| === BrianG61UK_ is now known as BrianG61UK | ||
| JamesKostros | Hola, buenas noches | 00:31 |
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| wxl | !es | 00:54 |
| ubottu | En este canal de lubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #lubuntu-es; escriba " /join #lubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 00:54 |
| === ted is now known as Guest78286 | ||
| Guest78286 | podemos resolver nossas dúvidas por aqui? | 03:11 |
| wxl | !es | Guest78286 | 03:12 |
| ubottu | Guest78286: En este canal de lubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #lubuntu-es; escriba " /join #lubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 03:12 |
| Guest78286 | sorry | 03:12 |
| wxl | no, we're sorry :) | 03:12 |
| Guest78286 | ok | 03:12 |
| Guest78286 | so, there's no lubuntu channel in portuguese? | 03:13 |
| Guest78286 | just in english? | 03:13 |
| lynorian | !pt | 03:14 |
| ubottu | Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada. | 03:14 |
| Guest78286 | ok | 03:14 |
| guiverc | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList (for list of available languages/locos) | 03:14 |
| tbs | Hello, im kinda new at linux, i see that lubuntu uses kde pack manager. are all packs same when we open it on a kde desktopped distro? | 06:05 |
| tbs | im back | 06:08 |
| wxl | tbs: howdy | 06:10 |
| wxl | tbs: so i'm not sure i completely understand your question. first, we don't use the kde desktop, but there's a couple kde applications we use. | 06:11 |
| tbs | wxl: shortly, can i find all app that kubuntu kde app store has at lubuntu kde app store? | 06:13 |
| wxl | tbs: secondly, in regards to binary packages, no, they're not all the same. there are so-called universal packages, but this is a relatively new concept that is not without its flaws. | 06:13 |
| wxl | tbs: if you wish to install software on kubuntu or lubuntu, both use discover or muon (or, on the command line, apt/dpkg) and all of them use the same software sources (the ubuntu archive) | 06:14 |
| tbs | wxl: i think i saw steam and google earth at discover, but i can t find them now at lubuntu discover | 06:17 |
| wxl | tbs: again, they all come from the same source | 06:19 |
| wxl | here's the Debian packages related to steam https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=steam | 06:20 |
| tbs | wxl: may i ask u to check if u can see them at discover? | 06:21 |
| wxl | you WON'T find google earth. you can talk to google about THAT problem. | 06:21 |
| tbs | wxl: im sorry for making u angry, thanks for answers, have a nice day ^^ | 06:22 |
| guiverc | tbs, you didn't make wxl angry | 06:22 |
| wxl | tbs: i concur. there's no ill feeling in any way. | 06:23 |
| wxl | (…except maybe toward google) | 06:23 |
| tbs | u showed me a page about steam but i still dont see steam at discover app when i search it, what can i do? | 06:25 |
| tbs | wxl: | 06:26 |
| wxl | here's a screenshot of steam in discover https://share.riseup.net/#-c9rS6hvbY55ht9H6scEaw | 06:27 |
| wxl | you might try closing discover and reopening it | 06:28 |
| wxl | you could also use muon | 06:28 |
| tbs | wxl: seems like ur my discover cant discover like urs :/ | 06:29 |
| wxl | tbs: did you check the hashes of your ISO and also check the installation media for defects? if not, perhaps it's a faulty install. | 06:30 |
| tbs | wxl: i did | 06:30 |
| wxl | then it should just work. regardless, try muon instead. it will work. | 06:31 |
| tbs | wxl: there appaers a sentence, i use turkish so i ll try to translate it to e nglish for u tu understand | 06:32 |
| tbs | wxl: "be sure that you configured appstream correctly at your system" | 06:33 |
