[00:00] <tbs> when i  mouseover it it says " 4 unattended notification(s) "
[00:00] <kc2bez> You can disable the notifications
[00:00] <tbs> there s no option like that, like others have
[00:00] <kc2bez> right click on the icon
[00:01] <tbs> there s  no option  for disablin g it also, at least i cant fin d
[00:02] <tbs> i guess it s in a groub with wifi icon
 in lubuntu? lxqt-notificationd
[00:03] <tbs> "status notifier plugin" i guess
 yes
[00:04] <kc2bez> you can remove it from the panel.
[00:04] <tbs> i don t wanna lose all plugin
[00:05] <kc2bez> it should only remove the status notifier plugin
[00:05] <tbs> "it" ?
 @tbs [<tbs> "it" ?], the action of remove
 you could also disable the autostart of the demon.
[00:06] <tbs> lubot: i dont understand anything from HMollerCI
[00:06] <tbs> i thought u would continue saying somethings so i didn t ask:D
 sorry
[00:09] <tbs> what is it?
 there are 2 ways of removing notification
 one is to disable the miniaplication, notifications will run but wont appear.
[00:10] <tbs> two?
 The other option is to disable the demon (small app) that manage notifications. So no notiications will be "listened" when programs send it.
[00:11] <kc2bez> here is a link to the manual page for the panel which may also help. https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/5/5.1/lxqt-panel.html
[00:11] <tbs> lubot: i wann a do "one " how to do?
[00:13] <kc2bez> right click on the panel select manage widgets select status notifier and hit the - button to the right.
[00:13] <kc2bez> then close the window.
[00:14] <tbs> that way i ca nt see wifi icons too, like i said i dont wan na lose all plugin
[00:15] <kc2bez> WiFi is a different widget
[00:16] <tbs> i did it again   now an d wifi disappared, also quassel IRC icon was there and it disappared too
[00:17] <kc2bez> hmm, perhaps it isn't a different widget.
[00:17] <kc2bez> I stand corrected
[00:20] <tbs> that aside, with ur code it went so well, installing lubuntu-desktop kc2bez
[00:21] <kc2bez> ok good.
[00:21] <tbs> it s n ot perfect cuz it in stalled 3 m ore apps
[00:21] <kc2bez> try this for the notifications:
[00:22] <tbs> and i really dislike kwallet
[00:23] <kc2bez> from the menu go to preferences LXQt settings desktop notifications
[00:23] <kc2bez> in desktop notifications click advanced
[00:24] <kc2bez> then set unattended notifications how many to save to 0
[00:24] <tbs> @@
[00:24] <tbs> it worked
[00:25] <kc2bez> excellent
[00:25] <tbs> i thought that but also thoughht it wouldnt work:D
[00:36] <tbs> i tried steam  now again, it doesn t work
[00:37] <kc2bez> did you get an error?
[00:38] <tbs> it downloaded somethings but i can t open it at the end
[00:39] <tbs> sorry, i needed to look something
[00:40] <tbs> no, it just doesn t open  anythin g
[00:41] <tbs> a window appaers about updating steam, then it disappaers in 3 sec, then   nothin g happen s after that
[00:41] <kc2bez> It might take a bit.
[00:42] <tbs> i downloaded file from steam web site and did same with it
[00:42] <tbs> so i don t think it ll lunch
[00:54] <tbs>  thanks for help guys, good  night and sleep well^^
[00:55] <kc2bez> Good night
[05:10] <sappheiros> Is amarok okay for lubuntu 18.04?
[05:12] <tomreyn> it is available. and there are probably bug reports, did you look at them, yet?
[05:13] <sappheiros> no ... after i finish updating linux-firmware etc, i will go look for them
[05:13] <sappheiros> so available in the synaptic package manager means it's compatible?
[05:14] <tomreyn> while you use standard apt sources, yes
[05:14] <sappheiros> is there a music player you prefer? i am trying to organize my music library and add ratings (like the 5 star rating system)
[05:15] <tomreyn> though keep in mind that packages in "universe" are community maintained
[05:15] <sappheiros> i got used to windows media player and itunes decade(s?!) ago
[05:15] <sappheiros> so i got used to rating songs
[05:15] <tomreyn> i'm not the right person to discuss this with, don't use music players a lot.
[05:16] <tomreyn> (and i don't use lubuntu.)
[05:27] <guiverc> sappheiros, amorak is Qt4 based; so isn't available for 19.10 or later so don't fall too in love with it.
