[00:00] <cluelessperson> qwertuttyty, huh?
[00:00] <jemark> qwertuttyty: lol
[00:00] <qwertuttyty> cluelessperson: my swap is on an encrypted partition of an NVME with 500,000 IOPsNVME with 500,000 IOPs" the HDD is like a snail compared to the NVME
[00:01] <qwertuttyty> 2xlol
[00:03] <hggdh> qwertuttyty: can we please stay on-topic?
[00:08] <qwertuttyty> i  not understand the question
[00:11] <cluelessperson> qwertuttyty, I was confused for a moment, you reversed two nouns. :P
[00:16] <qwertuttyty> shorturl.at/fwzEV
[00:17] <cluelessperson> Hm.  top says Chrome is using 10GB of virtual memory
[00:17] <cluelessperson> Chrome's task memory says it's using ~several GB
[00:21] <qwertuttyty> How much RAM you have. And how many web pages are open or have you viewed, are these video files?
[00:27] <qwertuttyty> Chromium caches a lot to disk. swap=cache disk?
[00:28] <zaapiel> hello i need some help
[00:28] <tomreyn> hello we need some details
[00:29] <frad> do you know of any way to use mkvmerge to cut the first 5 seconds of 30 files in a common directory?
[00:29] <zaapiel> im trying to get sound working and get this when i run lspci
[00:30] <zaapiel> Audio device: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family HD Audio Controller (rev 31)
[00:30] <zaapiel> 	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Sunrise Point-H HD Audio
[00:30] <zaapiel> 	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 32, IRQ 135
[00:30] <zaapiel> 	Memory at df520000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
[00:30] <zaapiel> 	Memory at df500000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
[00:30] <zaapiel> 	Capabilities: <access denied>
[00:30] <xnat834[m]> I'm trying to run Ubuntu on a low-power Atom tablet with 2 GB of RAM. Which flavor would be best?
[00:31] <zaapiel> any idea why access is denied?
[00:31] <zaapiel> also how would one go about running it as root?
[00:32] <tomreyn> !paste | zaapiel
[00:32] <tomreyn> what you posted here was cut off when you were silenced
[00:33] <tomreyn> xnat834[m]: one which does not involve kde or gnome, or better no graphical desktop at all.
[00:33] <tomreyn> !flavors
[00:33] <zaapiel> tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fzzRGn2BTK/
[00:33] <zaapiel> also how would one go about running it as root?
[00:34] <tomreyn> xnat834[m]: make sure you check the system requirements of them
[00:34] <tomreyn> !sudo | zaapiel
[00:35] <xnat834[m]> tomreyn: Well, that doesn't help me much.
[00:35] <tomreyn> xnat834[m]: ubuntu server should work fine
[00:36] <jemark> zaapiel: https://www.linux-hardware.org/index.php?id=pci:8086-a170-1458-a0b2
[00:36] <xnat834[m]> tomreyn: That wasn't very useful.
[00:38] <tomreyn> jemark: where did you get the PCI ID from?
[00:38] <jemark> tomreyn: just googling
[00:38] <tomreyn> so based on "Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family HD Audio Controller (rev 31)"?
[00:39] <jemark> tomreyn: indeed
[00:39] <tomreyn> i'd rather see lspci -nn
[00:39] <zaapiel> it works it just says access denined?
[00:41] <zaapiel> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/f22Qb73qPc/
[00:41] <zaapiel> tomreyn, jemark ^^
[00:41] <tomreyn> zaapiel: you can ignore the "access denied" message there, it's normal when you run lspci -v without sudo
[00:41] <tomreyn> 00:1f.3 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family HD Audio Controller [8086:a170] (rev 31)
[00:41] <zaapiel> sound doesnt work though
[00:42] <tomreyn> jemark guessed correctly
[00:44] <tomreyn> !sound
[00:47] <jemark> tomreyn: aplay -lL ?
[00:47] <tomreyn> jemark: works for me, did you mean to ask zaapiel?
[00:50] <jemark> tomreyn: :-) yeah. you have given the help pages, thanks.
[00:51] <tomreyn> those are a little out of date unfortunately. but most should still work.
[00:52] <tomreyn> ubottu.com has a copy of the factoid db if you every want to search for irc help topics
[00:52] <tomreyn> don't worry, i don't
[00:54] <jemark> tomreyn: lol
[02:07] <electric-cow> hello )
[02:08] <ryuo> Moo.
[02:08] <electric-cow> Does anybody know any channel related to games ? I want to play some on linux
[02:11] <OerHeks> playonlinux, steam or valve
[02:12] <pizzaiolo> also minecraft
[02:14] <tonyt> #gamingonlinux is another channel
[02:14] <electric-cow> oh , I mean, those multiplayers games, it would be nice to find some help or someone who guide me through the installation process and play together
[02:15] <tonyt> they have a website to go with the channel too
[02:15] <electric-cow> Aha, will try  . ty ! )
[02:15] <tonyt> :)
[02:46] <Manouchehri> Where can I see the current /proc/config for a release Ubuntu kernel?
[02:55] <tomreyn> Manouchehri: what's a /proc/config ?
[02:55] <Manouchehri> tomreyn: kernel config
[02:56] <tomreyn> on ubuntu you'll have /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> Manouchehri: and what are you trying to do exactly?
[02:57] <Manouchehri> tomreyn: ahhh thank you!
[02:57] <Manouchehri> lotuspsychje: check that CONFIG_F2FS_FS_ENCRYPTION=y was indeed enabled :D
[03:22] <kyle__> Is there a standard set of flags or env variables you can set for figuring out issues with a unity game?
