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cluelesspersonqwertuttyty, huh?00:00
jemarkqwertuttyty: lol00:00
qwertuttytycluelessperson: my swap is on an encrypted partition of an NVME with 500,000 IOPsNVME with 500,000 IOPs" the HDD is like a snail compared to the NVME00:00
qwertuttyty2xlol00:01
hggdhqwertuttyty: can we please stay on-topic?00:03
qwertuttytyi  not understand the question00:08
cluelesspersonqwertuttyty, I was confused for a moment, you reversed two nouns. :P00:11
qwertuttytyshorturl.at/fwzEV00:16
cluelesspersonHm.  top says Chrome is using 10GB of virtual memory00:17
cluelesspersonChrome's task memory says it's using ~several GB00:17
qwertuttytyHow much RAM you have. And how many web pages are open or have you viewed, are these video files?00:21
qwertuttytyChromium caches a lot to disk. swap=cache disk?00:27
zaapielhello i need some help00:28
tomreynhello we need some details00:28
fraddo you know of any way to use mkvmerge to cut the first 5 seconds of 30 files in a common directory?00:29
zaapielim trying to get sound working and get this when i run lspci00:29
zaapielAudio device: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family HD Audio Controller (rev 31)00:30
zaapielSubsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Sunrise Point-H HD Audio00:30
zaapielFlags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 32, IRQ 13500:30
zaapielMemory at df520000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]00:30
zaapielMemory at df500000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]00:30
zaapielCapabilities: <access denied>00:30
xnat834[m]I'm trying to run Ubuntu on a low-power Atom tablet with 2 GB of RAM. Which flavor would be best?00:30
zaapielany idea why access is denied?00:31
zaapielalso how would one go about running it as root?00:31
tomreyn!paste | zaapiel00:32
ubottuzaapiel: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.00:32
tomreynwhat you posted here was cut off when you were silenced00:32
tomreynxnat834[m]: one which does not involve kde or gnome, or better no graphical desktop at all.00:33
tomreyn!flavors00:33
ubottuRecognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours00:33
zaapieltomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fzzRGn2BTK/00:33
zaapielalso how would one go about running it as root?00:33
tomreynxnat834[m]: make sure you check the system requirements of them00:34
tomreyn!sudo | zaapiel00:34
ubottuzaapiel: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !pkexec (for older releases: !gksu and !kdesudo). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo00:34
xnat834[m]tomreyn: Well, that doesn't help me much.00:35
tomreynxnat834[m]: ubuntu server should work fine00:35
jemarkzaapiel: https://www.linux-hardware.org/index.php?id=pci:8086-a170-1458-a0b200:36
xnat834[m]tomreyn: That wasn't very useful.00:36
tomreynjemark: where did you get the PCI ID from?00:38
jemarktomreyn: just googling00:38
tomreynso based on "Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family HD Audio Controller (rev 31)"?00:38
jemarktomreyn: indeed00:39
tomreyni'd rather see lspci -nn00:39
zaapielit works it just says access denined?00:39
zaapielhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/f22Qb73qPc/00:41
zaapieltomreyn, jemark ^^00:41
tomreynzaapiel: you can ignore the "access denied" message there, it's normal when you run lspci -v without sudo00:41
tomreyn00:1f.3 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family HD Audio Controller [8086:a170] (rev 31)00:41
zaapielsound doesnt work though00:41
tomreynjemark guessed correctly00:42
tomreyn!sound00:44
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - https://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.00:44
jemarktomreyn: aplay -lL ?00:47
tomreynjemark: works for me, did you mean to ask zaapiel?00:47
jemarktomreyn: :-) yeah. you have given the help pages, thanks.00:50
tomreynthose are a little out of date unfortunately. but most should still work.00:51
tomreynubottu.com has a copy of the factoid db if you every want to search for irc help topics00:52
ubottutomreyn: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:52
tomreyndon't worry, i don't00:52
jemarktomreyn: lol00:54
electric-cowhello )02:07
ryuoMoo.02:08
electric-cowDoes anybody know any channel related to games ? I want to play some on linux02:08
OerHeksplayonlinux, steam or valve02:11
pizzaioloalso minecraft02:12
tonyt#gamingonlinux is another channel02:14
electric-cowoh , I mean, those multiplayers games, it would be nice to find some help or someone who guide me through the installation process and play together02:14
tonytthey have a website to go with the channel too02:15
electric-cowAha, will try  . ty ! )02:15
tonyt:)02:15
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ManouchehriWhere can I see the current /proc/config for a release Ubuntu kernel?02:46
tomreynManouchehri: what's a /proc/config ?02:55
Manouchehritomreyn: kernel config02:55
tomreynon ubuntu you'll have /boot/config-$(uname -r)02:56
lotuspsychjeManouchehri: and what are you trying to do exactly?02:56
Manouchehritomreyn: ahhh thank you!02:57
Manouchehrilotuspsychje: check that CONFIG_F2FS_FS_ENCRYPTION=y was indeed enabled :D02:57
