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tatertotsFaTaL_G: if your unique use case is NOT dependent on Network Manager, seeing a fail or error related to Network Manager is low/no priority00:00
tatertotsFaTaL_G: so in short..you've got yourself worked up over nothing00:01
heap_hi. i am trying to setup ipsec tunel but getting error as http://paste.debian.net/1122997/00:06
FaTaL_Gtatertots: is there a simple way to force it to not create those services? I'm not worked up, but when I perform ubuntu updates and overall check in on the box, I look for errors/faults. Thus, this is a distraction I'd prefer to remove.00:06
heap_ no matching CHILD_SA config found ... any idea what issue it could be?00:07
FaTaL_Gout of sight out of mind -- not waste future brain cells on errors that are of no value. Its a sensible goal I'll eventually achieve00:08
tatertotsFaTaL_G: there may be some way to remove NetworkManager service from lingering after NetworkManager itself has been purged...but the juice probably isn't worth the squeeze, path of least resistance is to ignore it00:10
tatertotsFaTaL_G: the same way a tiger or lion that has just finished eating a big meal might ignore a small easy to catch prey00:11
tatertotsthe juice isn't worth the squeeze00:11
tatertotsFaTaL_G: our ot curiosity you installed ubuntu desktop or ubuntu server edition?00:13
tatertotsFaTaL_G: server stock has no network manager00:14
FaTaL_Glol00:15
tatertotsFaTaL_G: so i'll guess you installed desktop ubuntu and due to some action(s) you took subsequently network managere was uninstalled00:15
FaTaL_Gindeed00:15
tatertotsthat's what i figured00:15
FaTaL_GYea, I figured when the time comes, Im going to install server00:15
tatertotsno point in changing something that is working as intended00:16
FaTaL_Gthats probably worth more squeeze. Im desiring 19 more so because supposedly it will properly support brcfmmac4366c, but in the meantime, what I have works and I'm still learning00:16
jouleshi, is anyone aware with issues with opencl and multiple cards? I installed with opencl=legacy,pal but only one or the other is available? (pal works with vega legacy works with rx580). Is it known that you can't use both?00:18
tatertotsjoules: yes00:21
joulestatertots: thanks!00:22
c0nkerjust tried the Ubuntu 19.xx ISO, Ubuntu Disk creator'd it and mkusb'd it, tried all USB ports. Gonna try a new USB I bought00:28
c0nker(didnt work)00:29
joulestatertots: is there any links to that infomation that I can read? I get conflicting answers, that it should work.00:30
tatertotsjoules: i'll see if i can find some links..in mean time observe the output of xrandr command...like OpenGL ...even if a system has 2x i.e intel graphics and a Nvidia/AMD card 2x GPU's there will only be ONE 1x OpenGL "renderer".00:36
tatertotsjoules: OpenCL will have a "renderer"00:37
joulestatertots: I couldn't find much at all, except this one post https://devtalk.blender.org/t/unable-to-have-two-gpus-rx-5700-xt-rx-580-recognized-by-blender-simultaneously/10278/400:37
tatertotsjoules: i'll try to find some link for you but guys that have been around this stuff for some time know it's just the way it is00:38
tatertotsit is what it is00:38
joulesproblem is Jeroen is the AMD dev for blender.00:39
jeremy31They are what we thought they were00:39
tatertotslol00:39
joulestrust me i want you to be right tatertots then I'll sell this RX58000:39
tatertotsjoules: oops i didn't mean xrandr...00:40
joulesthis is opencl dude00:40
joulesi don't muck about just got 18.04 and hwe and amdgpu-pro drivers. sticking with AMDs "requirements" :/00:40
tatertotsjoules: i meant to type glxinfo|grep nGL00:41
tatertotsjoules: that's where you'll see ONE 1x renderer even in a multi GPU system00:41
joulesclinfo sees both but mesas opencl implementation is incomplete.00:41
joulesnah I have both man.00:41
joulesthis is openCL not GL :D00:42
tatertotsjoules: run> clinfo|nc termbin.com 999900:42
tatertotsjoules: share url/link here00:42
tatertotsjoules: i want to see these two "declared" "renderers" you speak of00:42
joulesyeah that's the mesa clinfo it shows both. just not the amdgpu-pro drivers.00:43
tatertotsshow it00:43
joulesjoules@joules-X8DAH:/home/julian$ clinfo00:43
joulesNumber of platforms                               2y00:43
joules200:43
joules:DS00:43
joulesclinfo from amd (/opt/amdgpu-pro/bin/clinfo) shows 1 but anyhow nvm.00:44
tatertotsclinfo from AMD shows ONE...that's what i would expect00:44
tatertotsas it must be "declared" and it's first come first served00:45
joulesdunno, just need some proper confirmation00:45
joulesdude your gunna trip my "doesn't know what he's talking about" wire soon.00:45
tatertotslol..that's fine..i've used this tatertots name on IRC for years00:46
tatertotslol00:46
tatertotsso long that people would laugh if you went around saying that after your wire was "tripped"00:47
c0nkerk it finally works, just gotta check everything works, thanks for the help00:48
otrenavHi. I'm exploring Ubuntu 19.10 with a fresh install and I'm tying to setup the gTile extension. I noticed that Ubuntu/something is receiving some keybindings before they reach gTile so I can't assign them within gTile. I've customized all available keybindings in the settings for the keyboard but can't find the ones I want gTile used. Is there an a list I can consult with all default keybindings in Ubuntu? I can't find what's taking the combo I want to00:49
otrenavuse (C-M-S-<right>).00:49
jouleswhat's the best supported kernel for amdgpu-pro drivers (yes I need opencl proversion from AMD).01:43
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jouleshi what xorg xserver-video driver do I need for vega?02:25
joulesand to completely purge hwe cancer from my system.02:34
joules:D02:34
joulesi did "apt remove ".*hwe*" but there's something hanging that pulls the rest in :/ (xorg)02:34
Bashing-omjoules: A bit involved to revert: run: "sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-input-all libwayland-egl1-mesa "; And then clean up :  "sudo apt purge linux-generic-lts-bionic xserver-xorg-core-lts-bionic xserver-xorg-lts-bionic xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-bionic xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-bionic02:42
Bashing-omlibwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-bionic".02:42
joulescool thanks.02:46
Bashing-omjoules: ^^ that is supposing that you are running 18.04 :D02:50
joulesyeap ;)02:50
joulesneed to get back to basic then try one more time with this opencl stuff then give up.02:51
jouleshi, trying to start xorg, but its looking for drivers with "driver" however packages and search and actual directory has "driver_dri" is there a package configure option anyone knows about? rather not have to make symlinks myself if possible.03:26
joulesnvm broken symlinks to amdgpu-pro hanging about :/03:32
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vfbsilvaguys can I have a small help regarding the install? I dont get the uefi naming on ubuntu04:00
tomreynvfbsilva: uefi naming? whats unclear, whats not working as expected (what did you expect), how is it actually working)?04:00
vfbsilvatomreyn: im uploading a pic sec04:01
vfbsilvatomreyn: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPfrMSkqo59KiklTgDiMRmaaysyHXwJ6QfCkYpHUt55y0VAfVUf-h3oBaS1s8m0mQ?key=VnNhVWdFaWdDV2R0cTR4U0QzUUw1YWhPaEQ4OTNR04:04
vfbsilvaso is uefi setup on sda5?04:04
tomreynsda2 is the efi system partition04:04
vfbsilvaokay so should /boot be on sda2?04:05
tomreynthis is where all operating systems should place their boot loader and the mainboard firmware (the UEFI) will load it from (if it's the first efi system partition (ESP) it finds across all disks)04:05
vfbsilvacause in manjaro I have a /boot/uefi partition04:06
tomreyngrub will place its first part on the ESP, then load the rest from sda504:06
tomreynsda2 will become /boot/efi/ on the final system04:07
tomreynsda5 will become /boot04:07
vfbsilvaokay04:07
vfbsilvatomreyn: thanks a lot04:07
tomreynvfbsilva: you're welcome.04:08
tomreynvfbsilva: oh the boot loader target option you have there on the bottom should probably still point to sda504:09
vfbsilvait does04:10