[05:28]  * guiverc just realizes it was likely removed before 19.10; removed from debian in 2017
[05:30] <sappheiros> ;( but i just installed it i thought
[05:30] <sappheiros> oh
[05:30] <sappheiros> you're saying it will be gone when i get a new computer? :(
[05:30] <sappheiros> i thought lubuntu switched to qt4
[05:31] <guiverc> I used to use it, switched to clementine (though I do like audacious for GTK+ environments; so it's my 18.04 Lubuntu choice);  Lubuntu uses Qt5 from 18.10 up, GTK+2 (LXDE) in 18.04
[05:31]  * guiverc clarifies, used to use it, as in amorak
[05:31] <sappheiros> wow, amarok's a pretty gorgeous player
[05:31] <sappheiros> or maybe i'm just tipsy
[05:32] <sappheiros> oh.
[05:32] <sappheiros> clementine hm? ... ...
[05:32] <guiverc> Qt5 was released in 2012; amorak was never upgraded from Qt4 to Qt5 so it's in it's last days
[05:33]  * diogenes_ uses DeaDBeeF for ages and won't switch to another player.
[05:33] <sappheiros> oh.
[05:33] <sappheiros> thank you for this warning.
[05:34] <sappheiros> so amarok developers lost interest?
[05:34] <guiverc> I don't know sorry
[05:53] <sappheiros> i'm guessing clementine isn't compatible for 32-bit 18.04? ...
[05:54] <sappheiros> heyyy there are 32bit versions
[05:54] <wxl> !info clementine bionic
[06:13] <sappheiros> ooooooh clementine looks very nice
[06:13] <wxl> i use nvlc but i'm weird like that XD
[06:17] <sappheiros> https://www.codeproject.com/articles/109639/nvlc hmmmm
[06:18] <sappheiros> looks like a coding hobby to play music
[06:18] <sappheiros> like soem people build their own [other object] for fun
[06:18] <wxl> um https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/eoan/en/man1/vlc.1.html
[06:19] <sappheiros> oh. what. is nvlc a synonym for vlc in command prompt?
[06:19] <sappheiros> whyyyy
[06:20] <sappheiros> i gotta go to bed. :<
[06:20] <sappheiros> how to not need sleep any more
[06:20] <wxl> nope, it's a synonym for `vlc -I ncurses`
[06:20] <wxl> https://wiki.videolan.org/Documentation:Modules/ncurses/
[06:20] <wxl> i like mate personally :)
[06:24] <sappheiros> @_@
[06:24] <sappheiros> you
[06:24] <sappheiros> ^
[06:24] <sappheiros> |
[06:24] <sappheiros> |
[06:24] <sappheiros> (my head)
[06:27] <guiverc> sappheiros, for x86 I usually opt to use `cmus` (terminal based music player)
[06:32] <sappheiros> guiverc: neat, but ... hm ... i'll check it out, thanks
[06:33] <wxl> ok, new game: every time someone mentions a command line music player, sappheiros has to drink
[06:33]  * wxl sips french sparkling apple cider
[06:34]  * guiverc is jealous, no lovely apple cider
[06:34] <wxl> :(
[06:34]  * guiverc got to have some last night though (dec 31)
[06:35] <wxl> i was going to say, you should be well into the new year
[06:35] <guiverc> yep, ~17:35
[06:35] <sappheiros> lol
[06:35] <sappheiros> i'm not necessarily opposed to that idea ... ... but i do have to work tomorrow ...
[06:36] <sappheiros> any idea what gstreamer plugin clementine is vaguely saying i'm lacking?
[06:36] <wxl> i didn't say WHAT you had to drink
[06:36] <sappheiros> :o
[06:36] <sappheiros> if the devil's in the details, then you are a saint
[06:36] <wxl> heh
[06:37] <sappheiros> maybe i will give clementine gstreamer1.0-x to see if that'll make it happy -- or is it a bad idea to install packages unnecessarily?
[06:37] <sappheiros> or maybe i will RTFM of clementine
[06:38] <wxl> it isn't uncommon that media players want toms extra packages for different codecs and such
[06:38] <sappheiros> (basically i can't play the tracks in clementine's playlist)
[06:38] <sappheiros> and i keep. getting a firefox error saying my profile is missing wtf :(
[06:38] <sappheiros> i think -- "Your Firefox profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible." another thing to copy paste into duckduckgo+-google
[06:39] <wxl> i've seen that happen if you remotely store your profile
[06:40] <sappheiros> https://askubuntu.com/questions/302891/firefox-profile-cannot-be-loaded-after-upgrade seems to be me after installing updates ~60 min ago
[06:40] <sappheiros> except 18.04
[06:40] <wxl> look at ~/.mozilla/firefox/profiles.ini
[06:41] <sappheiros> it's got text
[06:42] <guiverc> sappheiros, re: streamer https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  but I note my Lubuntu doesn't have the package it says to include; I can play all, but I do have gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly installed
[06:42] <wxl> you could try to interpret it or you can pastebin it and i could do it for you but first based on that answer, you should check to see if the permissions are right
[06:42] <sappheiros> i think it's synaptic package manager triggering this error message
[06:43] <sappheiros> the Locked=1 for the first one does seem suspicious
[06:43] <sappheiros> hum, the string before .default-release differs between blocks
[06:43] <wxl> yeah locked is not good
[06:44] <sappheiros> my body yawning is wanting me to sleep i think
[06:44] <sappheiros> body: "go to bed dammit" brain: "but computer is funnnnn"
[06:46] <sappheiros> "there, now it says unlocked=1 ..." (just kidding)
[06:46] <sappheiros> "that's why your computer's so slow -- it's running on all those 1's and 0's. change them to 9's and 8's ..."
