[00:16] <makar47> Привет! На русском можно?
[00:19] <shibboleth> perestrpoika
[00:19] <dnull> "/print -newbuffer chanmon -tags ,irc_privmsg,notify_message,prefix_nick_lightmagenta,nick_shibboleth,host_~shibbolet@gateway/tor-sasl/shibboleth,log1, F06freeF12+F06#ubuntu\t
[00:19] <shibboleth> perestroika
[00:19] <dnull> "/print -newbuffer chanmon -tags ,irc_privmsg,notify_message,prefix_nick_lightmagenta,nick_shibboleth,host_~shibbolet@gateway/tor-sasl/shibboleth,log1, F06freeF12+F06#ubuntu\t
[00:19] <shibboleth> wtf?
[00:19] <dnull> "/print -newbuffer chanmon -tags ,irc_privmsg,notify_message,prefix_nick_lightmagenta,nick_shibboleth,host_~shibbolet@gateway/tor-sasl/shibboleth,log1, F06freeF12+F06#ubuntu\t
[00:20] <rfm> !ru|makar47
[00:20] <dnull> "/print -newbuffer chanmon -tags ,irc_privmsg,notify_message,prefix_nick_magenta,nick_rfm,host_~rfm@2600:1700:dc40:2830:1875:afa5:c5f8:d1e,log1, F06freeF12+F06#ubuntu\t
[00:20] <dnull> "/print -newbuffer chanmon -tags ,irc_privmsg,notify_message,prefix_nick_default,nick_ubottu,host_~ubottu@ubuntu/bot/ubottu,log1, F06freeF12+F06#ubuntu\t
[00:21] <netz> ok
[00:21] <dnull> "/print -newbuffer chanmon -tags ,irc_privmsg,notify_message,prefix_nick_blue,nick_netz,host_netz@butt.boutique,log1, F06freeF12+F06#ubuntu\t
[00:21] <netz> dnull: i think u broke something
[00:21] <dnull> "/print -newbuffer chanmon -tags ,irc_privmsg,notify_message,prefix_nick_blue,nick_netz,host_netz@butt.boutique,log1, F06freeF12+F06#ubuntu\t
[00:21] <dnull> "/print -newbuffer highmon -tags ,irc_privmsg,notify_message,prefix_nick_blue,nick_netz,host_netz@butt.boutique,log1, F06freeF12+F06#ubuntu\t<F10F09netz>
[00:21] <dnull> "/print -newbuffer chanmon -tags ,irc_privmsg,notify_none,self_msg,no_highlight,prefix_nick_white,nick_dnull,log1, F06freeF12+F06#ubuntu\t
[00:23] <makar47> how can i bind a buttons (prev/next) on wifi earsphone with some app?
[00:23] <dnull> "/print -newbuffer chanmon -tags ,irc_privmsg,notify_message,prefix_nick_lightblue,nick_makar47,host_~igor@46.162.8.181,log1, F06freeF12+F06#ubuntu\t
[00:24] <Joah> .
[00:24] <dnull> "/print -newbuffer chanmon -tags ,irc_privmsg,notify_message,prefix_nick_cyan,nick_Joah,host_joe@unaffiliated/joah,log1, F06freeF12+F06#ubuntu\t
[00:24] <Joah> :a
[00:24] <dnull> "/print -newbuffer chanmon -tags ,irc_privmsg,notify_message,prefix_nick_cyan,nick_Joah,host_joe@unaffiliated/joah,log1, F06freeF12+F06#ubuntu\t
[00:33] <makar47> hmm ... no one can hear me? Or nobody knows? Or is my english really bad?
[00:34] <dnull> Sorry, broke my client
[00:43] <ThiefMaster> does a normal ubuntu installation also have a /bin/sh -> dash symlink (instead of bash), or is that only the case in the docker images?
[00:44] <Bashing-om> ThiefMaster: "sysop@x1804mini:~$ ls -al /bin/sh >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Apr  3  2018 /bin/sh -> dash".