tomreynthis is probably correct, i think grub realizes there is an ESP at sda2 automatically and places its first part there.04:10
tomreynok04:10
vfbsilvatomreyn: everything worked thanks a alot04:16
lhufHello04:43
lhufAnyone here04:49
tomreynhi lhuf, do you have an ubuntu support question?04:53
lhufYes04:53
tomreyn!ask04:53
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:53
lhufI am trying to install ubuntu on my alienware r4 but the installer freezes randomly after a certain amount of time and then shows this error: tpm_crb MSFT0101:00 [Firmware bug]: ACPI region does not cover tsponse buffer04:55
tomreynhave you done a bios update recently?04:56
lhufAbout 2 weeks ago yes04:57
tomreynas the message states, this is likely caused by a bios bug04:57
tomreynit may be possible to work around it, though. which ubuntu version are you trying to install there?04:58
lhuf18.04 lts04:58
tomreyn18.04.0 or .1 or .2 or .3, do you know?04:59
lhufErm 18.04.304:59
tomreynyou can probably work aorund this by booting with the    pcie_aspm=off   kernel parameter05:00
tomreyn!kernelparm05:00
ubottuTo add a one-time or permanent kernel boot parameter see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters05:00
lhufSo if I am trying to install this how would I do this? As if I hit try ubuntu before installing it still crashes after less than a minute05:01
tomreynlhuf: did you read the link ubottu posted, yet?05:04
tomreynyou asked less than a minute after it was posted, so i assume you did not?05:04
lhufOhh so I can do this while its booting I see, should i do the temporary one?05:05
tomreynlhuf: yes05:05
lhufThank you05:05
tomreynyou're welcome, let me know how it worked05:06
tomreynlhuf: if this issue persists after installation (i.e. on the installed system, even after it was fully updated AND rebooted), you may want to check whether you can disable the TPM (sometimes called "fTPM") on your UEFI / BIOS configuration screens.05:12
tomreynonly if that's not available there you should permanently configure the     pcie_aspm=off    kernel parameter as discussed on the wiki link above.05:13
happyamosHello05:15
tomreynhi happyamos, do you have an ubuntu support question?05:16
happyamosNope, just confirming my login works05:16
tomreyncool. you can use the /ping IRC command also for this purpose.05:17
happyamosCool, thanks :)05:17
lhufSo I entered the command you said on gnu grub then hit ctrl x and nothing happened05:17
lhufAlso my grub just says grub> it doesn't have any of the other areas like the images in the explanation you also linked to05:18
tomreynthis is a grub CLI, which shows when you hit escape twice. you can return to the grub menu where you can edit those records by typing "menu" i think05:19
tomreynhmm no it's not "menu"05:20
tomreyntype "exit" or "normal", then hit escape again05:21
tomreynin quick succession05:21
tomreynlhuf: does this help?05:24
lhufStill crashed :( after the word splash there were three - and I entered my parameter after this, should I have put it before?05:26
tomreynlhuf: yes, you need to put it before the three dashes05:31
lhufI will try this05:31
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lhufDamn still not working05:34
tomreynlhuf: can you check whether you have the "(f)TPM" option on the bios / UEFI configuration screens? maybe that's easier05:35
tomreynthe goal would be to disable this device.05:36
tomreynalternatively, if you would like to continue trying with the     pcie_aspm=off    option, please take and upload a screen shot after entering it on the grub menu05:36
lhufI think I tried this earlier but will try again, there is a tpm option in security05:37
tomreyn(and before hitting enter)05:37
tomreynalso, if you can tell the exact Alienware R4 model you have there, maybe we can find a better workaround.05:37
lhufI will make a screenshot now05:38
lhufhttps://laptopmedia.com/laptop-specs/alienware-17-r4-4/05:38
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lhufAnd here is the ss: https://ibb.co/dLkQ8dk05:42
tomreynlhuf: yes this looks fine. have you tried this with the opther menu option, "Install Ubuntu (now)"?05:44
tomreynthe one you're trying to edit there now is the option where ubuntu boots into the live mode05:45
lhufOk I will try that now05:45
tomreynbut you'll still need the parameter there05:45
tomreynalso add "nomodeset"05:45
lhufSo just do a space and add that05:46
tomreynyes05:46
tomreyn... quiet splash pcie_aspm=off nomodeset ---05:46
lhufI have gotten further than ever05:48
tomreynso where di you get to, the installer?05:49
lhufIt seems to be working I am currently selecting install alongside windows05:49
tomreynthis is the latest firmware by the way: https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=rytgt&oscode=wt64a&productcode=alienware-17-laptop05:49
tomreynunfortunately gaming laptops are often problematic.05:50
lhufHopefully this works once installed but I am now having some issues with partitioning my ssd as that is where windows is installed and I dont want to copy over it05:58
tomreynif you do auto partitioning with the "insatall alongside windows" option then the windows partition should get shrinked so there's be enough space to install ubuntu05:59
tomreynif you prefer amnual partitioning and have questions about it, just post another screen06:00
tomreyn…shot06:00
lhufHello I disconnected06:07
tomreynwb06:07
lhufI was just wondering when I select the ssd that also has my windows on does ubuntu automatically partition it or what?06:08
tomreyn<tomreyn> if you do auto partitioning with the "insatall alongside windows" option then the windows partition should get shrinked so there's be enough space to install ubuntu06:10
tomreyn<tomreyn> if you prefer manual partitioning and have questions about it, just post another screen shot06:10
lhufSorry for my lack of knowledge haha I will now06:11
tomreynthat's fine, it's not something you can know without reading the manual, i think06:13
lhufhttps://ibb.co/YWX2X4d this ssd is where I want ubuntu to be with about 30gb06:13
lhufUnless there is a way to use the ssd for the os and my hdd for files etc06:14
tomreynlhuf: hmm i think for custom partitioning you'd actually need to do the partitioning outside of the installer if you want to install alongside windows. but i'm not entirely sure - i don't do windows nor multi-boot (it's just too much fiddling, amongst other)06:17
tomreynmaybe you can use "change" on the partition that is selected and resize it?06:17
lhufOk but if I just select the ssd it will never write over windows right?06:19
tomreynand yes there is a way to use the ssd for the OS and a separate hdd for files06:20
tomreyni assume this system ir running in uefi mode, and windows was installed in uefi mode, too. if so, ubuntu's grub will be written to nvme0n1p1, the "efi" type partition06:21
tomreynthat's independeant of which disk you install the rest of ubuntu to06:22
tomreynwindows should never get overwritten, but when you do anything like partition changes you must ensure you have complete and reliably restorable and current backups06:22
lhufOk well I'm installing so thanks so much for your help... do you think that once its installed it will work without parameters?06:28
tomreynlhuf: hard to tell. you may still need to use these parameters during the first boot from hard disk, maybe will have to keep using the pcie_aspm=off one all time. but i recommend you start with none, see how far you can get, then only add these parameters as needed, and one by one, like you did before.06:30
tomreynand repeat this after installing all the updates that are available (running "sudo apt update" on a temrinal should report that no updates available in the end), and rebooting.06:31
tomreynthat's when you'll have all the Os updates installed (which may contain newer workarounds for the buggy bios)06:32
tomreynthe "nomodeset" parameter should not be needed once you installed the nvidia proprietary drivers, which the installer should already be doing.06:32
tomreyn(unless oyu choose not to)06:32
lhufSeems to be working just fine06:34
lhufHonestly thanks man you have been apart of helping kickstart my journey of web development06:35
lhuf😂😂06:35
tomreyn:) good luck there, enjoy your new system.06:35