[03:22] <kyle__> Like --debug
[03:24] <pragmaticenigma> kyle__, That sounds like a question that would be better answered by the developer of the program/game ... since they would have to be the once to implement it
[03:31] <kyle__> Possibly.  But you know, many gui toolkits come with standard options.  Like all X programs respect some basic environmental variables, all gnome programs respect some same basic flags, etc.
[03:40] <SirScott> w/19.10 server & netplan, i'm having an issue configuring a second network interface to have a static ip *without* having a cable connected.  Basically, this:  https://askubuntu.com/q/1046420
[03:41] <SirScott> now according to the answer, that should have been resolved a while ago, but it doesn't seem to be the case.
[03:41] <SirScott> anyone have a trick to set a static IP w/netplan without requiring a carier to be present?
[03:48] <Nyle> 19.10 is not an LTS?
[03:48] <tomreyn> !lts
[03:49] <tomreyn> so, no, 19.10 is not LTS.
[03:49] <Nyle> There you go.
[03:50] <Nyle> When is next lts?
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> !fossa
[03:51] <Nyle> That doesn't mean anything to me.
[03:52] <Nyle> But few more months.
[03:52] <Nyle> Time is illusion. Ubuntu time, doubly so.
[03:54] <Nyle> Can you upgrade from one LTS to another? Has anyone tried that? Does that make things too different and break?
[03:55] <tomreyn> !upgrade
[03:55] <Nyle> there we go
[03:55] <Elagost> Nyle, sometimes things break if you've made some super custom modifications.
[03:55] <tomreyn> or just have third party software installed
[03:56] <Elagost> I recently upgraded a couple machines from 14.04 to 16.04 then to 18.04 and it was smooth sailing.
[03:56] <Nyle> I did not use a config manager like ansible or puppet
[03:56] <Nyle> so when I upgrade to next lts on my server, I wonder if I will have to reinstall
[03:56] <Nyle> Elagost: that sounds promising
[03:56] <Elagost> Generally, with server installs, if you just install stuff from the package manager and make sure to really pay attention to the questions asked during upgrade, you're fine.
[03:57] <Elagost> Like with some versions of software, config file formats change. Or it has new default settings. You may wish to merge them or inspect the differences.
[03:57] <Nyle> I had to reinstall from 16- 18
[03:58] <Nyle> I would like to avoid that again. It's hassle. I don't have anything custom, just packages from ubuntu, and mariadb latest from their repository
[03:58] <Nyle> and php 7.4 ondrej guy's repository
[03:58] <tomreyn> there can be other reasons why you'd want to doa fresh installation, though. such as switching to gpt, to uefi booting, to benefit from newer file systems or other block device layers
[03:59] <Elagost> yeah ZFS being an option now is exciting!
[03:59] <Nyle> It is a vps ony
[03:59] <Nyle> only*
[03:59] <Abhijit> Hi. what is the purpose of /root/.cache? whits taking 15GB?
[04:00] <Abhijit> why it is *
[04:01] <tomreyn> Abhijit: it's not normally that large, it's a disk cache for the root user.
[04:01] <Abhijit> is it safe to delete this folder?
[04:01] <Elagost> Nyle, you should be fine. Make sure the other repos you use have the 'focal' branch before upgrading though. Usually unofficial repos get disabled on upgrades.
[04:02] <Elagost> and doing a release upgrade is just 'do-release-upgrade'. You ever done one before?
[04:03] <Nyle> I have not
[04:03] <tomreyn> Abhijit: i'd say so, yes. it's just cache. there could be software which would fail if a cached file it created is suddenly missing, but this shouldn't be so, i'd say.
[04:04] <Nyle> I come from debian, so I know how to do thigns like apt-get dist-upgrade etc. after updating the apt sources
[04:04] <Nyle> ready made scripts sounds useful
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> keep it ontopic nyle
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu support questions here
[04:07] <Abhijit> tomreyn, ok
[04:07] <tomreyn> Abhijit: in your situation i'd primarily want to understand what's allocated 15 GB there
[04:08] <Abhijit> its a very long random name of a file.
[04:08] <Abhijit> just one file.
[04:09] <slyrobot> I am trying to install Ubuntu but I get an error noveau freezed at FFFFFFFFF
[04:09] <pragmaticenigma> kyle__, There is no standard when it comes to debugging. And the best people to get into contact with are those that created said toolkit. So if you're wondering if Unity has some sort of debugging ability, I would be seeking out a Unity forum/community to ask for help
[04:09] <tomreyn> Abhijit: directly in /root/.cache/ ? or in a subdirectory?
[04:10] <tomreyn> slyrobot: which ubuntu version are you trying to install there? can you show a screen shot (maybe an old fashioned one, taken with a smartphone, shared via imgur.com)?
[04:10] <slyrobot> Sure.
[04:11] <slyrobot> Ubuntu 18.04 and 19.04
[04:11] <tomreyn> 18.04.0 then? or .1, .2, .3?
[04:11] <tomreyn> i wouldn't recommend 19.04 nowadays, it's almost end of life
[04:12] <Abhijit> tomreyn, inside /root/.cache/
[04:12] <slyrobot> My apologies. 18.04.3 and 19.04
[04:13] <tomreyn> ok, take a screenshot then, if you can. and maybe tell us about the hardware you have there, too.
[04:18] <slyrobot> tomreyn:  i5 6300HQ, Nvidia GTX 960M. https://imgur.com/gallery/YgBaLTi
[04:20] <Abhijit> tomreyn, deleted and rebooted. no issues so far!
[04:20] <tomreyn> slyrobot: do you have a "failsafe graphics" option on the boot screen?