[00:44] <rfm> makar47, apparently nobody knows
[00:45] <ThiefMaster> blergh. thanks
[00:48] <makar47> rfm: ou, thnx
[00:50] <makar47> at least here understand me :)
[00:57] <Joah> the moon is right
[02:20] <bbert2> hi
[02:20] <bbert2> Im running ubuntu 19.10.1 on raspberry pi 4
[02:21] <bbert2> I've tried to connect two separate HD monitors to the device to check what xrandr says, but every time
[02:21] <bbert2> it says max res 1824x984
[02:21] <bbert2> while the natural res of the mons is full HD
[02:22] <bbert2> I feel like there must be some driver issue with raspberry pi 4 display driver
[02:23] <lotuspsychje> !arm
[02:34] <bbert2> lotuspsychje, thanks -- also think I found this issue in old irc threads yes, arm bios config issue
[02:34] <bbert2> arm bios is configured in a text file under /boot/ lol
[02:34] <bbert2> works now
[02:46] <TheSov> does anyone know how to add squelch functionality to a specific audio input?
[02:46] <TheSov> in other words I dont want to hear anything below a certain input threshold
[04:17] <slingamn> i installed mysql-server-8.0 version 8.0.18-0ubuntu0.19.10.1 on eoan
[04:18] <slingamn> it seems to be listening on *:33060
[04:18] <slingamn> mysql documentation says "Port 33060 is the default port for the MySQL Database Extended Interface (the MySQL X Protocol)."
[04:19] <slingamn> it's surprising that mysql appears to be listening on all interfaces out of the box
[04:19] <slingamn> is there some reason this isn't a concern?
[04:27] <slingamn> i can confirm that were it not for ufw, this port would be accessible over the public internet
[04:30] <tomreyn> slingamn: i'll test this on a VM quickly, can you look for an existing bug report in the meantime?
[04:30] <slingamn> ack
[04:38] <slingamn> didn't find anything
[04:39] <tomreyn> and the VM is slow, still updating. i'll ping you later.
[04:43] <tomreyn> i'm using "apt install mysql-server" which will install the same version 8.0.18-0ubuntu0.19.10.1
[04:46] <tomreyn> yes, i concur, it's listening on 33060 (tcp) by default. i don't really know whether it'sas much of a problem as the old protocol (3306) would be, though.
[04:48] <tomreyn> it still strikes me as wrong, though
[04:48] <tomreyn> slingamn: ^
[04:56] <slingamn> ah, thanks
[04:56] <slingamn> noted
[04:57] <tomreyn> i'm trying to use the "mysql" CLI to connect to my VM's LAN IP address on port 33060 now, but am getting: RROR 2007 (HY000): Protocol mismatch; server version = 11, client version = 10
[04:57] <tomreyn> this is discussed here https://dev.mysql.com/doc/relnotes/mysql-shell/8.0/en/news-8-0-16.html#mysql-shell-8-0-16-feature
[04:58] <tomreyn> "If you encounter this error then you are probably trying to use the wrong port for the protocol your client is using."
[04:58] <tomreyn> i guess i don't know how to use the Mysql X Protocol, yet
[05:02] <tomreyn> so that's apparently a separate client https://dev.mysql.com/get/Downloads/MySQL-Shell/mysql-shell_8.0.18-1ubuntu19.10_amd64.deb
[05:07] <tomreyn> slingamn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mhcMdHy94w/
[05:07] <tomreyn> so i could login, if i had credentials set, i guess.
[05:08] <tomreyn> by default, none will be set for the root user, possibly some are set for debian-mnt if this user still exists.
[05:08] <tomreyn> i mean "debian-sys-maint"
[05:09] <tomreyn> ERROR: MySQL Error 1045: Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'10.0.2.15' (using password: YES)
[05:09] <tomreyn> so that's not an immediate problem either.
[05:10] <slingamn> mmm
[05:10] <slingamn> there's some special-casing for root
[05:10] <slingamn> i think it encourages you to disable remote login for root
[05:11] <tomreyn> what is "it"?
[05:11] <slingamn> sorry, `mysql_secure_installation`
[05:12] <tomreyn> okay, i haven't run this manually, yet
[05:12] <slingamn> so anyway you've made me fairly confident that the default configuration doesn't actually allow remote authentication
[05:12] <slingamn> but, this still seems like a bad default
[05:12] <tomreyn> i agree. and i have not tested remote authentication as root after setting a password (have no password set, yet)
[05:14] <tomreyn> i'll file a bug now
[05:16] <slingamn> <3
[05:39] <tomreyn> slingamn: feel free to comment on bug 1857584
[05:45] <slingamn> thanks!
[08:18] <Cydfrey> Hello and merry Christmas
[08:18] <Cydfrey> I have a small question regarding notifications and the window list in Ubuntu 19.10
[08:18] <Cydfrey> Right now if a bell is sent in my terminal (it's Terminator but works with other terms), I got a popup telling me "/bin/bash is ready"
[08:18] <Cydfrey> I would like to remove the popup and, more importantly, make the icon in the window list turn yellow (or flash, any visible notification will be good for me)
[08:18] <Cydfrey> any ideas?
