| tbs | when i mouseover it it says " 4 unattended notification(s) " | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| kc2bez | You can disable the notifications | 00:00 |
| tbs | there s no option like that, like others have | 00:00 |
| kc2bez | right click on the icon | 00:00 |
| tbs | there s no option for disablin g it also, at least i cant fin d | 00:01 |
| tbs | i guess it s in a groub with wifi icon | 00:02 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> in lubuntu? lxqt-notificationd | 00:03 |
| tbs | "status notifier plugin" i guess | 00:03 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> yes | 00:04 |
| kc2bez | you can remove it from the panel. | 00:04 |
| tbs | i don t wanna lose all plugin | 00:04 |
| kc2bez | it should only remove the status notifier plugin | 00:05 |
| tbs | "it" ? | 00:05 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @tbs [<tbs> "it" ?], the action of remove | 00:05 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> you could also disable the autostart of the demon. | 00:06 |
| tbs | lubot: i dont understand anything from HMollerCI | 00:06 |
| tbs | i thought u would continue saying somethings so i didn t ask:D | 00:06 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> sorry | 00:08 |
| tbs | what is it? | 00:09 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> there are 2 ways of removing notification | 00:09 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> one is to disable the miniaplication, notifications will run but wont appear. | 00:09 |
| tbs | two? | 00:10 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> The other option is to disable the demon (small app) that manage notifications. So no notiications will be "listened" when programs send it. | 00:10 |
| kc2bez | here is a link to the manual page for the panel which may also help. https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/5/5.1/lxqt-panel.html | 00:11 |
| tbs | lubot: i wann a do "one " how to do? | 00:11 |
| kc2bez | right click on the panel select manage widgets select status notifier and hit the - button to the right. | 00:13 |
| kc2bez | then close the window. | 00:13 |
| tbs | that way i ca nt see wifi icons too, like i said i dont wan na lose all plugin | 00:14 |
| kc2bez | WiFi is a different widget | 00:15 |
| tbs | i did it again now an d wifi disappared, also quassel IRC icon was there and it disappared too | 00:16 |
| kc2bez | hmm, perhaps it isn't a different widget. | 00:17 |
| kc2bez | I stand corrected | 00:17 |
| tbs | that aside, with ur code it went so well, installing lubuntu-desktop kc2bez | 00:20 |
| kc2bez | ok good. | 00:21 |
| tbs | it s n ot perfect cuz it in stalled 3 m ore apps | 00:21 |
| kc2bez | try this for the notifications: | 00:21 |
| tbs | and i really dislike kwallet | 00:22 |
| kc2bez | from the menu go to preferences LXQt settings desktop notifications | 00:23 |
| kc2bez | in desktop notifications click advanced | 00:23 |
| kc2bez | then set unattended notifications how many to save to 0 | 00:24 |
| tbs | @@ | 00:24 |
| tbs | it worked | 00:24 |
| kc2bez | excellent | 00:25 |
| tbs | i thought that but also thoughht it wouldnt work:D | 00:25 |
| tbs | i tried steam now again, it doesn t work | 00:36 |
| kc2bez | did you get an error? | 00:37 |
| tbs | it downloaded somethings but i can t open it at the end | 00:38 |
| tbs | sorry, i needed to look something | 00:39 |
| tbs | no, it just doesn t open anythin g | 00:40 |
| tbs | a window appaers about updating steam, then it disappaers in 3 sec, then nothin g happen s after that | 00:41 |
| kc2bez | It might take a bit. | 00:41 |
| tbs | i downloaded file from steam web site and did same with it | 00:42 |
| tbs | so i don t think it ll lunch | 00:42 |
| tbs | thanks for help guys, good night and sleep well^^ | 00:54 |
| kc2bez | Good night | 00:55 |
| === lubuntu is now known as Guest12640 | ||
| sappheiros | Is amarok okay for lubuntu 18.04? | 05:10 |
| tomreyn | it is available. and there are probably bug reports, did you look at them, yet? | 05:12 |
| sappheiros | no ... after i finish updating linux-firmware etc, i will go look for them | 05:13 |
| sappheiros | so available in the synaptic package manager means it's compatible? | 05:13 |