| wxl | hah wow that's new | 06:33 |
| tbs | i see this whenever i open discover | 06:33 |
| tbs | but idk what to do | 06:34 |
| wxl | wow that is just bizarre | 06:35 |
| wxl | you could try reinstalling discover itself | 06:35 |
| tbs | hmm, from moon ? | 06:36 |
| wxl | `sudo dpkg-reconfigure plasma-discover` and/or `sudo apt reinstall plasma-discover` in terminal ought to do it | 06:36 |
| wxl | you could also try doing the same with the appstream package instead of plasma-discover | 06:37 |
| tbs | <wxl> `sudo dpkg-reconfigure plasma-discover` and/or `sudo apt reinstall plasma-discover` in terminal ought to do it i did these but it s same | 06:39 |
| tbs | can u write full code about appstream package? | 06:40 |
| wxl | just replace "plasma-discover" with "appstream" | 06:40 |
| tbs | still same | 06:42 |
| wxl | what version of lubuntu are you on, out of curiousity? | 06:43 |
| tbs | 19.10 | 06:43 |
| wxl | with discover closed, try running `appstreamcli refresh` | 06:45 |
| wxl | oh you may need to `sudo appstreamcli refresh` | 06:45 |
| tbs | i did need, an d it said " appstream doesn t need "frontram" update" im notsure about tra nslate of "frontram" | 06:47 |
| wxl | ok let's get more aggressive: `sudo appstreamcli refresh --force` | 06:47 |
| tbs | (null) it said | 06:48 |
| wxl | that's truly bizarre | 06:50 |
| tbs | i didnt format /home partition and just picked it again at with same name, so some of my apps has somethings from previous apps, is this maybe also cuz of that? | 06:50 |
| wxl | depending on what the previous distro was, that could be anything from slightly problematic to completely disastrous | 06:51 |
| wxl | so, yes, most likely | 06:51 |
| tbs | i used mint xfce, i m usin g this n ow cuz xfce doesnt have arrange options for desktop icons and it auto arrange desktop icons at restrart an d i can t stop it... | 06:52 |
| wxl | oh my please do a fresh install | 06:53 |
| wxl | you're going to drive yourself crazy trying to resolve that mess | 06:53 |
| tbs | yes, it seeems i need to do that | 06:54 |
| tbs | btw i like lubuntu really | 06:54 |
| wxl | i'm glad :) | 06:54 |
| wxl | and with that, i am going to sleep | 06:54 |
| wxl | best of luck to you and hope to see you around :) | 06:54 |
| tbs | are you perheps at lubuntu team ? | 06:54 |
| wxl | yeah that's me | 06:54 |
| wxl | (one of the team) | 06:55 |
| tbs | may i want something selfish_? :D | 06:55 |
| wxl | what's that? | 06:55 |
| tbs | do u know archman? | 06:55 |
| tbs | it s a distro | 06:55 |
| wxl | nope | 06:55 |
| tbs | they use arch as base | 06:56 |
| wxl | i gather that XD | 06:56 |
| tbs | i saw their lxde or lxqt desktop not offical but from oter members i guess at their store | 06:56 |
| tbs | i liked the way of that distro do som ethings they build at some ways | 06:57 |
| tbs | but it s not stable, needs somethin gs to repair i guess | 06:57 |
| wxl | well being based on arch there will be plenty of things that won't be compatible with the ubuntu ecosystem | 06:58 |
| wxl | and that is one of them XD | 06:58 |
| tbs | i wanted to ask that if u may check it so u may creat a theme or som ethin g like that smilar but better of them:) | 06:58 |
| tbs | give m e a m in an d i ll fin d adress | 06:59 |
| wxl | i guess that would depend on what specific thing(s) you want changed/added | 07:00 |
| tbs | i guessed u m ay wonder about that:D | 07:00 |
| tbs | btw it was openbox, not lx ... | 07:01 |
| tbs | https://sourceforge.net/projects/archman-os/files/stable-iso/2019-03/community/openbox/ | 07:01 |
| tbs | but here we use openbox also i guess | 07:01 |
| wxl | openbox is our window manager. it could be almost anything. | 07:01 |
