[07:06] <qih> Using Lubuntu Latest on AMD64, I am unable to allow the transfer of Data via USB from my Samsung J2 Mobile to this Lubuntu machine, using MTP or JMTPFS. Is there a definitive method to do this?
[07:09] <diogenes_> qih, on connecting the phone to pc, it should ask you if you want to allow data transfer on your phone.
[07:09] <qih> Yes, and I say 'yes'
[07:10] <diogenes_> and are you able to browse the files in the file manager?
[07:11] <qih> No, I get a 'file manager' UI box, select OK, then PCMan loads, into mtp://SAMSUNG_SAMSUNG_Android_9c45f092/ ... but it just then hangs.
[07:12] <tomreyn> maybe enable developer mode on the phone, it may provide better feedback
[07:12] <tomreyn> if you can't work out those 'high level' protocols, there's also adb.
[07:13] <diogenes_> qih, maybe try a different file manager.
[07:13] <qih> I am not sure if I can access 'Developer' mode on the J2, looking ...
[07:13] <qih> diogenes_, OK will do ...
[07:14] <tomreyn> and / or try from a CLI using gio, starting with    gio mount --list
[07:16] <qih> tomreyn, Volume(0): SAMSUNG Android
[07:16] <qih>   Type: GProxyVolume (GProxyVolumeMonitorMTP)
[07:16] <qih>   Mount(0): SAMSUNG Android -> mtp://SAMSUNG_SAMSUNG_Android_9c45f092/
[07:16] <qih>     Type: GProxyShadowMount (GProxyVolumeMonitorMTP)
[07:16] <qih> Mount(1): mtp -> mtp://SAMSUNG_SAMSUNG_Android_9c45f092/
[07:16] <qih>   Type: GDaemonMount
[07:19] <qih> Drone 'quieted' me, mea culpa
[07:19] <qih> tomreyn, Ran that cmd => https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2FjDYrc754/
[07:20] <tomreyn> yes, looks like you ran it
[07:22] <qih> I seem to have the device mounted but the file manager/system still cannot access the device
[07:23] <tomreyn> i already told you all i know about this, i'm afraid, can't guide you through debugging this.
[07:24] <qih> OK no worries, googling/testing
[07:24] <tomreyn> but you could read up on those commands, and teach yourself how to test whether you can access the data from the CLI where you can get proper error messages.
[07:24] <tomreyn> and once you have error messages, you can run web searches on those and then maybe find a solution.
[07:25] <qih> I know that connecting Android > Ubuntu sometimes is squirrely, this is just daft.
[07:25] <qih> tomreyn, Will do.
[07:26] <tomreyn> good luck
[07:26] <qih> ta
[12:19] <rozelli> hai gais thanks so much for such a wonderful operating system
[12:20] <rozelli> My family has been using lubuntu for years, the kids also
[17:06] <Serj> Hello, i have couple of questions related to the Lubuntu 64bit.
[17:06] <Serj> is anyone available?
[17:09] <Serj> Alright, i was just wondering, my RAM is 4gb (3.88 usable), Intel CPU 1037U @ 1.80GHz 1.80 GHz, and 64bit operating system and 64 bit based processor. will this OS work well on my laptop? I don't want any breaking that happened with my computer, it was 32bit and 1gb ram, it was installing fine than in the middle of the installation the screen
[17:09] <Serj> crashed and now it's making 3 beeps when i open it, but i will send that to be fixed, I don't want this to happen with my laptop too.
[17:09] <Serj> I will stay and wait here for couple of minutes, till some people answer.
[17:11] <Serj> hmm, no one.
 Hey!
[17:14] <Serj> finally, someone.
 Yeah lubuntu should be fine on those speca.
 *specs
[17:15] <Serj> but not on my 1gb ram computer
[17:15] <Serj> ?
 Make sure you download latest 19.10 release from lubuntu.me
 @Serj [<Serj> but not on my 1gb ram computer], It should be fine.
[17:15] <Serj> 19.10?