martiansoul67i have a remote machine that I've been given access to. I've got the access of only its vscode. I want to download the source code of a repository on my home computer, is there any way I can do so?06:37
lhufOh lol and now its crashed ahaha06:37
lhufAfter enabling livepatch06:37
martiansoul67lhuf livepatch?06:39
tomreynlhuf: post a full system journal after rebooting:  journalctl -b -1 | nc termbin.com 999906:40
tomreynmartiansoul67: what are this remote computer and your home computer running, and how are they related / linked, i.e. how does it matter that the remote one runs something for when you want to download somethjing to your (laocal, i guess) home computer?06:41
tomreynmartiansoul67: when i say "what are [these compuiters] running" i mean their operating systems.06:43
martiansoul67I'm not sure, what's the remote machine running.06:45
martiansoul67I am participating in a sort of workshop, where in Chrome, at port 8080, I can access the VSCode of the remote server.06:46
martiansoul67and that workshop ends in around 12 hours.06:46
martiansoul67So, I want to get all my code.06:46
lhufTermbin.com/7tm606:47
lhufI'm doing the update command now06:47
martiansoul67tomreyn, this is the context.06:47
tomreynmartiansoul67: okay, and which of these systems runs ubuntu?06:54
tomreynlhuf: good, keep the updates coming. i'll have a look at the log now. to get my attention, type "tomreyn" here06:54
martiansoul67tomreyn, my system.06:55
tomreynmartiansoul67: which protocol do you use to access remotely?06:56
martiansoul67tomreyn, and most likely the remote server is an AWS or something like that. I'm connecting over http06:57
tomreynmartiansoul67: so just http, not webdav or something? then what you can do remotely depends on what the web application or web server enables you to access. that's not really something we can help with here.06:58
martiansoul67tomreyn, not familiar with webdav.06:59
lhufTomreyn all updates done and those crashes seemed to just be todo with monitoring hardware because it happened for the livepatch and for sending my PC info for development weird07:00
tomreynlhuf: what was the crash like? did the entire computer freeze, did a single application fail (and print an error message)?07:01
tomreynand how did you recover from it07:02
tomreyn"crash" can mean so many things.07:02
lhufThe whole computer crashed sorry07:02
lhufAnd I had to hold power button to turn off07:03
tomreyn!sysrq07:03
ubottuIn an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing slowly, in succession, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key07:03
tomreyntry this next time07:03
tomreynand before you do this, try this:07:03
tomreyn!tty07:03
ubottuTo get to the TTY terminals 3-6, use the keystroke Ctrl + Alt + F3-F6 respectively. Ctrl-Alt-F2 or Ctrl-Alt-F1 will get you back to your graphical login (Ctrl-Alt-F7 on 16.04). To change TTY resolution, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution07:03
tomreyneither way, this should not be happening, you will need to spend more time on working out how to prevent it.07:04
The_Flyhi, i have an issue, i set X11 to use a separate Screen for my HMD diplay, now when i try to maximise a window it takes up both monitors and doesn't display the application menus and close,minimize,maximise buttons on the top bar/panel... couldn't find any solutions to this with a google07:04
tomreynlhuf: see above. also, reviewing your logs, i see more and more reports on BIOS bugs. :-/ something you can do in this case is to have linux pretend it was windows, which can help since many computers (firmwares in this case) are only really tested (and customized to work) with windows.07:07
lhufOk07:08
tomreynlhuf: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html07:08
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DarkTrickHello, I have a rather general question. I'm not sure if this is the right place.07:19
DarkTrickRegarding the implemenation of hibernation07:20
DarkTrickWhy would a hibernation feature care about ACPI? / Why would hibernation care about hardware?07:21
EriC^^DarkTrick: hibernation involves power stuff, why wouldnt it07:21
DarkTrickCouldn't it be simply implemented as 1) freeze everything 2) "save everything to disk" 3) Shut down computer as always 4) When the computer starts, it simply checks if there is a "RAM-file" 5) if yes, load it into RAM, unfreeze everything and go07:22
EriC^^DarkTrick: what's the problem you're having?07:23
DarkTrickEriC^^, Hibernation seems to work differently well on Win and Ubuntu. From earlier discussions I heard it's a "hardware support thing" or a "ACPI thing"07:24
EriC^^DarkTrick: no worries, you can use the acpi_osi parameter in grub to sort that out usually07:25
DarkTrickI'd like to understand the point where my "easy implementation" (above) does not work anymore07:25
EriC^^DarkTrick: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html07:25
DarkTrickEriC^^, The title already is already "beyond" the point of my question.07:27
EriC^^DarkTrick: alright07:27
DarkTrickEriC^^, Basically I don't understand why hibernating  should be different to a usual shutdown07:27
EriC^^so you plan to rewrite the hibernation feature07:28
DarkTrickEriC^^: Not at this point07:28
DarkTrickMy question is more of a "I'd like to have an idea of what's the actual problem"07:29
DarkTrickinstead of "I want to solve this exact problem on my machine"07:29
tomreynit seems this is outside of ubuntu support, it's more about discussing technical concepts than of a support question. maybe ##linux is a better place, or ##acpi if it exists.07:32
tomreynthis is what ubuntu uses (though earlier versions probably): https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/HEAD/src/sleep/sleep.c07:32
tomreynyou can look for more suitable IRC channels using !alis07:33
tomreynlhuf: looks like someone else suffered from the same system and its bios bugs: https://www.dell.com/community/Alienware/AW17r5-BIOS-Issues/td-p/739129007:34
lhufHopefully Dell sort It07:35
lhufSystem settings isn't working for me even after trying the shell script but hey ho07:35
tomreyn"System settings"? what do you mean?07:36
DarkTricktomreyn, thank you for you pointer!07:38
lhufThe spanner and screwdriver on top right drop down.. preferences?07:38
tomreynlhuf: the settings application is somehow not working as expected. what is not working as expected?07:39
tomreynhow is this related to a shell script?07:39
lhufOh the link you sent about making it think its windows has a shell script that does it for you07:40
tomreynlhuf: yes, it allows you to stage changes to how you boot which are applied on the next boot. did you reboot after this?07:40
lhufYes07:40
tomreynlhuf: can you post another log with this change set?   journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 999907:41
lhufOmg I think it worked07:44
lhufTermbin.com/sqtv07:45
lhufI changed the code to 2017 but before I changed the wrong bit to 2017 I changed the if statement that checks if it has already been changed instead07:45
lhufWebcam and setting are now working which weren't before07:48
tomreynlhuf: i think there were some mistakes during editing the boot parameters. the log you posted has this:     ...ro acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2015" acpi_osi=! acpi_osi= quiet...   while it hsould just have this:    ...ro acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2015" quiet...07:49
tomreynlhuf: "Windows 2017" could only work if the commands given on the article actually reported this as a possible value.07:50
lhufWait but it's working now07:50
lhufOh I looked up what windows 10 is known as on Microsoft site and it said windows 201707:50
tomreyndoes this return "Windows 2017" though? sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i 'windows ' | sort07:52
tomreynthere can be other reasons why "it" is working now after you rebooted. a microcode update was also loaded (though this should not affect the webcam, but i'm not sure what other changes you saw).07:53
lhufOh no it doesn't07:54
lhufSo what should I do now sorry I'm lost again07:54
tomreynyou can use     gedit admin:///etc/default/grub    to edit the configuration file where the acpi_osi parameters are set.07:54
