[00:00] FaTaL_G: if your unique use case is NOT dependent on Network Manager, seeing a fail or error related to Network Manager is low/no priority [00:01] FaTaL_G: so in short..you've got yourself worked up over nothing [00:06] hi. i am trying to setup ipsec tunel but getting error as http://paste.debian.net/1122997/ [00:06] tatertots: is there a simple way to force it to not create those services? I'm not worked up, but when I perform ubuntu updates and overall check in on the box, I look for errors/faults. Thus, this is a distraction I'd prefer to remove. [00:07] no matching CHILD_SA config found ... any idea what issue it could be? [00:08] out of sight out of mind -- not waste future brain cells on errors that are of no value. Its a sensible goal I'll eventually achieve [00:10] FaTaL_G: there may be some way to remove NetworkManager service from lingering after NetworkManager itself has been purged...but the juice probably isn't worth the squeeze, path of least resistance is to ignore it [00:11] FaTaL_G: the same way a tiger or lion that has just finished eating a big meal might ignore a small easy to catch prey [00:11] the juice isn't worth the squeeze [00:13] FaTaL_G: our ot curiosity you installed ubuntu desktop or ubuntu server edition? [00:14] FaTaL_G: server stock has no network manager [00:15] lol [00:15] FaTaL_G: so i'll guess you installed desktop ubuntu and due to some action(s) you took subsequently network managere was uninstalled [00:15] indeed [00:15] that's what i figured [00:15] Yea, I figured when the time comes, Im going to install server [00:16] no point in changing something that is working as intended [00:16] thats probably worth more squeeze. Im desiring 19 more so because supposedly it will properly support brcfmmac4366c, but in the meantime, what I have works and I'm still learning [00:18] hi, is anyone aware with issues with opencl and multiple cards? I installed with opencl=legacy,pal but only one or the other is available? (pal works with vega legacy works with rx580). Is it known that you can't use both? [00:21] joules: yes [00:22] tatertots: thanks! [00:28] just tried the Ubuntu 19.xx ISO, Ubuntu Disk creator'd it and mkusb'd it, tried all USB ports. Gonna try a new USB I bought [00:29] (didnt work) [00:30] tatertots: is there any links to that infomation that I can read? I get conflicting answers, that it should work. [00:36] joules: i'll see if i can find some links..in mean time observe the output of xrandr command...like OpenGL ...even if a system has 2x i.e intel graphics and a Nvidia/AMD card 2x GPU's there will only be ONE 1x OpenGL "renderer". [00:37] joules: OpenCL will have a "renderer" [00:37] tatertots: I couldn't find much at all, except this one post https://devtalk.blender.org/t/unable-to-have-two-gpus-rx-5700-xt-rx-580-recognized-by-blender-simultaneously/10278/4 [00:38] joules: i'll try to find some link for you but guys that have been around this stuff for some time know it's just the way it is [00:38] it is what it is [00:39] problem is Jeroen is the AMD dev for blender. [00:39] They are what we thought they were [00:39] lol [00:39] trust me i want you to be right tatertots then I'll sell this RX580 [00:40] joules: oops i didn't mean xrandr... [00:40] this is opencl dude [00:40] i don't muck about just got 18.04 and hwe and amdgpu-pro drivers. sticking with AMDs "requirements" :/ [00:41] joules: i meant to type glxinfo|grep nGL [00:41] joules: that's where you'll see ONE 1x renderer even in a multi GPU system [00:41] clinfo sees both but mesas opencl implementation is incomplete. [00:41] nah I have both man. [00:42] this is openCL not GL :D [00:42] joules: run> clinfo|nc termbin.com 9999 [00:42] joules: share url/link here [00:42] joules: i want to see these two "declared" "renderers" you speak of [00:43] yeah that's the mesa clinfo it shows both. just not the amdgpu-pro drivers. [00:43] show it [00:43] joules@joules-X8DAH:/home/julian$ clinfo [00:43] Number of platforms 2y [00:43] 2 [00:43] :DS [00:44] clinfo from amd (/opt/amdgpu-pro/bin/clinfo) shows 1 but anyhow nvm. [00:44] clinfo from AMD shows ONE...that's what i would expect [00:45] as it must be "declared" and it's first come first served [00:45] dunno, just need some proper confirmation [00:45] dude your gunna trip my "doesn't know what he's talking about" wire soon. [00:46] lol..that's fine..i've used this tatertots