[00:08] <rfm> cschneid, you want to display apps running on the Ubuntu system on the Mac, or display apps running on the Mac on Ubuntu?
[00:09] <cschneid> display on mac, running on ubuntu.
[00:09] <cschneid> I assume remote X windows, although I don't know if/what X is doing nowadays...
[00:09] <cschneid> vs other windowing systems
[00:11] <rfm> cschneid, X is still the most common on Ubuntu I think, the newer display server (Wayland) is still incompatible with much stuff.
[00:11] <compdoc> cschneid, x2go is excellent
[00:12] <compdoc> but as  with most remote clients, you need a 2d desktop
[00:12] <rfm> cschneid, for displaying just one app I've used XQuartz on the Mac to display across my local network, since I've been using that for years
[00:13] <rfm> cschneid, if you want the whole desktop, I've used xrdp on the Ubuntu server and microsoft's remotte desktop client on the mac
[00:13] <cschneid> Cool, thank you all, I'll play with the options :)
[00:13] <rfm> cschneid, I wouldn't say any of them are "best"
[00:14] <cschneid> it's a rare need I think. I set up my "gaming pc" as a much faster than my laptop server to build rust projects on. SSH + Vim for the most part is all I'll need
[00:14] <cschneid> it's on a KVM which is a pain to switch back and forth on, no actual need yet to ship apps cross the network, but I'm sure it'll come up
[00:17] <compdoc> you can do single apps with x2go
[00:32] <karnhack> Hi, I reinstalled ubuntu. This time the 19.10. But there are still unrecognized hardware components
[00:33] <facedremer> What is not being recognized?
[00:37] <karnhack> https://www.karnhack.com/public/khk-think.html
[00:38] <karnhack> [    0.749589] pci 0000:00:00.2: AMD-Vi: Unable to write to IOMMU perf counter.
[00:38] <karnhack>  
[00:38] <karnhack> [    2.308985] snd_pci_acp3x 0000:06:00.5: Invalid ACP audio mode : 2
[00:40] <OerHeks> some forums give GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="amd_iommu=on iommu=pt" for ryzen issues, or check your bios version
[00:41] <OerHeks> or iommu=soft
[00:42] <frad> 19.10 64 bits here. Im looking for an alarm clock to play the alarm every 15 minutes. What programms (gui and command line) are there?
[00:43] <peter22222> hi folks... i have a question. Have Ubuntu 18.04 and I installed a VPN-Connection to my Fritzbox (router). This is working very fine and I can access PCs via ssh and the ip-addresses in that VPN-Area.
[00:44] <peter22222> If i try that with ubuntu server via console vpnc it doesnt work... vpn connection is established, but i cannot ping or ssh any of the devices in the vpn-network
[00:44] <peter22222> server is ubuntu 19.10
[00:44] <peter22222> on my 18.04 PC with GUI it works fine, on 19.10 via terminal it doesnt... i dont understand why.. anybody has a solution?
[00:46] <peter22222> frad what about kalarm ?
[00:47] <OerHeks> parkingmeter app
[00:52] <karnhack> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GPmmx2whgN/
[00:56] <Casper26> Anyone have any suggestions on how to connect to a samba server with NT1 disabled from nautilus on ubuntu 16.04
[00:57] <karnhack> OerHeks:  bios version is R12ET46W(1.16 )
[01:00] <karnhack>  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="iommu=soft" ?
[01:04] <Bashing-om> karnhack: Maybe build "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-amdgpu.conf"? See: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2425799 .
[01:09] <huttan> Hello, I'm using ubuntu 19.10 and I would like to replace the standard lock screen with xsecurelock. (https://github.com/google/xsecurelock). Does anybody know how I would go about removing ubuntus default lock screen and replace it with this ?
[01:13] <huttan> When I try with xss-lock I get an error that the pid does not belong to any known session
[01:14] <karnhack> have lost last message
[01:18] <Bashing-om> karnhack: Last: karnhack: Maybe build "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-amdgpu.conf"? See: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2425799 .
[01:18] <karnhack> Bashing-om: Thanks :)
[03:10] <JohnnyBitcoin> hello
[03:10] <JohnnyBitcoin> need some help making a windows share mount permanent
[03:11] <JohnnyBitcoin> I can manually mount the share without a problem using the following command...
[03:11] <JohnnyBitcoin> sudo mount -t cifs -o username=winuser,password=winpassword //Windows/Share /home/pi/WinShare
[03:11] <JohnnyBitcoin> but when I try to make the mount permanent in fstab I am having problems.
[03:11] <JohnnyBitcoin> my fstab entry looks like this...
[03:11] <JohnnyBitcoin>  /servername/sharename  /media/windowsshare  cifs  username=msusername,password=mspassword,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm  0  0
[03:12] <JohnnyBitcoin> where did i go wrong?
[03:16] <kxsl> you went wrong the second you decided to use samba
[03:17] <JohnnyBitcoin> is there a better way?
[03:20] <tatertots> JohnnyBitcoin: what does the error say after rebooting with it in fstab?...you probably haven't looked
[03:20] <JohnnyBitcoin> where do i look?
[03:21] <tatertots> JohnnyBitcoin: in the logs
[03:27] <JohnnyBitcoin> samba log has no errors.
[03:27] <JohnnyBitcoin> any other log i should be checking?
[03:29] <Casper26> try cifs  username=msusername,password=mspassword,vers=1.0,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm  0  0
[03:29] <JohnnyBitcoin> will do
[03:29] <Bashing-om> JohnnyBitcoin: ' sudo mount -a 'shows what error ?
[03:30] <JohnnyBitcoin> that shows no error
[03:38] <JohnnyBitcoin> Casper26: Same issue with your line.