| tomreyn | while you use standard apt sources, yes | 05:14 |
| sappheiros | is there a music player you prefer? i am trying to organize my music library and add ratings (like the 5 star rating system) | 05:14 |
| tomreyn | though keep in mind that packages in "universe" are community maintained | 05:15 |
| sappheiros | i got used to windows media player and itunes decade(s?!) ago | 05:15 |
| sappheiros | so i got used to rating songs | 05:15 |
| tomreyn | i'm not the right person to discuss this with, don't use music players a lot. | 05:15 |
| tomreyn | (and i don't use lubuntu.) | 05:16 |
| guiverc | sappheiros, amorak is Qt4 based; so isn't available for 19.10 or later so don't fall too in love with it. | 05:27 |
| * guiverc just realizes it was likely removed before 19.10; removed from debian in 2017 | 05:28 | |
| sappheiros | ;( but i just installed it i thought | 05:30 |
| sappheiros | oh | 05:30 |
| sappheiros | you're saying it will be gone when i get a new computer? :( | 05:30 |
| sappheiros | i thought lubuntu switched to qt4 | 05:30 |
| guiverc | I used to use it, switched to clementine (though I do like audacious for GTK+ environments; so it's my 18.04 Lubuntu choice); Lubuntu uses Qt5 from 18.10 up, GTK+2 (LXDE) in 18.04 | 05:31 |
| * guiverc clarifies, used to use it, as in amorak | 05:31 | |
| sappheiros | wow, amarok's a pretty gorgeous player | 05:31 |
| sappheiros | or maybe i'm just tipsy | 05:31 |
| sappheiros | oh. | 05:32 |
| sappheiros | clementine hm? ... ... | 05:32 |
| guiverc | Qt5 was released in 2012; amorak was never upgraded from Qt4 to Qt5 so it's in it's last days | 05:32 |
| * diogenes_ uses DeaDBeeF for ages and won't switch to another player. | 05:33 | |
| sappheiros | oh. | 05:33 |
| sappheiros | thank you for this warning. | 05:33 |
| sappheiros | so amarok developers lost interest? | 05:34 |
| guiverc | I don't know sorry | 05:34 |
| sappheiros | i'm guessing clementine isn't compatible for 32-bit 18.04? ... | 05:53 |
| sappheiros | heyyy there are 32bit versions | 05:54 |
| wxl | !info clementine bionic | 05:54 |
| ubottu | clementine (source: clementine): modern music player and library organizer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.1+git276-g3485bbe43+dfsg-1.1build1 (bionic), package size 4359 kB, installed size 16994 kB | 05:54 |
| sappheiros | ooooooh clementine looks very nice | 06:13 |
| wxl | i use nvlc but i'm weird like that XD | 06:13 |
| sappheiros | https://www.codeproject.com/articles/109639/nvlc hmmmm | 06:17 |
| sappheiros | looks like a coding hobby to play music | 06:18 |
| sappheiros | like soem people build their own [other object] for fun | 06:18 |
| wxl | um https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/eoan/en/man1/vlc.1.html | 06:18 |
| sappheiros | oh. what. is nvlc a synonym for vlc in command prompt? | 06:19 |
| sappheiros | whyyyy | 06:19 |
| sappheiros | i gotta go to bed. :< | 06:20 |
| sappheiros | how to not need sleep any more | 06:20 |
| wxl | nope, it's a synonym for `vlc -I ncurses` | 06:20 |
| wxl | https://wiki.videolan.org/Documentation:Modules/ncurses/ | 06:20 |
| wxl | i like mate personally :) | 06:20 |
| sappheiros | @_@ | 06:24 |
| sappheiros | you | 06:24 |
| sappheiros | ^ | 06:24 |
| sappheiros | | | 06:24 |
| sappheiros | | | 06:24 |
| sappheiros | (my head) | 06:24 |
| guiverc | sappheiros, for x86 I usually opt to use `cmus` (terminal based music player) | 06:27 |
| sappheiros | guiverc: neat, but ... hm ... i'll check it out, thanks | 06:32 |
| wxl | ok, new game: every time someone mentions a command line music player, sappheiros has to drink | 06:33 |
| * wxl sips french sparkling apple cider | 06:33 | |
| * guiverc is jealous, no lovely apple cider | 06:34 | |
| wxl | :( | 06:34 |
| * guiverc got to have some last night though (dec 31) | 06:34 | |
| wxl | i was going to say, you should be well into the new year | 06:35 |
| guiverc | yep, ~17:35 | 06:35 |
| sappheiros | lol | 06:35 |
| sappheiros | i'm not necessarily opposed to that idea ... ... but i do have to work tomorrow ... | 06:35 |
| sappheiros | any idea what gstreamer plugin clementine is vaguely saying i'm lacking? | 06:36 |