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kyle__Is there a standard set of flags or env variables you can set for figuring out issues with a unity game?03:22
kyle__Like --debug03:22
pragmaticenigmakyle__, That sounds like a question that would be better answered by the developer of the program/game ... since they would have to be the once to implement it03:24
kyle__Possibly.  But you know, many gui toolkits come with standard options.  Like all X programs respect some basic environmental variables, all gnome programs respect some same basic flags, etc.03:31
SirScottw/19.10 server & netplan, i'm having an issue configuring a second network interface to have a static ip *without* having a cable connected.  Basically, this:  https://askubuntu.com/q/104642003:40
SirScottnow according to the answer, that should have been resolved a while ago, but it doesn't seem to be the case.03:41
SirScottanyone have a trick to set a static IP w/netplan without requiring a carier to be present?03:41
Nyle19.10 is not an LTS?03:48
tomreyn!lts03:48
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions are supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Bionic (Bionic Beaver 18.04). Ubuntu !flavors may have different support durations, check their release notes for information.03:48
tomreynso, no, 19.10 is not LTS.03:49
NyleThere you go.03:49
NyleWhen is next lts?03:50
lotuspsychje!fossa03:50
ubottuUbuntu 20.04 (Focal Fossa) will be the 32nd release of Ubuntu, scheduled for April 2020 ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseSchedule ). It will be a long-term support release. Join #ubuntu+1 for support and questions.03:50
NyleThat doesn't mean anything to me.03:51
NyleBut few more months.03:52
NyleTime is illusion. Ubuntu time, doubly so.03:52
NyleCan you upgrade from one LTS to another? Has anyone tried that? Does that make things too different and break?03:54
tomreyn!upgrade03:55
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade03:55
Nylethere we go03:55
ElagostNyle, sometimes things break if you've made some super custom modifications.03:55
tomreynor just have third party software installed03:55
ElagostI recently upgraded a couple machines from 14.04 to 16.04 then to 18.04 and it was smooth sailing.03:56
NyleI did not use a config manager like ansible or puppet03:56
Nyleso when I upgrade to next lts on my server, I wonder if I will have to reinstall03:56
NyleElagost: that sounds promising03:56
ElagostGenerally, with server installs, if you just install stuff from the package manager and make sure to really pay attention to the questions asked during upgrade, you're fine.03:56
ElagostLike with some versions of software, config file formats change. Or it has new default settings. You may wish to merge them or inspect the differences.03:57
NyleI had to reinstall from 16- 1803:57
NyleI would like to avoid that again. It's hassle. I don't have anything custom, just packages from ubuntu, and mariadb latest from their repository03:58
Nyleand php 7.4 ondrej guy's repository03:58
tomreynthere can be other reasons why you'd want to doa fresh installation, though. such as switching to gpt, to uefi booting, to benefit from newer file systems or other block device layers03:58
Elagostyeah ZFS being an option now is exciting!03:59
NyleIt is a vps ony03:59
Nyleonly*03:59
AbhijitHi. what is the purpose of /root/.cache? whits taking 15GB?03:59
Abhijitwhy it is *04:00
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tomreynAbhijit: it's not normally that large, it's a disk cache for the root user.04:01
Abhijitis it safe to delete this folder?04:01
ElagostNyle, you should be fine. Make sure the other repos you use have the 'focal' branch before upgrading though. Usually unofficial repos get disabled on upgrades.04:01
Elagostand doing a release upgrade is just 'do-release-upgrade'. You ever done one before?04:02
NyleI have not04:03
tomreynAbhijit: i'd say so, yes. it's just cache. there could be software which would fail if a cached file it created is suddenly missing, but this shouldn't be so, i'd say.04:03
NyleI come from debian, so I know how to do thigns like apt-get dist-upgrade etc. after updating the apt sources04:04
Nyleready made scripts sounds useful04:04
lotuspsychjekeep it ontopic nyle04:04
lotuspsychjeubuntu support questions here04:04
Abhijittomreyn, ok04:07
tomreynAbhijit: in your situation i'd primarily want to understand what's allocated 15 GB there04:07
Abhijitits a very long random name of a file.04:08
Abhijitjust one file.04:08
slyrobotI am trying to install Ubuntu but I get an error noveau freezed at FFFFFFFFF04:09
pragmaticenigmakyle__, There is no standard when it comes to debugging. And the best people to get into contact with are those that created said toolkit. So if you're wondering if Unity has some sort of debugging ability, I would be seeking out a Unity forum/community to ask for help04:09
tomreynAbhijit: directly in /root/.cache/ ? or in a subdirectory?04:09
tomreynslyrobot: which ubuntu version are you trying to install there? can you show a screen shot (maybe an old fashioned one, taken with a smartphone, shared via imgur.com)?04:10
slyrobotSure.04:10
slyrobotUbuntu 18.04 and 19.0404:11
tomreyn18.04.0 then? or .1, .2, .3?04:11