[17:15] <Serj> it actually didnt
[17:16] <Serj> it's in coma
[17:16] <Serj> 3 beeps lel
 @The_LoudSpeaker [It should be fine.], I'd like to have more info about how and what went wrong.
 @Serj [<Serj> 3 beeps lel], Laptop model?
[17:17] <Serj> well, there are 2 things that could cause it: 1. it's not 1gb ram, its 516gb (or with the 500 one), or idk it couldnt handle
 @Serj [<Serj> 19.10?], Lubuntu versions are numbered as yy.mm
[17:17] <Serj> my laptop is toshiba, my computers display screen its written Acer so its acer
 So 19.10 means it was released in October 2019
[17:17] <Serj> ow im downloading 18.04.3 lel
[17:17] <Serj> oops
 @Serj [<Serj> my laptop is toshiba, my computers display screen its written Acer so its …], Specs of the system on which it failed?
[17:18] <Serj> i really dont know, it's 10+ years old my dad bought it
[17:18] <Serj> many years
[17:19] <Serj> did you leave?
 Okay. Lite. Tho it would be good to know the specs and investigate it. Lubuntu should run fine mostly. @guiverc here has tested on systems older than that.
[17:19] <Serj> ill see if there are old papers of the computer
 @Serj [<Serj> ow im downloading 18.04.3 lel], 18.04 has lxde desktop. Lubuntu shifted to lxqt from 18.10. lxde will be out of date soon. Better you download 19.10 now and upgrade to 20.04 when it arrives. It will have 3 years of support.
[17:22] <The_LoudSpeaker> Also, !ask
[17:22] <Serj> okay captain
[17:22] <The_LoudSpeaker> !ask
[17:22] <The_LoudSpeaker> ^^ Serj:
[17:23] <Serj> alrighty, my bad
[17:23] <The_LoudSpeaker> Its okay
[17:24] <Serj> i am so unlucky, if another person tested on older versions than i was very unlucky lol that it failed. i didnt find any papers tho of the computer, does it be written on the back of the display r smthing the spects?
 Is it a pc or a laptop?
[17:25] <Serj> the old one is normal pc, the one with 4gb ram is a laptop (im using rn)
 For the pc, you can open the cpu cover and check the processor, ram, etc.
[17:26] <Serj> ow yeah, im not doing that, forget about it. i did that 5 times to solve the 3 beeps, naaah.
[17:27] <Serj> im scared tho
[17:27] <Serj> i have couple of questions:
 Shoot them. :)
[17:28] <Serj> wt, shift+enter doesnt do... sorry. so, 1. can i play minecraft? 2. can i use steam? 3. can i use discord? 4. can i use exe files?
[17:28] <Serj> normal exe, not files. idk why i said files.
[17:29] <Serj> why is there <The_LoudSpeaker> ? this is so confusing
 1. You can. Google search on how to play minecraft on ubuntu/linux.
 2. You can. You have to enable the i386 architecture. … run `sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386; sudo apt update` … a `sudo apt full-upgrade` probably wouldn't hurt. … Then `sudo apt install steam-installer`
 3. Yes you can. Again, google search.
[17:32] <Serj> wooh, the second one looks confusing
 4. Yes you can. Just do `sudo apt install wine` in last step mentioned on step 2.
[17:33] <Serj> is there like a forum that says the same thing you said? cause you know, if i leave these will go away.
 @Serj [<Serj> wooh, the second one looks confusing], What part is hard? I can explain again.
 @Serj [<Serj> is there like a forum that says the same thing you said? cause you know, …], This chat is logged. You can always search for your nick in the backlog. :)
[17:35] <The_LoudSpeaker> I will send the link to where its log in a min.
[17:35] <Serj> so these are the steps: You can. You have to enable the i386 architecture. … run `sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386; sudo apt update` … a `sudo apt full-upgrade` probably wouldn't hurt. … Then `sudo apt install steam-installer` do `sudo apt install wine` in last step
[17:36] <Serj> i copy pasted so some issues lol
[17:36] <Serj> sorry
[17:36] <The_LoudSpeaker> You see 2 The_LoudSpeaker's coz this chat is bridged to telegram. I was using telegram.