| wxl | i didn't say WHAT you had to drink | 06:36 |
| sappheiros | :o | 06:36 |
| sappheiros | if the devil's in the details, then you are a saint | 06:36 |
| wxl | heh | 06:36 |
| sappheiros | maybe i will give clementine gstreamer1.0-x to see if that'll make it happy -- or is it a bad idea to install packages unnecessarily? | 06:37 |
| sappheiros | or maybe i will RTFM of clementine | 06:37 |
| wxl | it isn't uncommon that media players want toms extra packages for different codecs and such | 06:38 |
| sappheiros | (basically i can't play the tracks in clementine's playlist) | 06:38 |
| sappheiros | and i keep. getting a firefox error saying my profile is missing wtf :( | 06:38 |
| sappheiros | i think -- "Your Firefox profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible." another thing to copy paste into duckduckgo+-google | 06:38 |
| wxl | i've seen that happen if you remotely store your profile | 06:39 |
| sappheiros | https://askubuntu.com/questions/302891/firefox-profile-cannot-be-loaded-after-upgrade seems to be me after installing updates ~60 min ago | 06:40 |
| sappheiros | except 18.04 | 06:40 |
| wxl | look at ~/.mozilla/firefox/profiles.ini | 06:40 |
| sappheiros | it's got text | 06:41 |
| guiverc | sappheiros, re: streamer https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats but I note my Lubuntu doesn't have the package it says to include; I can play all, but I do have gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly installed | 06:42 |
| wxl | you could try to interpret it or you can pastebin it and i could do it for you but first based on that answer, you should check to see if the permissions are right | 06:42 |
| sappheiros | i think it's synaptic package manager triggering this error message | 06:42 |
| sappheiros | the Locked=1 for the first one does seem suspicious | 06:43 |
| sappheiros | hum, the string before .default-release differs between blocks | 06:43 |
| wxl | yeah locked is not good | 06:43 |
| sappheiros | my body yawning is wanting me to sleep i think | 06:44 |
| sappheiros | body: "go to bed dammit" brain: "but computer is funnnnn" | 06:44 |
| sappheiros | "there, now it says unlocked=1 ..." (just kidding) | 06:46 |
| sappheiros | "that's why your computer's so slow -- it's running on all those 1's and 0's. change them to 9's and 8's ..." | 06:46 |
| wxl | wow, and no one has mentioned a single cli music player | 06:47 |
| sappheiros | >_o | 06:47 |
| sappheiros | whelp, gooooodnight and good year everybody | 06:47 |
| wxl | sleep tight | 06:47 |
| * wxl tucks sappheiros in | 06:47 | |
| sappheiros | :3 <3 | 06:47 |
| tbs | hello, is there anyone? | 07:45 |
| tbs | kc2bez: hello, are you still here? so i can try to get m ore help? :) | 07:51 |
| tbs | hello, is there anyone? | 09:12 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> tbs: Be patient :) | 09:23 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Ask your questions and idle here | 09:23 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> You'll get an answer when someone can answer you | 09:23 |
| tbs | how can i install steam, i cant see it at discover, muon and synaptic gives errors and doesnt start install. | 09:30 |
| tbs | how can i install steam, i cant see it at discover, muon and synaptic gives errors and doesnt start install. | 10:20 |
| Ascavasaion | tbs - https://duckduckgo.com/?q=install+steam+on+ubuntu&atb=v174-1&ia=web | 10:27 |
| tbs | Ascavasaion: i also searched for it | 10:34 |
| tbs | but there s a bug when "veryfiying installation" so it cant start | 10:35 |
| Ascavasaion | tbs: Oh, then I don't know | 10:48 |
| Ascavasaion | Try asking in #ubuntu There are more people there, and I am pretty sue your problem is not lubuntu specific. | 10:48 |
| tbs | Ascavasaion: thanks for trying to help ^^ | 10:51 |
| guiverc | tbs, no idea if this is helpful (re: steam), but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve | 11:33 |
| tbs | hello, how can i remove steam complately from system? | 12:07 |
| tbs | hello, how can i remove steam complately from system? | 15:26 |
| diogenes_ | sudo apt purge steam | 15:27 |
| tbs | diogenes_: thanks, it worked^^ | 15:31 |