tomreyni wouldn't recommend 19.04 nowadays, it's almost end of life04:11
Abhijittomreyn, inside /root/.cache/04:12
slyrobotMy apologies. 18.04.3 and 19.0404:12
tomreynok, take a screenshot then, if you can. and maybe tell us about the hardware you have there, too.04:13
slyrobottomreyn:  i5 6300HQ, Nvidia GTX 960M. https://imgur.com/gallery/YgBaLTi04:18
Abhijittomreyn, deleted and rebooted. no issues so far!04:20
tomreynslyrobot: do you have a "failsafe graphics" option on the boot screen?04:20
slyrobotnomodeset ?04:21
tomreynslyrobot: yes, this could help04:21
tomreynAbhijit: nice.04:21
slyrobotI have a multiboot USB which doesn't give me the GRUB screen to add nomodeset. Anyother work around ?04:22
tomreynslyrobot: which boot loader is it using then?04:22
slyrobotIt is using GRUB. But when I select the option of kubuntu it doesn't show me options for Kubuntu. Wait lemme show you. Please wait.04:23
tomreynyou'd press "e" while kubuntu is highlighted04:24
slyrobothttps://imgur.com/gallery/m4WRXM6 I have tried to explain hopefully I have explained it good.04:30
slyrobottomreyn ?04:35
tomreynslyrobot: i see the problem. you'd need to edit this grub.cfg before booting off the usb04:36
slyrobottomreyn ok. What would I have to add ?04:37
tomreyn"nomodeset" right before the three dashes on the line starting with "linux"04:37
tomreyni can't guarantee this will work, though, since you're basically not booting a standard ubuntu installer here.04:39
slyrobottomreyn I am sorry I don't follow.04:41
wedrSuper duper apologies, as I'm trying to fix my Ubuntu 16.04 Unity not displaying launcher and stuffs thanks to Compiz bug04:42
slyrobottomreyn https://pastebin.com/Jp0zvY79 this is my grub.cfg for Kubuntu.04:43
tomreynslyrobot: i'm saying grub and the grub menu are part of the ubuntu iso, which you'd normally write on a usb attached storage or cd-/dvd-rom/rw and boot off it. it would then show a different grub menu with different options, which we can support here. what you have there is different.04:43
slyrobottomreyn: No I understand that. I am not sure about where you wanted me to place nomodeset.04:44
tomreynslyrobot: so if you'll add "nomodeset" to the end of the "linux" line there it *may* work, but it's not a standard ubuntu installer.04:44
tomreynthere's just one line which starts with the word "linux", right? there are no three dashes on your configuration indeed. so just place "nomodeset" to the end of this "linux" line.04:45
slyrobotline 36 ?04:45
tomreynright04:45
slyrobotThank you.04:46
SE7EN`nomodeset has saved my life in a few situations.04:46
slyrobotJust curious anyway you see I can make the config call for Ubuntu installer ? I am asking because in Debian the grub menu does appear. I you want I can share that config as well.04:47
slyrobot*If you04:47
tomreynno idea, slyrobot04:49
slyrobottomreyn thank you for your help.04:50
tomreynslyrobot: actually if you edit line 9 to say "set timeout=3" you'd be able to edit it, i guess.04:51
tomreynalternatively edit line 10 to not have the timeout but have the menu always show04:51
tomreynand you'Re welcome04:52
slyrobottomreyn Thank wil try. That line 36 trick didn't work.04:52
tomreyni suggest you create a standard ubuntu installer then04:52
tomreynor kubuntu for this matter04:52
slyrobottomreyn Looks like thats what I ultimately will have to do.04:52
slyrobottomreyn  TIMEOUT_STYLE=show ?04:54
tomreynslyrobot: this is from ubuntu's manual on grub - it *may* also apply to other grub distributions such as the one you're using: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bMJKRW9VGF/04:56
tomreynbut indeed i don't want to spend more time on your custom installer.04:57
slyrobottomreyn thank you. I won't take anymore of your time.04:58
tomreynoh i'm happy to support ubuntu04:58
slyrobotI am sure you are.04:58
tomreynso if oyu have any question son how to install ubuntu or other installation issues with the standard ubuntu installer, feel free to ask. :)04:59
slyrobotOk.05:00
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meonkeyswould someone mind reviewing https://askubuntu.com/a/1197611 and upvoting it if it is correct? I think the other answer is very much incorrect (even though it has a fancy screenshot)05:27
meonkeysI'd maybe go so far to say hiding that "managed" message is dangerous. Malware might install policies you don't want, for example. Or your employer might do something to your browser you weren't expecting.05:28
meonkeysoh and if someone else has a better answer I will for sure upvote and accept it05:29
guivercmeonkeys, fyi: I had a look, but I don't know enough/anything about it sorry  (my chromium is unmanaged so I can't test it)05:39
* guiverc apologizes to room, I thought this was -discuss; Sorry05:39
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martiansoulI am trying to write a command `scp myname@20.0.181.23:/usr/bin/df .` - it is showing an error that `20.0.181.23` refused to connect06:36
martiansoulit is showing `ssh: connect to host 20.0.181.63 port 22: Connection refused` to be precise.06:37
tomreynmartiansoul: so you're unable to connect to this ip address at this port.06:39
tomreynis this unexpected?06:39
martiansoulyes. because i can ssh there.06:40
