[02:00] I miss the bot :( If only there was a way to fix that ;) [02:14] Woops, today was thursday [02:15] Yeah, we've missed a few of them. The holidays seem to have been a contributing factor. [02:16] understood [02:18] @kc2bez [ I miss the bot :( If only there was a way to fix that ;)], How late will you be around? When I'm done with my workout in about an hour to hour and a half I can show you [02:18] @HMollerCl [Woops, today was thursday], Well we all know the big news ;) but agreed [02:19] @tsimonq2 [How late will you be around? When I'm done with my workout in about an hour to h …], Otherwise some other day; I can document it all and just give you the details. Up to you [02:20] @tsimonq2 [Otherwise some other day; I can document it all and just give you the details. U …], We can do it some other time, I was mostly just giving you a little jab :) I hope to be sleeping by then XD [02:20] Okay :) [02:20] No worries [02:21] big news did I miss something? [02:21] @The_LoudSpeaker became a Lubuntu developer today. [02:32] Congatulations @The_LoudSpeaker ! [02:33] (& well done, keep up the good work) [02:34] I think wxl would agree that he reminds me a little of...myself pre-MOTU :) [02:35] super enthusiastic [03:20]  [04:03] @kc2bez i thought we were going to get @teward001 to give you ssh access to you could kick the bot [04:05] @tsimonq2 i think if you look at my last comment on raman's application, you'll see i most certainly agree with you [05:34] @guiverc [ Congatulations @The_LoudSpeaker !], Thanks! [12:50] I just noticed a bug in #ubuntu-bugs-announce; crash when non-english is used for install (kub 19.10); maybe we should have testcase (any combination but NOT default-english language) [13:12] Nice idea. We should add it to testing-checklist. [13:13] We all can test in our own languages. I am excited to install in Hindi. [13:15] :( it doesn't support 'ocker' (bad aussie mangled-english) [14:10] @HMollerCl [@tsimonq2 pulled, need something else to appear in the daily?], @tsimonq2 ^ do I need to do something more so package is updated? [15:27] @wxl [ @kc2bez i thought we were going to get @teward001 to give you ssh access t …], were we? [15:27] nobody told me :P [18:47] @teward001 yeah please give kc2bez ssh access :) [20:50] focal daily didn't build like normal today. i bumped it and now we have an image again [21:01] Do we know what the issue was there? [21:02] I pushed the new Cala yesterday we should probably check that soon too. [21:03] @tsimonq2 looks like infra issues [21:03] there wasn't even a build log [21:03] @wxl [ @tsimonq2 looks like infra issues], Oh nice [21:03] it did attempt to build for 75 minutes, but no clue what it was doing [21:04] weird [21:04] i'm thinking perhaps it stalled and then hit some timeout [21:04] RikMills suggested that not having logs does happen sometimes with such infrastructure issues [21:06] I know it does. not usual, but when you have done 1000's, you see it every once in a while [21:08] i might kick bionic too [21:08] It would be a nice project for someone to figure out how to make latest LTS builds not fail once in a while because of kernel dep messes [21:09] Like just make it retry itself once, which usually fixes the issue... [21:09] could easily be done in the cronjob [21:09] Does not help that they build with proposed pocket! [21:09] The only issue with that is that the automatic retry should happen iff it's a kernel dep issue [21:09] @RikMills [Does not help that they build with proposed pocket!], Right [21:10] why is eoan still on the iso tracker manifest? [21:10] Next time a build fails like that, I might be motivated to get to the bottom of it [21:10] @wxl [ why is eoan still on the iso tracker manifest?], Probably because of 19.10.1 Pi images [21:10] But I'd personally poke Adam and sil2100 [21:11] (sil2100 did the release but Adam actually uses a bouncer...) [21:11] i mean i don't care all that much. it's just messy [21:11] I suspect, but don't know for sure, that sil2100 either doesn't know how to remove it or didn't remember [21:12] That's okay though, like I said I think it's a pretty easy fix... [21:12] I also think that most of the usual Canonicallers modulo IS may be out on vac [21:13] the cron job could just wait a couple hours, test for the iso a la http, and failing that, rebuild [21:13] BY THE WAY wxl, modulo is the correct word in this situation. I've been waiting months to make my point on this [21:13] So for example 10 % 3? That's 1 [21:13] yes dear [21:14] anyways bionic is showing the same symptoms [21:14] Modulo is the remainder given a certain division operation [21:14] So, yes :) [21:14] Anyway [21:14] and...................? [21:14] livefs doesn't build, fails to go to sync https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/lubuntu/bionic/daily-live-20191227.log [21:14] @RikMills [and...................?], At one point wxl said I didn't know what I was talking about and I just remembered that conversation [21:14] if you go track down the buildlog for livefs, you won't find it https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/bionic/lubuntu/+build/196949 e.g. [21:14] i don't think i said that [21:14] although you often don't know what you're talking about :) [21:15] @wxl [ the cron job could just wait a couple hours, test for the iso a la http, a …], Right, but I'm not sure we can automatically assume all bionic failures are due to this [21:15] @wxl [ i don't think i said that], Yes you did [21:15] go find the logs or it didn't happen [21:15] anyways [21:15] @wxl [ although you often don't know what you're talking about :)], Only sometimes; sometimes I do "fake it until I make it" [21:15] i hit the rebuild but no activity so far http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/384/builds [21:15] ah there it goes [21:15] jeez [21:16] infra IS in bad shap [21:16] e [21:16] @wxl [ i hit the rebuild but no activity so far http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracke …], Rebuilds are on a five min cronjob [21:16] So if you request it at FOO:12 it won't ever build until FOO:15 [21:16] Etc. [21:17] I think it throws it into an SQL database which Nusakan just reads from every five minutes... [21:17] Not really ideal but hey, it works [21:17] Updating in real time would just waste some CPU heat [21:18] @RikMills [Updating in real time would just waste some CPU heat], Yeah, I don't think that the benefit of having it happen instantly outweighs the engineering cost of implementing it [21:18] But it is worth noting that such a delay exists [21:49] weird the bionic log is truncated but it seems to have published https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/lubuntu/bionic/daily-live-20191227.1.log