[03:38] <JohnnyBitcoin> I can see the mount, however there are no files in it
[03:39] <legoog> hi all would really appreciate some help all of a sudden when maximising my firefox window on one of my three screens only fills half the screen no matter what i do  (50" samsung plasma tv hooked up via hdmi)
[03:40] <legoog> this wasnt the case three days ago and the only thing that i changed was switching the primary screen, tried changing back but the maximised firefox window only maximises to half the screen
[03:41] <legoog> #40~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Nov 14 12:06:39 UTC 2019 GNU/Linux
[03:44] <Casper26> JohnnyBitcoin:  //servername/sharename  /media/windowsshare  your missing a forward slash before servername
[03:44] <JohnnyBitcoin> holy crap
[03:48] <legoog> sorted it out-turns out i had made the wrong screen primary thanks anyway
[03:52] <JohnnyBitcoin> well it almost works now
[03:52] <JohnnyBitcoin> I have to type mount -a after a reboot to complete the mount
[03:55] <JohnnyBitcoin> how do i mount all filesystem in fstab automatically upon each reboot?
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> !fstab | JohnnyBitcoin
[04:42] <Tempura> I'm trying to use authbind from a non-root account to avoid running my server as root. I've created /etc/authbind/byport/80 and can successfully bind to the port with "sudo authbind [program_name]"
[04:42] <Tempura> Without sudo it doesn't work, despite my non-root account having execution permissions on the /etc/authbind/pyport/80 like the man page for authbind says it should. Is this right? Should I just run it with sudo?
[04:42] <Tempura> Seems like running it with sudo defeats the point, especially since running the command with sudo works even if the non-root user doesn't have permissions.
[05:08] <swift110> hey all
[05:20] <wangledorf> hello
[05:24] <tomreyn> Tempura: an old article, but other than writing software yourself these are basically your best options for making privileged ports available to non priviledged processes:  https://debian-administration.org/article/386/Running_network_services_as_a_non-root_user.
[05:24] <tomreyn> hi swift110, wangledorf
[05:26] <Tempura> thanks for the article, I'll have a read
[05:30] <swift110> how r u tomreyn
[05:34] <tomreyn> swift110: doing fine, thanks. hope you're, too, but let's keep it to support here.
[05:42] <swift110> ok
[05:44] <OERIAS> hi
[05:44] <OERIAS> i need help with issue
[05:44] <OERIAS> my machine will not update to 19.04
[05:44] <OERIAS> sorry 19.10
[05:48] <OERIAS> hi
[05:50] <facedremer> what version are you upgrading from?
[05:52] <facedremer> OERIAS
[06:01] <OERIAS> facedremer, 19.04
[06:02] <facedremer> in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades does Prompt=Normal?
[06:03] <facedremer> and check if update-manager-core is installed
[06:22] <facedremer> OERIAS sorry, i forgot to tag you
[06:28] <Tempura> Yeah, authbind is just not working for me. I've read about 10 different sets of guides for it and they all show the same few steps which I follow and keep getting "permission denied". Very frustrating.
[06:36] <OERIAS2> facedremer, it states that permission is denied.
[06:39] <facedremer> are you running it with root privileges?
[06:40] <facedremer> OERIAS2 sudo do-release-upgrade
[07:22] <OERIAS2> facedremer, it has prompted the password graphically
[07:22] <OERIAS2> hopefully this works...
[07:28] <facedremer> OERIAS2 let me know if you need any more help
[08:01] <OERIAS2> facedremer, I'll let you know, currently it is still downloading packages
[08:23] <Rumen> hello
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> welcome Rumen
[08:42] <Rumen> I have a problem with nasty error message "too many open files"
[08:43] <Rumen> it is caused by "nvidia-settings -q gpuutilization...."
[08:43] <Rumen> any idea how to fix the issue?
[08:43] <Rumen> I searched the net for a solution, but none of the ways helped
[08:44] <Rumen> increased the ulimit - that help but temporary
[08:46] <Rumen> already try this https://askubuntu.com/questions/1049058/how-to-increase-max-open-files-limit-on-ubuntu-18-04
[08:47] <Rumen> the error dissapeared, but the computer freeze as a whole
[08:47] <Rumen> when removed the chages the computer don't freeze and the error appeared again
[09:52] <talsamon> hello! I am on 18.04 lts. I got no update since 10.12. Could that be? or is there an error.
[09:52] <tomreyn> Rumen: this article discusses your options https://www.robustperception.io/dealing-with-too-many-open-files - but you already seem to know those. ideally you'd identify the root cause of running into the "too man open files" issue since it should not normally occur on a desktop (i'm assking this is a desktop since you mention "nvidia-settings").
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> !uptodate | talsamon
[09:53] <talsamon> coorect 19.12
[09:53] <talsamon> I have tried all known commands
[09:53] <tomreyn> Rumen: you did not mention which ubuntu and kernel version you're using, whether you already looked for an existing or filed a new bug report on nvidia-settings (if you can reliably attribute this to nvidia-settings, filing a bug is probably a good thing to do).
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> talsamon: check your dpkg logs, maybe compare with a volunteers 18.04 here
 Yes it is a desktop. I just wanted to get a indicator about the GPU temperature and after installed the indicator (which works very well) this message appeared
[09:55] <tomreyn> talsamon: run both "sudo apt update" and "sudo apt -V dist-upgrade" on a terminal and ensure that neither report warnings or errors.
[09:56] <talsamon> dpkg logs sais last update 19.12
[09:56] <tomreyn> Rumen: i don't see how just querying the GPU temperature, even if it's once per second, should cause the process to run out of available file descriptors
[09:57] <talsamon> apt -V upgrade - ß  packages....