martiansoultomreyn, i can ssh there using my credentials.06:40
tomreynmartiansoul: note how your error message had a different ip address than the command you showed initially06:40
martiansouloh. that's my bad - i must have mistyped it. it's showing the same address as that in my command.06:41
martiansouljust rechecked it.06:41
mousesmartiansoul: you using a cert based login?  If so, you'll need to feed scp the cert06:42
martiansouli have an opvn access to the remote server. after that i use ssh.06:43
mousesahhhhh probably a better question for #openvpn06:43
mouseslikely a routing issue06:43
tomreynmartiansoul: in case the issue persists: when you are connected to the remote server by ssh, run:   echo $SSH_CONNECTION06:44
tomreynthis will show where you're connecting from and to06:44
tomreynfrom the remote servers' perspective06:44
martiansoulit's showing `20.0.0.50 58122 20.0.181.23 10122`06:46
tomreynso you actually need to connect to port 10122 on 20.0.181.2306:47
tomreynnot the standard port 2206:47
martiansoulhow do i specify that in my command?06:47
tomreynscp -o 'Port 22' myname@20.0.181.23:/usr/bin/df .06:48
tomreynor just06:48
tomreynscp -P 10122 myname@20.0.181.23:/usr/bin/df .06:48
martiansoultomreyn done. thanks06:48
tomreynthe first one was wrong also, should have said 'Port 10122'06:49
martiansoultomreyn, i got disconnected, but it's still showing `/etc/profile.d/lang.sh: line 19: warning: setlocale: LC_CTYPE: cannot change locale (UTF-8): No such file or directoryscp: heapdump-1577138916010.hprof: Permission denied`07:11
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szymon_ghi08:17
lotuspsychjewelcome szymon_g08:17
szymon_gis it me or does the super key + arrow up does not make a windows full screen? it used to, didn't it?08:17
TelerophonIt's still doing that for me in Gnome 308:18
szymon_garrow + right or left moves the window, but up or down doesn't seem to have an effect08:18
lotuspsychjesame here on gnome, works08:18
szymon_g:S08:18
lotuspsychjewich ubuntu version are you on szymon_g ?08:18
szymon_gi've installed unity as well, but i dont' see how it could have changed it08:18
szymon_glotuspsychje, 19.0408:19
lotuspsychjeszymon_g: with gnome? or another flavour?08:19
TelerophonAre you using the unity desktop or gnome right now?08:19
szymon_ginstalled today, nothing changed apart from icon theme + unity (for the old days sake)08:19
szymon_gaye, gnome08:19
szymon_ggnome right now08:19
szymon_glogged in through the lightdm but i don't see how would that change anything tbh08:19
szymon_gnothing has been changed in gnome keyboard and mouse options08:20
lotuspsychjeszymon_g: unity & gnome might have different hotkeys08:20
TelerophonI am looking to see if there's anything for you in Tweaks > Keyboard & Mouse08:21
szymon_gaye, perhaps. but i'm on gnome now. it should work (and it works as long as it's right or left key)08:21
TelerophonI forgot where the config for that is.08:22
lotuspsychjeszymon_g: hotkeys combo's are now shown in systemsettings08:22
lotuspsychjemaybe you changed something?08:22
lotuspsychjeszymon_g: systemsettings/devices/hotkeys08:23
TelerophonYeah, the setting is Windows > Maximize Window --- Super+Up08:24
szymon_gno hotkeys option. just 'keyboard shortcuts'08:24
TelerophonSettings > Devices > Keyboard08:25
szymon_gaye, it's here08:25
szymon_gwhere is the minimise window? how is it called?08:25
Telerophonin that list, do you have the Maximize Window shortcut set to Super+Up08:25
szymon_gi do, now08:26
szymon_git was not bind08:26
szymon_g*set08:26
szymon_gbut I cant see the option for super+ down, to minimize the window08:26
TelerophonExcellent08:26
TelerophonJust set it again and see if it works now08:26
szymon_git works, thanks.08:27
TelerophonThere isn't really a "Minimize", there's Super+H to Hide and Super+Down to restore a maximized window08:27
szymon_gi've set it to hide the window. good enough for me :)08:29
szymon_gthanks, and merry christmas guys (ang gals)!08:29
alazyworkaholicI need to kill mpd but it keeps restarting with a new PID. I've run sudo systemctl mpd stop and killed the PID to no avail. What to do to kill it for good??08:33
alazyworkaholicrather, stop mpd08:35
Chaserdoes masking the service help ?08:50
Telerophonalazyworkaholic, have you tried systemctl mpd disable08:55
alazyworkaholicDidn't work09:07
alazyworkaholicEven after mpd disable it still respawns with a new PID09:08
TelerophonThat's weird. Sorry I don't have more insights into that.09:10
TelerophonIf you reboot after MPD disable, does it still start?09:10
alazyworkaholiclsof shows this file keeps being opened by mpd: /2TBhdd/alan/Meta_Music/mpd/sticker.sql    I just want to unmount the drive.09:12
Telerophonalazyworkaholic, I wish I knew more, but there does appear to be an #mpd channel on this server.09:22
Telerophonmaybe they can give you more specific guidance.09:22
alazyworkaholicGenerically then, is there a way to force-close a file and prevent it from being open again by any process?09:43
makaveli7what kind of file is that?10:17
EriC^^alazyworkaholic: kill the process that has it open10:18
EriC^^and disable mpd temporarily10:19
SE7EN`alazyworkaholic, yes just use chmod to set permissions as needed.10:35
SE7EN`after you snuff out the process that was doing the dirty.10:36