[04:21] <slyrobot> nomodeset ?
[04:21] <tomreyn> slyrobot: yes, this could help
[04:21] <tomreyn> Abhijit: nice.
[04:22] <slyrobot> I have a multiboot USB which doesn't give me the GRUB screen to add nomodeset. Anyother work around ?
[04:22] <tomreyn> slyrobot: which boot loader is it using then?
[04:23] <slyrobot> It is using GRUB. But when I select the option of kubuntu it doesn't show me options for Kubuntu. Wait lemme show you. Please wait.
[04:24] <tomreyn> you'd press "e" while kubuntu is highlighted
[04:30] <slyrobot> https://imgur.com/gallery/m4WRXM6 I have tried to explain hopefully I have explained it good.
[04:35] <slyrobot> tomreyn ?
[04:36] <tomreyn> slyrobot: i see the problem. you'd need to edit this grub.cfg before booting off the usb
[04:37] <slyrobot> tomreyn ok. What would I have to add ?
[04:37] <tomreyn> "nomodeset" right before the three dashes on the line starting with "linux"
[04:39] <tomreyn> i can't guarantee this will work, though, since you're basically not booting a standard ubuntu installer here.
[04:41] <slyrobot> tomreyn I am sorry I don't follow.
[04:42] <wedr> Super duper apologies, as I'm trying to fix my Ubuntu 16.04 Unity not displaying launcher and stuffs thanks to Compiz bug
[04:43] <slyrobot> tomreyn https://pastebin.com/Jp0zvY79 this is my grub.cfg for Kubuntu.
[04:43] <tomreyn> slyrobot: i'm saying grub and the grub menu are part of the ubuntu iso, which you'd normally write on a usb attached storage or cd-/dvd-rom/rw and boot off it. it would then show a different grub menu with different options, which we can support here. what you have there is different.
[04:44] <slyrobot> tomreyn: No I understand that. I am not sure about where you wanted me to place nomodeset.
[04:44] <tomreyn> slyrobot: so if you'll add "nomodeset" to the end of the "linux" line there it *may* work, but it's not a standard ubuntu installer.
[04:45] <tomreyn> there's just one line which starts with the word "linux", right? there are no three dashes on your configuration indeed. so just place "nomodeset" to the end of this "linux" line.
[04:45] <slyrobot> line 36 ?
[04:45] <tomreyn> right
[04:46] <slyrobot> Thank you.
[04:46] <SE7EN`> nomodeset has saved my life in a few situations.
[04:47] <slyrobot> Just curious anyway you see I can make the config call for Ubuntu installer ? I am asking because in Debian the grub menu does appear. I you want I can share that config as well.
[04:47] <slyrobot> *If you
[04:49] <tomreyn> no idea, slyrobot
[04:50] <slyrobot> tomreyn thank you for your help.
[04:51] <tomreyn> slyrobot: actually if you edit line 9 to say "set timeout=3" you'd be able to edit it, i guess.
[04:51] <tomreyn> alternatively edit line 10 to not have the timeout but have the menu always show
[04:52] <tomreyn> and you'Re welcome
[04:52] <slyrobot> tomreyn Thank wil try. That line 36 trick didn't work.
[04:52] <tomreyn> i suggest you create a standard ubuntu installer then
[04:52] <tomreyn> or kubuntu for this matter
[04:52] <slyrobot> tomreyn Looks like thats what I ultimately will have to do.
[04:54] <slyrobot> tomreyn  TIMEOUT_STYLE=show ?
[04:56] <tomreyn> slyrobot: this is from ubuntu's manual on grub - it *may* also apply to other grub distributions such as the one you're using: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bMJKRW9VGF/
[04:57] <tomreyn> but indeed i don't want to spend more time on your custom installer.
[04:58] <slyrobot> tomreyn thank you. I won't take anymore of your time.
[04:58] <tomreyn> oh i'm happy to support ubuntu
[04:58] <slyrobot> I am sure you are.
[04:59] <tomreyn> so if oyu have any question son how to install ubuntu or other installation issues with the standard ubuntu installer, feel free to ask. :)
[05:00] <slyrobot> Ok.
[05:27] <meonkeys> would someone mind reviewing https://askubuntu.com/a/1197611 and upvoting it if it is correct? I think the other answer is very much incorrect (even though it has a fancy screenshot)
[05:28] <meonkeys> I'd maybe go so far to say hiding that "managed" message is dangerous. Malware might install policies you don't want, for example. Or your employer might do something to your browser you weren't expecting.
[05:29] <meonkeys> oh and if someone else has a better answer I will for sure upvote and accept it
[05:39] <guiverc> meonkeys, fyi: I had a look, but I don't know enough/anything about it sorry  (my chromium is unmanaged so I can't test it)
[05:39]  * guiverc apologizes to room, I thought this was -discuss; Sorry
[06:36] <martiansoul> I am trying to write a command `scp myname@20.0.181.23:/usr/bin/df .` - it is showing an error that `20.0.181.23` refused to connect
[06:37] <martiansoul> it is showing `ssh: connect to host 20.0.181.63 port 22: Connection refused` to be precise.
[06:39] <tomreyn> martiansoul: so you're unable to connect to this ip address at this port.
[06:39] <tomreyn> is this unexpected?
[06:40] <martiansoul> yes. because i can ssh there.
[06:40] <martiansoul> tomreyn, i can ssh there using my credentials.
[06:40] <tomreyn> martiansoul: note how your error message had a different ip address than the command you showed initially
[06:41] <martiansoul> oh. that's my bad - i must have mistyped it. it's showing the same address as that in my command.