[09:58] <Rumen> My computer runs Ubuntu 18.04 LTS last kernel 4.17
[09:58] <Rumen> GPU refresh every 5 seconds
[09:58] <talsamon> tomreyn, what means volunteers here?
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> talsamon: volunteers are helpers on the ubuntu related support channels to help other users
[10:00] <tomreyn> talsamon: i didn't mention "volunteers", but it probably means the same as elsewhere.
[10:00] <tomreyn> Rumen: 4.17 isn'T an ubuntu kernel
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> talsamon: can you pastebin your dpkg logs please?
[10:01] <Rumen> https://pasteboard.co/INMshfa.png
[10:01] <tomreyn> what did you mean to state by "apt -V upgrade - ß  packages...."?
[10:01] <tomreyn> talsamon: ^
[10:02] <tomreyn> talsamon: does this return something other than 0? cat /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*} | grep -Fc security.ubuntu.com
[10:02] <talsamon> tomreyn, I have it in german:ö 0 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen
[10:02] <tomreyn> talsamon: i don't think i asked about this info.
[10:02] <Rumen> uname -r 4.17.0-041700-generic
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic bionic | Rumen
[10:03] <tomreyn> Rumen: this looks like it may have been a mainline kernel ppa build long ago
[10:03] <tomreyn> (those are unsupported)
[10:03] <talsamon> tomreyn, is the result of apt -V upgrade
[10:04] <Rumen> uname -a Linux ucc-Precision-WorkStation-T5400 4.17.0-041700-generic #201806041953 SMP Mon Jun 4 19:55:25 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:05] <tomreyn> talsamon: i was wondering whether "sudo apt update" or "sudo apt -V dist-upgrade" report any errors or warnings. what you posted is neither an error or warning.
[10:05] <tomreyn> Rumen: so this kernel is from summer 2018, bad.
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> Rumen: strongly adviced to run a current kernel for your ubuntu release
[10:06] <talsamon> tomreyn, yes I see no error or warning
[10:06] <Rumen> System is set to auto upgrade
[10:07] <talsamon> tomreyn, I upgraded 3 weeks ago from the last lts. Very late...  Maybe, this is an informatiion.
[10:08] <talsamon> tonyt, but I had update after the upgrade
[10:09] <tomreyn> Rumen: you may have manually installed this kernel at some point. and then it kept being used since the default kernel version for ubuntu 18.04 is 4.15. so any updates you get for the 4.15 kernel will seem older to grub, which will always prefer the highest kernel version.
[10:10] <tomreyn> so it keeps booting the 4.17 kernel
[10:10] <Rumen> https://www.howtogeek.com/436507/how-to-install-the-linux-5.0-update-on-ubuntu-18.04-lts/ "But, if you installed the original Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, you won’t automatically be updated."
[10:10] <Rumen> How to upgrade to 5.0 manually the 18.04 LTS
[10:11] <tomreyn> Rumen: you can either install the !LTSE kernel, or you can just uninstall the 4.17 one, and keep using the 4.15 one which continues to receive security patches.
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> talsamon: can you pastebin your sources.list please?
[10:12] <tomreyn> talsamon: if those commands report no warnings or errors and your system is configured to use the default apt sources, then it should be in good shape.
[10:13] <tomreyn> i assume you'Re not using good apt sources, though, since i think there were security updates for essential 18.04 packages within the past three weeks.
[10:14] <tomreyn> so i agree, you should share your apt sources
[10:16] <Rumen> installing 5.0
[10:16] <talsamon> lotuspsychje, https://pastebin.com/3MFmLhSr
[10:16] <Rumen> From this instructions
[10:16] <Rumen> https://www.howtogeek.com/436507/how-to-install-the-linux-5.0-update-on-ubuntu-18.04-lts/
[10:17] <lotuspsychje> talsamon: you still got xenial sources in there
[10:18] <talsamon> lotuspsychje, they are all commented out
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> talsamon: and apt doesnt give any warnings or so?
[10:20] <talsamon> lotuspsychje, gave no warnings
[10:20] <lotuspsychje> talsamon: did you doublecheck your software&updates settings, how your system updates?
[10:23] <talsamon> lotuspsychje, settins seems ok
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> talsamon: meaning?
[10:25] <talsamon> lotuspsychje, have a problem to explain it in english , I will try it in the german ubuntu channel thanks for answers
[10:25] <talsamon> tomreyn, thanks for answer
[10:39] <Rumen> Got error upgrading to Kernel 5  https://pasteboard.co/INMHJCk.png
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> Rumen: pastebin the output after: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade please
[10:53] <tomreyn> Rumen: looks like your system is configured to build realtek 8188eu kernel modules from source via dkms, and this is failing for the 5.0 kernel.
[10:56] <tomreyn> you may need / want to get a newer copy of https://github.com/lwfinger/rtl8188eu to build it against linux 5.0.
[11:02] <mohnish> When installing a new software or making some changes to your distro, is it a good idea to first try them out in a virtual machine? So that if something goes wrong, you're aware of the risks?
[11:06] <mohnish> Anyone?
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> !rootirc | dinis
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> mohnish: maybe a question for #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[11:11] <mohnish> oh, is it?