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irgendwer4711hi, whats the default way to set some io-schedulers?10:50
imihi. I have an usb c to ethernet adapter, plugged into an usbc to usb3 adapter, plugged into an usb3 hub, plugged into my computer :) now into this usb hub there are several other things plugged in (usb 1 HID, and usb 3 as well). however somethimes when I boot up this machine the ethernet port does not work. my solution to this is to unplug and reattach the usbc to usb3 adapter to the hub. is there a software workaround? for instance is11:26
imithere a "detach and reattach this device" shell command?11:26
irgendwer4711https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/7412/how-to-reconnect-a-logically-disconnected-usb-device11:28
imiirgendwer4711: thanks, I'll need to try that11:35
irgendwer4711or this https://marc.info/?l=linux-usb&m=121459435621262&q=p311:36
ramsub07Merry Christmas to all. I'm trying to install qt-sdk on my ubuntu 18.04 however it fails. I remember installing the same on 16.0411:36
dionysus69audio (pulse) detects my usb webcam with mic, says quickcam for notebooks analog mono11:37
dionysus69but it has no video or audio in any application, how can I troubleshoot this?11:37
imiirgendwer4711: ok thank you :)11:39
ApachezT minus 2h15min and counting...11:44
BluesKajHiyas all12:09
BluesKajMerry Christmas to those who celebrate it12:26
goalisthi12:33
goalistfont on terminal weechat too small how to increase it12:33
goalistI am inside tmux as well12:33
irgendwer4711hi, whats the default way to set some io-schedulers?12:46
sixwheeledbeastI imagine CFQ is fine for most applications.12:50
irgendwer4711and this is not set12:52
akikirgendwer4711: i set it through an udev rule12:53
irgendwer4711for harddisks?12:53
akikirgendwer4711: yes and ssds12:53
irgendwer4711ssd got this new mq scheduler12:54
akikirgendwer4711: an io scheduler that only works with ssds?12:57
irgendwer4711yep12:57
akikwhat's it called?12:58
irgendwer4711multiqueue12:58
irgendwer4711https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Reference/IOSchedulers12:59
irgendwer4711"none" seems to be standard12:59
akiki don't see it mentioned that mq wouldn't work with hdds13:04
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irgendwer4711its too slow, because none is selected at boot13:07
eamonnmrIs there a preferred solution for backing up your install? I've got a dual boot set up on this laptop, and I'd like to replace the HDD with as little workflow lossage as possible.13:18
irgendwer4711clonezilla13:24
sixwheeledbeastdidn't reliase CFQ is depreciated in kernels 5.3=>13:31
cmdaltescapeIs Kubuntu 19.10 totally compatible with Ubuntu 19.10 desktop?13:34
OerHekscmdaltescape, what do you mean with compatible?13:35
OerHekskde and gnome are different desktops, both can do what you need to do, just different programms13:36
cmdaltescapeOerHeks, but under the hood it's all the same? no?13:36
OerHeksno, they use the same kerel and tools. the rest is different.13:37
cmdaltescapeOerHeks, why would should I use Kubuntu and not just 1) minimual ubuntu install, 2) manually add KDE to it?13:37
OerHeksthat is a different issue: minimal + kde desktop gives you kubuntu13:38
OerHeksone can install many desktops with the minimal iso, adding one is no problem, removing one can be interesting13:39
sixwheeledbeastI suppose you would pick a flavour if you know you only want that DE13:42
pikapikaIf I found a bug with a program available in the repos where is the appropriate place to report it: ubuntu's bug db or that projects website?13:54
OerHeksdepends what repo, pikapika13:55
pikapikaLet me check13:56
pikapikaOerHeks, bionic universe13:58
OerHeksyes, ubuntu-bug would be the right place13:58
OerHeks!bug13:58
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.13:58
pikapikaOk. Thanks!13:58
OerHeksmore info about repos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu13:59
TheM4rcoHello, I have a security problem, I got root access to my ISP FTTH router, and I saw that there are 6 Ip addresses that have rights to my router right? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VGx2yWMTGj/14:05
irgendwer4711TheM4rco: no14:26
ramsub07Hi, how do i find the build directory of VTK?14:59
shibbolethbionic apt repo appears broken15:22
shibbolethlibpulse-dev : Depends: libpulse0 (= 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.4) but 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.5 is to be installed15:22
shibbolethanyone feel like doing an "apt-get upgrade" , "apt-get install libpulse-dev" to confirm?15:25
shibbolethnothing bad will happen15:26
OerHeksdid you properly run apt update first? seems like old lists.15:27
OerHeksor the mirror was in sync15:27
shibbolethtried several15:29
shibbolethmind doing "apt-cache show libpulse0"?15:29
shibboleth...ubuntu7.4 or-7.5?15:30
OerHeks1:11.1-1ubuntu7.515:31
shibbolethmind doing "apt-cache show libpulse-dev"?15:31
shibbolethdepends on 7.4 or 7.5?15:31
OerHeksthat -dev is 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.4 ..15:32
OerHeksDepends: libpulse0 (= 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.4), libpulse-mainloop-glib0 (= 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.4), libglib2.0-dev15:32