[08:40] <ducasse> Cydfrey: i expect you would get a visual indication if the urgency hint is set, but that would be up to the terminal to do. other than that i don't use gnome, so i can't help
[08:42] <Cydfrey> ducasse, well right now my guess is the urgency hint gives me this "is ready" popup, now I have to find out how to transform this popup into the type of notification I want
[08:43] <Cydfrey> but yes is probably gnome-relate
[08:44] <ducasse> do you get the popup if other applications set the urgency hint?
[08:45] <Cydfrey> I get it when I launch a new window and it does not take the focus right away
[08:45] <ducasse> that sounds annoying
[08:46] <Cydfrey> let me try to install another app to check
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> Cydfrey: in gnome settings you can enable/disable notifications per app
[08:50] <Cydfrey> hm, tried with Slack but it doesnt seem to use the urgency hint...
[08:50] <Cydfrey> lotuspsychje, what I really want to do is getting this flash in the window list
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> Cydfrey: another idea is dconf-editor tweaking
[08:51] <Cydfrey> I know how to disable the popup but I really need something to tell mu I got a message
[08:51] <Cydfrey> yeah tried that
[08:51] <Cydfrey> with no success
[09:23] <Cydfrey> I will try my luck on the Gnome irc channel, thanks for your help
[09:33] <N0Lif3> how do I change the boot-up screens to something not purple? I don't like the purple screen. I'd prefer it to be black if possible
[09:46] <makaveli7> it's probably plymouth theme
[09:46] <makaveli7> you need to change the theme
[10:36] <ramsub07> Hello I'd like to install Eigen on ubuntu from aptitude. However, I could only see the latest version to be 3.3.4, which i guess is at least 2yrs old now : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+package/libeigen3-dev How do I install more recent versions? Specifically, 3.3.6 : http://eigen.tuxfamily.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
[10:45] <tomreyn> !info libeigen3-dev eoan
[10:45] <tomreyn> ^ ramsub
[10:46] <tomreyn> i mean ramsub07
[10:46] <tomreyn> !latest | also this:
[10:47] <ramsub07> tomreyn https://pastebin.com/RpNuzskK
[10:47] <tomreyn> so maybe you're not on 19.10
[10:48] <ramsub07> tomreyn 18.04
[10:48] <ramsub07> so building from source is my only option?
[10:49] <tomreyn> upgrading to eoan is an option. building from source is an option. looking for a PPA or snap can be, too.
[10:50] <ramsub07> where do i find the ppA?
[10:53] <tomreyn> !ppa
[11:02] <Apachez> !tubgirl
[11:02] <Apachez> bah!
[11:41] <nikolam> I did get 1080p resolution on my monitor and AMD 7850 . Using cvt, sudo xrandr --newmode and sudo xrandr --addmode . And then switching to new resolution in Xfce Display GUI. But how to remember resolution for the next reboot?
[11:42] <nikolam> Seems like only 1024X768 resolution is recognized automatically from this Philips 236V monitor
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: when the graphics driver is installed correctly, ubuntu should detect the right resolution for your screen
[11:43] <nikolam> Because even on MS Windows, I had to manually and explicitly add 1080p in AMD settings..
[11:43] <nikolam> lotuspsychje, I use amdgpu/radeon from Ubuntu 19.10 repos, nothing else I think
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> how many inch is your screen?
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> 23" ?
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: ^
[11:58] <nikolam> lotuspsychje, yes
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: so your res should be optimal at: 1920 x 1080 bij 60 Hz
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> isnt that res shown in your screen settings?
[11:59] <nikolam> yes it is, only it is now, but on reboot it's will be back to 1024X768 .Woudl like to stay on 1920X1080 on reboot
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: i mean wasnt it shown in your screen settings by default?
[12:00] <nikolam> It is not shown in settings, because 1080p is not recognized on reboot. Only after I do  cvt, sudo xrandr --newmode and sudo xrandr --addmode , then it is shown
[12:01] <nikolam> No it wasn't shown by default. By default it only shows up to 1024X768
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: you can add it to your profile like this method: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2017/04/custom-screen-resolution-ubuntu-desktop/
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: but my point is, when ubuntu doesnt pickup something by default, you could consider a new !bug
[12:02] <nikolam> lotuspsychje, but that would be only for me as a user account. it should work no matted what user is logged on
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: this also happens on ubuntu-desktop with gnome for example?