| tbs | btw do u know how can i run steam? it seems when i try to open it, it shows a window about veryfying installation than closes in 3 sec, then n othing happens, so steam doesnt opens | 15:33 |
| diogenes_ | tbs, i don't use steam, only wine. | 15:35 |
| diogenes_ | try to install steam through PlayOnLinux. | 15:36 |
| tbs | diogenes_: do u know maplestory? | 15:36 |
| diogenes_ | nope | 15:37 |
| tbs | okay, it s a game, i just wan ted to try my luck :) | 15:37 |
| tbs | dw about it | 15:38 |
| diogenes_ | you can play it through PlayOnLinux (maybe). | 15:38 |
| tbs | well, it s hard really | 15:39 |
| tbs | do u know about errror at discover? it says " be sure appstream configured right at ur system" and i can t see some apps there | 15:41 |
| tbs | diogenes_: ? | 15:41 |
| diogenes_ | tbs, i always use synaptic. | 15:46 |
| tbs | diogenes_: okay, thanks ^^ | 15:48 |
| diogenes_ | yw | 15:48 |
| tbs | hello, i need 32 bit dependences to install steam if i understand and remember right, can anyone tell me terminal code? | 16:47 |
| tbs | i found why i get error from Discover, it s cuz i use lubuntu with turkish language -.- i m trying now english installation and there s no error -.- so it s not an error actualy, it s something that make u force to use e nglish installation, i searched that bug at web and it seems this bug s living since 2 years at least. it s a known bug from past. but they dont solve this. i tried kde with manjaro, there wasnt this bug, but at ubuntu there is. i wonder | 17:27 |
| tbs | how much they care about other languages. cuz it s been at least 2 years or more.... | 17:27 |
| tbs | i liked lubuntu really but it seems it doesnt like me:/ | 17:29 |
| tbs | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cz75cMYHRM good presentation, i already respected to developers of lxde and lxqt | 18:10 |
| tbs | im back, i restarted lubuntu after making language turkish, and now i have bug on my discover ^^ | 18:46 |
| kc2bez | tbs: The best thing to do is make a comment on the bug you created yesterday indicating the issue is present with Turkish language. | 18:49 |
| tbs | kc2bez: i did it now, i hope they ll fix it | 19:13 |
| tbs | i watched that video | 19:18 |
| tbs | im not so good at english so i may understand wrong | 19:19 |
| tbs | are developers of lxde and lxqt are developers of lubuntu? | 19:20 |
| wxl | tbs: PCMan is responsible for driving LXDE, but stopped doing so when he came out with LXQt. there's really no one that works with both. | 19:37 |
| tbs | is that man who presents at video PCMan? | 19:41 |
| tbs | wxl: ? | 19:41 |
| wxl | yep | 19:41 |
| tbs | i like both kde and lx but i dont like to see kde apps at lxqt for some reason im not sure | 19:43 |
| wxl | regarding your turkish/discover issue, i wonder if it isn't somehow failing due to the lack of turkish translations in the appstream metadata. appstream can be a real pain as you'll see i've recently discovered: https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/fake-firefox-in-app-store/646 | 19:43 |
| tbs | @@ | 19:44 |
| wxl | kde has been developing on qt for a long, long time. they tend to produce the most mature results | 19:44 |
| tbs | as he said, i also see black icon when i try to install deb files with Discover | 19:47 |
| wxl | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=406654 | 19:47 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 406654 in discover "Pointless "Make sure that AppStream is properly set up on your system" message" [Normal,Confirmed] | 19:47 |
| wxl | you should add to that and explain that it only happens with turkish | 19:48 |
| wxl | or at least it hapens with turkish but not with english | 19:48 |
| tbs | kc2bez said same and i added it | 19:48 |
| wxl | i think you mean your launchpad bug | 19:48 |
| tbs | yeah | 19:49 |
| wxl | this is the upstream bug tracker; the one that the actual discover developers use | 19:49 |
| tbs | do u mean i also should report about appstream? | 19:50 |
| wxl | no i mean you should go to the url i sent you, create an account there if necessary, and comment on that bug with your experience including the versions of lubuntu and discover you're using | 19:51 |