name on IRC for years [00:46] lol [00:47] so long that people would laugh if you went around saying that after your wire was "tripped" [00:48] k it finally works, just gotta check everything works, thanks for the help [00:49] Hi. I'm exploring Ubuntu 19.10 with a fresh install and I'm tying to setup the gTile extension. I noticed that Ubuntu/something is receiving some keybindings before they reach gTile so I can't assign them within gTile. I've customized all available keybindings in the settings for the keyboard but can't find the ones I want gTile used. Is there an a list I can consult with all default keybindings in Ubuntu? I can't find what's taking the combo I want to [00:49] use (C-M-S-). [01:43] what's the best supported kernel for amdgpu-pro drivers (yes I need opencl proversion from AMD). === zbenjamin is now known as Guest73208 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [02:25] hi what xorg xserver-video driver do I need for vega? [02:34] and to completely purge hwe cancer from my system. [02:34] :D [02:34] i did "apt remove ".*hwe*" but there's something hanging that pulls the rest in :/ (xorg) [02:42] joules: A bit involved to revert: run: "sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-input-all libwayland-egl1-mesa "; And then clean up : "sudo apt purge linux-generic-lts-bionic xserver-xorg-core-lts-bionic xserver-xorg-lts-bionic xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-bionic xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-bionic [02:42] libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-bionic". [02:46] cool thanks. [02:50] joules: ^^ that is supposing that you are running 18.04 :D [02:50] yeap ;) [02:51] need to get back to basic then try one more time with this opencl stuff then give up. [03:26] hi, trying to start xorg, but its looking for drivers with "driver" however packages and search and actual directory has "driver_dri" is there a package configure option anyone knows about? rather not have to make symlinks myself if possible. [03:32] nvm broken symlinks to amdgpu-pro hanging about :/ === Mrokii_ is now known as Mrokii [04:00] guys can I have a small help regarding the install? I dont get the uefi naming on ubuntu [04:00] vfbsilva: uefi naming? whats unclear, whats not working as expected (what did you expect), how is it actually working)? [04:01] tomreyn: im uploading a pic sec [04:04] tomreyn: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPfrMSkqo59KiklTgDiMRmaaysyHXwJ6QfCkYpHUt55y0VAfVUf-h3oBaS1s8m0mQ?key=VnNhVWdFaWdDV2R0cTR4U0QzUUw1YWhPaEQ4OTNR [04:04] so is uefi setup on sda5? [04:04] sda2 is the efi system partition [04:05] okay so should /boot be on sda2? [04:05] this is where all operating systems should place their boot loader and the mainboard firmware (the UEFI) will load it from (if it's the first efi system partition (ESP) it finds across all disks) [04:06] cause in manjaro I have a /boot/uefi partition [04:06] grub will place its first part on the ESP, then load the rest from sda5 [04:07] sda2 will become /boot/efi/ on the final system [04:07] sda5 will become /boot [04:07] okay [04:07] tomreyn: thanks a lot [04:08] vfbsilva: you're welcome. [04:09] vfbsilva: oh the boot loader target option you have there on the bottom should probably still point to sda5 [04:10] it does [04:10] this is probably correct, i think grub realizes there is an ESP at sda2 automatically and places its first part there. [04:10] ok [04:16] tomreyn: everything worked thanks a alot [04:43] Hello [04:49] Anyone here [04:53] hi lhuf, do you have an ubuntu support question? [04:53] Yes [04:53] !ask [04:53] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [04:55] I am trying to install ubuntu on my alienware r4 but the installer freezes randomly after a certain amount of time and then shows this error: tpm_crb MSFT0101:00 [Firmware bug]: ACPI region does not cover tsponse buffer [04:56] have you done a bios update recently? [04:57] About 2 weeks ago yes [04:57] as the message states, this is likely caused by a bios bug [04:58] it may be possible to work around it, though. which ubuntu version are you trying to install there? [04:58] 18.04 lts [04:59] 18.04.0 or .1 or .2 or .3, do you know? [04:59] Erm 18.04.3 [05:00] you can probably work aorund this by booting with the pcie_aspm=off kernel parameter [05:00] !kernelparm [05:00] To add a one-time or permanent