tomreynafter editing, you will need to also run    sudo update-grub    and reboot the system.07:55
tomreynif setting     ...ro acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2015" quiet...    makes "it" worse again, you can try to just set it to     ...ro acpi_osi=! acpi_osi=  quiet...    which is probably what you effectively had by the time you created this latest log file07:56
tomreynlhuf: on both logs you're using the "nouveau" open source graphics driver. this is a limited feature (and lower performance) driver compared to the proprietary "nvidia" graphics driver, which is also available. have you chosen not to install it?08:01
lhufTerminal said  /etc/default/grub: quiet... not found08:07
lhufAnd no I did not choose not to08:07
tomreynlhuf: what is it that you had typed on the terminal when it said this?08:08
lhufSudo update-grub08:09
lhufSorry forgot to ping tomreyn08:17
tomreynlhuf: cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 999908:17
lhufTermbin.com/b7nb08:18
tomreynlhuf: oh, looks like you took what i wrote verbatim08:19
tomreynthose "..." were emant to say "here starts/end this sequence"08:19
lhufOh what should be different soz08:19
tomreyni should be able to tell you in a minute08:20
lhufI removed the ... and it says same thing I only kept them because something underneath has ... after so thought it needed it haha08:21
tomreynlhuf: so run     gedit admin:///etc/default/grub    again and replace this line:     GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=Windows 2015" quiet ...     by (exactly, please double check) this:     GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=Windows 2015\""08:22
tomreynlhuf: once that is done, share it again using     cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999     and run     sudo update-grub     agin08:23
tomreyn*again08:23
lhufTomreyn termbin.com/ve0y08:25
tomreynlhuf: not exact (one extra space) but good enough. :)   only after all of the above is done (sudo update-grub, right), but before you reboot, run     software-properties-gtk --open-tab 4     and enable the nvidia drivers.08:26
* jesopo ubuntu noises08:28
lhufGives me three options two proprietary and one older but proprietary tested I'm guessing I should use that one right tomreyn08:28
tomreynlhuf: you can try those one by one, see which one works best.08:29
tomreynyou'll have to reboot each time, though08:30
tomreyni.e. i'm not sure which one is the best option08:30
tomreynyour graphics card (PCI ID 10de:1c20) is an Nvidia GTX 1060 (Mobile)08:32
tomreynnvidia.com will have some form of documentation on which driver is recommended for this08:32
lhufAll seems to be working well after reboot08:33
tomreynnice, post another log if you like08:36
tomreynjournalctl -b | nc termbin.com 999908:36
tomreynlhuf: ^08:37
lhufTermbin.com/e3zb08:38
tomreynyes this looks almost not entirely bad now08:41
lhufAwesome man thank you :):)08:43
tomreynyou should now have some nvidia-settings (or similar) application which you can use to configure the graphics08:43
tomreynthere are still rather serious problems, but this is probably as good as it gets with this bios08:45
tomreynlhuf: ^ this and: you could try a newer kernel version, there's a chance it has better workarounds. i.e.       sudo apt install linux-generic-hwe-18.04-edge08:47
lhufShould I do that now then?08:48
tomreyni would, but this is your computer. ;)08:48
lhufDone08:50
lhufDoes it require another restart08:50
tomreynyes08:50
tomreynalso note that canonical-livepatch is not properly configured on your system (or wasn't when you created the latest log). You would need to run      canonical-livepatch enable      but it may not actually work with the newer kernel I just suggested to install.08:52
lhufYe said permission denied08:54
lhufIs it even needed tomreyn08:59
tomreynlhuf: you decide on this09:02
tomreyn!livepatch09:02
ubottuCanonical Livepatch is a service offered by Canonical for 64 bit 14.04 and higher installs that modifies the currently running kernel for updates without the need to restart. More information can be found at https://ubottu.com/y/livepatch and https://www.ubuntu.com/server/livepatch09:02
tomreynit is not strictly required, no.09:02
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tomreynlhuf: "permission denied" means the user you ran something as does not have the privileges that are required to run something. (only) if you think the command you were trying to run is safe to run as root, you can run it again, prefixed with "sudo"09:05
tomreyn!sudo09:05
ubottusudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !pkexec (for older releases: !gksu and !kdesudo). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo09:05
tomreynso in this case you'd run     sudo canonical-livepatch enable09:05
lhufNo key provided09:07
DarkTrickA: @pdflatex: Anyone here who knows how to make pdflatex to support UTF-8? (standard installation under ubuntu; that's why I ask here)09:08
DarkTrickA: \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} does not work. Maybe something is missing from the installation?09:09
tomreynlhuf: you'll need to get an api key from canonical to use it (free for personal use). read its docoumentation for more info09:10
Guest_86Hi everyone09:36
tomreynhello Guest_8609:37
mohnishHello everyone! I need help with Ubuntu MATE 19.10. I'm trying to setup bluetooth, but my phone won't detect my pc, and my pc won't detect my phone09:38
mohnishI opened "Bluetooth Adapters" from the menu and set it to "Always visible" and then closed it. But, when I open it again, it's selected to "Hidden"09:39
tomreyndoes     rfkill list    say that something is (hard or soft) blocked?09:40
mohnishI tired that, and it's not blocked09:41
mohnishneither soft nor hard09:41
mohnishAnd, when I press search in "Bluetooth Devices" it gives this error: https://pasteboard.co/INtsyVD.png09:41
tomreynok, then it's going to be bluetooth specific which i have almost no clue of09:42
mohnishoh09:42
mohnishBut, it works in other distro (Linux Mint installed in my other hard drive)09:43
tomreyn!bluetooth09:43
ubottuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup09:43
Guest_86I am having some issues trying to switch my desktop environment and I thought this might be the place to ask. I want to set a script to control the brightness of my monitor and the keyboard backlight but I cannot seem to figure out how to. For brightness I found you can set a value in /sys/class/backlight since xbacklight seems to produce no09:43
Guest_86change, but for keyboard I have no idea what's going on. Works out of the box in gnome but I have no idea how they manage it.09:43
Guest_86running dbus-monitor in termnial shows that they send some events for the brightness control but nothing shows up when I use the combination for keyboard backlight09:44
N0Lif3can the date and time be moved to the right without addons/extensions?11:00
zaccishereHi, I recently updated my 18.04 LTS and after rebooting the touchpad wouldn't work. Any help would be appreciated thanks!11:21
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zaccishereReverted to a previous kernel and now it works again!11:41
EmmaTi am trying to install an old specific versoin of a package12:05
EmmaTcommand that was run was: sudo ap-get install tvheadend in 2018.01.01 ... i would like the version of around that time12:05
EmmaTi am now getting the latest version which is not desired12:06
EmmaThttp://ppa.launchpad.net/mamarley/tvheadend-git-stable/ubuntu/dists/xenial/12:06
EmmaTi am not sure how to find the old version12:06
EmmaTseems to only be on there\12:06
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EriC^^EmmaT: maybe you can use the apt logs to get which was installed12:26
EriC^^/var/log/apt/history*12:26
matiHi, I'm looking for a program that can periodically update the command output in the terminal. For example, I want to run a commands "sensors" and want the output to be updated every 10 seconds. How can I do that?12:51
cipher45Something like 'watch' maybe? https://linuxize.com/post/linux-watch-command/12:52
cipher45mati^^12:53
maticipher45: that's exactly what i've been looking for, cheers!12:54
SeveasEmmaT: as long as you have a repository that has the older version, you can install it with apt-get install tvheadend=your_version_here13:01