| tbs | ahh u mean here https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=406654 | 19:51 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 406654 in discover "Pointless "Make sure that AppStream is properly set up on your system" message" [Normal,Confirmed] | 19:51 |
| wxl | you might also want to include the results of `appstreamcli status` since that will show you do have appstream set up | 19:52 |
| wxl | yes | 19:52 |
| wxl | i also notice in comment 9 they find an error about one of the particular metadata pools.. i would urge you to open a terminal and run `plasma-discover` and see if you see any similar errors in the output in the terminal | 19:53 |
| tbs | now again i need to create an account, why dont u guys use something like disqus:D | 19:53 |
| wxl | well (a) disqus isn't open source and (b) you're talking about two totally separate bug trackers which are not run by the same "guys" (and girls!) | 19:54 |
| wxl | could you please link me to your launchpad bug, by the way? i want to connect these two | 19:55 |
| tbs | sure, give m e a min | 19:55 |
| tbs | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-discover/+bug/1858011 | 19:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1858011 in plasma-discover (Ubuntu) "Discover app bug, cant find some apps" [Undecided,New] | 19:58 |
| wxl | what apps (tell me as many as you can) can you find in english that you can't find in turkish? | 19:59 |
| wxl | and does it also tell you "please check your connectivity????" | 20:01 |
| tbs | i added google earth yday but it seems discover removed it when i checked at english installation | 20:02 |
| wxl | i don't think it was ever there, personally | 20:02 |
| tbs | but still steam s not there for turkish while english have, i dont know much app but im going to try some | 20:02 |
| tbs | n ow | 20:02 |
| wxl | you won't find non-open source stuff there, nor will you find stuff that is ONLY distributed by the developer (this is true for all of google's stuff) | 20:02 |
| tbs | btw now im checking it, i also see krita with both colored and black icon at same time | 20:04 |
| wxl | i'm looking for a good example i can find so i can investigate the appstream data as i did with VLC on that forum post | 20:05 |
| wxl | wow slipping into turkish is hard. everything changes order O_O | 20:05 |
| tbs | tell me if u n eed to translate somethings:D | 20:06 |
| wxl | i think i figured it out | 20:07 |
| tbs | btw just reminding, i dont see featured apps, it s empty for me | 20:08 |
| tbs | there s a sentence for their place " please check your connectivity" | 20:08 |
| wxl | yep that's the one | 20:10 |
| tbs | what s it | 20:10 |
| tbs | tell me also so i can correct with my system ur fixing methot | 20:12 |
| wxl | well i'm not fixing anything; just confirming and investigating your problem | 20:13 |
| tbs | hmm | 20:13 |
| tbs | well, i hope i could help u a little so with ur help others can fix this long term bug | 20:13 |
| tbs | so i can use linux easier^^ | 20:14 |
| foo14 | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JNkJNcb9z7/ | 20:16 |
| wxl | ^ that's what comes out of running it in terminal | 20:17 |
| wxl | i'm pretty sure the kdeinit5 lines refer to failing to connect over http to the "featured" section | 20:18 |
| wxl | HAH! https://github.com/elementary/triage/issues/6 | 20:22 |
| wxl | that's NOT for discover but it's with another app store application with the same error AND it's turkish | 20:22 |
| wxl | and there's a related bug on the same app with the same issue and also turkish https://github.com/elementary/appcenter/issues/1161 | 20:23 |
| tbs | well, i dont know mu ch but the only couse i could found is changing languages, so my guess is some turkish words are not there to complate some new things, translate needs to be updated | 20:24 |
| tbs | btw, do u know peppermint? | 20:24 |
| tbs | peppermint os i mean | 20:24 |
| wxl | doesn't turkish necessarily mean using combining diacritics? | 20:24 |
| wxl | i don't really use peppermint or know much about it | 20:24 |
| wxl | i know of it | 20:25 |
| wxl | (aside: officially now i think turkish is the most amazing thing ever https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_bird_language) | 20:26 |
