (eg. https://ubuntu.com/download/flavours) [08:37] fyi: there are more than 2 sites offering Lubuntu for download if you ask google... (some only show in specific language searches) [08:42] (fyi: I wasn't thinking of official mirrors in my last comment; we cannot really control what people say/offer online) [08:43] thanks forever lubuntu! [08:44] which is the latest stable version [08:45] 19.10 and 20.04 ? [08:45] 19.10; or the 2019-October release (releases are year.month in format) [08:45] 20.04 is the current development version, set for release in 2020-April [08:46] your advice [08:47] 19.10 is the latest stable release; so I'd suggest that. The lubuntu manual (https://manual.lubuntu.me/) assumes you're on stable (19.10), you can use all support sites (some eg. askubu don't allow ubuntu+1 or 20.04) [09:01] @guiverc [ 19.10 is the latest stable release; so I'd suggest that. The lubuntu …], Do Lubuntu users from all over the world only 85? [09:02] 85? [09:04] @guiverc [ 85?], are there more ? [09:05] sorry I don't understand your question [09:06] i mean, is there more lubuntu user around the world ? [09:06] in this support group only 85 [09:07] There are 85 in the Telegram channel but the Telegram channel is bridged to IRC and Matrix [09:07] I see only 69 users in the room connected to IRC currently; but most don't use telegram, nor do most use IRC. Most users just download & use it .. [09:08] Many just join the support channel when they need support, they don't necessarily stay connected. [09:09] @kc2bez [Many just join the support channel when they need support, they don't necessaril …], owh okay thx, and sorry for the fool question [09:10] No problem [09:10] no such thing as a fool question, asking questions is the only way we learn :) [09:19] (Photo, 1280x720) https://i.imgur.com/VKYRHce.jpg [09:19] same error [09:19] It doesn't go down after 1.5 Gb [09:45] there is a bug in the server [11:39] Index of /lubuntu/releases/19.10/release … http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/19.10/release/ [11:39] Use torrent 👆🏽 === ubuntu is now known as Guest14904 [16:09] @emrekayamix [It doesn't go down after 1.5 Gb], You could use wget. [16:11] I just did a "wget http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/eoan/release/lubuntu-19.10-desktop-amd64.iso" and it works fine. [16:11] (Photo, 606x1280) https://i.imgur.com/817wf8o.jpg [21:21] Hi does someone know Parcellite? [21:21] I have a little problem... [21:23] parcellite as in the clipboard manager? Hasn't that been unmaintained since 2017? [21:23] Yes [21:23] the clipboard manager [21:23] I dont know much [21:24] I have a problem because i absolutley need to recover an item in history [21:24] but it only keeps the last 25 [21:24] at first I thought I was in big trouble [21:25] but I think it's in the local-share-parcellite-history file [21:25] but I don't know how to read that file [21:25] I tried to open it with Leafpad [21:26] but not working (only says Parcellite History file and shows nothing) [21:26] bea19, if you know where the file is; use `file /path/file` to work out what type of file it is, it may provide clues as to how you can use it [21:27] ok I try [21:34] .local/share/parcellite/history: data [21:34] it's a data file [21:34] so what next? :) [21:35] "strings" may help if its text [21:35] is that a command? [21:36] sorry, I am a beginner [21:36] yes [21:36] so I type strings /path/file in terminal? [21:37] yes [21:37] strings .local/share/parcellite/history [21:37] or rather: [21:37] strings ~/.local/share/parcellite/history [21:38] Yes, It works! [21:39] But something strange... [21:39] It shows more than 25, but not all of them [21:40] Can i do something like "all strings" ? [21:41] I need it to show all [21:42] maybe "strings full" ? [21:44] It shows 30, so 5 more [21:45] Actually no sorry Im wrong, it shows the same (25) [21:46] bea19: are those missing ones shorter than 4 characters? [21:46] no [21:46] they are just older [21:46] chronologically [21:46] older [21:46] chances are they're lost then [21:46] that's why it doesn't show then anymore === jose is now known as Guest89618 [21:47] there is nothing else i can try? [21:47] please [21:47] maybe a log somewhere [21:47] i don't know the software, so can't tell for sure [21:48] who knows the software? [21:49] it's probably open source. and the developers do. [21:49] the thing is I never cleared the history [21:49] so this makes me think it could be possible [21:51] wouldn't it be strange the items just get deleted without me having cleared the history? [21:51] so you say i write to the developers? [21:51] it's a clipboard manager. you should never have expected it to persist data for you in the first place. [21:52] I thought that was the whole point of a clipboard manager... [21:52] to not get the copied items lost [21:52] looks like I was wrong [21:52] :( [21:53] anyways, i'm convinced it is gone. but you don't need to rely on me. [21:53] But thank you, you were helpful [21:53] you're welcome. [21:53] why are you convinced? [21:54] this software seems to store its data in this file you