[12:02] <nikolam> I am using only Xfce at the moment. I could try boot from Live media and check maybe
[12:03] <nikolam> but I guess it's driver/monitor issue
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: and you sure your driver is loaded correctly right? sudo lshw -C video
[12:05] <nikolam> with previous machine and monitor, I had this configuration, but it were working off from Intel graphics and does not work when I put it in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/5-monitor.conf : https://pastebin.com/azaTbR7f
[12:06] <nikolam> lshw: https://pastebin.com/r5GgBV6j
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: thats a hybrid amd/intel card you using?
[12:08] <nikolam> Monitor is connected directly over VGA , to analogue passive DVI>VGA adapter on AMD 7850 DVI output. So I think not using hybrid output. Maybe I could in the future.
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> erm
[12:09] <nikolam> Maybe for now I would be happy just to recreate new /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/5-monitor.conf for 7850 output
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: wich computer brand/type are you using please
[12:11] <nikolam> HP ProDesk 600 G1 with i5 4570 , with AMD 7850 additional graphics
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: so, you plug in monitor via VGA and ubuntu chooses best res for that 1024/768 right?
[12:11] <nikolam> Chipset is intel Q87
[12:11] <nikolam> lotuspsychje, yes
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: you have dvi/hdmi output on that?
[12:12] <nikolam> And I also had to set manually 1080p resolution in AMD driver settings on MS Windows, too
[12:12] <nikolam> I also have HDMI. I would need to use HDMI>VGA adapter for that but I could try.
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> yeah try wich res ubuntu picks up on hdmi
[12:14] <nikolam> Ok, will try. On previous machine where 7850 were, putting in HDMI freezed display, so I might reboot for that.
[12:14] <nikolam> ok
[12:19] <retentiveboy> XPS 15 7590 running 19.10 indicates a firmware update is available to install but after applying it, the "Linux Firmware Update" boot option doesn't work. It runs the onboard diagnostics  instead of the firmware update.
[12:22] <retentiveboy> I see /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/fwupdx64.efi is there which I suspect is what's supposed to be used, not sure.
[12:23] <tomreyn> retentiveboy: you could file a bug here https://github.com/fwupd/lvfs-website/issues (or against ubuntu's fwupd)
[12:24] <retentiveboy> thx, been digging into this but haven't found one yet.
[12:25] <nikolam> lotuspsychje, Yes, on HDMI>VGA , Philips 236V monitor have recognized resolutions both in MS WIndows and XUbuntu 19.10 and I can set resoluition in 'Display' settings after log in.  I only don't get POST messages on boot, on 7850 HDMI>VGA but I CAN see GRUB2 boot menu nad can go into BIOS settings  if I blidly type before it, but it is hardware/firmware HDMI VGA thing and nothing to do with Ubuntu.
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: in my opinion, when a computer has a bigger graphics card, it should be used at fully potential
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> otherwise whats the point having the card running inside
[12:30] <nikolam> lotuspsychje, so I should not try using integrated Intel graphics for everyday tasks and try to set passthrough mode , that Video is showed from Intel side and only larger graphics is used for 3D and maybe decoding ?
[12:30] <nikolam> Wonder if that would save any power, ,wneh larger video card is there, idling, anyway.
[12:31] <nikolam> But that is how laptops do that I suppose
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: switching between intel/amd the hybrid way is something else then connecting the VGA port and fiddle around with xrandr manually trying to get 1080p res
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: i would reccomend connecting your screen with hdmi
[12:36] <nikolam> lotuspsychje, I am connecting now with HDMI cable form graphics cart, to HDMI>DVI adapter on monitor. It also works nice, I just need a reboot to confirm. I didn't have POST messages on boot with HDMI>VGA on 7850
[12:38] <nikolam> I also have 2 unused mini Display ports unused, too.
[12:38] <nikolam> thanks lotuspsychje
[12:38] <nikolam> It's also better picture over HDMI>DVI
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: your philips screen probably doesnt have hdmi right?
[12:42] <nikolam> lotuspsychje, it's some value series for office, 236V, so VGA and DVI there, but I have HDMI>DVI, adapter, I stuck it in the monitor and it works. Monitor supports HDCP (HDMI copy protection) to it's all ok for video playback too
[12:43] <nikolam> I guess I would use VGA with HDMI>VGA adapter then, for less important tasks.