[17:36] <The_LoudSpeaker> Don't copy paste.
[17:37] <Serj> ow
[17:37] <Serj> sorry
[17:37] <The_LoudSpeaker> I will tell what to do:
[17:37] <The_LoudSpeaker> Run this in terminal.
[17:37] <The_LoudSpeaker> sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386; sudo apt update
[17:38] <The_LoudSpeaker> sudo apt full-upgrade
[17:38] <Serj> seperatly?
[17:38] <The_LoudSpeaker> Yup.
[17:38] <Serj> is it the same from above that i sent?
[17:38] <The_LoudSpeaker> Each message I sent is a separate command
[17:38] <The_LoudSpeaker> Yup. Same.
[17:38] <The_LoudSpeaker> sudo apt install steam-installer
[17:39] <The_LoudSpeaker> ^ this is the last command
[17:39] <Serj> so all that was for installing steam?
[17:40] <The_LoudSpeaker> This command will be a bit long and need you to download and wait for a while while it runs. Sometimes you will think it has stopped. But it hasn't mostly. Just search for it in your task manager.
[17:40] <The_LoudSpeaker> Yeah. That's all for steam.
[17:40] <Serj> i just put it in the terminal without installing like the actual steam file?
[17:40] <The_LoudSpeaker> Yeah ra. This command will install all needed files.
[17:40] <Serj> okay, what's next
[17:41] <The_LoudSpeaker> You want to use exe files?
[17:41] <Serj> can I?
[17:41] <The_LoudSpeaker> You can. With some tweaks.
[17:41] <Serj> if it requires additional stuff than no, ill go with the terminal
[17:41] <Serj> WINE?
[17:42] <Serj> to run exe files
[17:42] <The_LoudSpeaker> Fullform is "Wine Is Not an Emulator"
[17:42] <Serj> so, what was the other one for?
[17:42] <Serj> which is longer
[17:42] <The_LoudSpeaker> Yeah once wine is Installed, you can run exe files from terminal using "wine /path/to/file.exe"
[17:43] <Serj> okay, so the second one is for wine
[17:43] <Serj> ?
[17:43] <Serj> which is long
[17:43] <The_LoudSpeaker> What long? For exe files, wine is the only way. It is the tweak that I am talking about.
[17:44] <The_LoudSpeaker> You can install wine from terminal itself.
[17:44] <Serj> okay say that too
[17:44] <Serj> :D
[17:44] <The_LoudSpeaker> Same as for steam. Just put wine in place of steam-installer in the last step.
[17:45] <Serj> do i need wifi for this terminal>
[17:45] <Serj> ?
 You need internet.
[17:46] <Serj> okay, i have 1 more question.
[17:46] <Serj> what are the chances that the installation would fail?
[17:46] <The_LoudSpeaker> Very less.
[17:46] <Serj> what can cause to fail?
[17:47] <The_LoudSpeaker> Maybe wrong iso download. Always check for md5 hash after downloading isos using http(s) links.
[17:47] <The_LoudSpeaker> Or bad installation media.
[17:47] <Serj> md5 hash?
[17:48] <The_LoudSpeaker> Use a decent good usb.
[17:48] <The_LoudSpeaker> !md5
[17:48] <The_LoudSpeaker> https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[17:48] <The_LoudSpeaker> ^ place where this chat is logged.
[17:49] <Serj> ooh, that verifying is long steps
[17:49] <The_LoudSpeaker> It is.
[17:50] <Serj> my usb is 'Verbatim' 8gb storage
[17:50] <The_LoudSpeaker> But is optional. It is recommended but not compulsary.
[17:50] <Serj> but if i downloaded it from the official website, why would it be wrong?
[17:50] <The_LoudSpeaker> Your usb size is more than enough. But I don't know about the company verbatim.