[06:47] <wxl> wow, and no one has mentioned a single cli music player
[06:47] <sappheiros> >_o
[06:47] <sappheiros> whelp, gooooodnight and good year everybody
[06:47] <wxl> sleep tight
[06:47]  * wxl tucks sappheiros in
[06:47] <sappheiros> :3 <3
[07:45] <tbs> hello, is there anyone?
[07:51] <tbs> kc2bez: hello, are you still here? so i can  try to get m ore help? :)
[09:12] <tbs> hello, is there anyone?
 tbs: Be patient :)
 Ask your questions and idle here
 You'll get an answer when someone can answer you
[09:30] <tbs> how can  i install steam, i cant see it at discover, muon and synaptic gives errors and doesnt start install.
[10:20] <tbs> how can  i install steam, i cant see it at discover, muon and synaptic gives errors and doesnt start install.
[10:27] <Ascavasaion> tbs - https://duckduckgo.com/?q=install+steam+on+ubuntu&atb=v174-1&ia=web
[10:34] <tbs> Ascavasaion: i also searched for it
[10:35] <tbs> but there s a bug when "veryfiying installation" so it cant start
[10:48] <Ascavasaion> tbs: Oh, then I don't know
[10:48] <Ascavasaion> Try asking in #ubuntu  There are more people there, and I am pretty sue your problem is not lubuntu specific.
[10:51] <tbs> Ascavasaion: thanks for trying to help  ^^
[11:33] <guiverc> tbs, no idea if this is helpful (re: steam), but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve
[12:07] <tbs> hello, how can i remove steam complately from system?
[15:26] <tbs> hello, how can i remove steam complately from system?
[15:27] <diogenes_> sudo apt purge steam
[15:31] <tbs> diogenes_: thanks, it worked^^
[15:33] <tbs> btw do u know how can i run steam? it seems when i try to open it, it shows a window about veryfying installation than  closes in 3 sec, then n othing happens, so steam doesnt opens
[15:35] <diogenes_> tbs, i don't use steam, only wine.
[15:36] <diogenes_> try to install steam through PlayOnLinux.
[15:36] <tbs> diogenes_: do u know maplestory?
[15:37] <diogenes_> nope
[15:37] <tbs> okay, it s a game, i just wan ted to try my luck :)
[15:38] <tbs> dw about it
[15:38] <diogenes_> you can play it through PlayOnLinux (maybe).
[15:39] <tbs> well, it s hard really
[15:41] <tbs> do u know about errror at discover? it says " be sure appstream configured right at ur system" and i can t see some apps there
[15:41] <tbs> diogenes_: ?
[15:46] <diogenes_> tbs, i always use synaptic.
[15:48] <tbs> diogenes_: okay, thanks ^^
[15:48] <diogenes_> yw
[16:47] <tbs> hello, i need 32 bit dependences to install steam if i understand and remember right,  can  anyone tell me terminal code?
[17:27] <tbs> i found why i get error from Discover, it s cuz i use lubuntu with turkish language -.- i m trying now english installation and there s no error -.- so it s not an  error actualy, it s something that make u force to use e nglish installation, i searched that bug at web  and it seems this bug s living since 2 years at least. it s a known bug from past. but they dont solve this. i tried kde with manjaro, there wasnt this bug, but at ubuntu there is. i wonder
[17:27] <tbs>  how much they care about other languages. cuz it s been  at least 2 years or more....
[17:29] <tbs> i liked lubuntu really but it seems it doesnt like me:/
[18:10] <tbs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cz75cMYHRM good presentation, i already respected to developers of lxde and lxqt
[18:46] <tbs> im  back, i restarted lubuntu after making language turkish, and now i have bug on my discover ^^
[18:49] <kc2bez> tbs: The best thing to do is make a comment on the bug you created yesterday indicating the issue is present with Turkish language.