| tbs | haha:D | 20:26 |
| wxl | seriously, that is amazing | 20:26 |
| tbs | yeah, where they talk like that s near my city, Rize people have good history with also hawk and hunting with it | 20:27 |
| wxl | i would love to go to turkey | 20:28 |
| tbs | where r u from | 20:28 |
| wxl | frankly, i'd like to go anywhere. the world is an amazing place. but turkey is pretty remarable. i actually have a teapot from turkey my wife's aunt got me | 20:28 |
| wxl | united states | 20:28 |
| wxl | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_alphabet#Software_localisation <<< this might be our issue? | 20:29 |
| tbs | i have same idea as urs | 20:29 |
| tbs | btw we have diacritics, yes | 20:29 |
| tbs | like ş=sh , i think it s for making things easier | 20:32 |
| wxl | but unlike some other languages, i think all of the members of your alphabet are represented in individual unicode characters, right? | 20:32 |
| wxl | yep it is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%9E | 20:32 |
| wxl | harumph | 20:33 |
| tbs | idk about unicode, also i don t think https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_alphabet#Software_localisation this case s a big problem | 20:34 |
| tbs | what i guessed about s not about letters but not complated translations | 20:36 |
| tbs | btw if u r really think about visiting turkiye i can help | 20:37 |
| tbs | about peppermint i wanted to sugggest u 2 apps there to try cuz u r in developers team here | 20:39 |
| tbs | ice and advert blocker app of peppermint is so good imo so i wanted to tell u about them | 20:39 |
| wxl | we don't include ad blockers by default in firefox but they're available | 20:43 |
| wxl | firefox is increasingly doing better at dealing with tracking https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/enhanced-tracking-protection-firefox-desktop | 20:45 |
| wxl | that's bby default | 20:45 |
| wxl | and ice..... i'm not sure i'd want that to be a default thing. | 20:46 |
| tbs | by default? i also thought some ads i dont see i should have at firefox, i guessed this may be something n ew | 20:47 |
| tbs | let m e introduce u these two:D | 20:47 |
| wxl | yeah firefox is ALWAYS working on improving how it deals with privacy and tracking | 20:47 |
| tbs | ice s creating a realy good way for securty | 20:48 |
| tbs | with it u can open different firefoxes like they are at different pc | 20:48 |
| tbs | from start | 20:48 |
| tbs | with that forexample if u login ur google account with one ice, with ur normal firefox google cant track u | 20:49 |
| tbs | can track u sure but not ur email | 20:49 |
| cevacineva | this is my first time using irc | 20:49 |
| tbs | wellcome | 20:49 |
| wxl | welcome cevacineva | 20:50 |
| cevacineva | thanks | 20:50 |
| tbs | i use ice for my bank account, and emeails | 20:50 |
| wxl | tbs: google can track your ip though :) | 20:50 |
| tbs | yeah but actually i dont use much google:D | 20:50 |
| cevacineva | most companies that have log in systems and logs can track your ip. correct me if i am wrong | 20:51 |
| wxl | realistically anyone can | 20:51 |
| tbs | i just wanted to give an example, it sure "can" but we shouldnt make it easy for it | 20:51 |
| wxl | by accepting most terms of service you're necessarily allowing them to track you | 20:51 |
| wxl | but they're doing it in a "quiet" way that your browser can't protect you from | 20:51 |
| tbs | i have both outlook and hotmail i use for years | 20:52 |
| tbs | u know u cant log in both of them at same time, with ice u can:D | 20:53 |
| tbs | ice also make page like a fullpage app, it makes browser games looks better | 20:54 |
| wxl | i can see the value of it, but i don't see it as a "requirement" per se | 20:54 |
| tbs | u r right | 20:55 |
| tbs | i already didn t think u ll like it so much, i just wanted to show u somethi ng unique in all i saw cuz u r in team of developers here | 20:55 |
| wxl | thanks for that :) | 20:56 |
| tbs | ab out Advert Blocker, it blocks adverts starting from system | 20:56 |
| tbs | u know probably ads plugings at browsers increase their ram usage about %10 or more | 20:57 |
| tbs | advert blocker s a good idea for that meter i guess | 20:57 |