| tbs | well, idk much :/ | 07:01 |
| wxl | openbox itself is pretty minimal | 07:01 |
| tbs | if u check this distro u can see ab out changing desktop, but it haves some bad ways too, i also liked left side tab | 07:03 |
| tbs | changing desktop i m ean hmmm i can t remember right word... | 07:04 |
| tbs | at most de we have it but they did it at a little different way | 07:04 |
| tbs | at left side bar there s an icon that shows all apps at desktop but it has bugs, it also devour desktop items which s not about app icons:D | 07:06 |
| wxl | you like the dock | 07:06 |
| tbs | i dont wait that u would do the same of them but i just wanted to show u an idea cuz after all distros i tried this s the one of the bests distro i could find | 07:07 |
| tbs | sorry to keep u here, good night sleep well ^^ | 07:08 |
| wxl | you might try latte-dock | 07:09 |
| wxl | i've never bothered so ymmv | 07:09 |
| tbs | more likely i like transparant parted things to see more empty spaces i guess | 07:10 |
| wxl | https://kde.org/applications/utilities/org.kde.latte-dock | 07:10 |
| wxl | anyways off to bed i go! :) | 07:11 |
| tbs | sleep well^^ | 07:11 |
| tbs | "Be sure Appstream is properly installed" this s the error message i get from discover, it seems this s a bug since 2 years ago but i couldn t find how to solve this. can any one help me? | 09:30 |
| tbs | i reinstalled discover with synaptic and muon, i even reinstalled lubuntu... | 09:31 |
| hellsurfer | hello | 12:36 |
| hellsurfer | someone else? | 12:37 |
| tbs | Hello, how are you guys? | 13:56 |
| tbs | can anyone help me about changing apparance of lubuntu a little? | 14:33 |
| tbs | can anyone help me about customize apparence of lubuntu a little? | 14:58 |
| tbs | can anyone help me about customize apparence of lubuntu a little? | 16:21 |
| tbs | can anyone help me about customize apparence of lubuntu a little? | 16:56 |
| dzho | oh, gone | 20:48 |
| tbs | hello | 21:12 |
| tbs | anyone here? | 21:12 |
| kc2bez | Yes tbs I am here now. | 21:26 |
| tbs | kc2bez: how are you? | 21:26 |
| kc2bez | I am doing well. | 21:27 |
| tbs | good | 21:27 |
| tbs | well | 21:27 |
| tbs | may i ask u somethings?, it s okay if u feel bothered i wouldn t want to ask | 21:28 |
| kc2bez | No problem asking, this is the support channel. | 21:28 |
| tbs | maybe u are also here to get help... | 21:29 |
| kc2bez | No, I am here to help if I can. if I don't have the answer maybe someone else does. | 21:29 |
| kc2bez | !ask | 21:29 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 21:29 |
| tbs | i have a problem about discover, it s known bug it seems, i searched about it at net | 21:30 |
| tbs | even before 2 years there was this bug im facing now at discover app | 21:31 |
| tbs | when i open discover it says " be sure to configure appstream correctly on your system" | 21:32 |
| tbs | probably becouse of this i cant see some apps at discover... | 21:32 |
| tbs | can u help me? :/ | 21:32 |
| kc2bez | That is a new one to me. Do you have a bug report to reference? | 21:33 |
| tbs | i didn t report anything | 21:34 |
| tbs | idk how | 21:34 |
| tbs | im kinda new at linux | 21:34 |
| kc2bez | No problem, I can walk you through the process. | 21:34 |
| tbs | but i like linux, i like this lubuntu for my pc too | 21:35 |
| tbs | thanks^^ | 21:35 |
| kc2bez | For reference here is our wiki page on reporting bugs: https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/bugs/ | 21:36 |
| kc2bez | To report a bug for discover here is the TL;DR process | 21:37 |
| kc2bez | Open a terminal and type in the command `ubuntu-bug discover` | 21:37 |
| kc2bez | Without the `` of course. | 21:38 |