[17:51] <The_LoudSpeaker> Someone might have messed up with your connection. Or your ISP's. Afterall it is the internet. Anything could go wrong. ;)
[17:51] <Serj> well, idk either but it looks like they prorvided digital media solutions to customers for over 40 years.
[17:51] <The_LoudSpeaker> Ah. So it should be fine.
[17:51] <Serj> that's what the website says
[17:53] <Serj> should I do it? now im using Windows 10 cracked
[17:53] <Serj> pirated*
[17:53] <The_LoudSpeaker> Also, verification of md5 is fairly easy on windows also, if you have 7zip Installed. It has verification options in the right click menu itself.
[17:53] <Serj> im lost
[17:54] <Serj> what should i do
[17:55] <The_LoudSpeaker> 1. Download the iso.
[17:55] <The_LoudSpeaker> 2. Download and install 7zio for windows.
[17:55] <The_LoudSpeaker> 3. Just right click on iso and then browse through some options and you will find md5 related option. Select it. It will calculate and display the hash value. Compare it with the one given on our website.
[17:55] <The_LoudSpeaker> * 7zip
[17:55] <Serj> no, like i mean, should i put the Lubuntu on my laptop?
[17:55] <The_LoudSpeaker> You should.
[17:56] <The_LoudSpeaker> If you feel your current operating system is hard and slow on your laptop
[17:56] <Serj> ow, but i dont. btw i wrote the 3 steps down for the verification
[17:57] <Serj> so, linux is for slow computerS?
[17:57] <Serj> so, linux is for slow computers?
[17:57] <The_LoudSpeaker> And you are patient enough to learn a few things while adjusting to linux.
[17:57] <The_LoudSpeaker> Nope. Linux is for better users. :P
[17:57] <Serj> -_-
[17:58] <Serj> can i use microsoft word? i have a dvd that has from 2007 to 2016
[17:58] <The_LoudSpeaker> It has low requirements than windows so it works like a charm on systems with limited resources
[17:58] <The_LoudSpeaker> You can use libreoffice. Free microsoft office alternative.
[17:58] <The_LoudSpeaker> Or you can use word through wine.
[17:59] <Serj> can i run files from dvds and usbs?
[17:59] <The_LoudSpeaker> Or you can use the online version of MS word. It is free.
[17:59] <Serj> but i cant use it from the dvd?
[17:59] <The_LoudSpeaker> You can run files from dvds and usbs
[17:59] <The_LoudSpeaker> *media files.
[17:59] <Serj> i couldnt do that on tiny core lol, when i put it on my old computer
[18:00] <The_LoudSpeaker> You have ms word installation dvd probably. Can't install from that i am afraid.
[18:00] <Serj> :(
[18:00] <The_LoudSpeaker> *ms office
[18:01] <Serj> now what
[18:01] <The_LoudSpeaker> You can use online version. It is office 365. Better than 2016/2007
[18:01] <The_LoudSpeaker> What what?
[18:01] <Serj> i need to wait 2 hours
[18:01] <The_LoudSpeaker> Why? Slow download?
[18:01] <Serj> my wifi is poopipoopoo
[18:01] <Serj> atleast im using eaglenet
[18:01] <Serj> atleast im using eagleget
[18:01] <The_LoudSpeaker> You can use torrent.
[18:02] <Serj> (but thats unsafe)
[18:02] <The_LoudSpeaker> Lol! No. That's a myth.
[18:02] <Serj> 250mb is already downloaded, i wont close it lel
[18:03] <Serj> i dont want to lose my laptop, promise i wont
[18:03] <The_LoudSpeaker> They are unsafe only if you use torrents for pirated stuff like movies and songs. Lubuntu's torrent is 100% safe. I guarantee you.
[18:04] <The_LoudSpeaker> I can't promise that. I don't know your laptop or neither am I doing changes to it.
[18:04] <Serj> ill go with eagleget now
[18:04] <Serj> ow god
[18:05] <The_LoudSpeaker> What's your laptop model again?