| wxl | here's the appstream data for steam http://appstream.ubuntu.com/eoan/multiverse/metainfo/steam-installer.html | 20:59 |
| wxl | compare to vlc http://appstream.ubuntu.com/eoan/universe/metainfo/vlc.html | 20:59 |
| wxl | note that under the "Name" there's a "tr" version for vlc, but there are no translations whatsoever for steam | 21:00 |
| tbs | i also guessed it after i saw english discover doesn t have problem | 21:01 |
| wxl | well, i'm guessing that's somehow related to the issue | 21:01 |
| tbs | i ca n use english desktop, b ut it s n ot comfortible | 21:01 |
| wxl | i have a theory that the problem may lie with the metadata on the featured ones | 21:01 |
| tbs | u know stea m needs 32 bit thin gs, right? | 21:02 |
| wxl | in an ideal world, anyone should be able to usee lubuntu regardless of their language. that is certainly a goal for us. we have a whole "globalizatoin" team | 21:02 |
| wxl | yeah. that fact created quite a controversy | 21:02 |
| tbs | if u can tell me how to do in stall it, i can try it with english system to install than con vert to turkish | 21:03 |
| wxl | well if you're using discover i guess the first step is converting to english -_- | 21:04 |
| wxl | ah i see discover can't handle it anyways | 21:05 |
| wxl | `sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386` | 21:06 |
| wxl | you need to do that first | 21:06 |
| wxl | then discover should work (if you're using english) | 21:06 |
| tbs | okay, wait some mins, i ll come back after restart | 21:07 |
| wxl | you don't need to restart | 21:07 |
| wxl | this isn't windows after all :) | 21:07 |
| tbs | im now using turkish system | 21:08 |
| tbs | so i should restart first, right? | 21:09 |
| wxl | you can just log out and log back in to swap languages | 21:09 |
| tbs | that was fast | 21:11 |
| tbs | btw nothing happened with this sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386, just wanted my pass and done | 21:11 |
| wxl | yep | 21:11 |
| wxl | that's the necessary part so now you can just install the steam-installer package | 21:12 |
| tbs | and now discover runs with n o bug -.- | 21:12 |
| wxl | wait | 21:12 |
| wxl | in turkish??? | 21:12 |
| tbs | no, i chan ged to english, i said | 21:12 |
| tbs | im going to install steam via discover then | 21:13 |
| wxl | ok | 21:13 |
| wxl | yep | 21:13 |
| tbs | why u guys use ubuntu but not debian itself? | 21:14 |
| tbs | i n eed som e tim e to download steam so i can ask things:D | 21:14 |
| wxl | the stable version of debian is behind the stable version of ubuntu; that's one of the major reasons ubuntu exists | 21:15 |
| tbs | what ab out rolling? | 21:15 |
| tbs | i read that it s not bad | 21:16 |
| tbs | i have read* | 21:16 |
| wxl | that's never been a model for ubuntu and given that it's based on debian which is also not rolling, it's extremely unlikely we'll ever see it | 21:16 |
| tbs | lxqt team s at lubuntu | 21:16 |
| wxl | lubuntu is ubuntu | 21:17 |
| tbs | but forexample manjaro has lxqt too | 21:17 |
| tbs | so are 2 lxqt desktop same other than ubuntu and arch? | 21:17 |
| wxl | i'm not sure i understand your question | 21:17 |
| tbs | or are you guys impruving things for mostly ubuntu? | 21:18 |
| tbs | i m ean im pruving lxqt desktop E | 21:18 |
| wxl | well our goal is ultimately to ensure that "lubuntu" works well together. when that involves a problem affecting lxqt overall, we do that work upstream with lxqt | 21:19 |
| tbs | b tw, i could install an d start steam-.- | 21:23 |
| tbs | just need to remember my pass:) | 21:23 |
| wxl | i can't help you with that XD | 21:23 |
| tbs | also i just remember, mint s also based on ubuntu, but doesnt have steam problem | 21:23 |
| wxl | the "problems" with steam started in 19.10. there's no mint version based on that yet. | 21:24 |
| wxl | mint is behind ubuntu | 21:24 |
| tbs | ahh | 21:25 |
| tbs | i ll recover steam pass tmorrow | 21:26 |
| tbs | well, i have now account at lubuntu web site | 21:27 |
| wxl | which one? XD | 21:28 |
| tbs | https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/fake-firefox-in-app-store/646 | 21:29 |
| tbs | finally found | 21:29 |
| tbs | this one u wanted me to comment about my bug report, right? | 21:30 |