kernel boot parameter see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters [05:01] So if I am trying to install this how would I do this? As if I hit try ubuntu before installing it still crashes after less than a minute [05:04] lhuf: did you read the link ubottu posted, yet? [05:04] you asked less than a minute after it was posted, so i assume you did not? [05:05] Ohh so I can do this while its booting I see, should i do the temporary one? [05:05] lhuf: yes [05:05] Thank you [05:06] you're welcome, let me know how it worked [05:12] lhuf: if this issue persists after installation (i.e. on the installed system, even after it was fully updated AND rebooted), you may want to check whether you can disable the TPM (sometimes called "fTPM") on your UEFI / BIOS configuration screens. [05:13] only if that's not available there you should permanently configure the pcie_aspm=off kernel parameter as discussed on the wiki link above. [05:15] Hello [05:16] hi happyamos, do you have an ubuntu support question? [05:16] Nope, just confirming my login works [05:17] cool. you can use the /ping IRC command also for this purpose. [05:17] Cool, thanks :) [05:17] So I entered the command you said on gnu grub then hit ctrl x and nothing happened [05:18] Also my grub just says grub> it doesn't have any of the other areas like the images in the explanation you also linked to [05:19] this is a grub CLI, which shows when you hit escape twice. you can return to the grub menu where you can edit those records by typing "menu" i think [05:20] hmm no it's not "menu" [05:21] type "exit" or "normal", then hit escape again [05:21] in quick succession [05:24] lhuf: does this help? [05:26] Still crashed :( after the word splash there were three - and I entered my parameter after this, should I have put it before? [05:31] lhuf: yes, you need to put it before the three dashes [05:31] I will try this === JanC_ is now known as JanC [05:34] Damn still not working [05:35] lhuf: can you check whether you have the "(f)TPM" option on the bios / UEFI configuration screens? maybe that's easier [05:36] the goal would be to disable this device. [05:36] alternatively, if you would like to continue trying with the pcie_aspm=off option, please take and upload a screen shot after entering it on the grub menu [05:37] I think I tried this earlier but will try again, there is a tpm option in security [05:37] (and before hitting enter) [05:37] also, if you can tell the exact Alienware R4 model you have there, maybe we can find a better workaround. [05:38] I will make a screenshot now [05:38] https://laptopmedia.com/laptop-specs/alienware-17-r4-4/ === coffeeguy is now known as zenguy [05:42] And here is the ss: https://ibb.co/dLkQ8dk [05:44] lhuf: yes this looks fine. have you tried this with the opther menu option, "Install Ubuntu (now)"? [05:45] the one you're trying to edit there now is the option where ubuntu boots into the live mode [05:45] Ok I will try that now [05:45] but you'll still need the parameter there [05:45] also add "nomodeset" [05:46] So just do a space and add that [05:46] yes [05:46] ... quiet splash pcie_aspm=off nomodeset --- [05:48] I have gotten further than ever [05:49] so where di you get to, the installer? [05:49] It seems to be working I am currently selecting install alongside windows [05:49] this is the latest firmware by the way: https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=rytgt&oscode=wt64a&productcode=alienware-17-laptop [05:50] unfortunately gaming laptops are often problematic. [05:58] Hopefully this works once installed but I am now having some issues with partitioning my ssd as that is where windows is installed and I dont want to copy over it [05:59] if you do auto partitioning with the "insatall alongside windows" option then the windows partition should get shrinked so there's be enough space to install ubuntu [06:00] if you prefer amnual partitioning and have questions about it, just post another screen [06:00] …shot [06:07] Hello I disconnected [06:07] wb [06:08] I was just wondering when I select the ssd that also has my windows on does ubuntu automatically partition it or what? [06:10] if you do auto partitioning with the "insatall alongside windows" option then the windows partition should get shrinked so there's be enough space to install ubuntu [06:10] if you prefer manual partitioning and have questions about it, just