[11:11] <mohnish> okay
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> mohnish: or if you are using ubuntu, #ubuntu-discuss
[11:12] <mohnish> okay
[11:12] <ducasse> mohnish: it can't hurt, but the vm would need to be an exact copy of the host you intend to install on
[11:12] <mohnish> ducasse: Yes, I figured that'd be necessary
[11:17] <tomreyn> or you could use snapshotting
[11:18] <mohnish> oh, okay
[11:48] <Rumen> Same error after update && upgrade. Tomreyn is right that there is RTL8188EU installed. https://pastebin.com/2c5P8JbX
[11:49] <Rumen> But after I try to remove it I can't https://pastebin.com/HzzXRUi0
[11:50] <tomreyn> you need to remove version 1.0, not 4.17.0-041700
[11:51] <tomreyn> actuall yuninstall, not just remove
[11:53] <nlyx> does anyone have any idea on how to change the wifi band/frequency on ubuntu 19.10?
[11:53] <nlyx> Whenever I try to do that with iwconfig it just keeps resetting to 2.437GHz
[11:56] <tomreyn> Rumen: correction: i think you need to    sudo dkms remove 8188eu --all   which  should  automatically uninstall all 8188eu modules, then remove "8188eu" off dkms' registry. so you can then just checkout git again (or "git pull" on an existing copy) and follow the README on the repository again.
[11:56] <Rumen> Here is the full text of the update and upgrade https://pastebin.com/YtmwGHVe
[11:56] <Rumen> OK I will try  sudo dkms remove 8188eu --all
[11:57] <jeremy31> Rumen: sudo dkms remove 8188eu/1.0 --all
[11:58] <Rumen> DONE!
[11:59] <Rumen> now update && upgrae ... keep fingures crossed
[11:59] <tomreyn> you also seem to have an error on line 13 of /etc/default/grub
[11:59] <JoeLlama> is there a way to get a file to save to two locations automatically in ubunto?  Like, if I copy a file to one flash drive it will autosave to the second flash drive for backup??
[12:02] <tomreyn> JoeLlama: that's not a standard feature i am aware of. you can script such customizations.
[12:02] <JoeLlama> yeah script
[12:02] <JoeLlama> it would be cool if there was as feature that everytime a file is saved from any application it would also saved to a second and even third location
[12:03] <Rumen> Agaiin error this time is nouveau.modeset=0 https://pastebin.com/2vj7XsF0
[12:03] <JoeLlama> and not just copied from one flash drive to the next
[12:03] <JoeLlama> actually saved from source
[12:05] <jeremy31> Rumen, paste contents of /etc/default/grub to pastebin
[12:08] <ubntAdv0cat0r> Hello everyone, I am currently trying out ESM for 14.04 but it seems esm.ubuntu.com is not reachable?  I have a UA key but I get a timeout when trying to activate the ESM service
[12:09] <ubntAdv0cat0r> https://esm.ubuntu.com seems to refuse any connection attempts
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> best to contact canonical directly ubntAdv0cat0r
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> ubntAdv0cat0r: the volunteers dont have access or support to payed products
[12:11] <ubntAdv0cat0r> I see, I am only testing out with a free (personal) subscription so I don't have any possibility to open a ticket
[12:14] <tomreyn> ubntAdv0cat0r: https://ubuntu.com/blog/ua-services-deployed-from-the-command-line-with-ua-client
[12:14] <tomreyn> make sure you use the updated client
[12:15] <jeremy31> Rumen: Post URL from terminal>  cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:15] <Rumen> https://pastebin.com/ViVsSxzc
[12:16] <Rumen> https://termbin.com/58of
[12:17] <jeremy31> rumen, delete line 13 and add nouveau.modeset=0 inside the quotes on line 11
[12:17] <Rumen> The line is there nouveau.modeset=0 but why .... I don't rememmber to put that line there
[12:17] <Rumen> OK
[12:17] <jeremy31> RumeGRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="drm.debug=0xe plymouth:debug nouveau.modeset=0"
[12:18] <jeremy31> Rumen GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="drm.debug=0xe plymouth:debug nouveau.modeset=0"
[12:18] <ubntAdv0cat0r> tomreyn thank you but I am already using the updated client: 19.6~ubuntu14.04.3 0
[12:19] <tomreyn> i see
[12:19] <tomreyn> thats all i could think of
[12:19] <ubntAdv0cat0r> thank you anyway
[12:19] <ubntAdv0cat0r> when I try to enable the esm-infra service (ua enable esm-infra) it times out when connecting to esm.ubuntu.com to validate the credentials
[12:20] <tomreyn> if there was a bug tracker for snaps you could report it there
[12:21] <ubntAdv0cat0r> https://status.admin.canonical.com/ everything looks green
[12:30] <Rumen> OK DONE!
[12:30] <Rumen> uname -a Linux ucc-Precision-WorkStation-T5400 5.3.0-26-generic #28~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 18 16:40:14 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[12:30] <tomreyn> ubntAdv0cat0r: did you get an advantage token, yet, though? if not, there's https://auth.contracts.canonical.com/
[12:31] <Rumen> let's see if now the error "Too many open files" will appear again or no ....
[12:33] <ubntAdv0cat0r> tomreyn yep and already attached it, sudo ua status shows esm-infra as "entitled" but "disabled"
[12:33] <ubntAdv0cat0r> it seems all of the Canonical pages load extremely slow, at least on my end
[12:33] <ubntAdv0cat0r> maybe they have some server issues?
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> ubntAdv0cat0r: you could ask in #ubuntu-mirrors perhaps they can trace
[12:34] <ubntAdv0cat0r> lotuspsychje thank you for the hint, I will try
[12:50] <albech> happy new year. How can I enable round-robin on dns lookups. Looking at tcpdump is seems like only the first nameserver is queried.
[13:29] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:51] <MrPockets> hi!
[14:52] <EriC^^> hello MrPockets
[14:52] <MrPockets> I just answered my question. thanks though!
[14:52] <MrPockets> Any devs up in here this morning?