shibbolethyeah, so your cache/mirror is also broken15:32
ioriashibboleth, you can try with the proposed veriosn : 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.5 ; you might need to enable the -proposed repo15:34
ioria*version15:34
OerHeksindeed in proposed https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/amd64/libpulse-dev/1:11.1-1ubuntu7.515:34
shibbolethyeah, or someone who knows someone with some clout might wanna prick their shoulder15:35
OerHekshmm .. deleted .. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/amd64/libpulse-dev15:35
ioriashibboleth, confirm the -proposed will install correctly15:36
shibbolethi don't have rights to edit sources.list on this dev-server15:37
shibboleth rights/privs15:37
ioriashibboleth, downlaod the deb15:37
shibbolethworking remotely, metered15:38
shibbolethxmas15:38
shibbolethOerHeks, yeah, not like that package might come in handy :)15:46
hggdhOerHeks: what is the "undelete" program we were discussing a few weeks ago? Do you remember?15:47
SimonNLrecover app ?    maybe photorec15:49
hggdhthanks, let me check15:49
SimonNLforgot how it's named in ubuntu repo15:49
SimonNLtestdisk I think hggdh15:50
shibbolethddrescue?15:51
shibboleththere are utilities that'll find deleted files in ext4, btrfs15:52
OerHeksext3undelete ??15:57
OerHeks!info ext3undelete15:57
ubottuPackage ext3undelete does not exist in eoan15:57
OerHeks!info extundelete15:58
ubottuextundelete (source: extundelete): utility to recover deleted files from ext3/ext4 partition. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.4-2 (eoan), package size 52 kB, installed size 151 kB15:58
OerHeksextundelete /dev/sda4 --restore-all15:58
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ramsub07Hello, I'd like to install this package : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgphoto2/2.5.16-2 . is it possible to install with aptitude?17:20
ioria!info libgphoto2-6 bionic | ramsub0717:25
ubotturamsub07: libgphoto2-6 (source: libgphoto2): gphoto2 digital camera library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.16-2 (bionic), package size 810 kB, installed size 3854 kB17:25
OerHekson bionic, yes, install aptitude first17:33
ramsub07 thanks!!17:33
jeremy31ramsub07: Did you get the problem fixed from a week ago?17:36
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Hay207Hi guys, I have lubuntu, after trying suspend, laptop won't boot ever19:59
tomreynhello Hay207. which ubuntu version is it, and are you saying you cannot reboot at all now, or just that it doesn't resume?20:00
Hay20719.10 , can't boot at all20:01
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tomreynHay207: whats your computer?20:04
Hay207Hp pavilion DV 520:04
Hay207With Nvidia card20:04
tomreynHay207: hold the power button for 15 seconds20:05
Hay207Then20:06
Hay2075 seconds forces shutdown20:07
tomreynHay207: its already off though, right?20:07
Hay207Yes20:07
tomreyna 10 second press while its off may help it switch on. if that's not enough, try 1.5 minutes, this may clear nvram20:08
tomreyni'll look up the manual in the meantime.20:08
Hay207We'll just worked20:08
tomreynhow do you mean?20:08
Hay207Well just worked20:08
tomreynso the system is now booting?20:08
Hay207Yes20:08
Hay207:)20:08
tomreynok, look for a bios update next.20:09
Hay207Searched forums, could not find an answer20:09
Hay207Thanks20:09
tomreyn"Hp pavilion DV 5" is just a series, not a precise model, but running   journalctl -b | grep 'DMI:'  will tell20:09
Hay2071116 em20:10
tomreynhmm, can't find HP Pavilion DV5-1116em20:11
tomreynit does exist though20:13
Hay207Model written below covering20:13
tomreyni.e. not a typo20:13
Hay207So in all laptops a 10 seconds clears vram?20:14
tomreynno, but some20:14
OerHekshttps://am4computers.com/main/viewProductDetails.php?id=260220:15
Hay207Ok bye, thanks again20:16
tomreynthanks. there is DV5-1000 seriesn and DV5-1200 series20:16
tomreynyou should still look for a bios upgrade, i guess20:16
OerHeksIntel Core 2 Duo Processor T5800, no extra gpu20:17
marcoagpintomore recent than my T4200 or so :)20:18
OerHeksIntel 4 Series Express Chipset Family Graphics20:18
marcoagpintoPentium Dual-Core T4300 2.10 GHz20:18
marcoagpintoahhh.. it is 430020:19
OerHeksnot sure why that would crash, hold shift @ boot to enter grub menu20:19
marcoagpinto:)20:19
tomreynthey're gone20:21
Raoul_Hi guys, anyone able to help me identify some audio issues? I'm a massive linux noob so not really sure what to do. I'm using Ubuntu 18.04 and following a reboot last night all of my sound cards have disappeared meaning I no longer have any audio. aplay -l shows "no soundcards found"20:31
compdocRaoul_, is it possible it was disabled in the bios?20:34
Raoul_compdoc, i booted onto another partition which also has ubuntu insatlled and it works fine in there20:36
jerichowasahoaxI'm trying to use udev rules to allow users in the "input" group to write to files in /sys belonging to my DualShock 4, but they don't do anything. What's wrong with them? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pnVh2qKDxV/20:39
jerichowasahoaxI ran `sudo udevadm control --reload-rules && sudo udevadm trigger` after editing them, and also disconnected and reconnected the controller, so I know udev is aware of the rules, at least20:40