[06:41] <martiansoul> just rechecked it.
[06:42] <mouses> martiansoul: you using a cert based login?  If so, you'll need to feed scp the cert
[06:43] <martiansoul> i have an opvn access to the remote server. after that i use ssh.
[06:43] <mouses> ahhhhh probably a better question for #openvpn
[06:43] <mouses> likely a routing issue
[06:44] <tomreyn> martiansoul: in case the issue persists: when you are connected to the remote server by ssh, run:   echo $SSH_CONNECTION
[06:44] <tomreyn> this will show where you're connecting from and to
[06:44] <tomreyn> from the remote servers' perspective
[06:46] <martiansoul> it's showing `20.0.0.50 58122 20.0.181.23 10122`
[06:47] <tomreyn> so you actually need to connect to port 10122 on 20.0.181.23
[06:47] <tomreyn> not the standard port 22
[06:47] <martiansoul> how do i specify that in my command?
[06:48] <tomreyn> scp -o 'Port 22' myname@20.0.181.23:/usr/bin/df .
[06:48] <tomreyn> or just
[06:48] <tomreyn> scp -P 10122 myname@20.0.181.23:/usr/bin/df .
[06:48] <martiansoul> tomreyn done. thanks
[06:49] <tomreyn> the first one was wrong also, should have said 'Port 10122'
[07:11] <martiansoul> tomreyn, i got disconnected, but it's still showing `/etc/profile.d/lang.sh: line 19: warning: setlocale: LC_CTYPE: cannot change locale (UTF-8): No such file or directoryscp: heapdump-1577138916010.hprof: Permission denied`
[08:17] <szymon_g> hi
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> welcome szymon_g
[08:17] <szymon_g> is it me or does the super key + arrow up does not make a windows full screen? it used to, didn't it?
[08:18] <Telerophon> It's still doing that for me in Gnome 3
[08:18] <szymon_g> arrow + right or left moves the window, but up or down doesn't seem to have an effect
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> same here on gnome, works
[08:18] <szymon_g> :S
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> wich ubuntu version are you on szymon_g ?
[08:18] <szymon_g> i've installed unity as well, but i dont' see how it could have changed it
[08:19] <szymon_g> lotuspsychje, 19.04
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> szymon_g: with gnome? or another flavour?
[08:19] <Telerophon> Are you using the unity desktop or gnome right now?
[08:19] <szymon_g> installed today, nothing changed apart from icon theme + unity (for the old days sake)
[08:19] <szymon_g> aye, gnome
[08:19] <szymon_g> gnome right now
[08:19] <szymon_g> logged in through the lightdm but i don't see how would that change anything tbh
[08:20] <szymon_g> nothing has been changed in gnome keyboard and mouse options
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> szymon_g: unity & gnome might have different hotkeys
[08:21] <Telerophon> I am looking to see if there's anything for you in Tweaks > Keyboard & Mouse
[08:21] <szymon_g> aye, perhaps. but i'm on gnome now. it should work (and it works as long as it's right or left key)
[08:22] <Telerophon> I forgot where the config for that is.
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> szymon_g: hotkeys combo's are now shown in systemsettings
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> maybe you changed something?
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> szymon_g: systemsettings/devices/hotkeys
[08:24] <Telerophon> Yeah, the setting is Windows > Maximize Window --- Super+Up
[08:24] <szymon_g> no hotkeys option. just 'keyboard shortcuts'
[08:25] <Telerophon> Settings > Devices > Keyboard
[08:25] <szymon_g> aye, it's here
[08:25] <szymon_g> where is the minimise window? how is it called?
[08:25] <Telerophon> in that list, do you have the Maximize Window shortcut set to Super+Up
[08:26] <szymon_g> i do, now
[08:26] <szymon_g> it was not bind
[08:26] <szymon_g> *set
[08:26] <szymon_g> but I cant see the option for super+ down, to minimize the window
[08:26] <Telerophon> Excellent
[08:26] <Telerophon> Just set it again and see if it works now
[08:27] <szymon_g> it works, thanks.
[08:27] <Telerophon> There isn't really a "Minimize", there's Super+H to Hide and Super+Down to restore a maximized window
[08:29] <szymon_g> i've set it to hide the window. good enough for me :)
[08:29] <szymon_g> thanks, and merry christmas guys (ang gals)!
[08:33] <alazyworkaholic> I need to kill mpd but it keeps restarting with a new PID. I've run sudo systemctl mpd stop and killed the PID to no avail. What to do to kill it for good??
[08:35] <alazyworkaholic> rather, stop mpd
[08:50] <Chaser> does masking the service help ?
[08:55] <Telerophon> alazyworkaholic, have you tried systemctl mpd disable
[09:07] <alazyworkaholic> Didn't work
[09:08] <alazyworkaholic> Even after mpd disable it still respawns with a new PID
[09:10] <Telerophon> That's weird. Sorry I don't have more insights into that.
[09:10] <Telerophon> If you reboot after MPD disable, does it still start?
[09:12] <alazyworkaholic> lsof shows this file keeps being opened by mpd: /2TBhdd/alan/Meta_Music/mpd/sticker.sql    I just want to unmount the drive.
[09:22] <Telerophon> alazyworkaholic, I wish I knew more, but there does appear to be an #mpd channel on this server.
[09:22] <Telerophon> maybe they can give you more specific guidance.
[09:43] <alazyworkaholic> Generically then, is there a way to force-close a file and prevent it from being open again by any process?
[10:17] <makaveli7> what kind of file is that?