adrian_1908Hello. I installed a deb package (fontconfig-2.13) due to issues with 2.12. This now throws an error when doing `apt install <any_package>`, so very hampering. What's the best way to revert to 2.12?13:09
adrian_1908Fixed: I simply downloaded the deb from https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/amd64/fontconfig/download and `sudo dpkg -i fontconfig-2.12…`13:13
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acesistvHello everyone13:39
trupsalmshow can i run a script after scl enable python27 bash since it invokes a new cmdline trm?13:51
cyber37Hi,14:01
cyber37I have a problem, i don't know if it's after an update or what. When i want to open a RTSP stream in vlc it fails, i don't have any details on the console (even with -vv arg). it just says "check the log for more details" but i don't know witch logs...14:02
cyber37I can open my rtsp stream with mplayer but not with VLC, and i need it working with VLC because i also use the library "libVLC" for another software (that i made) to watch my cctv cameras. So as libVLC has a problem, my software cant watch the cameras and VLC can't too.14:03
cyber37It's not stream problem because with mplayer it works. Did someone know where VLC logs are ? And if 3.0.8 is recent in ubuntu deps ?14:04
cyber37How to know when a packet has been upgraded in ubuntu deps ?14:05
BundestrojanerHello. I'm trying to scan with a quite old Brother DCP-8020 on Kubuntu 1804 LTS and get strange results:14:07
Bundestrojanerlsusb says: Bus 001 Device 004: ID 04f9:0140 Brother Industries, Ltd DCP-802014:07
Bundestrojanersane-find-scanner says: found USB scanner (vendor=0x04f9, product=0x0140) at libusb:001:00414:07
Bundestrojanersudo scanimage -L says: No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different,  ...14:07
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ducasseBundestrojaner: why are you running scanimage with sudo?14:17
Bundestrojanerducasse: to exclude permission problems during testing14:18
ducasseadd your user to the scanner group, and there shouldn't be any14:19
BluesKajHi folks14:20
Bundestrojanerducasse: already done. i've tried it without sudo at first.14:21
Bundestrojanerrebooting, brb14:24
ducasseBundestrojaner: if you don't get any response here, try #sane14:29
Bundestrojanerducasse: thx, i've asked there parallel. it seems they are all afk :(14:29
ducasseit's a small channel, might be quiet on weekends14:30
ru^2hello14:32
Bundestrojanerone aditional thing: On the old pc with kubuntu1604, the scanner perfectly worked. When i tried it on this new machine with kubuntu1804 ~2 years ago, the scanner was recogniced but scanning delifered an "invalid argument"-error - which is a known problem with old brother scanners and xhci (usb3, this machine has usb3 only) so i could not solve it.14:32
BundestrojanerNow, the scanner is not even recognized...14:32
ru^2any body know how to remove the on screen keyboard at lock screen ?? i have to use the extension block-caribou to prevent this on screen keyboard to show up when clicking on window with my touchscreen. in the universal acess setting the onscreen is off, org.gnome.desktop.screensaver embedded-keyboard-enabled is set on false... I don't know what to do with that ugly keyboard :\14:52
Skyriderru^2: That includes the onboard preferences show onboard when unlocking the screen?14:55
H2Qhello, how can I make thumbnails resolve enough to be viewable?14:56
H2QI tried with dconf-editor but couldn''t make them larger14:56
ru^2i dont have onboard installed, i tried to install it and change this setting, did nothing14:56
ru^2Skyrider:14:57
tomreynhmm, how can the virtual keybooard show if you don't have it installed?    sudo apt purge --autoremove onboard onboard-common onboard-data14:58
ru^2ok onboard was apparently installed15:01
ru^2but the keyboard continue to show up on lock screen15:01
ru^2i will try a reboot..15:02
ru^2i reboot15:02
ru^2did nothing, the onscreen is always here, :\15:05
ru^2tomreyn:15:07
SkyriderDid you do what Tomr suggested?15:10
ru^2yes onboard was removed but i think the keyboard who is showing up is not onboard15:11
tomreynru^2: hmm, okay, sorry then. i wasn't aware there's another. are you using gdm3 though?15:11
ru^2yes im using ubuntu 19.1015:13
ru^2ok i found a workaround installing onboard integration extension and reinstalling onboard ^^15:15
ru^2tomreyn:15:15
tomreynglad you found a solution which works for you!15:16
ru^2tomreyn: now i deinstall onboard and onboard integration extension, and the onscreen keyboard disapeared strange thanks15:20
akemhpHey.15:23
akemhpIs Thunar file manager stable? Cause i like Nemo a lot but it's very unstable, often crashing for no reason...15:24
akemhp(I don't like Nautilus they removed the address bar, we can't directly see the number of files etc)15:25
SkyriderWouldn't it be easier to try it? ^^15:28
OerHekswhy would nemo be unstable?15:29
akemhpI installed it, i'll use it and see OFC.15:29
akemhpOerHeks, It's unstable on my 18.04s, on 2 computers.15:29
akemhpCrash for no apparent reason while using it, or copying stuff.15:30
tomreynfile a bug about it if there's none, yet, that's how you get a chance to see it solved.15:34
tomreynctrl-l still gets you the location bar on gnome files (the artist formerly known as nautilus)15:36
akemhptomreyn, Yeah, i know there are ways, i just don't like their choices.15:40
CarlenWhiteNoticing that my laptop is doing a lot of AP disconnects and reconnects.15:56
lotuspsychjecan you give us some more details CarlenWhite15:56
CarlenWhiteI'm watching it for a moment so I can understand what's happening, but it looks like it cannot make up it's mind on which AP it wants to use. Both APs are named the same.15:57
CarlenWhiteI'm using dmesg output by the way.15:58
CarlenWhiteGot a chunk. Scrubbing and pasting.15:58
CarlenWhitehttps://pastebin.com/bmjLRuif16:00
CarlenWhiteSo it seems like it's connecting to B, then looses connection, then returns back to A.16:01
CarlenWhiteBut it's doing this frequently.16:01
lotuspsychjeCarlenWhite: ubuntu version, kernel version and network card chipset would also be handy16:02
CarlenWhiteUbuntu 19.10, 5.0.21-050021-generic, Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8822BE 802.11a/b/g/n/ac16:03
CarlenWhitePurposefully back a few kernel versions due to issues.16:04
lotuspsychjeCarlenWhite: meaning you encounter the same AP issues with current 19.10 kernel?16:05
CarlenWhiteIssues irrelevant to WiFi.16:05
lotuspsychjeCarlenWhite: so your wifi works great on  5.3.0.24.28 ?16:06
CarlenWhiteI can try but it requires me investigating another issue to fix some AMDGPU weirdness.16:07
lotuspsychjeCarlenWhite: the main purpose is to make your system work on the current kernel right, going back to older kernels should be for testing purposes16:08
lotuspsychjeCarlenWhite: we would also apreciate to mention 'details' like that in your original questions in the fuure16:10
lotuspsychje*future16:10
CarlenWhiteSorry. Chronic tiredness doesn't help me. But yeah I'm looking at the comment to my bug report regarding AMDGPU and they suggest updating Mesa. I searched my installed packages and it seems like the packages related to it are selected and up-to-date. Unless they want me to grab a dev-package and cross my fingers that fixes the problem and I can finally use the latest kernel.16:12
CarlenWhiteMesa is mesa-vulkan-drivers, correct?16:13
lotuspsychjeCarlenWhite: do you recall your bug ID about amdgpu? perhaps volunteers can have a look for you whats going on16:13
CarlenWhiteYeah. https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/issues/991#note_36724416:15
CarlenWhiteAlso might've helped me to notice that setting AMD_DEBUG would be a good idea too.16:15
CarlenWhiteErm. That's the note on the issue, but still.16:15
lotuspsychjetnx for bug #184810816:16
ubottubug 1848108 in linux (Ubuntu) "[amdgpu] Screen Glitching & Kernel Panic" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184810816:16
lotuspsychjeCarlenWhite: did you compare this with an LTS version of ubuntu?16:17
lotuspsychjeCarlenWhite: you might also look into your bios version, see if there are updates BIOS R0UET68W (1.48 ) 12/07/201816:19
