[00:16] <Skyrider> ahasenack: No worries, I got it.
[00:16] <Skyrider> At least you can set seconds with systemd timer, you can't with cron.
[00:16] <Skyrider> Thanks :)
[00:17] <Skyrider> What do you mean with the random fuzz btw?
[01:30] <brobert> hi, Im running 19.10.1 and Im trying to restart networking
[01:30] <brobert> I read instructions to do,  systemctl restart system-networkd
[01:30] <brobert> but ubuntu 19.10 complains there is no system-networkd service
[01:30] <brobert> did the service name change?
[01:30] <tomreyn> you're missing a 'd' there
[01:30] <tomreyn> systemd-networkd
[01:30] <brobert> aw
[01:30] <brobert> lol
[01:33] <brobert> ok that works
[01:33] <brobert> Im using netplan
[01:33] <tomreyn> so which instructions did you read, did they have a typo?
[01:33] <brobert> or rather I was, ... but now Im afraid I screwed things up,,, because got fed up with it and uninstalled it
[01:33] <brobert> tomreyn, yeah not official
[01:34] <brobert> https://vitux.com/how-to-configure-networking-with-netplan-on-ubuntu/
[01:34] <tomreyn> maybe contact them and tell them about it to save others if you feel like it
[01:34] <brobert> So I made my netplan... and applied it... now I restarted the systemd-networkd...
[01:34] <brobert> tomreyn, yeah I will set a comment
[01:36] <brobert> im a little confused, I dont get anny errors from my netplan settings... Im not sure what the systemd-networkd   is doing with the config... if it fails or not
[01:36] <brobert> certainly I dont get an ip or anything
[01:36] <shibboleth> i was referred due to any complication caused by a default component of ubuntu supposedly being offtopic in there.
[01:37] <tomreyn> brobert: so what does      systemctl status systemd-networkd     have to say, what does    networkctl    say, how about     ip link    and    ip a    , how about the systemd journal in general?
[01:38] <tomreyn> shibboleth: that's untrue, i referred you here because you run ubuntu server and have questions regarding it.
[01:38] <shibboleth> do any configs govern "cloud-initramfs-copymods". i has somehow managed to mount some overlay onto "/lib/modules" for several months. this has caused a lot of issues
[01:38] <brobert> tomreyn, thanks..yes systemctl status gives me something
[01:38] <shibboleth> it has
[01:39] <brobert> wlan0 could not bring up interface
[01:39] <brobert> so seems the netplan was received... but not working
[01:39] <brobert> my netplan was for wlan0
[01:39] <shibboleth> removing "cloud-initramfs-copymods" leaves me with a "/lib/modules" for the kernel bionic was installed with
[01:40] <tomreyn> brobert: so      netplan apply     ran without errors?
[01:40] <shibboleth> which is not the same kernel i'm running a year later
[01:40] <brobert> tomreyn, yes
[01:40] <brobert> netplan -d apply no errors
[01:40] <shibboleth> which presents me with an issue if i now hope to generate a new initramfs?
[01:40] <tomreyn> brobert: i'd check the journal about what's not working.
[01:42] <brobert> tomreyn, how do I read the systemd journal is it in var/log?
[01:43] <tomreyn> brobert: journalctl
 shibboleth: that's untrue, i referred you here because you run ubuntu server and have questions regarding it.
[01:44] <shibboleth> oh really?
[01:44] <tomreyn> yes, you really weren't referred here because you were chatting "supposedly offtopic"
[01:45] <tomreyn> that was entirely separate.
 so, i remove "cloud-initramfs-copymods" .. why?
[01:46] <brobert> last line of journal is   one hour ago... systemd-journald: Journal stopped
[01:46] <brobert> so it crashed?
[01:46] <brobert> I guess I'll reboot and try again
[01:46] <shibboleth> OerHeks, to make it stop forcing an overlayfs onto /lib/modules
[01:46] <shibboleth> which has given me an ulcer by now
 do any configs govern "cloud-initramfs-copymods". i has somehow managed to mount some overlay onto "/lib/modules" for several months. this has caused a lot of issues
[01:56] <shibboleth> OerHeks, uninstalling it was apparently the wrong way to handle this, are there any docs outlining anything at all re this?
[02:01] <OerHeks> or what modules caused this to happen, i think "cloud-initramfs-copymods" should be possible.
[02:01] <shibboleth> that isn't a valid command neither with or without that package installed
[02:03] <OerHeks> yeah, curious, this last post says install it, and remove & reboot fixed it.
[02:03] <OerHeks> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/405146/removed-lib-modules-folder-after-every-reboot
[02:03] <shibboleth> yeah, same issue i read
[02:03] <OerHeks> anything special, installed HWE?
[02:03] <shibboleth> the other person was fortunate enough to not have updated his kernel
[02:03] <shibboleth> nope
[02:05] <shibboleth> i was able to resolve this by dropping the kernel, module and header .debs in /var/cache/apt/archives and reinstall the running verions
[02:06] <shibboleth> but my question remains: what is the purpose of "cloud-initramfs-copymods", is it governed by any configs and who thought it would be a good idea to break the install if it is removed?
[02:08] <OerHeks> UEFI?
[02:08] <shibboleth> yes
[02:09] <OerHeks> this is maybe one step closer
[02:13] <shibboleth> the only way this was at all visible was a line in the output of "df"
[02:14] <shibboleth> "copymods 1234    78780  1234   1% /lib/modules"
[02:15] <OerHeks> this bugreport gives copymod could not find modules https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-initramfs-tools/+bug/1766723
[02:15] <shibboleth> it is not at all apparent how and how this overlayfs is configured and forced upon the user
[02:16] <shibboleth> OerHeks, ?
[02:16] <OerHeks> same as yours, cruft left so  unable to generate a initramfs
[02:17] <shibboleth> "After copymods runs, modules can be found under /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/$(uname -r):"
[02:18] <shibboleth> how so?
[02:20] <OerHeks> this is fixed in 0.44 http://ubuntudiff.debian.net/q/uploaders/goneri%40debian.org
[02:34] <shibboleth> yes still affects a fully updated bionic?
[02:37] <shibboleth> question remains: do any configs govern this ubuntu-only "feature"? how/where does it force an overlayfs onto the rootfs
[02:39] <shibboleth> and if it has been known to be broken on bionic, what's up with it still being broken on bionic?
[11:46] <albech> what is the best practise to secure a running system. I know encryption like LUKS only secure systems at rest, but what if I wanted to secure the system from physical access while its running?
[12:16] <maswan> sturdy cabinet with a good lock
[12:19] <albech> where I come from the government loves to request access to digital equipment even with no or very little proof. I was wondering if it was possible to make their life harder.
[12:21] <maswan> well, if you manage to cut power to the server, encryption at rest is pretty sturdy
[12:23] <albech> maswan: aye, i am wondering if some door sensor to the dc could unmount the encrypted volumes and possible some internal network check if fails also could unmount.
[13:39] <bipul> I have simple query to know , How to update Packages.gz file{Metadata information regarding /pool packages} inside the .iso ?
[15:44] <shibboleth> i was asking some questions about "cloud-initramfs-copymods" and how it by default mounts an overlayfs at /lib/modules. this has caused quite a few issues for me over the last months and when removed managed to break the install since what's left doesn't match the running kernel
[15:44] <shibboleth> OerHeks suggested that the issue has been known and fixed in v0.44 yet bionic is still at 0.40
[15:45] <shibboleth> now, are there any configs governing this behavior?
[16:00] <shibboleth> basically, what i'm asking is: how do i disable this behavior so that i may back up content of the overlay?