[10:18] <EriC^^> alazyworkaholic: kill the process that has it open
[10:19] <EriC^^> and disable mpd temporarily
[10:35] <SE7EN`> alazyworkaholic, yes just use chmod to set permissions as needed.
[10:36] <SE7EN`> after you snuff out the process that was doing the dirty.
[10:50] <irgendwer4711> hi, whats the default way to set some io-schedulers?
[11:26] <imi> hi. I have an usb c to ethernet adapter, plugged into an usbc to usb3 adapter, plugged into an usb3 hub, plugged into my computer :) now into this usb hub there are several other things plugged in (usb 1 HID, and usb 3 as well). however somethimes when I boot up this machine the ethernet port does not work. my solution to this is to unplug and reattach the usbc to usb3 adapter to the hub. is there a software workaround? for instance is
[11:26] <imi> there a "detach and reattach this device" shell command?
[11:28] <irgendwer4711> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/7412/how-to-reconnect-a-logically-disconnected-usb-device
[11:35] <imi> irgendwer4711: thanks, I'll need to try that
[11:36] <irgendwer4711> or this https://marc.info/?l=linux-usb&m=121459435621262&q=p3
[11:36] <ramsub07> Merry Christmas to all. I'm trying to install qt-sdk on my ubuntu 18.04 however it fails. I remember installing the same on 16.04
[11:37] <dionysus69> audio (pulse) detects my usb webcam with mic, says quickcam for notebooks analog mono
[11:37] <dionysus69> but it has no video or audio in any application, how can I troubleshoot this?
[11:39] <imi> irgendwer4711: ok thank you :)
[11:44] <Apachez> T minus 2h15min and counting...
[12:09] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Merry Christmas to those who celebrate it
[12:33] <goalist> hi
[12:33] <goalist> font on terminal weechat too small how to increase it
[12:33] <goalist> I am inside tmux as well
[12:46] <irgendwer4711> hi, whats the default way to set some io-schedulers?
[12:50] <sixwheeledbeast> I imagine CFQ is fine for most applications.
[12:52] <irgendwer4711> and this is not set
[12:53] <akik> irgendwer4711: i set it through an udev rule
[12:53] <irgendwer4711> for harddisks?
[12:53] <akik> irgendwer4711: yes and ssds
[12:54] <irgendwer4711> ssd got this new mq scheduler
[12:57] <akik> irgendwer4711: an io scheduler that only works with ssds?
[12:57] <irgendwer4711> yep
[12:58] <akik> what's it called?
[12:58] <irgendwer4711> multiqueue
[12:59] <irgendwer4711> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Reference/IOSchedulers
[12:59] <irgendwer4711> "none" seems to be standard
[13:04] <akik> i don't see it mentioned that mq wouldn't work with hdds
[13:07] <irgendwer4711> its too slow, because none is selected at boot
[13:18] <eamonnmr> Is there a preferred solution for backing up your install? I've got a dual boot set up on this laptop, and I'd like to replace the HDD with as little workflow lossage as possible.
[13:24] <irgendwer4711> clonezilla
[13:31] <sixwheeledbeast> didn't reliase CFQ is depreciated in kernels 5.3=>
[13:34] <cmdaltescape> Is Kubuntu 19.10 totally compatible with Ubuntu 19.10 desktop?
[13:35] <OerHeks> cmdaltescape, what do you mean with compatible?
[13:36] <OerHeks> kde and gnome are different desktops, both can do what you need to do, just different programms
[13:36] <cmdaltescape> OerHeks, but under the hood it's all the same? no?
[13:37] <OerHeks> no, they use the same kerel and tools. the rest is different.
[13:37] <cmdaltescape> OerHeks, why would should I use Kubuntu and not just 1) minimual ubuntu install, 2) manually add KDE to it?
[13:38] <OerHeks> that is a different issue: minimal + kde desktop gives you kubuntu
[13:39] <OerHeks> one can install many desktops with the minimal iso, adding one is no problem, removing one can be interesting
[13:42] <sixwheeledbeast> I suppose you would pick a flavour if you know you only want that DE
[13:54] <pikapika> If I found a bug with a program available in the repos where is the appropriate place to report it: ubuntu's bug db or that projects website?
[13:55] <OerHeks> depends what repo, pikapika
[13:56] <pikapika> Let me check
[13:58] <pikapika> OerHeks, bionic universe
[13:58] <OerHeks> yes, ubuntu-bug would be the right place
[13:58] <OerHeks> !bug
[13:58] <pikapika> Ok. Thanks!
[13:59] <OerHeks> more info about repos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[14:05] <TheM4rco> Hello, I have a security problem, I got root access to my ISP FTTH router, and I saw that there are 6 Ip addresses that have rights to my router right? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VGx2yWMTGj/
[14:26] <irgendwer4711> TheM4rco: no
[14:59] <ramsub07> Hi, how do i find the build directory of VTK?
[15:22] <shibboleth> bionic apt repo appears broken
[15:22] <shibboleth> libpulse-dev : Depends: libpulse0 (= 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.4) but 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.5 is to be installed
[15:25] <shibboleth> anyone feel like doing an "apt-get upgrade" , "apt-get install libpulse-dev" to confirm?
[15:26] <shibboleth> nothing bad will happen
[15:27] <OerHeks> did you properly run apt update first? seems like old lists.
[15:27] <OerHeks> or the mirror was in sync
[15:29] <shibboleth> tried several
[15:29] <shibboleth> mind doing "apt-cache show libpulse0"?
[15:30] <shibboleth> ...ubuntu7.4 or-7.5?
[15:31] <OerHeks> 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.5
[15:31] <shibboleth> mind doing "apt-cache show libpulse-dev"?