CarlenWhiteI felt like I've updated when I was running Windows a short while ago before I contained it entirely inside a VM.16:20
CarlenWhiteAnd I haven't tried testing against the LTS.16:20
CarlenWhiteWhat is AMD_DEBUG=nodcc supposed to do broadly?16:25
CarlenWhiteGoogle yields nothing.16:25
CarlenWhiteOther than 'Use this and it works'16:25
lotuspsychjenot sure yet myself, but i do find alot of threads about ERROR* ring gfx timeout, but soft recovered16:26
CarlenWhiteYeah I'm starting to notice that myself. Good knowing you're not the only soul screaming in the void.16:26
CarlenWhiteBut yeah I'm adding the variable, will soon install the bleeding edge kernel, and reboot to test.16:27
CarlenWhite /etc/environment is per-line, correct?16:27
lotuspsychjeCarlenWhite: are the freezes in relation with your machine going to suspend?16:27
CarlenWhiteIt isn't. During use.16:27
lotuspsychjekk tnx16:27
lotuspsychjeCarlenWhite: i recall a bug similar to this one, also on a ryzen machine, where the user confirmed no freezes on kernel 4.1916:34
lotuspsychjeCarlenWhite: but that was more a ryzen issue then it was amdgpu16:34
lotuspsychjeCarlenWhite: so i think in your case, its best to start testing around, and try the steps the devs advice to test also, and keep your bug(s) updated with what you tested16:36
CarlenWhiteWaiting for mainline to download, but once it finishes I'll try without the debug, then with, then also report about the WiFi.16:38
CarlenWhiteAssuming it downloads within this age.16:39
lotuspsychjeCarlenWhite: but didnt you say your wifi issue was on 5. -21 ?16:39
CarlenWhiteIt is.16:39
lotuspsychjei dont think its useful for the devs you file bugs on older kernels16:39
CarlenWhiteWhich is the version I'm using right now.16:39
lotuspsychjeknowing its a realtek..16:40
lotuspsychjeCarlenWhite: comment 19, says last kernel working 4.20 https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20195716:41
ubottubugzilla.kernel.org bug 201957 in Video(DRI - non Intel) "amdgpu: ring gfx timeout" [Blocking,New]16:41
CarlenWhiteSomething something lowball weedjoke.16:42
lotuspsychjesorry?16:42
CarlenWhiteTerrible joke. Sorry.16:42
CarlenWhiteRestarting now. Be back soon-ish.16:43
FevixLaptop keeps going into airplane mode after closing and reopening the lid. It's not getting stuck in it like others who have this issue, it's just an annoyance having to turn airplane mode off every time I wake the laptop16:44
CarlenWhiteBack. Now to wait.16:47
lotuspsychjeCarlenWhite: you rebooted into current kernel i presume?16:47
CarlenWhite5.5.0-994-generic16:48
lotuspsychjeah16:48
CarlenWhiteAnd no constant AP disconnect and reconnects yet either so that's a bonus.16:49
CarlenWhiteBut I feel like it's going to be one of those things that you'll bumble along fine for an hour then it's downhill from there.16:50
CarlenWhiteTime will tell.16:50
FevixIs there some setting I'm missing? I'd like this laptop to not turn on Airplane Mode when I close the lid and reopen it. It's not getting stuck like that, but it's a bit annoying having to turn airplane mode off every time I wake it from sleep16:55
CarlenWhiteOh there's those tasty timeouts. Debug variable here we go.16:56
CarlenWhiteNope. Still timeouts with the debug variable.17:06
lotuspsychjeCarlenWhite: maybe try a kernel 4.19 as a test too17:08
ioriaFevix, might be a ACPI  or a module issue . What 'sduo rfkill list all' returns    on resume ?17:08
ioria*sudo17:08
CarlenWhiteSorry not for WiFi. This is AMDGPU.17:09
CarlenWhiteMy fault.17:09
OerHeks 5.5.0-994-generic ?17:11
OerHeksnot an ubuntu kernel, what linux version are you using?17:12
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: CarlenWhite says he suffers bug #184810817:12
ubottubug 1848108 in linux (Ubuntu) "[amdgpu] Screen Glitching & Kernel Panic" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184810817:13
Fevixioria: WLAN is soft blocked17:14
OerHekslotuspsychje, but that is still not an ubuntukernel, not even in mainline17:16
sondrehello, I'm installing ubuntu to recover a messy system *After broken installation of third party software*17:17
lotuspsychjeCarlenWhite: are you testing kernels from outside the !mainline kernels to test your bug?17:17
OerHekshow would amdgpu drivers work with unknown kernels, i ask17:17
sondreI was expecting the installation to recognize the precedent installation but instead it didn-t work.. so now it is asking to erase the disk17:18
CarlenWhiteI'm fetching from https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/drm-tip/current/17:18
ioriaFevix, sudo rfkill unblock all17:18
sondreis there something I can do to conitnue the installation over exitsting data ?17:18
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: ah yeah drm-tip is what the devs ask to play/test with17:18
sondreI had a 19.10 installation with a full encrypteed disk17:18
clarkkI'm trying to work out why nordvpn doesn't show properly in update-manager. See https://www.dropbox.com/s/st3cympxt4dnjv2/Selection_938.png?dl=0 .  As you can see, it shows the description rather than the name of the package.  This is the nordvpn repo https://repo.nordvpn.com/deb/nordvpn/debian  and this is the 'Visual Studio Code' repo, which works as expected...   http://packages.microsoft.com/repos/vscode17:19
clarkkCan anyone explain how nordvpn can fix this?  I don't work for nordvpn - I'm just a customer of theirs that finds this annoying and want them to fix it17:20
Fevixioria: No output, will that prevent it from going into AIrplane Mode on wake?17:21
ioriaFevix, nope, i wanted to know if running that cmd it would have deactivatedd flight mode17:22
FevixOh. Probably? I manually turned it off so I could reconnect17:22
ioriaFevix, i mean : sleep -> resume > sudo rfkill unblock all  -> check flight mode if on or off17:23
FevixKay17:23
CarlenWhitesondre, I'm taking a blind guess while I have to run out the door but I think you have to decrypt the LVM. There should be a guide somewhere that'll explain in depth but once you do that, the installer should see these partitions and let you work with them.17:24
OerHeksclarkk, ask NordVPN? we have no control how they build and describe their packages17:24
OerHeksand it seems to work, no?17:24
CarlenWhiteIt's usually a command against the block device which'll prompt for decryption pass, then expose the devices.17:25
CarlenWhitePartitions, rather17:25
FevixInterestingly, that time it didn't go into airplane mode, it just turned off wifi. But that command did turn wifi back on.17:25
ioriaFevix, in this case, we can try a script in /lib/systemd/system-sleep/17:26
FevixFirst time, be gentle and I'm sorry in advance if I ask too many questions.17:28
ioriaFevix, but would be better to check the lsmod list (before and after sleep)17:29
ioriaFevix, lsmod | nc termbin.com 999917:30
Fevixhttps://termbin.com/8b1e Before17:30
ioriaFevix, ok, now, if you can run the same command right aftre resume17:33
FevixIssue that I should have realized: Can't upload the file to the site without internet, and I'm assuming whatever it is you're looking for will only be caught while the wifi has been turned off17:33
Fevixnc: getaddrinfo for host "termbin.com" port 9999: Name or service not known17:34
ioriaFevix, don't worry; run the command off line; get on line, and paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com17:34
Fevixok17:34
FevixOkay, connected through my phone, should have probably done this before. ON wake, my CPU usage is stuck at 100. Mouse control responds, but no application control.17:39
FevixNot always, just this time17:40
FevixI got the command ran, I'm just trying to get it to respond enough to load the page so I can paste it17:41
ioriaFevix, what machine is that ?17:41
Fevix$80 laptop17:41
ioriaFevix, that's my laptop, i asked about yours17:42
Fevix$80 laptop.17:42
ioriai see17:42
FevixIt's some HP thing, uh17:42
ioriaFevix, reboot that or REISUB17:42
FevixCan't reboot yet, still need to get you the paste thing17:42
ioriaok17:43
Fevixhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tJ47Q36dxY17:44
openbsdtai123Does Ubuntu for Raspberry PI RPI3b model b has Sauerbraten Cube2 ?17:45
FevixHuh, closed FIrefox and issue resolved, no more 100% CPU.....17:46