DrManhattanGood afternoon - I am using ubuntu server and when I migrated the install to another host, I appear to have lost use of my rtl8111/8168 NIC20:50
DrManhattanI have followed online guides, even tried installing the proprietary driver, but networking doesn't seem to start, ever20:50
DrManhattanthere doesn't appear to be ifup/down anymore and I find myself at a loss20:51
OerHeks!info r8168-dkms20:52
ubottur8168-dkms (source: r8168): dkms source for the r8168 network driver. In component universe, is extra. Version 8.047.02-1 (eoan), package size 95 kB, installed size 1352 kB20:52
OerHeksthat dkms should fix that prop driver20:52
OerHekssudo apt add-repository universe && sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade20:53
OerHeksmaybe a reboot is needed, then install the DKM20:54
OerHeksoh wait, no networking at all?20:54
DrManhattanthere is no networking at all20:56
DrManhattanit has simply disappeared.20:56
DrManhattanthe live USB works fine.20:57
DrManhattanI am at my wits end really. I don't know what is causing the issue or how to resolve it.20:57
DrManhattanmodule is loaded, lights are up on the device, but I don't have the ability to bring networking up20:57
DrManhattanthere's not even an ifup or ifdown anymore20:58
DrManhattandoesn't seem to be any options to bring networking as a service up or down at all20:58
tomreynDrManhattan: ip link set XXX up21:05
tomreynXXX being the NIC device name21:05
DrManhattanthx21:06
tomreynDrManhattan: you're saying you "migrated the install to another host". how did you do the migration? how did oyu instll on the new host, and is this ubuntu running on bare metal, and was it previously?21:07
tomreynand if bare metal, do those systems have the same or different specs?21:07
DrManhattanbare metal, swapped the drive over, intel to intel, same chipset21:07
tomreynand same NICs?21:07
DrManhattanlet me check, I think so21:08
tomreynlspci -knn | grep -EA3 '(Network|Ethernet) controller' | nc termbin.com 999921:08
DrManhattanUGH, no, looks different21:09
DrManhattanbroadcom vs rtl8111E21:09
DrManhattanprobably have to back off the use of HWE kernel21:09
tomreynso it was some broadcom, and is now one or more of rtl8111E?21:10
tomreyni guess r8168-dkms should work with hwe21:11
OerHeks r8168 is the Linux device driver released for RTL8111E, and more21:11
DrManhattansigh, how do I find what the link was named to? enp0s1 isn't working, that's what it was before21:12
tomreynjournalctl -b | grep 'renamed from'21:13
tomreynor just "ip link"21:13
tomreynhttps://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/21:15
tomreyn"What precisely has changed in v197?" discusses the naming scheme21:15
DrManhattanok its up21:15
DrManhattanthank you21:15
DrManhattanhow do I perpetuate these changed21:15
DrManhattanchanges21:15
DrManhattanmake sure that the link is up when it reboots?21:16
tomreynwhich framework is the system using for network management?21:16
DrManhattanI'm on 18.04, not sure21:16
DrManhattanthese things tend to change with every release21:16
tomreynnew 18.04 server installations would use systemd-networkd21:16
tomreyn+ netplan21:16
tomreyn!netplan21:17
ubottuNetplan is a network configuration abstraction renderer which uses YAML descriptions of a network to work with either a NetworkManager or Systemd-networkd "renderer". More information at https://netplan.io/21:17
OerHeksip link would tell what the device names are, old and new21:17
OerHeksand sudo ip link delete <name> would remove it ; then  ip link set XXX up  to setup your current one21:18
DrManhattanOerHeks: how do I perpetuate those changes21:18
tomreynhttps://netplan.io/examples#configuration21:20
tomreyni.e. start by editing /etc/netplan/config.yaml21:20
DrManhattan01-netcfg.yaml21:21
DrManhattanugh - how do I restart the networking service to change this21:22
DrManhattanI miss the good ole sudo service networking days21:22
tomreynsudo netplan apply21:22
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tomreynyou'll need to get yourself familiarized with netplan.21:23
tomreynthat or systemd-networkd, or network-manager21:24
DrManhattansure, then when 20.04 comes out, everything will be completely different, and I'll have to learn something new all over again21:24
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tomreyni dont thnk so. but i hear you.21:25
DrManhattanthat did it guys, thank you very much for your self, tomreyn and OerHeks21:32
DrManhattanfor your helpo21:32
tomreyn:) you'Re welcome, DrManhattan21:40
DrManhattanI've been using linux since the turn of the century - redhat 7.2 - the open one :)21:41
DrManhattanI was getting ready to use that box as a toilet21:41
OerHekshave fun!21:42
AavarHow can I list where grub is installed on my system?21:53
ChunkyzAavar: lsblk will show where /boot is21:57
cluelesspersonDoes anyone know how to delete caribou, the on screen keyboard, out completely?21:57
cluelesspersonNow it's stuck on the screen, and won't go away21:57
OerHeksthere is a blocker https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1326/block-caribou/21:58
AavarChunkyz: that will not work on older systems, right?21:59
