[13:58] <xubuntu61w> Anyone aware of launchers not working when trying to execute shell script
[13:59] <diogenes_> xubuntu61w, what is the Exec=?
[14:00] <xubuntu61w> Tried mate-terminal -- scriptname   also /bin/bash scriptname
[14:02] <xubuntu61w> When using mate-terminal get G_DBUS errors
[14:02] <rud0lf> `xfce4-terminal -e /path/to/script` maybe?
[14:04] <xubuntu61w> Does xfce4-terminal require a sudo apt install ?
[14:08] <rud0lf> not on default xubuntu which is xfce4
[14:09] <xubuntu61w> I am using Lubuntu now. Am going to try xubuntu...
[14:09] <rud0lf> ah
[14:11] <xubuntu61w> Apparently it has something to do with GUI tie in.
[14:12] <rud0lf> maybe `lxterminal -e /path/to/script.sh`
[14:12] <rud0lf> but `Exec=bash script.sh` should work with no problem
[14:16] <xubuntu61w> Problem is ansi screen control codes get lost. And that
[14:17] <xubuntu61w> screws up applications that use for example cursor position
[14:20] <xubuntu61w> As we speak Xubuntu is installing on a VM to try..
[14:23] <xubuntu61w> By default Lubuntu has something called  qterminal
[14:28] <xubuntu61w> I have these old languages Cobol, Focal, Bybasic and Fortran.
[14:31] <xubuntu61w> Xbuntu is now adding VM guest additions.
[14:32] <jonzen> any1 have any idea how to install chromium on 19.10 without snap   cant stand snap   was nothing wrong with the old way
[14:32] <jonzen> ive tried to find a deb file but cant get any of them to install
[14:35] <jonzen> xubuntu since 2011   now i guess ill have to replace it like the old gnome when they made it all funky
[14:37] <xubuntu61w> I have in some cases seen the newer versions of the OS breaks things.
[14:37] <xubuntu61w> Like between Ubuntu 18.04 and 20.04
[14:39] <xubuntu61w> Like Debian 10 doing any development work is a real pain
[14:40] <xubuntu61w> Missing libraries and applications. Not straight forward like Ubuntu & Mint
[14:42] <xubuntu61w> I like Vim I have it under Linux and Windows...
[14:43] <xubuntu61w> It's nice to have concisity on different platforms.
[14:43] <brainwash> can we focus on your problem with xubuntu (if there is any)?
[14:55] <xubuntu61w> I have not forgotten. It's loading the aps now.
[15:11] <xubuntu61w> It's loading the developers aps now
[15:19] <xubuntu61w> OK this  Exec=/home/ken/bin/cal.sh  works on Xbuntu but not Lbuntu ??
[15:26] <xubuntu61w> I don't understand why one and not the other? Both based on Ubuntu.
[15:28] <brainwash> you would have to ask in the lubuntu channel
[15:29] <brainwash> it works in xubuntu, so there is not much we can help you with
[15:37] <xubuntu61w> On Lubuntu I need   Exec=mate-terminal -- /home/ken/bin/cal.sh
[15:37] <xubuntu61w> and that's where I get gofey results.
[15:42] <xubuntu61w> Actually doing guest adins on both requires:
[15:42] <xubuntu61w> If guest additions do not start automatically. Do the following assuming the folder did show up.References to {username} mean user you loged in with.Start a terminal session (right click on desktop and select open terminal) thencd /media/{username}ls -l  to see version.cd /media/{username}/VBox_GAs_6.1.0  (Or version displayed with ls)sudo
[15:42] <xubuntu61w> ./VBoxLinuxAdditions.run		Enter password for {username} when requestedIt should proceed compiling and wait for the press enter prompt. Takes some time...Reboot using  shutdown -r 0			# 0 means immediate rebootLog in and  open terminal session	thensudo adduser {username} vboxsfexit
[15:43] <xubuntu61w> bye
[16:52] <someone235> Hi, for a weird reason I can't pick the option "span monitors" in my panel preferences. Someone knows what could cause it?