ioriaFevix, i don't see a  difference ; how much ram ?17:46
OerHeksopenbsdtai123, i gave you an url, howto build it yourself?17:46
Fevix4B17:46
Fevixgb*17:46
OerHeksubuntu did not package it in arm17:46
ioriaFevix, 4 G is ok; what't the cpu ?17:47
Fevixhang on, uh17:47
ioriaFevix, lscpu17:47
openbsdtai123build build... I am novice in Linux17:47
FevixHP Model 14-bw012nr17:48
FevixThat's the laptop17:48
OerHeks!build17:48
ubottuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)17:48
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openbsdtai123I can learn fast, but it looks to me complex to built sauerbraten from source. It is a big game17:48
FevixAMD E2-9000e Radeon R2, 4 compute cores 2C+2g17:49
ioriaFevix, it's a dual core, it's ok17:49
FevixUsually it's fine running Ubuntu, but every now and then for no aparrent reason it'll spike to 100% but that's not why I'm here. I'll try to troubleshoot that on my own, for now I'd like to get this "Airplane mode on sleep" thing resolved17:50
ioriaFevix, ok, lspci -nnk | nc termbin.ciom 999917:51
ioriaFevix, ok, lspci -nnk | nc termbin.com 999917:51
Fevixhttps://termbin.com/al38p17:52
ioriaFevix, cat /proc/cmdline   (you can paste here)17:53
FevixCompBOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.0.0-37-generic root=UUID=d7a1cba7-f7b4-4502-b7a8-1af1966e69dc ro quiet splash vt.handoff=117:55
Fevix^ That's me17:55
ioriaFevix,  cd /lib/systemd/system-sleep/17:56
FevixCompdone17:56
ioriaFevix,  sudo nano my_script17:57
FevixDone17:57
ioriaFevix,  and pastere there this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FSC8T4xFJG/17:57
FevixDOne17:58
ioriaFevix,  sudo chmod +x nano my_script17:58
FevixDo I need to Write Out? Or....?17:59
ioriaFevix,  you need to save : ctrl+o; ctrl+x17:59
bindiaccidental 'nano' in that chmod command17:59
ioriabindi, right17:59
ioriaFevix,  sudo chmod +x my_script18:00
FevixDone, no output18:00
ioriaFevix,  cat my_script18:00
FevixShows the lines you sent me18:00
ioriaFevix,  ok, reboot; go to sleep, and resume18:01
FevixSurvey says.....18:02
FevixWifi came back on just fine18:02
FevixThanks!18:02
ioriaok18:04
clarkkOerHeks, I think you misunderstood what I asked.  I want to know the correct format for the repo, so I can relay the info to nordvpn, as they have been unable to do it so far18:15
clarkkI'm trying to work out why nordvpn doesn't show properly in update-manager. See https://www.dropbox.com/s/st3cympxt4dnjv2/Selection_938.png?dl=0 .  As you can see, it shows the description rather than the name of the package.  This is the nordvpn repo https://repo.nordvpn.com/deb/nordvpn/debian  and this is the 'Visual Studio Code' repo, which works as expected...   http://packages.microsoft.com/repos/vscode18:15
clarkkCan anyone explain how nordvpn can fix this?  I don't work for nordvpn - I'm just a customer of theirs that finds this annoying and want them to fix it18:15
clarkkMicrosoft works fine, and nordvpn's does not.  I want to understand why. Please see the dropbox image18:16
OerHeksclarkk, ask them to change description?18:16
OerHeksit seems to work.18:16
pragmaticenigmaclarkk, you have to contact NordVPN. There is nothing the volunteers here would be able to really help with. That is all setup by the PPA maintainer.18:17
OerHekswe have no control how they build and describe their packages18:17
clarkkpragmaticenigma, I understand that you have no control.  I want to know the people with control over the repo can fix it, as they don't seem to know18:17
clarkkOerHeks, I thought it was the description field too, but Microsoft aren't using that for the package name18:18
pragmaticenigmaclarkk, That is their problem. It isn't your job to teach them. You can let them know, and when they feel it is important enough, they'll do their own research on how to fix it.18:18
clarkkpragmaticenigma, I'd like to know too. Is that so bad?18:19
OerHekswanting to know is certainly not bad, but *we* have no answer18:19
clarkkOerHeks, ok, better to say that, that imply that you're unwilling to help, so it doesn't spoil the atmosphere18:20
clarkk*than18:20
pragmaticenigmaclarkk, it isn't that we're unwilling... the purpose of this channel is to support Ubuntu, and only the software repositories that are officially offered by Canonical and Ubuntu. Support for other PPA providers is not available here.18:22
enriooooooohi19:02
enriooooooohow to enable microphone?19:02
GoodTimesImmorthello room19:29
squarecircleGoodTimesImmort: hello human19:30
The_Flyhi, i have an issue, i set X11 to use a separate Screen for my HMD diplay, now when i try to maximise a window it takes up both monitors and doesn't display the application menus and close,minimize,maximise buttons on the top bar/panel... couldn't find any solutions to this with a google19:41
funhouseHello, I am trying to get something like upstart running on 18.04.3, is there anything that I can do so that my service will be respawned if it goes down?20:09
OerHekschanging back from systemd to upstart?20:15
seerefunhouse: add a systemd service unit for your service with a Restart= statement. See man 5 systemd.service20:16
funhouseseere thank you20:21
funhouseseere, so I guess basically the .service file goes in /lib/systemd/system ?20:31
funhouseI want to respawn redis, so I guess I would just add a line to redis-server.service?20:32
ioriafunhouse, try Restart=on-failure or Restart=always20:35
funhouseioria thank you much appreciated20:37
ioriaok20:37
funhouseioria both are the same?20:38
ioriafunhouse, nope20:38
seerefunhouse: AFAIR /lib/systemd is for package provided files which can be overwritten during update. /etc/systemd/service takes precendense20:38
LuckyManHi, is it peaceful to install jdk 13 from .deb Oracle site?20:51
OerHeksLuckyMan, you can. We are just not allowed to make a proper ppa for it, so you must check updates yourself.20:52
LuckyManOerHeks, ok, I'll try it. It's needed for kotlin, right?20:53
OerHekssudo snap install — classic kotlin >> https://snapcraft.io/kotlin20:54
OerHeksthen you would get updates, no clue it needs oracle blob nr 1320:55
funhouseseere thank you again much appreciated20:57
The_Flyanyone able to help with the issue im having, windows maximise over both screens now that i added an extra screen for my HMD20:58
OerHeksThe_Fly, systemsettings > devices > displays, look around for the 'jopin displays' option21:00
OerHeksor join21:01
sparrthe software updater Distribution Upgrade tool is offering to let me upgrade from 18.04 to 19.04, why isn't it offering 19.10?21:14
OerHeksoh, it does not skip 19.04, there is an ugly hack to do so..21:17
OerHekshttps://www.linuxbabe.com/ubuntu/upgrade-ubuntu-18-04-to-ubuntu-19-10-from-command-line21:17
OerHeksbut not really advised,21:17
The_FlyOerHeks: thanks, I'll take a look21:27
The_Flyhm, i do not see that option21:29
The_Flystill running 16.0421:30
GoodTimesImmorthello room21:43
uldicsHi! Anyone knows how to eliminate excessive logging from Chrome into dmesg, kern.log and syslog? Every time I do something in Chrome, new lines add up. When clicking, when reloading page, when hovering over a link. Looks like: [ 1292.698064] audit: type=1326 audit(1577655917.820:390): auid=4294967295 uid=1000 gid=1000 ses=4294967295 pid=2469 comm="chrome" exe="/snap/chromium/971/usr/lib/chromium-browser/chrome" sig=0 arch=c000003e syscal21:46
uldicsl=203 compat=0 ip=0x7fdd12864b8f code=0x5000021:46
GoodTimesImmortIs there a permanent solution to the WiFi not detecting networks after going idle besides rebooting the computer? I tried to restart the wifi manager but it still can't detect networks. Asus laptop with Ubuntu 19.1021:53
jeremy31GoodTimesImmort: Do results for iwconfig show power management on at any time?21:57
jeremy31GoodTimesImmort: what results from terminal for> cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf | grep wifi21:59
GoodTimesImmort"jeremy31" I'm pretty new to Ubuntu so you might have to explain it like I'm 5.22:01
jeremy31GoodTimesImmort: open terminal window and copy/paste the commands into terminal window22:01
jeremy31GoodTimesImmort: ctrl + alt + t should open a terminal window22:02
GoodTimesImmortI got a "no such file" error when I copy pasted into terminal22:02