[15:17] <pragmaticenigma> MrPockets: Depending on your question for "devs" there is the #ubuntu-app-devel for Application Developers interested in writing/working on applications, and #ubuntu-devel for Ubuntu OS development. Note those channels require you to have your nick registered. Please double check the room topic to make sure you have choosen the correct one.
[15:19] <MrPockets> pragmaticenigma, understood.  I was just going to extend a sincere "thank you" for all their hard work, and mention that I enjoy using Ubuntu, and appreciate their contribution to this experience.
[15:19] <MrPockets> ^  So i'll just leave that there
[16:49] <Guest65529> Hello everyone! I just created a snapshot using timeshift, and it's created it in my root directory of my system in /timeshift
[16:50] <monhish_> And I'm willing to transfer that snapshot to my usb stick
[16:50] <monhish_> Do I have to format my usb stick to ext4 to transfer it or fat32 will work?
[16:54] <monhish_> Anyone??
[16:56] <sixwheeledbeast> snapshot?
[16:58] <EriC^^> monhish_: any filesystem should work i'd guess
[16:59] <monhish_> EriC^^: Are you sure?
[16:59] <EriC^^> monhish_: not entirely sure though, maybe someone else knows more, or if you can provide more details
[17:00] <EriC^^> monhish_: how do you load the snapshot? it's just a program while booted into ubuntu you load /path/to/snapshot? in that case any filesystem shouldnt be a problem as long as ubuntu has support for it
[17:00] <monhish_> Yeah, I guess
[17:01] <monhish_> I used the defaults of timeshift, I didn't back up my home folder
[17:03] <pragmaticenigma> monhish_: if any of the files in the snapshot are larger than 4GB you will have issues. either switch the drive over to exFAT or make it ext4 to reduce the chacen of an error
[17:04] <monhish_> It's okay if I have to format my drive to ext4.
[17:04] <monhish_> But, why is it gonna be problematic if its larger that 4GB?
[17:04] <monhish_> My whole snapshot is about 6GB
[17:05] <ducasse> monhish_: seems it uses rsync and hardlinks, so you'll need a posix fs
[17:06] <monhish_> ducasse: ext4?
[17:06] <pragmaticenigma> monhish_: this should help explain the differences and also has a good explination on the limitations of FAT32: https://www.howtogeek.com/235596/whats-the-difference-between-fat32-exfat-and-ntfs/
[17:06] <ducasse> monhish_: for example
[17:07] <monhish_> ah, okay
[17:09] <monhish_> pragmaticenigma: So, a folder can be bigger than 4GB, though, right? if that folder contains several files that sum up to be 4GB?
[17:09] <EriC^^> yeah monhish_
[17:10] <amosbird> Hi, how does IME like ibus and fcitx remember the last state of an input field?
[17:10] <monhish_> EriC^^: Ah, okay
[17:11] <pragmaticenigma> amosbird: I think you're going to need to provide more information and context for anyone to understand what you are asking
[17:20] <amosbird> pragmaticenigma: which part is confusing?
[17:47] <nokia3210> hello
[17:48] <nokia3210> pidgin for linux is absolute trash
[17:48] <OerHeks> is there a support question in that?
[17:49] <nokia3210> actually yes
[17:49] <pragmaticenigma> amosbird: The entire setence... What version of Ubuntu, what device, what is IME, what is fcitx? This channel is operated by volunteers, collectively we know a lot, but the more details you can provide the better
[17:49] <nokia3210> I can't get xchat to work
[17:50] <nokia3210> other than that, I can't get hdmi audio output to work either on lubuntu
[17:50] <pragmaticenigma> nokia3210: XChat hasn't been worked on in many years, it's recommended that you use HexChat
[17:50] <OerHeks> xchat.. sad to see it in the repos, it is EOL, discontinued, use hexchat, a xchat fork that is maintained
[17:50] <nokia3210> kk, thanks!
[17:51] <nokia3210> any idea about hdmi audio output?
[17:51] <nokia3210> tried reinstalling pulse audio
[17:51] <OerHeks> terminal: alsamixer # hit F6 to select device, choose hdmi
[17:51] <nokia3210> but the output simply doesn't show in the list of devices
[17:52] <OerHeks> maybe your gpu needs a driver, to enable hdmi output?
[17:52] <OerHeks> c/hdmi audio
[17:53] <nokia3210> shouldn't the newest gpu driver be included in the drivers update?
[17:53] <nokia3210> i've read on a few reddit posts that this is a common issue with lubuntu
[17:53] <nokia3210> and people have ditched it for other distros because of it
[17:53] <nokia3210> frankly I like it other than this
[17:54] <OerHeks> sure, ditch it, don't tell us your hardware and details :-D
[17:55] <nokia3210> it's an older laptop, upgraded it with an ssd and some ram
[17:55] <nokia3210> asus ul30a :]
[17:57] <nokia3210> i'll bbl later, thanks for the advice pragmatice and OerHeks!
[17:58] <instigator> Hello. I am running Ubuntu 9.04 in a VM to test old software. I wanted to install the curses.h dependency using 'sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev'. However, I get the error: "Couldn't find package..."
[17:59] <instigator> I am aware Ubuntu 9.04 is out of support, but is there a way to install old packages?
[17:59] <OerHeks> yes, old-releases part in this manual
[18:00] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[18:00] <OerHeks> there is *1* server available
[18:01] <instigator> OerHeks: I am running Ubuntu 9.04 in a local VM on my laptop, so I am not using it for production purposes. Is there no way to even install the older version?