[15:31] <shibboleth> depends on 7.4 or 7.5?
[15:32] <OerHeks> that -dev is 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.4 ..
[15:32] <OerHeks> Depends: libpulse0 (= 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.4), libpulse-mainloop-glib0 (= 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.4), libglib2.0-dev
[15:32] <shibboleth> yeah, so your cache/mirror is also broken
[15:34] <ioria> shibboleth, you can try with the proposed veriosn : 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.5 ; you might need to enable the -proposed repo
[15:34] <ioria> *version
[15:34] <OerHeks> indeed in proposed https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/amd64/libpulse-dev/1:11.1-1ubuntu7.5
[15:35] <shibboleth> yeah, or someone who knows someone with some clout might wanna prick their shoulder
[15:35] <OerHeks> hmm .. deleted .. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/amd64/libpulse-dev
[15:36] <ioria> shibboleth, confirm the -proposed will install correctly
[15:37] <shibboleth> i don't have rights to edit sources.list on this dev-server
[15:37] <shibboleth>  rights/privs
[15:37] <ioria> shibboleth, downlaod the deb
[15:38] <shibboleth> working remotely, metered
[15:38] <shibboleth> xmas
[15:46] <shibboleth> OerHeks, yeah, not like that package might come in handy :)
[15:47] <hggdh> OerHeks: what is the "undelete" program we were discussing a few weeks ago? Do you remember?
[15:49] <SimonNL> recover app ?    maybe photorec
[15:49] <hggdh> thanks, let me check
[15:49] <SimonNL> forgot how it's named in ubuntu repo
[15:50] <SimonNL> testdisk I think hggdh
[15:51] <shibboleth> ddrescue?
[15:52] <shibboleth> there are utilities that'll find deleted files in ext4, btrfs
[15:57] <OerHeks> ext3undelete ??
[15:57] <OerHeks> !info ext3undelete
[15:58] <OerHeks> !info extundelete
[15:58] <OerHeks> extundelete /dev/sda4 --restore-all
[17:05] <P0w3Rl1ft3r> join #pfsense
[17:20] <ramsub07> Hello, I'd like to install this package : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgphoto2/2.5.16-2 . is it possible to install with aptitude?
[17:25] <ioria> !info libgphoto2-6 bionic | ramsub07
[17:33] <OerHeks> on bionic, yes, install aptitude first
[17:33] <ramsub07>  thanks!!
[17:36] <jeremy31> ramsub07: Did you get the problem fixed from a week ago?
[19:59] <Hay207> Hi guys, I have lubuntu, after trying suspend, laptop won't boot ever
[20:00] <tomreyn> hello Hay207. which ubuntu version is it, and are you saying you cannot reboot at all now, or just that it doesn't resume?
[20:01] <Hay207> 19.10 , can't boot at all
[20:02] <rzul1> join #freenode
[20:04] <tomreyn> Hay207: whats your computer?
[20:04] <Hay207> Hp pavilion DV 5
[20:04] <Hay207> With Nvidia card
[20:05] <tomreyn> Hay207: hold the power button for 15 seconds
[20:06] <Hay207> Then
[20:07] <Hay207> 5 seconds forces shutdown
[20:07] <tomreyn> Hay207: its already off though, right?
[20:07] <Hay207> Yes
[20:08] <tomreyn> a 10 second press while its off may help it switch on. if that's not enough, try 1.5 minutes, this may clear nvram
[20:08] <tomreyn> i'll look up the manual in the meantime.
[20:08] <Hay207> We'll just worked
[20:08] <tomreyn> how do you mean?
[20:08] <Hay207> Well just worked
[20:08] <tomreyn> so the system is now booting?
[20:08] <Hay207> Yes
[20:08] <Hay207> :)
[20:09] <tomreyn> ok, look for a bios update next.
[20:09] <Hay207> Searched forums, could not find an answer
[20:09] <Hay207> Thanks
[20:09] <tomreyn> "Hp pavilion DV 5" is just a series, not a precise model, but running   journalctl -b | grep 'DMI:'  will tell
[20:10] <Hay207> 1116 em
[20:11] <tomreyn> hmm, can't find HP Pavilion DV5-1116em
[20:13] <tomreyn> it does exist though
[20:13] <Hay207> Model written below covering
[20:13] <tomreyn> i.e. not a typo
[20:14] <Hay207> So in all laptops a 10 seconds clears vram?
[20:14] <tomreyn> no, but some
[20:15] <OerHeks> https://am4computers.com/main/viewProductDetails.php?id=2602
[20:16] <Hay207> Ok bye, thanks again
[20:16] <tomreyn> thanks. there is DV5-1000 seriesn and DV5-1200 series
[20:16] <tomreyn> you should still look for a bios upgrade, i guess
[20:17] <OerHeks> Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T5800, no extra gpu
[20:18] <marcoagpinto> more recent than my T4200 or so :)
[20:18] <OerHeks> Intel 4 Series Express Chipset Family Graphics
[20:18] <marcoagpinto> Pentium Dual-Core T4300 2.10 GHz
[20:19] <marcoagpinto> ahhh.. it is 4300
[20:19] <OerHeks> not sure why that would crash, hold shift @ boot to enter grub menu
[20:19] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:21] <tomreyn> they're gone
[20:31] <Raoul_> Hi guys, anyone able to help me identify some audio issues? I'm a massive linux noob so not really sure what to do. I'm using Ubuntu 18.04 and following a reboot last night all of my sound cards have disappeared meaning I no longer have any audio. aplay -l shows "no soundcards found"
[20:34] <compdoc> Raoul_, is it possible it was disabled in the bios?
