| kc2bez | I miss the bot :( If only there was a way to fix that ;) | 02:00 |
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| lubot | <HMollerCl> Woops, today was thursday | 02:14 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> Yeah, we've missed a few of them. The holidays seem to have been a contributing factor. | 02:15 |
| lubot | <lynorian> understood | 02:16 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @kc2bez [<kc2bez> I miss the bot :( If only there was a way to fix that ;)], How late will you be around? When I'm done with my workout in about an hour to hour and a half I can show you | 02:18 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [Woops, today was thursday], Well we all know the big news ;) but agreed | 02:18 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @tsimonq2 [How late will you be around? When I'm done with my workout in about an hour to h …], Otherwise some other day; I can document it all and just give you the details. Up to you | 02:19 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> @tsimonq2 [Otherwise some other day; I can document it all and just give you the details. U …], We can do it some other time, I was mostly just giving you a little jab :) I hope to be sleeping by then XD | 02:20 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Okay :) | 02:20 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> No worries | 02:20 |
| lubot | <lynorian> big news did I miss something? | 02:21 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> @The_LoudSpeaker became a Lubuntu developer today. | 02:21 |
| guiverc | Congatulations @The_LoudSpeaker ! | 02:32 |
| guiverc | (& well done, keep up the good work) | 02:33 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> I think wxl would agree that he reminds me a little of...myself pre-MOTU :) | 02:34 |
| lubot | <lynorian> super enthusiastic | 02:35 |
| wxl | 03:20 | |
| wxl | @kc2bez i thought we were going to get @teward001 to give you ssh access to you could kick the bot | 04:03 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2 i think if you look at my last comment on raman's application, you'll see i most certainly agree with you | 04:05 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @guiverc [<guiverc> Congatulations @The_LoudSpeaker !], Thanks! | 05:34 |
| guiverc | I just noticed a bug in #ubuntu-bugs-announce; crash when non-english is used for install (kub 19.10); maybe we should have testcase (any combination but NOT default-english language) | 12:50 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Nice idea. We should add it to testing-checklist. | 13:12 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> We all can test in our own languages. I am excited to install in Hindi. | 13:13 |
| guiverc | :( it doesn't support 'ocker' (bad aussie mangled-english) | 13:15 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @HMollerCl [@tsimonq2 pulled, need something else to appear in the daily?], @tsimonq2 ^ do I need to do something more so package is updated? | 14:10 |
| lubot | <teward001> @wxl [<wxl> @kc2bez i thought we were going to get @teward001 to give you ssh access t …], were we? | 15:27 |
| lubot | <teward001> nobody told me :P | 15:27 |
| wxl | @teward001 yeah please give kc2bez ssh access :) | 18:47 |
| wxl | focal daily didn't build like normal today. i bumped it and now we have an image again | 20:50 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Do we know what the issue was there? | 21:01 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> I pushed the new Cala yesterday we should probably check that soon too. | 21:02 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2 looks like infra issues | 21:03 |
| wxl | there wasn't even a build log | 21:03 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2 looks like infra issues], Oh nice | 21:03 |
| wxl | it did attempt to build for 75 minutes, but no clue what it was doing | 21:03 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> weird | 21:04 |
| wxl | i'm thinking perhaps it stalled and then hit some timeout | 21:04 |
| wxl | RikMills suggested that not having logs does happen sometimes with such infrastructure issues | 21:04 |
| RikMills | I know it does. not usual, but when you have done 1000's, you see it every once in a while | 21:06 |
| wxl | i might kick bionic too | 21:08 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> It would be a nice project for someone to figure out how to make latest LTS builds not fail once in a while because of kernel dep messes | 21:08 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Like just make it retry itself once, which usually fixes the issue... | 21:09 |
| wxl | could easily be done in the cronjob | 21:09 |
| lubot | <RikMills> Does not help that they build with proposed pocket! | 21:09 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> The only issue with that is that the automatic retry should happen iff it's a kernel dep issue | 21:09 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @RikMills [Does not help that they build with proposed pocket!], Right | 21:09 |
| wxl | why is eoan still on the iso tracker manifest? | 21:10 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Next time a build fails like that, I might be motivated to get to the bottom of it | 21:10 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> why is eoan still on the iso tracker manifest?], Probably because of 19.10.1 Pi images | 21:10 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> But I'd personally poke Adam and sil2100 | 21:10 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> (sil2100 did the release but Adam actually uses a bouncer...) | 21:11 |
| wxl | i mean i don't care all that much. it's just messy | 21:11 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> I suspect, but don't know for sure, that sil2100 either doesn't know how to remove it or didn't remember | 21:11 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> That's okay though, like I said I think it's a pretty easy fix... | 21:12 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> I also think that most of the usual Canonicallers modulo IS may be out on vac | 21:12 |
| wxl | the cron job could just wait a couple hours, test for the iso a la http, and failing that, rebuild | 21:13 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> BY THE WAY wxl, modulo is the correct word in this situation. I've been waiting months to make my point on this | 21:13 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> So for example 10 % 3? That's 1 | 21:13 |
| wxl | yes dear | 21:13 |
| wxl | anyways bionic is showing the same symptoms | 21:14 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Modulo is the remainder given a certain division operation | 21:14 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> So, yes :) | 21:14 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Anyway | 21:14 |
| lubot | <RikMills> and...................? | 21:14 |
| wxl | livefs doesn't build, fails to go to sync https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/lubuntu/bionic/daily-live-20191227.log | 21:14 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @RikMills [and...................?], At one point wxl said I didn't know what I was talking about and I just remembered that conversation | 21:14 |
| wxl | if you go track down the buildlog for livefs, you won't find it https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/bionic/lubuntu/+build/196949 e.g. | 21:14 |
| wxl | i don't think i said that | 21:14 |
| wxl | although you often don't know what you're talking about :) | 21:14 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> the cron job could just wait a couple hours, test for the iso a la http, a …], Right, but I'm not sure we can automatically assume all bionic failures are due to this | 21:15 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> i don't think i said that], Yes you did | 21:15 |
| wxl | go find the logs or it didn't happen | 21:15 |
| wxl | anyways | 21:15 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> although you often don't know what you're talking about :)], Only sometimes; sometimes I do "fake it until I make it" | 21:15 |
| wxl | i hit the rebuild but no activity so far http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/384/builds | 21:15 |
| wxl | ah there it goes | 21:15 |
| wxl | jeez | 21:15 |
| wxl | infra IS in bad shap | 21:16 |
| wxl | e | 21:16 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> i hit the rebuild but no activity so far http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracke …], Rebuilds are on a five min cronjob | 21:16 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> So if you request it at FOO:12 it won't ever build until FOO:15 | 21:16 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Etc. | 21:16 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> I think it throws it into an SQL database which Nusakan just reads from every five minutes... | 21:17 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Not really ideal but hey, it works | 21:17 |
| lubot | <RikMills> Updating in real time would just waste some CPU heat | 21:17 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @RikMills [Updating in real time would just waste some CPU heat], Yeah, I don't think that the benefit of having it happen instantly outweighs the engineering cost of implementing it | 21:18 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> But it is worth noting that such a delay exists | 21:18 |
| wxl | weird the bionic log is truncated but it seems to have published https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/lubuntu/bionic/daily-live-20191227.1.log | 21:49 |
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