[18:01] <instigator> *older version packages
[18:01] <pragmaticenigma> instigator: OerHeks just told you were to find it
[18:01] <OerHeks> yes, all packages ( latest) for 9.04 are there
[18:02] <OerHeks> edit sources.list with old-releases etc, and update
[18:02] <instigator> OerHeks: ok thanks ill check it out
[18:02] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Update_sources.list
[18:02] <OerHeks> and do the magic
[18:03] <OerHeks> have fun!
[18:13] <kinghat> if i want to move everything inside of a dir but not the top level dir i would just leave off the trailing slash? so data/dir_with_contents_to_mv data/dir_where_contents_go/?
[18:15] <pragmaticenigma> kinghat: mv the directory to the new path, recreate the original directory
[18:15] <pragmaticenigma> kinghat: so "mv data/contents data/relocated; mkdir data/contents"
[18:17] <kinghat> make the dir after its already created?
[18:18] <pragmaticenigma> kinghat: No, with the approach I described, you are effectively renaming the original directory to it's new name. Then you can create a new directory with the old folder's name
[18:22] <kinghat> mv data/conents/* data/new_location this work as well?
[18:22] <pragmaticenigma> mp
[18:22] <pragmaticenigma> no
[18:23] <pragmaticenigma> kinghat: I suggest you create yourself a sandbox and test your theory out, somewhere without criticle files that you can't afford to lose
[18:27] <pragmaticenigma> kinghat: https://askubuntu.com/a/172634
[18:29] <kinghat> i just did it in a test env and it seems to have worked as expected?
[18:29] <kinghat> unless im missing something
[18:30] <kinghat> i guess my last command above shouldnt have been contents/*..
[18:31] <rfm> kinghat, the problem with mv some/thing/* somewhere is it won't move hidden files/directories (names starting with '.')  this can be bad good or indifferent depending on what you want...
[18:31] <kinghat> mv data/stuffs/* data/move_here
[18:34] <kinghat> so use rsync 🤷‍♂️
[18:46] <pragmaticenigma> kinghat: or use a copy instead, and then remove the files from the original location once you have verified they have been successfully copied. IMPORTANT! There is a "dot" after the first path, it is intentional and needed for what you are trying to do: "cp -r /path/subfolder/. /path/"
[18:47] <pragmaticenigma> kinghat: If it is a large amount of files, I would recommend rsync as if the copy process fails, you can recover by re-running the command. It will automatically skip the existing files
[18:49] <kinghat> it is a large amount of files and i dont want to double the space
[18:52] <kinghat> so something like this? https://askubuntu.com/a/633051/868274
[18:57] <kinghat> im not going to do the --remove-source-files as i think i have enough space to make the move and then delete when completed
[19:00] <kinghat> rsync rha --partial --info=progress2 should do it i think.
[19:00] <avid_fan> kinghat: something like "mv src/* dst/" should move everything under "src/" to "dst" with the exception of files that start with a dot/period, as rfm mentioned.
[19:01] <avid_fan> That being said, I'm a big fan of using rsync to copy first and then delete
[19:01] <kinghat> ya im going to use rsync as i like this data 😅
[19:01] <avid_fan> "rsync -avP [source] [dest]" should work nicely.
[19:02] <kinghat> is there something with the trailing / and rsync to copy only the contents of the dir and not the top level dir?
[19:02] <avid_fan> Yeah, you can use "rsync -avP source/ dest/" and that should not create the "source" dir just whatever is under it
[19:03] <avid_fan> if you use "rsync -avP source dest" I believe it will create the "source" dir under "dest"
[19:04] <kinghat> is --partial only needed for larger files? im moving a ton of smaller files.
[19:05] <avid_fan> Needed? Probably not. I mainly use it out of habit.
[19:06] <avid_fan> Don't think it causes too much (if any) processing/transferring overhead.
[19:07] <kinghat> you dont set -r?
[19:09] <avid_fan> the "-a" includes that, and many other options.
[19:09] <avid_fan> "-a, --archive archive mode; equals -rlptgoD (no -H,-A,-X)"
[19:10] <kinghat> ah yes. i missed that part.
[19:10] <avid_fan> np
[19:24] <hcwool> hey everyone, my trackpad suddenly stopped working today on my 18.04 running razer blade stealth. currently writing this from the live USB that works without an issue. any ideas how i can go about debugging/fixing things?
[19:26] <hcwool> when i cat /proc/bus/input/devices my trackpad (Synaptics TM2438-005) marks itself as event16, but in my xorg log it shows up as event11 -- all other devices are the same (and on my live USB they are the same). could this have anything to do with it?
[19:26] <hcwool> (also happy nye lol)
[19:33] <salamanderrake> I have LD_LIBRARY_PATH set and export in ~/.profile and a bash script sourced with more changes to LD_LIBRARY_PATH but in my system, LD_LIBRARY_PATH is empy.
[19:34] <salamanderrake> How do I set enviroment varibables that the gui and terminal can both use?
[19:36] <salamanderrake> Ok, never mind, I guess I have to use /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf file
[20:26] <Apachez> Happy New Year! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3u3G_ks9Vs
[20:38] <bluefox83> this channel is unusually quiet
[20:54] <Krontab> exit
[21:06] <SoItBegins> Hey! Would it be possible to take an Android phone, completely remove Android, and install Ubuntu in its place?
[21:09] <kk4ewt> if the phone has been rooted (and not bricked) it may be possible to put an OS that supports Arm
[21:12] <OerHeks> !ubports
[21:12] <SoItBegins> Ah, thank you!
[21:12] <SoItBegins> I haven’t bought the phone yet so this is still a hypothetical, but.
[21:12] <kk4ewt> your phone, your brick
[21:12] <OerHeks> look at the specs and bugs with things not working.