[12:43] <nikolam> Also VGA image had some halo in the edges while using VGA input on monitor. It is now all gone when on DVI>HDMI
[12:47] <nikolam> thanks agaim, lotuspsychje
[13:17] <melatonina> Hello! I'm here to report that the "copy & paste" problems that I have with Ubuntu are related to the "KVM/QEMU Virtual Machine Manager" console window. If I close it, even if the virtual machine is still running, the clipboard works as expected. It's not an Ubuntu problem.
[14:28] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:46] <rapidwave> Is there a Windows Presentation Foundation comparable library/framework for Ubuntu/linux?
[14:54] <OerHeks> there is avalonia .. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/49574372/moving-a-wpf-program-to-linux = https://github.com/AvaloniaUI/Avalonia
[14:58] <Akuw> i am trying to install a local package that is in pool/main/c/  and is listed in Packages files
[14:58] <Akuw> but i got E: Unable to locate package daemonapp
[14:59] <EriC^^> Akuw: you mean from a live usb?
[14:59] <Akuw> no
[14:59] <Akuw> i copied to my hdd
[14:59] <Akuw> using local repository
[14:59] <Akuw> file://path/to/
[15:00] <EriC^^> Akuw: oh i see, did you refresh the package cache? sudo apt update
[15:00] <Akuw> yes
[15:00] <Akuw> ans i check the .deb files and are there
[15:00] <EriC^^> apt-cache policy <package> does it show your repos?
[15:01] <Akuw> yes
[15:01] <Akuw> i can install some packages but some can´t
[15:02] <Akuw> the 3 pinned packages are correct
[15:02] <OerHeks> a pastebin of the output might help..
[15:08] <Akuw> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yfHnDhzY7h/
[15:10] <OerHeks> oh, kali stuff
[15:12] <kostkon> !kali
[15:14] <codecutter> followed the steps here (see answer) to update to mysql 8 but command 'apt policy mysql-server
[15:14] <codecutter> ' is showing older version 'Installed: 5.7.28-0ubuntu0.18.04.4'  https://stackoverflow.com/questions/49963923/how-do-i-update-mysql-5-7-to-the-new-mysql-8-0
[15:19] <kostkon> codecutter, for starters you could pastebin your apt-cache policy output
[15:20] <ramsub07> Hi, i've compiled PCL from source. henceforth I'd like all the paths set to /usr/include/pcl-1.8 to be redirected to /custom/path/include/pcl . Should I create a symbolic link?
[15:21] <codecutter> kostkon https://pastebin.com/PGijcr3K
[15:23] <kostkon> codecutter, actually i meant the policy for that specific package. i apolofise if I wasn't clear enough
[15:23] <codecutter> command?
[15:24] <codecutter> https://pastebin.com/RQYLKzSD
[15:27] <dionysus69> so I have an old logitec usb webcam with a microphone and I want to make it work
[15:27] <dionysus69> but I could only get the video from guvcview application
[15:28] <dionysus69> and not the audio. other applications like cheese and skype dont even detect it
[15:28] <dionysus69> any hints appreciated!
[15:29] <dionysus69> lsusb output is this:
[15:29] <dionysus69> Bus 001 Device 007: ID 046d:08dd Logitech, Inc. QuickCam for Notebooks
[15:30] <codecutter> kostkon see above
[15:30] <Aristide> Hello ! I have a small problem : When I launch KDE Apps from XFCE, I don't have icons in menu, toolbar, tree, lists .... I have installed breeze and setting icon to breeze from KDE config manager : Same problem
[15:30] <Aristide> So, is not only KDE 5 apps, but all Qt5 apps
[15:43] <codecutter> Nothing?
[15:45] <Aristide> codecutter: Yes. Only text
[15:46] <codecutter> I was taking about responses to my question :)
[15:46] <ioria> codecutter, you could try ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-apt-config'
[15:47] <codecutter> after that?
[15:47] <ioria> codecutter, sudo apt-get update
[15:51] <codecutter> ioria https://pastebin.com/uiekFJTb
[15:54] <crunchy-dorito> anyone ever had any success passing a WiFi adaptor from host to guess in Virtualbox?
[15:54] <crunchy-dorito> guest
[15:54] <ioria> codecutter, bha,  try 'sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys 8C718D3B5072E1F5'
[15:55] <codecutter> ioria then?