ChunkyzWill work on any Linux distribution22:00
jhutchinsIs there a link to the upgrade process?  I have a system that may be several versions old.22:00
ChunkyzFresh install jhutchins22:01
OerHeks!eolupgrade22:01
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades22:01
ChunkyzUpgrades can cause problems22:01
OerHeksbut a fresh one is a good suggestion22:01
cluelesspersonOerHeks, I have the blocker installed.22:02
cluelesspersonjhutchins, I highly suggest you just freshly install.22:02
cluelesspersonjhutchins, Linux can usually upgrade fairly seamlessly, but if you have many services you rely on, it's important you have well maintained backups and the ability to reinstall22:02
OerHeksfirst prepare a fresj 18.04 usb22:03
OerHeksor go wild, gnome on 19.10 is awesome22:03
cluelesspersonOerHeks, I don't know if it's gnome's fault, but i've had many issues on 19.1022:03
* Chunkyz only uses LTS22:04
cluelesspersonChunkyz, I'm considering reinstalling to LTS22:04
ChunkyzDo it22:05
OerHeksoke, if your ubuntu is really out of date, the latest intel migitations may ruin your experience22:05
cluelesspersonOerHeks, how does that work anyway?22:06
cluelesspersonI bet this onscreen keyboard would go away if I restart, but I shouldn't have to22:06
cluelesspersonbbs22:08
jhutchinscluelessperson: Just a low-end general purpose desktop.22:12
jhutchinsubottu: upgrade22:13
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade22:13
jhutchinsShutting down for floppy cable installation.22:13
OerHeksSanta, save him22:14
OsmodivsHello. I have Ubuntu 18.04.3, I want to add myself to various groups, instead of typing in the terminal I am going to edit /etc/group. Is this the right file to edit?22:15
OerHeksi would not do that, just run:  usermod -a -G group1,group2,group3 username22:17
OerHeksthen logout/login22:17
Phruisdoes ubuntu have webkit2gtk?22:18
OerHeks!find webkit2gtk22:19
ubottuFound: libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37, libwebkit2gtk-4.0-dev, libwebkit2gtk-4.0-doc, libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37-gtk2, webkit2gtk-driver, W:, W:, W:, W:, W: (and 17106 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=webkit2gtk&searchon=names&suite=eoan&section=all22:19
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PhruisOerHeks, guess so22:22
Phruisthanks22:22
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Osmodivs OerHeks, I'll follow your advice, but just for curiosity, why should I not edit the /etc/group file?22:37
ryuoOsmodivs: that's not a file you should edit by hand.22:54
Osmodivsryuo: Why  not?23:03
akemhpHey, if i access/mount an SMB drive with Nautilus or Nemo it works fine, but anyone knows where it is located to list it using the terminal?23:04
ryuoOsmodivs: because it's primarily editted programatically. if you try to edit it by hand, you may leave it in an unreadable state.23:04
Osmodivsryuo: I was just reading some posts on forums and someone said he was doing it for years and no bad things happened23:05
ryuoOsmodivs: i've used Linux for years, but the user and group database files are something I never edit by hand. use the proper tools instead.23:05
OsmodivsAnd, since I can't add myself to groups:  usermod: group '' does not exist23:06
ryuowhat are you trying to do?23:06
OsmodivsI was just editing the file, actually, I just saved the file...23:06
Osmodivsryuo: I'm trying to be in all groups to have access to all features in case I need them23:07
ryuo._.23:07
ryuoYou might as well do everything as root if you're going to do that.23:07
ryuoBut that's not recommended either.23:08
ryuo$root23:09
ryuoubottu: root23:09
ubottuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo23:09
ryuoOh.23:09
Osmodivsryuo: anyway...23:10
OsmodivsI'll reboot and see what happens23:10
akemhpNm, i found /run/user/<uid>/gvfs.23:10
OsmodivsWell, nothing went wrong, editing /etc/groups file was accepted by my system: $ groups23:18
Osmodivsadministrador root daemon bin sys adm tty disk lp mail news uucp man proxy kmem dialout fax voice cdrom floppy tape sudo audio dip www-data backup operator list irc src gnats shadow utmp video sasl plugdev staff games users systemd-journal systemd-network systemd-resolve input crontab syslog messagebus netdev mlocate ssl-cert uuidd avahi-autoipd bluetooth rtkit ssh lpadmin whoopsie scanner saned pulse pulse-access avahi colord geoc23:18
Osmodivsvnstat nogroup23:18
OsmodivsAny group I'm missing here?23:18
Osmodivs:D23:18
ChunkyzWow23:19
ryuo"Don't try this at home kids."23:19
OsmodivsThat's the fun part about Linux23:20
shibbolethseason greetings23:34
shibbolethany word re broken apt repos?23:35
Bashing-omshibboleth: What do you see that might be broke about the repo ?23:44
shibboleth<shibboleth> mind doing "apt-cache show libpulse-dev"?23:45
shibboleth<shibboleth> depends on 7.4 or 7.5?23:45
shibboleth<OerHeks> that -dev is 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.4 ..23:45
shibboleth<OerHeks> Depends: libpulse0 (= 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.4), libpulse-mainloop-glib0 (= 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.4), libglib2.0-dev23:45
shibboleth<shibboleth> yeah, so your cache/mirror is also broken23:45

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