[17:02] <Robert54> What is the most appropriate way to run a 32-bit application on a 64-bit Xubuntu?
[17:27] <tomreyn> Robert54: use a xubuntu release which still supports it, install any i386 libraries it dpeends on, run it.
[17:29] <Robert54> does "Xubuntu 19.10 amd64" support running i386 applications?
[17:29] <tomreyn> some. https://ubuntu.com/blog/statement-on-32-bit-i386-packages-for-ubuntu-19-10-and-20-04-lts
[17:30] <tomreyn> xubuntu builds on the same foundations as ubuntu, this means it can only provide i386 libraries available on default ubuntu (for the same release).
[17:32] <tomreyn> this blog post may require putting into context - originally the plan was to drop i386 support entirely starting 19.10.
[17:32] <Robert54> I've heard that
[17:36] <tomreyn> related: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2019-September/001265.html
[17:36] <Robert54> I'm trying to run FreeArc, and I've tried to install i386 libraries it depends on. Here is the output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sNjfFNYB2g/
[17:37] <Robert54> "apt-file -a i386 search libgmp.so.3" doesn't find any package :(
[17:38] <tomreyn> libgmp is not mentioned on the package list the above mailing list post links to
[17:39] <tomreyn> you can still install an older (x)ubuntu release in chroot / container or VM and use the software there.
[17:39] <Robert54> Is that the easiest way to solve it? or, perhaps, there are some other possible ways...?
[17:40] <Robert54> I've thought of running any Windows in VM and running FreeArc there... but using VMs is not convenient
[17:40] <tomreyn> https://sourceforge.net/projects/freearc/ states "Last Update: 2013-04-03", and the latest release seems to be https://sourceforge.net/projects/freearc/files/FreeArc/FreeArc%200.51/ from 2009. you should translate this as "do not use".
[17:41] <tomreyn> software which was last updated 10 years ago is most definitely full of security bugs.
[17:42] <tomreyn> i suggest you find an alternative software (or maybe someone forked freearc and still maintains it).
[17:42] <Robert54> the latest release (I'm trying to use) was on May 20, 2010, but that does not change the situation, as I suppose...
[17:43] <Robert54> oh, I can't accept the fact that this software works fine on Windows :(
[17:43] <Robert54> Thank you
[17:44] <tomreyn> the same security implications will apply to windows
[17:44] <tomreyn> (or, more likely, worse)
[17:47] <Robert54> I'm also trying to install Guitar Pro (released in 2016) which is 32-bit as well... here is the output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zcr5369Csy/
[17:49] <Robert54> What am I supposed to in this case? "apt-file -a i386 search libportaudio0" does not find anything, but "apt-file -a i386 search gksu" find lots of packages...
[17:49] <Robert54> supposed to do*
[17:52] <Robert54> oh, I'm sorry, I meant these commands: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/R6WNJJdZG7/
[17:54] <tomreyn> Robert54: by pointing you to the list of available i386 packages, i think i provided a way which should generally enable you to detemrine whether a i386 software can be run on ubuntu 19.10 and later.
[17:54] <tomreyn> you probably do not require gksu, though.
[17:54] <tomreyn> (use pkexec or sudo instead)
[17:55] <Robert54> I thought you had meant to say that some 32-bit software might work and some might not
[17:58] <tomreyn> Robert54: yes, that is correct
[17:58] <tomreyn> Robert54: sorry, i should have written "generically", not "generally".
[17:59] <tomreyn> i.e. you now have a means to tell for any given i386-only software (which you know the dpendencies of) whether it can run on 19.10 and later or not.
[18:00] <Robert54> Thank you so much! I wonder if it is possible to install required libs which are not listed on the package list. They've existed in old releases of Ubuntu's package lists I suppose
[18:01] <Robert54> Maybe I could install them myself, somehow... even if they don't work properly
[18:11] <tomreyn> mixing packages from diffierent distributions (or (x)ubuntu releases) is not supported here, and has a good potential of break apt.
[18:12] <Robert54> Okay, I'll keep it in mind
[21:22] <bea19> Hi does someone know Parcellite?