jeremy31GoodTimesImmort: for>   cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf | grep wifi22:03
paracusiahello, I have two samsung ssd pro attached to an pci-e sata controller using sata_sil24 module with kernel 5.4.0. when writing 4GB to the disks via mdadm/dmcrypt the whole system freezes and responds after around 30 seconds when the write is over.. no errors or anything in syslog or "dmesg" - how to debug this kind of phenomena?22:04
GoodTimesImmortI received a syntax error near unexpected token '>22:07
EriC^^GoodTimesImmort: press ctrl+c22:09
EriC^^type "grep wifi /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf"22:09
jeremy31GoodTimesImmort: don't include the > with the command22:09
Orcs53Hi guys! I need help with something! I wanted to automate decryption at boot time on my system, and I followed a guide like similar to this https://dradisframework.com/support/guides/customization/auto-unlock-luks-encrypted-drive.html. I believe I incorrectly followed one of the instructions and when rebooting I got an error message like cryptsetup22:10
Orcs53going to sleep for 60 seconds. I found this was a security mechanism to stop brute force attacks, and I then realised I had made a mistake in the /etc/crypttab file. I attempted to rectify this issues by booting live ubuntu and fixing the file and re-updating the initramfs. I was able todo this, but, now when I boot I get a "PKCS#7 signature not22:10
Orcs53signed with a trusted key" error shortly after GRUB. I am not sure how to proceed. Can anyone offer me advice on howto properly update the initramfs from a live CD?22:10
jeremy31Orcs53: sounds like trying to use the shimx efi file after deleting the Secure Boot keys22:12
Orcs53I actually think Secure Boot is disabled on my system.22:12
Orcs53I remember having issues with it due to an old graphics card with unsigned firmware, and I had to disable it.22:13
jeremy31orcs post URL from terminal for>   efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 999922:13
Orcs53I'll have to reboot into Ubuntu Live, give me a minute.22:13
GoodTimesImmortThis is what I copied and pasted "NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf | grep wifi22:15
GoodTimesImmortNo such file or directory22:15
Orcs53jeremy31, I just checked the UFEI BIOS when I restarted, and FYI Secure Boot is definitely disabled.22:16
wonderworldOrcs53: why did you want to do this? wouldn't it be more simple to create an unencrypted volume and move the data there?22:16
jeremy31GoodTimesImmort: use "cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf | grep wifi"22:18
Orcs53wonderworld, I am actually happy with the encrypted volume, this was supposed to be a temporary measure.22:18
wonderworldOrcs53: all right, i see22:19
__MilenchoGuys, i have a problem with deleting files(GUI) from explorer/desktop doesn't matter -> it's constantly crashing22:20
EriC^^__Milencho: you could try launching the files gui from a terminal to see any hints22:24
wonderworldOrcs53: are you using the nvidia driver on your machine. google finds many threads on problems with the signing of the nvida driver when searching for your error message.22:25
__MilenchoEriC^^,  : nautilus --browser /home/milencho/Downloads/22:26
__MilenchoFailed to register: Timeout was reached22:26
Orcs53So... I get further when I select the Recovery entry in GRUB, not PCKS#7 error. But, I run into something new, the system complains it can't mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root.22:26
Orcs53@wonderworld, I have seen what you are referring to. Yes I have NVIDIA drivers installed. I actually think running in recovery mode is skipping this problem because it likely opts not to use them.22:27
__MilenchoEriC^^, the whole system(gnome) is not working as expected, also i cannot logout22:28
__MilenchoEriC^^, i've rebooted PC and problem has gone22:33
uldicsRef. my (23:46:03) uldics: Hi! Anyone knows how to eliminate excessive logging from Chrome into dmesg, kern.log and syslog? Every time I do something in Chrome, new lines add up. When clicking, when reloading page, when hovering over a link. Looks like: [ 1292.698064] audit: type=1326 audit(1577655917.820:390): auid=4294967295 uid=1000 gid=1000 ses=4294967295 pid=2469 comm="chrome" exe="/snap/chromium/971/usr/lib/chromium-browser/chrome"22:35
uldics sig=0 arch=c000003e syscall=203 compat=0 ip=0x7fdd12864b8f code=0x5000022:35
uldicsI have found out so far it is something to do with reserving a single processor core for Chromium, that fails or something. As soon as I deactivate hardware acceleration setting in Chromium, the excessive logging stops. So this is either a bug in 1. Snap, 2. Chromium, 3. Kernel. In that order of probability. But I am not an expert in kernel logging.22:35
OerHeksuldics, easy test: install the apt version of chromium, should be up2date too..22:41
GoodTimesImmort"Jeremy31" I copied and pasted and now the shell is just sitting there with a cursor and nothing else22:41
OerHeksyou found out the flood is about hw acceleration22:41
EriC^^__Milencho: great ;)22:42
jeremy31GoodTimesImmort: use ctrl +c22:42
__MilenchoEriC^^, not great but not terrible;]22:42
EriC^^:D22:42
GoodTimesImmortI did22:42
jeremy31GoodTimesImmort: see https://askubuntu.com/a/910186/300665 and run the commands below Some USB devices perform poorly when power management is enabled for wifi, it can be disabled by22:43
uldicsOerHeks, I have the Chromium from official repositories. The new Snap one. Is it possible to get the old one, without Snap back, is that you refer to?22:43
OerHeksyes22:44
OerHeks!info chromium-browser22:44
ubottuchromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Transitional package - chromium-browser -> chromium snap. In component universe, is optional. Version 77.0.3865.120-0ubuntu1.19.10.1 (eoan), package size 47 kB, installed size 159 kB22:44
OerHeksin bionic it is 7922:45
OerHeks.. seems like after 18.04 LTS it is snap only.. https://launchpad.net/chromium-browser/+packages22:45
OerHeksbeta Focal gives 79 too..22:46
GoodTimesImmortJeremy31: This is an internal wifi, but it seems like it might work. I'll give it a try, but in case it doesn't, I can just reverse right?22:46
jeremy31GoodTimesImmort: that command will keep Network Manager from enabling wifi power management, it does help for internal wifi22:47
uldicsOerHeks, so it is not possible? Well, time to migrate to next browser again ...22:48
OerHeksyou did not tell what ubuntu version you are on..22:51
uldics19.1022:51
OerHeksthen no, apt does not bring the latest one, 7922:52
GoodTimesImmortjeremy31: Is that why I'm having a hard time finding a solution for internal wifi?22:53
jeremy31GoodTimesImmort: it could be, also see https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2354328&p=13614520&#post1361452022:54
dragonkeyperhello all, can some one point me in the direction of a guide for troubleshooting random crashes?23:01
sixwheeledbeasthttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash23:02
GoodTimesImmortjeremy31: This might be a little closer to my issue. Going to mess around a bit and see what I learn, figure out. Thank you for your help so far23:03
dragonkeyperthx23:17
Orcs53wonderworld, jeremy31, I have fixed the issue. The first part of the problem required booting into Ubuntu Live and fixing /etc/crypttab, and updating the initramfs (described well here https://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/posts/recovering-from-unbootable-ubuntu-encrypted-lvm-root-partition/). Then the NVIDIA drivers caused the PCKS#7 error, and I had to23:42
Orcs53boot into a recovery console and purge them.23:42
Orcs53I have gotten back into the usual desktop environment, and I am now trying to reinstall the NVIDIA drivers.23:43
Orcs53I note that the boot time has SIGNIFICANTLY increased, it seems the process hangs right after cryptsetup comeplete, I'm not sure whats causing this yet.23:44
Orcs53Ok, I just reinstalled the NVIDIA drivers and rebooted, back in the desktop environment, and NVIDIA drivers are working again.23:52
Orcs53I have to stress the significant increase in boot time, 30 seconds up to a few mins give or take. I'm what exactly is causing this, but the auto decrypt is working..23:54

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