[15:55] <ioria> codecutter, sudo apt-get update
[15:57] <codecutter> ioria https://pastebin.com/333D2vDU
[15:57] <ioria> codecutter, apt-cache policy mysql-server
[15:58] <codecutter> ioria https://pastebin.com/puyxd98t
[15:58] <ioria> codecutter, Candidate: 8.0.18-1ubuntu18.04
[15:59] <codecutter> right, what does that mean>
[15:59] <codecutter> ?
[15:59] <ioria> codecutter, what you mean ?
[15:59] <codecutter> mysql --version is still pointing to 5.7.28
[15:59] <ioria> codecutter, you need to install it
[16:00] <codecutter> ah
[16:00] <codecutter> as for the other error https://pastebin.com/333D2vDU
[16:00] <codecutter> ?
[16:00] <ioria> codecutter, btw, what you're asking is not supported here
[16:04] <codecutter> ioria u mean the neo4j issue pasted above?
[16:11] <codecutter> sorted
[16:11] <codecutter> thx
[16:17] <theos> hi
[16:53] <theos> hi. nautilus isnt showing thumbnails in 18.04. how do i fix it?
[16:56] <SimonNL> might need a plugin for it  I'm not sure
[16:56] <SimonNL> think that was the case in nemo
[17:01] <ioria> theos, try : Nautilus -> Preferences -> Search & Preview  (if not working might depend on a not supported format)
[17:15] <makr8100> theos: I use kde, but have had similar issues in dolphin even with previews turned on...  Things to check are: dolphin supports per-format preview on/off, so make sure it's enabled for that type.  Temp directories are used to create thumbnails, and I've had "gotcha moments" with both file permissions on the temp directory as well as disk space ran out
[17:27] <ramsub07> Hi, I've found occurance of a string in all files present in the current directory using "grep -nr "string" ."
[17:28] <ramsub07> now i'd like to replace them with another string. how do I do this?
[17:31] <rfm> ramsub07, lots of examples in https://stackoverflow.com/questions/11392478/how-to-replace-a-string-in-multiple-files-in-linux-command-line
[17:55] <theos> makr8100 i think evince-thumbnailer has permissions issue
[17:56] <ph88> is there already a feature freeze for 20.04 ?
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> ph88: #ubuntu+1 for fossa support
[17:59] <theos> pcmanfm is also not using the thumbnailers
[18:01] <HypothesisFrog> Hi. I'm having difficulty setting up python cgi scripts in apache2. My cgi scripts just won't execute. Is there an 18.10 specific howto?
[18:03] <HypothesisFrog> sorry, I mean a 19.10 specific howto
[18:10] <ph88> i'm trying to install R with apt, but i'm getting an error https://bpaste.net/J2KQ can someone help ?
[18:11] <EriC^^> ph88: it looks like /usr/include/jerror.h is a common file between 2 packages, so it wont overwrite it and stops
[18:12] <ph88> what can i do about it ?
[18:12] <EriC^^> ph88: if you're sure you won't break the other package, you could use dpkg with --force-overwrite i think
[18:13] <ph88> i don't know about the other packages
[18:13] <EriC^^> if you want copy /usr/include/jerror.h somewhere and after the override you could do a diff on both files to see if they're the same
[18:13] <EriC^^> ph88: basically you want to see if both files are the same i guess
[18:13] <EriC^^> files in libjpeg9-dev:amd64 1:9c-2 and files in libjpeg-turbo8-dev:amd64
[18:14] <EriC^^> i think you can do dpkg -x or something to extract the deb file somewhere, then check using diff if you want
[18:22] <ph88> EriC^^, how can i remove the old package ? apt is broken now on this error to do anything
[18:23] <ph88> oh got it
[18:23] <ph88> dpkg to the rescue
[18:26] <EriC^^> yup
[18:48] <evit> How I test that I am connecting via Firefox to an IPv6 address of a webserver?
[19:14] <tds> evit: you might want to look at ipvfoo
[19:16] <cmhobbs> hey folks!  i'm trying to dual boot win10 and ubuntu 19.  when i get to the installation type, i choose "something else" and set up an efi partition, a /boot partition, and /.  the installer gets all the way nearly to the end and then when it gets to the part where it tires to configure grub, the whole thing crashes and i don't get any error messages, just a crash reporter.  i made the installation media with
[19:16] <cmhobbs> rufus and set the boot type to gpt and uefi.  any thoughts?