post another screen shot [06:11] Sorry for my lack of knowledge haha I will now [06:13] that's fine, it's not something you can know without reading the manual, i think [06:13] https://ibb.co/YWX2X4d this ssd is where I want ubuntu to be with about 30gb [06:14] Unless there is a way to use the ssd for the os and my hdd for files etc [06:17] lhuf: hmm i think for custom partitioning you'd actually need to do the partitioning outside of the installer if you want to install alongside windows. but i'm not entirely sure - i don't do windows nor multi-boot (it's just too much fiddling, amongst other) [06:17] maybe you can use "change" on the partition that is selected and resize it? [06:19] Ok but if I just select the ssd it will never write over windows right? [06:20] and yes there is a way to use the ssd for the OS and a separate hdd for files [06:21] i assume this system ir running in uefi mode, and windows was installed in uefi mode, too. if so, ubuntu's grub will be written to nvme0n1p1, the "efi" type partition [06:22] that's independeant of which disk you install the rest of ubuntu to [06:22] windows should never get overwritten, but when you do anything like partition changes you must ensure you have complete and reliably restorable and current backups [06:28] Ok well I'm installing so thanks so much for your help... do you think that once its installed it will work without parameters? [06:30] lhuf: hard to tell. you may still need to use these parameters during the first boot from hard disk, maybe will have to keep using the pcie_aspm=off one all time. but i recommend you start with none, see how far you can get, then only add these parameters as needed, and one by one, like you did before. [06:31] and repeat this after installing all the updates that are available (running "sudo apt update" on a temrinal should report that no updates available in the end), and rebooting. [06:32] that's when you'll have all the Os updates installed (which may contain newer workarounds for the buggy bios) [06:32] the "nomodeset" parameter should not be needed once you installed the nvidia proprietary drivers, which the installer should already be doing. [06:32] (unless oyu choose not to) [06:34] Seems to be working just fine [06:35] Honestly thanks man you have been apart of helping kickstart my journey of web development [06:35] 😂😂 [06:35] :) good luck there, enjoy your new system. [06:37] i have a remote machine that I've been given access to. I've got the access of only its vscode. I want to download the source code of a repository on my home computer, is there any way I can do so? [06:37] Oh lol and now its crashed ahaha [06:37] After enabling livepatch [06:39] lhuf livepatch? [06:40] lhuf: post a full system journal after rebooting: journalctl -b -1 | nc termbin.com 9999 [06:41] martiansoul67: what are this remote computer and your home computer running, and how are they related / linked, i.e. how does it matter that the remote one runs something for when you want to download somethjing to your (laocal, i guess) home computer? [06:43] martiansoul67: when i say "what are [these compuiters] running" i mean their operating systems. [06:45] I'm not sure, what's the remote machine running. [06:46] I am participating in a sort of workshop, where in Chrome, at port 8080, I can access the VSCode of the remote server. [06:46] and that workshop ends in around 12 hours. [06:46] So, I want to get all my code. [06:47] Termbin.com/7tm6 [06:47] I'm doing the update command now [06:47] tomreyn, this is the context. [06:54] martiansoul67: okay, and which of these systems runs ubuntu? [06:54] lhuf: good, keep the updates coming. i'll have a look at the log now. to get my attention, type "tomreyn" here [06:55] tomreyn, my system. [06:56] martiansoul67: which protocol do you use to access remotely? [06:57] tomreyn, and most likely the remote server is an AWS or something like that. I'm connecting over http [06:58] martiansoul67: so just http, not webdav or something? then what you can do remotely depends on what the web application or web server enables you to access. that's not really something we can help with here. [06:59] tomreyn, not familiar with webdav. [07:00] Tomreyn all updates done and those crashes seemed to just be todo with monitoring hardware because it happened for the livepatch and for sending my PC info for development weird [07:01] lhuf: what was the crash like? did the entire computer freeze, did a single application fail (and print an error message)? [07:02] and how did you recover from it [07:02] "crash" can mean so many things. [07:02] The whole computer crashed sorry [07:03] And I had to hold power button to turn off [07:03] !sysrq [07:03] In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing slowly, in succession, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key [07:03] try this next time [07:03] and before you do this, try this: [07:03] !tty [07:03] To get to the TTY terminals 3-6, use the keystroke Ctrl + Alt + F3-F6 respectively. Ctrl-Alt-F2 or Ctrl-Alt-F1 will get you back to your graphical login (Ctrl-Alt-F7 on 16.04). To change TTY resolution, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution [07:04] either way, this should not be happening, you will need to spend more time on working out how to prevent it. [07:04] hi, i have an issue, i set X11 to use a separate Screen for my HMD diplay, now when i try to maximise a window it takes up both monitors and doesn't display the application menus and close,minimize,maximise buttons on the top bar/panel... couldn't find any solutions to this with a google [07:07] lhuf: see above. also, reviewing your logs, i see more and more reports on BIOS bugs. :-/ something you can do in this case is to have linux pretend it was windows, which can help since many computers (firmwares in this case) are only really tested (and customized to work) with windows. [07:08] Ok [07:08] lhuf: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html === illuminated_ is now known as illuminated [07:19] Hello, I have a rather general question. I'm not sure if this is the right place. [07:20] Regarding the implemenation of hibernation [07:21] Why would a hibernation feature care about ACPI? / Why would hibernation care about hardware? [07:21] DarkTrick: hibernation involves power stuff, why wouldnt it [07:22] Couldn't it be simply implemented as 1) freeze everything 2) "save everything to disk" 3) Shut down computer as always 4) When the computer starts, it simply checks if there is a "RAM-file" 5) if yes, load it into RAM, unfreeze everything and go [07:23] DarkTrick: what's the problem you're having? [07:24] EriC^^, Hibernation seems to work differently well on Win and Ubuntu. From earlier discussions I heard it's a "hardware support thing" or a "ACPI thing" [07:25] DarkTrick: no worries, you can use the acpi_osi parameter in grub to sort that out usually [07:25] I'd like to understand the point where my "easy implementation" (above) does not work anymore [07:25] DarkTrick: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html [07:27] EriC^^, The title already is already "beyond" the point of my question. [07:27] DarkTrick: alright [07:27] EriC^^, Basically I don't understand why hibernating should be different to a usual shutdown [07:28] so you plan to rewrite the hibernation feature [07:28] EriC^^: Not at this point [07:29] My question is more of a "I'd like to have an idea of what's the actual problem" [07:29] instead of "I want to solve this exact problem on my machine" [07:32] it seems this is outside of ubuntu support, it's more about discussing technical concepts than of a support question. maybe ##linux is a better place, or ##acpi if it exists. [07:32] this is what ubuntu uses (though earlier versions probably): https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/HEAD/src/sleep/sleep.c [07:33] you can look for more suitable IRC channels using !alis [07:34] lhuf: looks like someone else suffered from the same system and its bios bugs: https://www.dell.com/community/Alienware/AW17r5-BIOS-Issues/td-p/7391290 [07:35] Hopefully Dell sort It [07:35] System settings isn't working for me even after trying the shell script but hey ho [07:36] "System settings"? what do you mean? [07:38] tomreyn, thank you for you pointer! [07:38] The spanner and screwdriver on top right drop down.. preferences? [07:39] lhuf: the settings application is somehow not working as expected. what is not working as expected? [07:39] how is this related to a shell script? [07:40] Oh the link you sent about making it think its windows has a shell script that does it for you [07:40] lhuf: yes, it allows you to stage changes to how you boot which are applied on the next boot. did you reboot after this? [07:40] Yes [07:41] lhuf: can you post another log with this change set? journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999 [07:44] Omg I think it worked [07:45] Termbin.com/sqtv [07:45] I changed the code to 2017 but before I changed the wrong bit to 2017 I changed the if statement that checks if it has already been changed instead [07:48] Webcam and setting are now working which weren't before [07:49] lhuf: i think there were some mistakes during editing the boot parameters. the log you posted has this: ...ro acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2015" acpi_osi=! acpi_osi= quiet... while it hsould just have this: ...ro acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2015" quiet... [07:50] lhuf: "Windows 2017" could only work if the commands given on the article actually reported this as a possible value. [07:50] Wait but it's working now [07:50] Oh I looked up what windows 10 is known as on Microsoft site and it said windows 2017 [07:52] does this return "Windows 2017" though? sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i 'windows ' | sort [07:53] there can be other reasons why "it" is working now after you rebooted. a microcode update was also loaded (though this should not affect the webcam, but i'm not sure what other changes you saw). [07:54] Oh no it doesn't [07:54] So what should I do now sorry I'm lost again [07:54] you can use gedit admin:///etc/default/grub to edit the configuration file where the acpi_osi parameters are set. [07:55] after editing, you will need to also run sudo update-grub and reboot the system. [07:56] if setting ...ro acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2015" quiet... makes "it" worse again, you can try to just set it to ...ro acpi_osi=! acpi_osi= quiet... which is probably what you effectively had by the time you created this latest log file [08:01] lhuf: on both logs you're using the "nouveau" open source graphics driver. this is a limited feature (and lower performance) driver compared to the proprietary "nvidia" graphics driver, which is also available. have you chosen not to install it? [08:07] Terminal said /etc/default/grub: quiet... not found [08:07] And no I did not choose not to [08:08] lhuf: what is it that you had typed on the terminal when it said this? [08:09] Sudo update-grub [08:17] Sorry forgot to ping tomreyn [08:17] lhuf: cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999 [08:18] Termbin.com/b7nb [08:19] lhuf: oh, looks like you took what i wrote verbatim [08:19] those "..." were emant to say "here starts/end this sequence" [08:19] Oh what should be different soz [08:20] i should be able to tell you in a minute [08:21] I removed the ... and it says same thing I only kept them because something underneath has ... after so thought it needed it haha [08:22] lhuf: so run gedit admin:///etc/default/grub again and replace this line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=Windows 2015" quiet ... by (exactly, please double check) this: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=Windows 2015\"" [08:23] lhuf: once that is done, share it again using cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999 and run sudo update-grub agin [08:23] *again [08:25] Tomreyn termbin.com/ve0y [08:26] lhuf: not exact (one extra space) but good enough. :) only after all of the above is done (sudo update-grub, right), but before you reboot, run software-properties-gtk --open-tab 4 and enable the nvidia drivers. [08:28] * jesopo ubuntu noises [08:28] Gives me three options two proprietary and one older but proprietary tested I'm guessing I should use that one right tomreyn [08:29] lhuf: you can try those one by one, see which one works best. [08:30] you'll have to reboot each time, though [08:30] i.e. i'm not sure which one is the best option [08:32] your graphics card (PCI ID 10de:1c20) is an Nvidia GTX 1060 (Mobile) [08:32] nvidia.com will have some form of documentation on which driver is recommended for this [08:33] All seems to be working well after reboot [08:36] nice, post another log if you like [08:36] journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999 [08:37] lhuf: ^ [08:38] Termbin.com/e3zb [08:41] yes this looks almost not entirely bad now [08:43] Awesome man thank you :):) [08:43] you should now have some nvidia-settings (or similar) application which you can use to configure the graphics [08:45] there