| kc2bez | It should guide you from there. | 21:38 |
| kc2bez | You will need an account on launchpad.net so that you can get information as your bug moves along through the process. | 21:39 |
| tbs | "Please make sure that Appstream is properly setup on | 21:42 |
| tbs | your system" i guess this s right translation, i use turkish so i translated sentence on my own before. i found this at web now | 21:42 |
| kc2bez | Not sure | 21:42 |
| kc2bez | I gave you the wrong command though. | 21:42 |
| kc2bez | It should be `ubuntu-bug plasma-discover` | 21:43 |
| kc2bez | plasma-discover is the proper package name. | 21:43 |
| kc2bez | Let me do a little searching. | 21:43 |
| tbs | yes, it is, i tried to do alot of things so i also know:D | 21:43 |
| tbs | i reinstalled it with muon+synaptic also reinstalled lubuntu 2 times, ofc i chacked lubuntu hash | 21:45 |
| kc2bez | appstream data comes from the internet so If thereis a network issue between you and the source that may be part of the problem. | 21:46 |
| kc2bez | You can use muon to install packages too. | 21:46 |
| tbs | i dont have in tern et problem, u know when u open discover u see recommended apps, i also dont see them but when i search some apps i see list of apps, but i cant find some of them | 21:47 |
| tbs | i want to install steam, synaptic or muon doesnt help me... | 21:48 |
| tbs | kc2bez: ? | 21:50 |
| kc2bez | The recommended apps come from a list that is hosted here: https://autoconfig.kde.org/discover/featured-5.9.json | 21:50 |
| kc2bez | ah steam, that has a bit of a trick to it. | 21:50 |
| kc2bez | Before you install steam you need to issue in the terminal `sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt update` | 21:52 |
| kc2bez | That enables the i386 architecture that steam requires. | 21:53 |
| kc2bez | You should be able to install the steam installer from there. | 21:54 |
| tbs | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-discover/+filebug/f85d140c-2c17-11ea-a586-0025b3df357a? | 21:54 |
| tbs | i dont have account | 21:54 |
| kc2bez | You can make one, just go to launchpad.net and in the upper right click log in / register | 21:56 |
| kc2bez | From there enter an email and select I don't have an Ubuntu One account | 21:57 |
| tbs | i feel half sich of creating accounts really :/ | 22:02 |
| tbs | sick* | 22:03 |
| tbs | i n eed to write things at dark... | 22:03 |
| tbs | i need e-mail app at m y n ew system, it ll take a while... | 22:06 |
| tbs | which app u use for email? | 22:07 |
| kc2bez | Personally I use Thunderbird or a web client for the most part. I use Trojita for some stuff too. | 22:08 |
| tbs | i tried some includin g thunderbird, but cuz of some bad securty things emails has i couldnt enter them via those apps | 22:09 |
| tbs | i ll try k mail n ow if it won t work i ll use web again with ICE, do u know ice? | 22:10 |
| kc2bez | Not really, no. | 22:11 |
| tbs | it s a good app, i suggest u to try it, since u help me this much | 22:11 |
| kc2bez | I will check it out, thanks. | 22:11 |
| tbs | are you at team of lubuntu? | 22:12 |
| kc2bez | Yes, I am part of the team. | 22:12 |
| tbs | do u know peppermint? | 22:12 |
| kc2bez | I have used it a couple of times but I am not as familiar. | 22:13 |
| tbs | ice is their app if i understood well, it s for using a browser for something spesific separate from main browser app | 22:15 |
| tbs | forexample u have 2 hotmail mail, u cant sing 2 of them at same time so u can use this app for that | 22:15 |
| tbs | also this app makes page like full screen so it seems like an app itself for things like microsoft word, their primary reason to do this app is for that i guess | 22:17 |