[19:16] <cmhobbs> fedora installed fine on this machine, just as a sanity check
[19:16] <cmhobbs> all the dual boot tutorials i've found online say nothing about creating an efi partition but the disk partitioning tool complains if i don't
[19:26] <pragmaticenigma> cmhobbs, is your computer actually setup with GPT based partitioning?
[19:27] <cmhobbs> i'm going to show my ignorance but how do i double check?
[19:27] <cmhobbs> i imagine that'd be visible in the bios?
[19:28] <TheSov> any way to squelch an audio input channel in pulse?
[19:29] <TheSov> err audio output
[19:31] <pragmaticenigma> cmhobbs, I don't know how to check, offering an idea for you to investigate. Personally I don't dual boot, but I know that several things must be done before hand. Including ensure windows does not have "fast startup" enabled.
[19:31] <cmhobbs> sure, that's all disabled
[19:31] <OerHeks> fedora installed fine with gpt and uefi?
[19:31] <cmhobbs> i don't typically use windows, this is my son's machine.  he wants to play some games on windows but doesn't want to lose linux
[19:31] <cmhobbs> yes, fedora installed without me doing anything but clicking 'next'
[19:32] <cmhobbs> and drooling
[19:32] <cmhobbs> that's with windows already installed, naturally
[19:32] <cmhobbs> he asked for ubuntu after i had installed fedora (they're using fedora at his school, he was using ubuntu previously0
[19:32] <cmhobbs> s/o/\)
[19:32] <pragmaticenigma> cmhobbs, I'm not certain what the problem could be then. Though, Fedora runs bleeding edge software. It could be that Ubuntu's installer isn't interpreting the Fedora managed GRUB instance.
[19:33] <cmhobbs> no, i completely obliterated the fedora install
[19:33] <cmhobbs> wiped out that set of partitions
[19:33] <cmhobbs> it was nothing but free space
[19:33] <cmhobbs> when i went to install ubuntu
[19:33] <pragmaticenigma> TheSov, You may need to provide more information. "Squelch" isn't a common term for me for computing, I associate it with Citizen Band/Ham Radio operations. What are you experiencing and what are you trying to do?
[19:34] <OerHeks> !uefi
[19:35] <cmhobbs> i've combed that document but it's possible i've missed something
[19:35] <cmhobbs> i'll look again
[19:35] <OerHeks> one thing that comes in mind that if you set a password on bios, grub fails?
[19:35] <OerHeks> but fedora worked, so it must be something simple
[19:36] <cmhobbs> i figured it was the manual partitioning that i did
[19:36] <cmhobbs> the line that concerned me on that uefi document is this:  Warning: even if your PC boots the DVD in UEFI mode, it might boot the HDD in Legacy mode (and the contrary).
[19:37] <cmhobbs> but, i get the screen that is "set up for uefi mode"
[19:37] <EriC^^> cmhobbs: nah, it could be for a number of reasons, try doing ubiquity -b to launch the installer and it wont install the bootloader, once it's done chroot to the install and manuall install grub and investigate
[19:37] <cmhobbs> also a decent idea, thanks
[19:38] <EriC^^> a possible cause is that the nvram doesnt allow writing for instance, then you'd need to use the default uefi paths (/efi/boot/bootx64.efi and /efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi) as efi files instead of adding any ubuntu entries to the nvram
[19:38] <EriC^^> grub-install --removeable-media or something does that
[19:43] <cmhobbs> thanks
[19:52] <EriC^^> cmhobbs: np
[19:58] <denza242> hi, how would i migrate my ubuntu install to a different hard drive in the same system
[19:58] <denza242> its a dual boot system btw
[19:59] <EriC^^> denza242: you could create a partition of the same size there, then dd the partition from a live usb
[19:59] <EriC^^> denza242: if you plan on keeping it on the first one, you'd need to change the uuid of the fs so it doesn't mix stuff up while mounting on bootup
[20:04] <makr8100> if the drives are the same size (or the newer is larger) I'd dd the whole drive
[20:05] <makr8100> if the new drive is larger you'll want to expand partitions after it's done, which takes some manipulating of the partition and possibly file system depending on which file system you're using
[20:05] <makr8100> no matter which method you use with dd it will have to run from a live os, you can't dd a booted system
[20:06] <ioria> well, i did :þ
[20:06] <makr8100> :|
[20:07] <ioria> it worked afair
[20:07] <makr8100> I mean it'll succeed but may be unusable/unstable
[20:09] <makr8100> I'm not saying it couldn't work, but the more write ops on the partition you're dd-ing the more your data will not copy properly.  I suppose if you treat the system you're copying like it was a win98 pc downloading a huge porn vid on dialup it has a fighting chance
[20:09] <EriC^^> probably remounting ro on the source install would help in that case
[20:14] <GoodTimesImmort> hello room
[20:18] <ChiLLabiS> Hi GoodTimesImmort
[20:30] <GoodTimesImmort> So I like to dive head first into pools. I'm about to force myself to deep dive into Ubuntu/Python/Computer Science from almost scratch by creating my own server from an old computer...