are still rather serious problems, but this is probably as good as it gets with this bios [08:47] lhuf: ^ this and: you could try a newer kernel version, there's a chance it has better workarounds. i.e. sudo apt install linux-generic-hwe-18.04-edge [08:48] Should I do that now then? [08:48] i would, but this is your computer. ;) [08:50] Done [08:50] Does it require another restart [08:50] yes [08:52] also note that canonical-livepatch is not properly configured on your system (or wasn't when you created the latest log). You would need to run canonical-livepatch enable but it may not actually work with the newer kernel I just suggested to install. [08:54] Ye said permission denied [08:59] Is it even needed tomreyn [09:02] lhuf: you decide on this [09:02] !livepatch [09:02] Canonical Livepatch is a service offered by Canonical for 64 bit 14.04 and higher installs that modifies the currently running kernel for updates without the need to restart. More information can be found at https://ubottu.com/y/livepatch and https://www.ubuntu.com/server/livepatch [09:02] it is not strictly required, no. === sauvin_ is now known as Sauvin [09:05] lhuf: "permission denied" means the user you ran something as does not have the privileges that are required to run something. (only) if you think the command you were trying to run is safe to run as root, you can run it again, prefixed with "sudo" [09:05] !sudo [09:05] sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !pkexec (for older releases: !gksu and !kdesudo). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo [09:05] so in this case you'd run sudo canonical-livepatch enable [09:07] No key provided [09:08] A: @pdflatex: Anyone here who knows how to make pdflatex to support UTF-8? (standard installation under ubuntu; that's why I ask here) [09:09] A: \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} does not work. Maybe something is missing from the installation? [09:10] lhuf: you'll need to get an api key from canonical to use it (free for personal use). read its docoumentation for more info [09:36] Hi everyone [09:37] hello Guest_86 [09:38] Hello everyone! I need help with Ubuntu MATE 19.10. I'm trying to setup bluetooth, but my phone won't detect my pc, and my pc won't detect my phone [09:39] I opened "Bluetooth Adapters" from the menu and set it to "Always visible" and then closed it. But, when I open it again, it's selected to "Hidden" [09:40] does rfkill list say that something is (hard or soft) blocked? [09:41] I tired that, and it's not blocked [09:41] neither soft nor hard [09:41] And, when I press search in "Bluetooth Devices" it gives this error: https://pasteboard.co/INtsyVD.png [09:42] ok, then it's going to be bluetooth specific which i have almost no clue of [09:42] oh [09:43] But, it works in other distro (Linux Mint installed in my other hard drive) [09:43] !bluetooth [09:43] For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup [09:43] I am having some issues trying to switch my desktop environment and I thought this might be the place to ask. I want to set a script to control the brightness of my monitor and the keyboard backlight but I cannot seem to figure out how to. For brightness I found you can set a value in /sys/class/backlight since xbacklight seems to produce no [09:43] change, but for keyboard I have no idea what's going on. Works out of the box in gnome but I have no idea how they manage it. [09:44] running dbus-monitor in termnial shows that they send some events for the brightness control but nothing shows up when I use the combination for keyboard backlight [11:00] can the date and time be moved to the right without addons/extensions? [11:21] Hi, I recently updated my 18.04 LTS and after rebooting the touchpad wouldn't work. Any help would be appreciated thanks! === kreyren_ is now known as kreyren [11:41] Reverted to a previous kernel and now it works again! [12:05] i am trying to install an old specific versoin of a package [12:05] command that was run was: sudo ap-get install tvheadend in 2018.01.01 ... i would like the version of around that time [12:06] i am now getting the latest version which is not desired [12:06] http://ppa.launchpad.net/mamarley/tvheadend-git-stable/ubuntu/dists/xenial/ [12:06] i am not sure how to find the old version [12:06] seems to only be on there\ === littlebit1 is now known as littlebit [12:26] EmmaT: maybe