| kc2bez | Nice, reading up on it at their web page. | 22:17 |
| tbs | https://launchpad.net/~peppermintos | 22:17 |
| tbs | u can download it from here | 22:18 |
| kc2bez | Thanks. | 22:18 |
| tbs | also i suggest u to check Advert Blocker app of theirs | 22:18 |
| kc2bez | I have one of those at my firewall but that can be handy on a laptop that isn't on your home network. | 22:19 |
| tbs | u guys may work or help eachother imo, what i see is sharing what makes linux bigger | 22:19 |
| kc2bez | From my experience there is a lot of sharing among all the distros. | 22:20 |
| tbs | peppermint s good but i think lubuntu s better at someways | 22:20 |
| kc2bez | You are right, it is the best way to make it better for everyone. It isn't a competition really, the idea is to use what works best for you. | 22:22 |
| tbs | i installed kmail but it seem s it installed so much things that i dont need to my system :/ | 22:24 |
| kc2bez | You may not need them but kmail does ;) It is the way it goes sometimes packages have many dependencies that are not on your system. | 22:26 |
| tbs | it eve n wants valled app... forcin g is not good really :/ | 22:28 |
| tbs | i ll remove them all! | 22:28 |
| tbs | i deleted all kde stuff but it seems i did wrong:D | 22:47 |
| kc2bez | Well, some of the kde stuff is installed by default so if that got removed then, yes. | 22:49 |
| kc2bez | `sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop` should bring back all the default applications. | 22:51 |
| tbs | kc2bez: are you here? | 23:06 |
| kc2bez | yup, still here | 23:06 |
| tbs | i did report, so what to do now? | 23:07 |
| lubot | <ctisme> @tbs [<tbs> i did report, so what to do now?], greet the happy new year | 23:08 |
| lubot | <ctisme> ❤️ | 23:08 |
| kc2bez | Wait for some feedback :). There isn't much that can be done until someone analyzes the issue. | 23:08 |
| tbs | u know workspaces at desktop | 23:09 |
| kc2bez | Yes. | 23:09 |
| tbs | i can change them via a little app at panel | 23:10 |
| lubot | <ctisme> @kc2bez [<kc2bez> You are right, it is the best way to make it better for everyone. It is …], 👍 | 23:10 |
| tbs | but i wan t to do it with not that little up, whenever i use m m ouse whell on panel i wanna change workspace | 23:10 |
| tbs | like i can do it on desktop | 23:11 |
| tbs | can i? | 23:11 |
| kc2bez | Not that I know of. | 23:11 |
| tbs | well, i can i guess but idk how, i saw it at another distro | 23:12 |
| tbs | https://sourceforge.net/projects/archman-os/files/stable-iso/2019-03/community/openbox/ | 23:13 |
| tbs | at this | 23:13 |
| tbs | i also liked this distro but it s n ot stable... | 23:13 |
| tbs | that distro s what lead me lxqt an d so here | 23:14 |
| kc2bez | that can be an issue with arch | 23:14 |
| kc2bez | there is a keyboard shortcut to switch desktops | 23:14 |
| kc2bez | Super + F1-4 switch | 23:15 |
| tbs | yeah but i wan n a do it on taskbar like i can do it on desktop | 23:15 |
| tbs | btw it s okay if u dont know, i m just asking and trying my chance | 23:16 |
| kc2bez | Yeah, I am not sure. | 23:16 |
| tbs | i also wan t to know how to put different wallpaper on differen d workspaces | 23:16 |
| tbs | at that distro i sent u there s those things i am mentioning | 23:17 |
| tbs | but like i said it s n ot stable, it s not even from archman itself but fro m comunity, but i liked som ethin gs those guys did there | 23:18 |
| kc2bez | I am not sure how they are accomplishing that. It isn't possible with LXQt. | 23:19 |
| tbs | u r at team of lubuntu, can u check it? :D so maybe i can learn it from you? | 23:20 |
| tbs | do u know last player mint use at 19.3 , how can i install it here? | 23:21 |