[20:36] <Raoul_> compdoc, i booted onto another partition which also has ubuntu insatlled and it works fine in there
[20:39] <jerichowasahoax> I'm trying to use udev rules to allow users in the "input" group to write to files in /sys belonging to my DualShock 4, but they don't do anything. What's wrong with them? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pnVh2qKDxV/
[20:40] <jerichowasahoax> I ran `sudo udevadm control --reload-rules && sudo udevadm trigger` after editing them, and also disconnected and reconnected the controller, so I know udev is aware of the rules, at least
[20:50] <DrManhattan> Good afternoon - I am using ubuntu server and when I migrated the install to another host, I appear to have lost use of my rtl8111/8168 NIC
[20:50] <DrManhattan> I have followed online guides, even tried installing the proprietary driver, but networking doesn't seem to start, ever
[20:51] <DrManhattan> there doesn't appear to be ifup/down anymore and I find myself at a loss
[20:52] <OerHeks> !info r8168-dkms
[20:52] <OerHeks> that dkms should fix that prop driver
[20:53] <OerHeks> sudo apt add-repository universe && sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[20:54] <OerHeks> maybe a reboot is needed, then install the DKM
[20:54] <OerHeks> oh wait, no networking at all?
[20:56] <DrManhattan> there is no networking at all
[20:56] <DrManhattan> it has simply disappeared.
[20:57] <DrManhattan> the live USB works fine.
[20:57] <DrManhattan> I am at my wits end really. I don't know what is causing the issue or how to resolve it.
[20:57] <DrManhattan> module is loaded, lights are up on the device, but I don't have the ability to bring networking up
[20:58] <DrManhattan> there's not even an ifup or ifdown anymore
[20:58] <DrManhattan> doesn't seem to be any options to bring networking as a service up or down at all
[21:05] <tomreyn> DrManhattan: ip link set XXX up
[21:05] <tomreyn> XXX being the NIC device name
[21:06] <DrManhattan> thx
[21:07] <tomreyn> DrManhattan: you're saying you "migrated the install to another host". how did you do the migration? how did oyu instll on the new host, and is this ubuntu running on bare metal, and was it previously?
[21:07] <tomreyn> and if bare metal, do those systems have the same or different specs?
[21:07] <DrManhattan> bare metal, swapped the drive over, intel to intel, same chipset
[21:07] <tomreyn> and same NICs?
[21:08] <DrManhattan> let me check, I think so
[21:08] <tomreyn> lspci -knn | grep -EA3 '(Network|Ethernet) controller' | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:09] <DrManhattan> UGH, no, looks different
[21:09] <DrManhattan> broadcom vs rtl8111E
[21:09] <DrManhattan> probably have to back off the use of HWE kernel
[21:10] <tomreyn> so it was some broadcom, and is now one or more of rtl8111E?
[21:11] <tomreyn> i guess r8168-dkms should work with hwe
[21:11] <OerHeks>  r8168 is the Linux device driver released for RTL8111E, and more
[21:12] <DrManhattan> sigh, how do I find what the link was named to? enp0s1 isn't working, that's what it was before
[21:13] <tomreyn> journalctl -b | grep 'renamed from'
[21:13] <tomreyn> or just "ip link"
[21:15] <tomreyn> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[21:15] <tomreyn> "What precisely has changed in v197?" discusses the naming scheme
[21:15] <DrManhattan> ok its up
[21:15] <DrManhattan> thank you
[21:15] <DrManhattan> how do I perpetuate these changed
[21:15] <DrManhattan> changes
[21:16] <DrManhattan> make sure that the link is up when it reboots?
[21:16] <tomreyn> which framework is the system using for network management?
[21:16] <DrManhattan> I'm on 18.04, not sure
[21:16] <DrManhattan> these things tend to change with every release
[21:16] <tomreyn> new 18.04 server installations would use systemd-networkd
[21:16] <tomreyn> + netplan
[21:17] <tomreyn> !netplan
[21:17] <OerHeks> ip link would tell what the device names are, old and new
[21:18] <OerHeks> and sudo ip link delete <name> would remove it ; then  ip link set XXX up  to setup your current one
[21:18] <DrManhattan> OerHeks: how do I perpetuate those changes
[21:20] <tomreyn> https://netplan.io/examples#configuration
[21:20] <tomreyn> i.e. start by editing /etc/netplan/config.yaml
[21:21] <DrManhattan> 01-netcfg.yaml
[21:22] <DrManhattan> ugh - how do I restart the networking service to change this
[21:22] <DrManhattan> I miss the good ole sudo service networking days
[21:22] <tomreyn> sudo netplan apply
[21:23] <tomreyn> you'll need to get yourself familiarized with netplan.
[21:24] <tomreyn> that or systemd-networkd, or network-manager
[21:24] <DrManhattan> sure, then when 20.04 comes out, everything will be completely different, and I'll have to learn something new all over again
[21:25] <tomreyn> i dont thnk so. but i hear you.
[21:32] <DrManhattan> that did it guys, thank you very much for your self, tomreyn and OerHeks
[21:32] <DrManhattan> for your helpo
[21:40] <tomreyn> :) you'Re welcome, DrManhattan
[21:41] <DrManhattan> I've been using linux since the turn of the century - redhat 7.2 - the open one :)
[21:41] <DrManhattan> I was getting ready to use that box as a toilet
[21:42] <OerHeks> have fun!
[21:53] <Aavar> How can I list where grub is installed on my system?
[21:57] <Chunkyz> Aavar: lsblk will show where /boot is
[21:57] <cluelessperson> Does anyone know how to delete caribou, the on screen keyboard, out completely?