| wxl | oh not that one :( | 21:31 |
| tbs | @@ | 21:31 |
| wxl | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=406654 | 21:31 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 406654 in discover "Pointless "Make sure that AppStream is properly set up on your system" message" [Normal,Confirmed] | 21:32 |
| tbs | ahh, i won dered why that ubottu shows that message so many times | 21:34 |
| tbs | i dont wanna create another acccount... | 21:35 |
| tbs | i feel like suggesting a n ew thin g to u :D | 21:35 |
| wxl | probably won't work XD | 21:36 |
| tbs | since u can develop, pls develop an app like disqus so we wont need to create this man y account:D | 21:36 |
| wxl | still won't matter. it's a matter of everyone accepting it which is unlikely | 21:36 |
| tbs | yeah, u r right | 21:37 |
| tbs | now there s only one step left but even u cant help me( pass of steam) | 21:37 |
| tbs | while u r here | 21:38 |
| tbs | lubuntu icon s one of the bests imo | 21:39 |
| tbs | i like how lubuntu looks | 21:39 |
| tbs | i dont like charging icon at right side of panel | 21:39 |
| wxl | thanks XD i have nothing to do with it, though; i usually take whatever comes X'D | 21:39 |
| tbs | ahh | 21:40 |
| tbs | i remem bered an other question | 21:40 |
| tbs | u know workspaces | 21:40 |
| tbs | with its widget on panel if u use mouse whell u can change desktops | 21:41 |
| tbs | i saw at archman os community release of openbox, i could change desktop with mousewhell on task manager widget | 21:42 |
| tbs | also those 2 desktops has different wallpapers | 21:43 |
| tbs | how can i do these at lubuntu? | 21:43 |
| tbs | https://sourceforge.net/projects/archman-os/files/stable-iso/2019-03/community/openbox/ | 21:44 |
| tbs | this s the os | 21:44 |
| tbs | i really want to do something smilar to this | 21:44 |
| tbs | i would use archman too actually but this iso s not stable imo | 21:45 |
| wxl | it's a rolling release and it may be in part due to that | 21:52 |
| wxl | anyways you can configure openbox in different ways | 21:52 |
| wxl | i HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE that "feature" personally but i can tell you how to do it :) | 21:52 |
| tbs | wait | 21:53 |
| tbs | dont tell m e if u don t like it | 21:53 |
| tbs | it would be so selfishly from me | 21:53 |
| wxl | you know what the best part of linux is? choices! just because i don't like something doesn't mean you shouldn't :) | 21:53 |
| tbs | i mean i wouldnt want to make u tired cuz of my sefish, not nessessery questions | 21:55 |
| wxl | oh it won't bother me any | 21:55 |
| tbs | i would want u to answer if u thi nk that way^^ | 21:55 |
| wxl | perhaps i expressed myself too strongly. it doesn't bother me to talk about. i just don't want it on my computer :) | 21:56 |
| tbs | i like it so i wanna try | 21:57 |
| wxl | i just got to find it | 21:57 |
| wxl | oh wait | 21:57 |
| wxl | it's already there | 21:57 |
| tbs | hmm | 21:58 |
| tbs | im glad u found it | 21:59 |
| wxl | https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-default-settings/browse/ubuntu%252Ffocal/src/etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/openbox/lxqt-rc.xml$545 | 21:59 |
| wxl | here's the openbox documentation on mouse bindings http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Bindings#Mouse_bindings | 22:00 |
| tbs | i dont know about codes... | 22:01 |
| wxl | it basically says when you're on the destop, going up goes to the previous desktop and down to the next one | 22:02 |
| tbs | idk where to write those | 22:02 |
| wxl | they're already there | 22:03 |
| tbs | what should i do then? | 22:03 |
| wxl | go to your desktop, move the mouse wheel and it should go to a different workspace | 22:04 |
| tbs | ahh | 22:04 |
| tbs | yeah, but i wanna do same on panel on task manager widget | 22:04 |
| wxl | given the number of contexts i'm not sure how easy that is | 22:05 |
| tbs | normally i use one workspace | 22:06 |
| wxl | i need to take off. talk soon :) | 22:07 |
| tbs | but if i could do this and could put differen t wallpaper on differen t workspaces i would use 2 workspaces | 22:07 |
| tbs | cya later^^ | 22:07 |
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