[18:05] <Serj> Toshiba
[18:05] <The_LoudSpeaker> If it is something I have tested lubuntu before. I can probably help with any problems you face.
[18:06] <Serj> even with 3 beeps?
[18:06] <The_LoudSpeaker> Exact specs please? There are tons of toshiba laptops.
[18:06] <Serj> i wish i could send pictures
[18:06] <Serj> give me 2min
[18:06] <The_LoudSpeaker> You won't always end up with 3 beeps on every system.
[18:06] <The_LoudSpeaker> You can send pictures if you use telegram
[18:06] <The_LoudSpeaker> Join this chat on telegram. :)
[18:07] <The_LoudSpeaker> Or you can use something like Imgur
[18:07] <The_LoudSpeaker> To upload images and then send its link here.
[18:08] <Serj> i had telegram, i removed it later
[18:08] <Serj> is there like a telegram lite
[18:08] <The_LoudSpeaker> Also, 250mb is a small fraction. Iso is 1.5 gb approx
[18:08] <Serj> 1.6gb
[18:09] <The_LoudSpeaker> You can use telegram on web.
[18:09] <The_LoudSpeaker> Out of curiosity, where are you from?
[18:10] <Serj> why?
[18:10] <The_LoudSpeaker> Curiosity. Thats all.
[18:10] <The_LoudSpeaker> No worries if you don't want to reveal
[18:10] <Serj> im anonymous
[18:10] <The_LoudSpeaker> :)
[18:11] <Serj> kinda
[18:11] <Serj> you should be happy
[18:11] <Serj> im installing telegram for you
[18:13] <Serj> Processor:  CeleronR CPU 1037U @ 1.80GHz  1.80GHz
[18:13] <The_LoudSpeaker> Thanks?
[18:13] <Serj> Installed RAM: 4.00GB (0.27 usable)
[18:14] <The_LoudSpeaker> Your specs look fine. Shouldn't be a problem imo.
[18:14] <Serj> System type: 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
[18:14] <The_LoudSpeaker> Also mr anonymous, i know you are from Asia. ;)
[18:14] <Serj> aaaand telegram is installed
[18:14] <Serj> you hacker
[18:15] <The_LoudSpeaker> I can even tell the city.
[18:15] <The_LoudSpeaker> I didn't want to intrude, you provoked me. :)
[18:16] <The_LoudSpeaker> See you on the other side. (Telegram) link is in channel topic
[18:16] <Serj> okay what's the telegram link
[18:16] <Serj> ow okay
[18:16] <Serj> cya
 I'm here
 Hii
 Hello
 Downloaded iso?
 Still
 Wait, you're The-LoudSpeaker?
 Yup!
 Or you were just reading our chat -_-
 I wasn't
 Ow okay, you are
 I scrolled up and saw
 399mb downloaded
 I can prove it. By telling your city if you want me to. ;)
 We're close
 @SerjSev [399mb downloaded], Still a long way to go. I am going to bed. Do the install. Fairly easy. You can read up our manual while iso downloads. if you need any help, ask here. Someone will help sooner or later.
 Ow ik, just flash to usb with rufus, than shut down laptop plug usb click F2 do some setting stuff (ik what), and than shut down with saving, than click F12 and BAM, magic.
 Okay gn!
 @SerjSev [Ow ik, just flash to usb with rufus, than shut down laptop plug usb click F2 do …], Exactly.
[18:23]  * The_LoudSpeaker goes to sleep
 I forgot, you can tag me for queries if you have any problems. By typing @ and my nick. I will reply when I wake up and i am free.
 Bye.
[18:27]  * The_LoudSpeaker goes to sleep. Wtf! again?
 Cya, gn!
[18:49] <DeadPi> hi
[18:51] <DeadPi> nothing going on here? :D
 @DeadPi [<DeadPi> nothing going on here? :D], A lot is!
 Just not at this moment
 It would help if they actually stayed