[21:57] <cluelessperson> Now it's stuck on the screen, and won't go away
[21:58] <OerHeks> there is a blocker https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1326/block-caribou/
[21:59] <Aavar> Chunkyz: that will not work on older systems, right?
[22:00] <Chunkyz> Will work on any Linux distribution
[22:00] <jhutchins> Is there a link to the upgrade process?  I have a system that may be several versions old.
[22:01] <Chunkyz> Fresh install jhutchins
[22:01] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[22:01] <Chunkyz> Upgrades can cause problems
[22:01] <OerHeks> but a fresh one is a good suggestion
[22:02] <cluelessperson> OerHeks, I have the blocker installed.
[22:02] <cluelessperson> jhutchins, I highly suggest you just freshly install.
[22:02] <cluelessperson> jhutchins, Linux can usually upgrade fairly seamlessly, but if you have many services you rely on, it's important you have well maintained backups and the ability to reinstall
[22:03] <OerHeks> first prepare a fresj 18.04 usb
[22:03] <OerHeks> or go wild, gnome on 19.10 is awesome
[22:03] <cluelessperson> OerHeks, I don't know if it's gnome's fault, but i've had many issues on 19.10
[22:04]  * Chunkyz only uses LTS
[22:04] <cluelessperson> Chunkyz, I'm considering reinstalling to LTS
[22:05] <Chunkyz> Do it
[22:05] <OerHeks> oke, if your ubuntu is really out of date, the latest intel migitations may ruin your experience
[22:06] <cluelessperson> OerHeks, how does that work anyway?
[22:06] <cluelessperson> I bet this onscreen keyboard would go away if I restart, but I shouldn't have to
[22:08] <cluelessperson> bbs
[22:12] <jhutchins> cluelessperson: Just a low-end general purpose desktop.
[22:13] <jhutchins> ubottu: upgrade
[22:13] <jhutchins> Shutting down for floppy cable installation.
[22:14] <OerHeks> Santa, save him
[22:15] <Osmodivs> Hello. I have Ubuntu 18.04.3, I want to add myself to various groups, instead of typing in the terminal I am going to edit /etc/group. Is this the right file to edit?
[22:17] <OerHeks> i would not do that, just run:  usermod -a -G group1,group2,group3 username
[22:17] <OerHeks> then logout/login
[22:18] <Phruis> does ubuntu have webkit2gtk?
[22:19] <OerHeks> !find webkit2gtk
[22:22] <Phruis> OerHeks, guess so
[22:22] <Phruis> thanks
[22:37] <Osmodivs>  OerHeks, I'll follow your advice, but just for curiosity, why should I not edit the /etc/group file?
[22:54] <ryuo> Osmodivs: that's not a file you should edit by hand.
[23:03] <Osmodivs> ryuo: Why  not?
[23:04] <akemhp> Hey, if i access/mount an SMB drive with Nautilus or Nemo it works fine, but anyone knows where it is located to list it using the terminal?
[23:04] <ryuo> Osmodivs: because it's primarily editted programatically. if you try to edit it by hand, you may leave it in an unreadable state.
[23:05] <Osmodivs> ryuo: I was just reading some posts on forums and someone said he was doing it for years and no bad things happened
[23:05] <ryuo> Osmodivs: i've used Linux for years, but the user and group database files are something I never edit by hand. use the proper tools instead.
[23:06] <Osmodivs> And, since I can't add myself to groups:  usermod: group '' does not exist
[23:06] <ryuo> what are you trying to do?
[23:06] <Osmodivs> I was just editing the file, actually, I just saved the file...
[23:07] <Osmodivs> ryuo: I'm trying to be in all groups to have access to all features in case I need them
[23:07] <ryuo> ._.
[23:07] <ryuo> You might as well do everything as root if you're going to do that.
[23:08] <ryuo> But that's not recommended either.
[23:09] <ryuo> $root
[23:09] <ryuo> ubottu: root
[23:09] <ryuo> Oh.
[23:10] <Osmodivs> ryuo: anyway...
[23:10] <Osmodivs> I'll reboot and see what happens
[23:10] <akemhp> Nm, i found /run/user/<uid>/gvfs.
[23:18] <Osmodivs> Well, nothing went wrong, editing /etc/groups file was accepted by my system: $ groups
[23:18] <Osmodivs> administrador root daemon bin sys adm tty disk lp mail news uucp man proxy kmem dialout fax voice cdrom floppy tape sudo audio dip www-data backup operator list irc src gnats shadow utmp video sasl plugdev staff games users systemd-journal systemd-network systemd-resolve input crontab syslog messagebus netdev mlocate ssl-cert uuidd avahi-autoipd bluetooth rtkit ssh lpadmin whoopsie scanner saned pulse pulse-access avahi colord geoc
[23:18] <Osmodivs> vnstat nogroup
[23:18] <Osmodivs> Any group I'm missing here?
[23:18] <Osmodivs> :D
[23:19] <Chunkyz> Wow
[23:19] <ryuo> "Don't try this at home kids."
[23:20] <Osmodivs> That's the fun part about Linux
[23:34] <shibboleth> season greetings
[23:35] <shibboleth> any word re broken apt repos?
[23:44] <Bashing-om> shibboleth: What do you see that might be broke about the repo ?
 mind doing "apt-cache show libpulse-dev"?
 depends on 7.4 or 7.5?
 that -dev is 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.4 ..
 Depends: libpulse0 (= 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.4), libpulse-mainloop-glib0 (= 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.4), libglib2.0-dev
 yeah, so your cache/mirror is also broken