| kc2bez | I haven't used mint so I don't know. | 23:21 |
| tbs | Celluloid | 23:22 |
| tbs | how can i install this? | 23:22 |
| kc2bez | celluloid is the gym frontend for mpv. It used to be called gnome mpv | 23:25 |
| kc2bez | gtk not gym | 23:25 |
| kc2bez | autocorrect got me there. | 23:26 |
| tbs | so what if it s gtk fronted? | 23:26 |
| kc2bez | it doesn't really matter, I was just noting it. | 23:27 |
| tbs | so how can i in stall it? | 23:28 |
| kc2bez | Most of the applications we have are Qt so any gtk application will need to pull in those extra depenancies. standby let me look up the package name. | 23:28 |
| tbs | sure, thanks | 23:29 |
| kc2bez | sudo apt install gnome-mpv | 23:30 |
| kc2bez | smplayer is a possible qt alternative. | 23:30 |
| kc2bez | mpv has many different frontends. | 23:31 |
| tbs | well, i have read that Celluloid was gnome mpv, but are they same now? | 23:31 |
| kc2bez | It seems like only a name change. | 23:32 |
| tbs | vlc s fine, but i wanted to try Celluloid too some more, i tried it before lubuntu at i guess it s a little better than vlc but im not sure | 23:33 |
| tbs | will it be same with kmail if i in stall gnome-mpv? | 23:34 |
| kc2bez | If you do a `sudo apt install -s gnome-mpv` it will simulate the install and you can see what it will do. | 23:37 |
| kc2bez | The "-s" tells apt to simulate it. | 23:38 |
| kc2bez | muon will list the dependencies too. | 23:39 |
| tbs | it finished so fast, but i cant fi nd the app | 23:40 |
| kc2bez | it didn't actually install with the -s flag | 23:41 |
| kc2bez | it is a simulation | 23:41 |
| tbs | @@ | 23:41 |
| tbs | it said use sudo apt autoremove so i used it | 23:41 |
| tbs | but it seem s it removes so m uch things!!! | 23:41 |
| kc2bez | autoremove does remove things yes | 23:42 |
| tbs | i may need to reinstall lubuntu again... | 23:42 |
| kc2bez | sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop if you think it removed too much. | 23:43 |
| tbs | it even removing drivers, i guess that code wont be en ough | 23:44 |
| kc2bez | hard to say. I can't see what it is removing. | 23:45 |
| tbs | i thought sudo apt autoremove s for aotoremoving leftovers after removing an app... | 23:45 |
| kc2bez | it is. | 23:46 |
| kc2bez | extra kernel modules that are not in use, that sort of thing. | 23:46 |
| kc2bez | it is probably from the extra kde stuff that you uninstalled. | 23:47 |
| tbs | i don t have some apps now | 23:47 |
| tbs | like vlc and half of libre office apps an d som e graphic apps an d some m ore | 23:48 |
| kc2bez | they should reinstall with lubuntu-desktop | 23:48 |
| tbs | why only half or libre office apps? why not all? | 23:49 |
| kc2bez | I am not sure. | 23:50 |
| tbs | how can i install stea m? | 23:50 |
| kc2bez | [16:52] <fffffkc2bezBefore you install steam you need to issue in the terminal `sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt update` | 23:51 |
| tbs | i did | 23:51 |
| kc2bez | ok then you should be able to sudo apt install steam-installer | 23:52 |
| tbs | i ll try after in stalling lubuntu desktop | 23:53 |
| kc2bez | ok | 23:53 |
| tbs | there s notifications thing on panel, how can i delete it? | 23:54 |
| tbs | kc2bez: ? | 23:55 |
| kc2bez | what is the notification? | 23:56 |
| melodie | tbs sudo aptitude --purge inotify | 23:56 |
| tbs | well, it shows some reports from some apps i guess | 23:57 |
| melodie | so what do you want to remove precisely? | 23:57 |
| tbs | i dont wa n na see that widget on pan el | 23:58 |
| melodie | oui mais which widget??? | 23:58 |
| melodie | what about "right click" on widget and "remove <widget> from panel" ? | 23:59 |
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