[20:31] <GoodTimesImmort> If anyone can talk me out of it  or give the final push, it's going to be someone in this room.
[20:33] <sonicwind> GoodTimesImmort, what do you use now, if not Linux? W10?
[20:33] <ioria> GoodTimesImmort, it's not clear what you need exactly; there is an ubuntu server edition and both it and desktop ed  are  very well integrated with python
[21:05] <eamonnmr> So I'm trying to figure out Clonezilla to replace the hard drive on my dual boot setup
[21:06] <eamonnmr> Should I bother trying to make a compressed backup of the 171gb contents of the current HDD to a 160gb external drive... or should I see if I can stick my new drive into a USB enclosure and just try and clonezilla directly to the new drive?
[21:07] <eamonnmr> (I'm not sure if my enclosure will fit the new drive... and it'd be nice to have an extra backup drive kicking around)
[21:07] <eamonnmr> (But that does not seem to be Clonezilla's preferred mode of operation.
[21:07] <eamonnmr> In the meantime, time to upgrade the memory!
[21:15] <linux_dr_arcules> Wondering if there is a more robust mechanism than /var/run/reboot-required.pkgs for determining that a package requires other processes, or the whole system, to be rebooted.
[21:20] <eamonnmr> Memory swap successful! Now rocking 16gb memory on this x220
[21:21] <eamonnmr> Anybody have any good tuts on HDD migrations for dual boot systems?
[21:26] <Dynetrekk> is there an USB live image I can use to diagnose my filesystems? LVM with / and SWAP partitions only, ubuntu 18.04
[21:27] <pragmaticenigma> linux_dr_arcules, There is not
[21:29] <GoodTimesImmort> "sonicwind" I'm using Ubuntu on a Laptop, The donor server has Windows 10 but I'm ok with wiping and starting with Ubuntu Server if I understand correctly
[21:29] <linux_dr_arcules> pragmaticenigma, does anyone see value in creating one? Or see issues with the current mechanism?
[21:31] <GoodTimesImmort> "ioria" I guess I'm trying to have someone more knowledgeable or with a similar experience to give me their opinion or experience
[21:31] <pragmaticenigma> linux_dr_arcules, This channel focuses it's efforts on supporting the Desktop os. System organization and archetecture are better held in either #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-devel
[21:33] <linux_dr_arcules> pragmaticenigma, fair enough
[21:33] <linux_dr_arcules> thanks
[21:34] <EriC^^> Dynetrekk: diagnose how? a fsck?
[21:36] <Dynetrekk> EriC^^ yeah maybe - but the system is running now (I'm here)
[21:48] <TheSov> im trying to mute audio output unless its beyond a certain amplitude
[21:48] <TheSov> but only on a specific application
[21:53] <pragmaticenigma> TheSov, there is no such feature
[21:54] <mouses> TheSov: not sure about that, you could do it with a hardware mixer for sure - software for that might be a whole different animal
[22:08] <eamonnmr> Ugh, additional problem: the SSD isn't recognized by Ubuntu even when I install it internally
[22:08] <eamonnmr> https://askubuntu.com/a/1148150 seems to address the problem, but both solutions require installing windows on the drive
[22:10] <eamonnmr> I was hoping there was a way to just dump my current partitions straight onto the drive from Ubuntu without having to do another windows install... but it seems like that isn't the right move.
[22:10] <OerHeks> i think just setting raid>ahci does not need reinstall of windows
[22:10] <OerHeks> easy check to do
[23:49] <MrSassyPants> Why does mount refuse to mount a fat32 loop file with EXEC? It keeps forcing noexec.
[23:52] <MrSassyPants> This is when fstab is being used. It works as it should if I mount with sudo mount (...) -o exec
[23:53] <MrSassyPants> this is with the users flag
[23:59] <tomreyn> my guess would be that's because unix acl's can't be enforced on fat.