[21:13] <SoItBegins> I’d probably buy and specifically choose a phone such that it would be at least theoretically compatible.
[21:13] <OerHeks> i have a nexus 5 for that, old android 6 EOL
[21:13] <OerHeks> and there is a 64 bit port now, IIRC
[22:08] <jhutchins> Once I've upgraded a 12.04 system to 14.04 lts, will it offer to upgrade to whatever the next lts is?
[22:09] <Chunkyz> Why not a fresh install jhutchins?
[22:09] <Chunkyz> Unless you want errors and stuff.
[22:10] <hggdh> jhutchins: you should be able to upgrade to another LTS. Of course, save your data before doing it
[22:11] <bprompt> jhutchins:   yes, but mind you that 14.04 is EOL
[22:11] <jhutchins> bprompt: Yes, but that's where 12.04 wants to go next, so I'm trying to work with it.
[22:12] <bprompt> jhutchins:   wait 5 more months and get 20.04 :)
[22:12] <jhutchins> Chunkyz: Preserving user customization.  Not my box.
[22:13] <jhutchins> bprompt: Well, with 12 she's getting blocked on some web sites because of an obsolete browser.
[22:13] <bprompt> yeap
[22:14] <bprompt> browser do updates every 2 weeks IIRC, that's true of chromium-based ones and firefox
[22:14] <jhutchins> bprompt: She has a birthday in February, we'll see what microcenter has for refurbs then.
[22:15] <bprompt> jhutchins:   how fast it the cpu?
[22:17] <bprompt> jhutchins:  you can always find some good deals at craigslist.com and install 18.04 on it
[22:18] <jhutchins> bprompt: Consider that it has the 2012 release on it.
[22:18] <Chunkyz> Bin it.
[22:18] <Chunkyz> :)
[22:19] <jhutchins> bprompt: I like being able to take things back at MC.  I've had really good luck with their refurbs, really good prices.  I used to build from scratch and do upgrades, but those were generic chassis,
[22:19] <bprompt> jhutchins:  so how fast is the cup anyway?  2ghz? dual-core? 64bit? 32bit? 3.2ghz?
[22:19] <jhutchins> Chunkyz: Yes, but not this month.  Paying for Christmas and property taxes and insurance &c.
[22:20] <jhutchins> 5320 bogomips
[22:20] <bprompt> 5320 bogomips? heheh
[22:21] <jhutchins> Core 2 duo, 2.66G
[22:21] <jhutchins> Web, email, a little word processing.
[22:24] <Bashing-om> jhutchins: I run dual core Athlon - xubuntu performs well.
[22:25]  * Chunkyz loves his AMD 5350 CPU. Still going strong...
[22:25] <bprompt> jhutchins:  hmm core2 duo, meaning is a 64bit machine 2.66ghz, and most likely SATAII type of HDD, hmmm you can just get an SSD on it, just a cheap 30gbs SSD, Ubuntu takes less than 10gbs on a full install, a 30gbs SSD can run you around $25 or so in amazon.com, just the SSD upgrade alone can manage even Ubuntu 20.04 or 18.04 just fine
[22:25] <Chunkyz> Cheaper than $25 for an SSD
[22:26] <Chunkyz> 120gb is like £15
[22:26] <bprompt> jhutchins:   now, if you can afford a bit more, I'd suggest a Samsung SSD, best in reliability, but smallest Samsung is 120gbs, and you can find them for $85 or so
[22:26] <Chunkyz> That's new, can get it cheaper second hand
[22:26] <bprompt> jhutchins:   but that hardware upgrade alone will make the machine perform about 10 times faster
[22:26] <Chunkyz> bprompt: Samsung ssds are too expensive
[22:27] <bprompt> since a lot of the slowdown is I/O operations
[22:27] <Chunkyz> Hmmm
[22:27] <Chunkyz> Nice name
[22:27] <Chunkyz> :)
[22:27] <bprompt> Chunkyz:  nope, they're about the same price as others, but reliability wise, they're the best on the consumer market
[22:27] <Chunkyz> No.
[22:28] <Chunkyz> I got my gigabyte 120gb SSD for £15 new. Can't do that with Samesung.
[22:29] <bprompt> eh? £15 is about $25US :P
[22:29] <OerHeks> 512 Gb microsd card is €35
[22:29] <bprompt> heheh, I got mine for around $90 :P
[22:29] <Chunkyz> bprompt: you can not get a brand new Samesung 120gb SSD for $25 lol
[22:30] <bprompt> eheheh
[22:30] <jhutchins> bprompt: I used to build about 200 a day, I'm pretty familiar with hardware.  It's also a matter of how much time I want to spend.
[22:30] <bprompt> Chunkyz:   I never said that hehehe, I meant you can find them, the smallest SSD is 30gbs, but Samsung doesn't make any, smallest Samsung is 120gbs, but you can find other brands like OCZ for $21US on a 30gbs SSD
[22:31] <jhutchins> The one problem with the Dell refurbs is that generic replacement parts often won't work.
[22:32] <bprompt> jhutchins:  well, my case being, you don't need to get another refurbished machine just to run 18.04, chances are the SSD expense will be cheaper than the new refurbished machine, assuming money is the issue
[22:32] <jhutchins> Yeah, a drive would be easy, SD would be nice, but with an 8 year old system I don't want to see other components fail.
[22:34] <bprompt> jhutchins:  well, is a no-lose situation though, let's say you get the SSD, and others components fail, the machine will work fast before they fail, and when they do, a few months later maybe, you can work on that refurbished machine, and the SSD you never lose it, since take it out, and put it in the new refurbished machine, is all
[22:35] <CrazyLikeAFox> I have a crucial SSD in this and in a desktop, 2gb mx500, and 240gb bx500 respectively
[22:35] <jhutchins> bprompt: Alternatively, I can get a refurb and neglect it for eight years.