identified, ~/.local/share/parcellite/history. it probably won't keep the data elsewhere. and it's not in there. [21:54] so it seems logical to assume that the missing data is gone [21:54] that command you said (strings) are you sure it shows everything? [21:55] it will also not have been saved in a a different file, so there is probably no use in looking for the data on the raw disk [21:55] i'm sure that strings does *not* show everything by default. you can read its man page and learn how to make it display more [21:55] !man [21:55] The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal | Manpages online: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/ [21:56] also strings --help may already suffice. [21:57] Ok, looks complicated, but I will try [21:57] Thanks [21:57] lubot: should I thank you too, or are you a bot? :) [21:57] it's unlikely that the missing strings is stored in a different format than those others it found, though, and you said it's not shorter than 4 characters, so it's unlikely that "strings" will be able to get you those other missing strings. [21:58] its a bot [21:58] aha :) [21:58] and so is ubottu [22:01] Ok, my mistake. But it would have been REALLY NICE if developers made it clear that older items get deleted even if we do not clear history!!! [22:02] I bet many other people made my same wrong assumption... [22:02] At least us beginners... [22:02] :) [22:08] i agree, this would be good to point out, to prevent this situation. i have not studieid it's documentation to check whether that's the case, though. [22:13] apparently there is a 'Persistent History' setting on its "Behavior Tab" in preferences. "Adds a list that is permanent and never goes away." [22:43] Yes, that should be default behavior!! :) [22:45] Changing subject, where can you buy online (l)ubuntu notebooks with italian-keyboard? [22:45] Are there official ubuntu-notebooks? [22:46] Where does the ubuntu community buy the hardware from? [22:49] "Sad news for fans of official Ubuntu merchandise: the Ubuntu Shop has closed down!" [22:49] i don't think there is anyplace specific; I buy second hand from a local recycler, they come with ubuntu installed too :) A few companies do sell ubuntu (or flavors) installed on new devices [22:49] There is no other? [22:49] With italian keyboard? [22:51] I see some on foreign ecommerce sites, but not with italian keyboard [22:51] can't help there sorry; UK & DE suppliers I'm aware of, no clue on italian keyboards sorry [22:52] can you please tell me anyways [22:52] (the uk & de suppliers) [22:52] maybe I can ask them to put italian keytboard? [22:53] can the local recycler change the keyboard? [22:54] UK I was thinking of https://www.entroware.com/store/, but sorry when I said local I meant local to me (melb au) - you'd have to check your local recyclers [22:54] ok, that's pretty far for me, aha :) [22:54] thanks [22:56] It's strange they don't care about us Italians, we are many, 60 million... [22:56] https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/ is possibly who I was thinking of in DE; I've heard better things about entroware (UK) though [22:56] Is it difficult to change the keyboard of a notebook? [22:58] Were there ever official ubuntu notebooks? (before the store closed) [22:59] i can't really advise sorry, i've changed a few keyboards on thinkpads (ibm/lenovo) & latitudes (dell) but I believe the ease will vary on model of device - getting replacement keyboard is I suspect largest issue [22:59] OK, I see... [22:59] Definitely better if it comes right away with the right keyboard... [23:00] But nobody cares about us Italians... :( [23:00] :) [23:00] not that I'm aware of .. dell, hp, lenovo & some big make sell ubuntu on devices - but locally trying to find one would be impossible, usually you need to order (IF you can find web page) [23:02] Yes Delll I saw had, but not for Italy... [23:02] bea19: dell can usually offer them with italian keyboards, though it may not be available through the online customization utility [23:02] possibly only B2B, though [23:03] But I once read an article that said they didn't do them for Italy [23:03] I mean with Ubuntu [23:03] https://pilot.search.dell.com/laptops/ubuntu [23:04] They force us on Windows [23:04] "Tastiera interna italiano (non retroilluminata)" [23:07] oh this search doesn't actually work [23:07] you need to search manually for "ubuntu", then you'll find 17 models [23:09] Ok I take a look, hopefully they changed, thankyou [23:09] Grazie :) [23:13] it seems to be a matter of luck whether it lists the windows ones or the ubuntu ones as a result of this search [23:46] When you search from the dellitalian website it gives ZERO results... :( [23:51] Ok maybe found some... [23:52] Thank you all & good night- buona notte :) [23:56] https://www.dell.com/it-it/shop/notebook-dell/sr/laptops/ubuntu?appliedRefinements=9964 [23:57] unfortunately intel only [23:58] amd is better? [23:59] amd integrated graphics are faster than intels',a dn i wouldn't want a dedicated graphics card on a laptop, it just drives up heat and price [23:59] also dell is expensive [23:59] a dn -> and