you can use the apt logs to get which was installed [12:26] /var/log/apt/history* [12:51] Hi, I'm looking for a program that can periodically update the command output in the terminal. For example, I want to run a commands "sensors" and want the output to be updated every 10 seconds. How can I do that? [12:52] Something like 'watch' maybe? https://linuxize.com/post/linux-watch-command/ [12:53] mati^^ [12:54] cipher45: that's exactly what i've been looking for, cheers! [13:01] EmmaT: as long as you have a repository that has the older version, you can install it with apt-get install tvheadend=your_version_here [13:09] Hello. I installed a deb package (fontconfig-2.13) due to issues with 2.12. This now throws an error when doing `apt install `, so very hampering. What's the best way to revert to 2.12? [13:13] Fixed: I simply downloaded the deb from https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/amd64/fontconfig/download and `sudo dpkg -i fontconfig-2.12…` === Squarism is now known as Squarism_ === Squarism_ is now known as Squarism [13:39] Hello everyone [13:51] how can i run a script after scl enable python27 bash since it invokes a new cmdline trm? [14:01] Hi, [14:02] I have a problem, i don't know if it's after an update or what. When i want to open a RTSP stream in vlc it fails, i don't have any details on the console (even with -vv arg). it just says "check the log for more details" but i don't know witch logs... [14:03] I can open my rtsp stream with mplayer but not with VLC, and i need it working with VLC because i also use the library "libVLC" for another software (that i made) to watch my cctv cameras. So as libVLC has a problem, my software cant watch the cameras and VLC can't too. [14:04] It's not stream problem because with mplayer it works. Did someone know where VLC logs are ? And if 3.0.8 is recent in ubuntu deps ? [14:05] How to know when a packet has been upgraded in ubuntu deps ? [14:07] Hello. I'm trying to scan with a quite old Brother DCP-8020 on Kubuntu 1804 LTS and get strange results: [14:07] lsusb says: Bus 001 Device 004: ID 04f9:0140 Brother Industries, Ltd DCP-8020 [14:07] sane-find-scanner says: found USB scanner (vendor=0x04f9, product=0x0140) at libusb:001:004 [14:07] sudo scanimage -L says: No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different, ... === happyamos_ is now known as happyamos [14:17] Bundestrojaner: why are you running scanimage with sudo? [14:18] ducasse: to exclude permission problems during testing [14:19] add your user to the scanner group, and there shouldn't be any [14:20] Hi folks [14:21] ducasse: already done. i've tried it without sudo at first. [14:24] rebooting, brb [14:29] Bundestrojaner: if you don't get any response here, try #sane [14:29] ducasse: thx, i've asked there parallel. it seems they are all afk :( [14:30] it's a small channel, might be quiet on weekends [14:32] hello [14:32] one aditional thing: On the old pc with kubuntu1604, the scanner perfectly worked. When i tried it on this new machine with kubuntu1804 ~2 years ago, the scanner was recogniced but scanning delifered an "invalid argument"-error - which is a known problem with old brother scanners and xhci (usb3, this machine has usb3 only) so i could not solve it. [14:32] Now, the scanner is not even recognized... [14:52] any body know how to remove the on screen keyboard at lock screen ?? i have to use the extension block-caribou to prevent this on screen keyboard to show up when clicking on window with my touchscreen. in the universal acess setting the onscreen is off, org.gnome.desktop.screensaver embedded-keyboard-enabled is set on false... I don't know what to do with that ugly keyboard :\ [14:55] ru^2: That includes the onboard preferences show onboard when unlocking the screen? [14:56] hello, how can I make thumbnails resolve enough to be viewable? [14:56] I tried with dconf-editor but couldn''t make them larger [14:56] i dont have onboard installed, i tried to install it and change this setting, did nothing [14:57] Skyrider: [14:58] hmm, how can the virtual keybooard show if you don't have it installed? sudo apt purge --autoremove onboard onboard-common onboard-data [15:01] ok onboard was apparently installed [15:01] but the keyboard continue to show up on lock screen [15:02] i will try a reboot.. [15:02] i reboot [15:05] did nothing, the onscreen is always here, :\ [15:07]