[22:36] <jhutchins> bprompt: Like I said, Dell's don't often take generic components like MB or Power Supply.
[22:37] <jhutchins> Eight years is long enough that replacement Dell parts become more difficult, and it takes my time.
[22:37] <bprompt> jhutchins:  well, is a matter of budget and balancing, the core2 dua specs will work fine with the SSD on SATAII, if the issue is just speed to install 18.04, just the SSD alone can boost that pretty fast
[22:38] <jhutchins> bprompt: Yeah, the main CPU improvements at the desktop level have mostly been power use and parallelism.
[22:39] <CrazyLikeAFox> I just stuck an SSD in an old PATA laptop actually- that wasn't for any speed boost so much as PM
[22:39] <CrazyLikeAFox> really old 2.5" drive
[22:40] <bprompt> jhutchins:   most of the slowdown is I/O  operations, and the cpu always synchronizes with the slowest component, if the HDD can take as fast as the cpu can do or Ram can do, they both slow down to match with the HDD, however if the HD can keep up, the system flies
[22:40] <bprompt> s/if the HDD can take/if the HDD can't take
[22:41] <jhutchins> The SSD makes a difference.  We have GB internet, and my wife's c2 duo gets over 800MB transfer speeds.  The boxes with spinning rust cap out just  over 500.
[22:42] <bprompt> jhutchins:   I've ran Libreoffice suite on HDD, it takes about 10-12 seconds to open an app, on SSD is just 1second flat
[22:43] <jhutchins> Yeah, I'm starting to notice how long chromium takes to load on my desktop.  It gets the next ssd.
[22:43] <bprompt> same machine btw, same specs, just the I/O is far faster
[22:43] <jhutchins> Yup.
[22:43] <jhutchins> SSD on GB is nice.
[22:44] <bprompt> jhutchins:   if  you can, get a Samsung, nevermind the price, they're worth every dollar
[22:45] <jhutchins> I don't need more than 40G - 20 really.  Everything is on the NAS.
[22:45] <jhutchins> Don't see 40s even in refurb any more.
[22:45] <bprompt> alrity, be mindful, I had a 30gbs OCZ a long while ago, it went Kaput on me, no warning, from one day to the next, I was backed up and all, so no harms, but I'd have liked some early warning
[22:46] <CrazyLikeAFox> I think 120gb is the smalled I saw in any brand, 240gb seems more common
[22:47] <CrazyLikeAFox> $30 for a crucial bx500 240gb though
[22:48] <jayjo> does anyone know any good resources for getting started with bluetooth development on ubuntu? what are some good resources if I want to take bluetooth really seriously, and eventually contribute some fixes
[22:48] <bprompt> CrazyLikeAFox:   30gbs are a bit anachronistic these days, yes, since the price of SSD storage is below the $1 per Gb, you can get them for 0.85 or 0.75 per Gb, so making a cheap 30gbs for many may not be enough revenue, but you can find them, some offbrands
[22:49] <OerHeks> https://github.com/torvalds/linux/tree/master/drivers/bluetooth
[22:52] <jhutchins> bprompt: Yeah, 'cause we relly want to trust our data to offbrands.
[22:52] <bprompt> jhutchins:   just something to keep in mind, when shopping for one
[22:53] <bprompt> I mean CrazyLikeAFox is correct, most are 120gbs or higher these days
[22:58] <jhutchins> bprompt: Yep.
[22:59] <jhutchins> If I watch it, it just scrolls packages.  If I walk away it pops up a dialog box.
[23:00] <OerHeks> Wunderbar 2020!
[23:08] <rud0lf> Ausgezeichnet!
[23:09] <robertparkerx> why is znc not in 19.10 repo?
[23:09] <robertparkerx> I found in a YouTube video they're using apt-get
[23:14] <Bashing-om> !info znc eoan
[23:14] <Bashing-om> robertparkerx: ^^ universe repo.
[23:15] <robertparkerx> strange it doesn't find it for me
[23:16] <Bashing-om> robertparkerx: universe repo enabled in sources ?
[23:16] <robertparkerx> How do I check I thought it was
[23:18] <Bashing-om> robertparkerx: quicky ' grep universe /etc/apt/sources.list ' .
[23:21] <robertparkerx> I try to `sudo add-apt-repository universe multiverse` but it says
[23:21] <robertparkerx> Error: need a single repository as argument
[23:21] <OerHeks> 1 at the time ..
[23:21] <robertparkerx> 'universe' distribution component is already enabled for all sources.
[23:23] <Bashing-om> robertparkerx: ' apt list znc '?
[23:25] <szymon_g> aloha
[23:25] <robertparkerx> I found it now tyvm
[23:25] <robertparkerx> Now it wants me to create a non-root user to run it as
[23:26] <jhutchins> Ok, now we're back to idle.
[23:28] <szymon_g> i have some issues with tracker. i've modified it so it search recursively through Documents directory, it goes there without any problems, i've cleaned db and restarted the daemon but it doesn't seem to be able to find files, where mlocate finds them easily (using names only)
[23:28] <szymon_g> any idea what's wrong?
[23:29] <szymon_g> it's version 2.3.1, ubuntu 20.04
[23:29] <OerHeks> for 20.04 support, #ubuntu+1 please
[23:30] <OerHeks> it is not released yet.
[23:33] <szymon_g> ta
[23:56] <jhutchins> Yes, it did prompt me to upgrade to the next lts.