[19:13] <tbs> kc2bez: i did it now, i hope they ll fix it
[19:18] <tbs> i watched that video
[19:19] <tbs> im not so good at english so i may understand wrong
[19:20] <tbs> are developers of lxde and lxqt are developers of lubuntu?
[19:37] <wxl> tbs: PCMan is responsible for driving LXDE, but stopped doing so when he came out with LXQt. there's really no one that works with both.
[19:41] <tbs> is that man who presents at video PCMan?
[19:41] <tbs> wxl: ?
[19:41] <wxl> yep
[19:43] <tbs> i like both kde and lx but i dont like to see kde apps at lxqt  for some reason im  not sure
[19:43] <wxl> regarding your turkish/discover issue, i wonder if it isn't somehow failing due to the lack of turkish translations in the appstream metadata. appstream can be a real pain as you'll see i've recently discovered: https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/fake-firefox-in-app-store/646
[19:44] <tbs> @@
[19:44] <wxl> kde has been developing on qt for a long, long time. they tend to produce the most mature results
[19:47] <tbs> as he said, i also see black icon  when i try to install deb files with Discover
[19:47] <wxl> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=406654
[19:48] <wxl> you should add to that and explain that it only happens with turkish
[19:48] <wxl> or at least it hapens with turkish but not with english
[19:48] <tbs> kc2bez said same and i added it
[19:48] <wxl> i think you mean your launchpad bug
[19:49] <tbs> yeah
[19:49] <wxl> this is the upstream bug tracker; the one that the actual discover developers use
[19:50] <tbs> do u mean i also should report about appstream?
[19:51] <wxl> no i mean you should go to the url i sent you, create an account there if necessary, and comment on that bug with your experience including the versions of lubuntu and discover you're using
[19:51] <tbs> ahh u mean  here https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=406654
[19:52] <wxl> you might also want to include the results of `appstreamcli status` since that will show you do have appstream set up
[19:52] <wxl> yes
[19:53] <wxl> i also notice in comment 9 they find an error about one of the particular metadata pools.. i would urge you to open a terminal and run `plasma-discover` and see if you see any similar errors in the output in the terminal
[19:53] <tbs>  now again  i need to create an account, why dont u guys use something like disqus:D
[19:54] <wxl> well (a) disqus isn't open source and (b) you're talking about two totally separate bug trackers which are not run by the same "guys" (and girls!)
[19:55] <wxl> could you please link me to your launchpad bug, by the way? i want to connect these two
[19:55] <tbs> sure, give m e a min
[19:58] <tbs> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-discover/+bug/1858011
[19:59] <wxl> what apps (tell me as many as you can) can you find in english that you can't find in turkish?
[20:01] <wxl> and does it also tell you "please check your connectivity????"
[20:02] <tbs> i added google earth yday  but it seems discover removed it when i  checked at english installation
[20:02] <wxl> i don't think it was ever there, personally
[20:02] <tbs> but still steam s not there for turkish while english have, i dont know much app  but im  going to try some
[20:02] <tbs> n ow
[20:02] <wxl> you won't find non-open source stuff there, nor will you find stuff that is ONLY distributed by the developer (this is true for all of google's stuff)
[20:04] <tbs> btw now im  checking it, i also see krita with both colored and black icon at same time
[20:05] <wxl> i'm looking for a good example i can find so i can investigate the appstream data as i did with VLC on that forum post
[20:05] <wxl> wow slipping into turkish is hard. everything changes order O_O
[20:06] <tbs> tell me if u n eed to translate somethings:D
[20:07] <wxl> i think i figured it out
[20:08] <tbs> btw just reminding, i dont see featured apps, it s empty for me
[20:08] <tbs> there s a sentence for their place " please check your connectivity"
[20:10] <wxl> yep that's the one
[20:10] <tbs> what s it
[20:12] <tbs> tell me also so i can correct with my system ur fixing methot
[20:13] <wxl> well i'm not fixing anything; just confirming and investigating your problem
[20:13] <tbs> hmm
[20:13] <tbs> well, i hope i could help u a little so with ur help others can fix this long term bug
[20:14] <tbs> so i can use linux easier^^
[20:16] <foo14> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JNkJNcb9z7/
[20:17] <wxl> ^ that's what comes out of running it in terminal
[20:18] <wxl> i'm pretty sure the kdeinit5 lines refer to failing to connect over http to the "featured" section
[20:22] <wxl> HAH! https://github.com/elementary/triage/issues/6
[20:22] <wxl> that's NOT for discover but it's with another app store application with the same error AND it's turkish
[20:23] <wxl> and there's a related bug on the same app with the same issue and also turkish https://github.com/elementary/appcenter/issues/1161
[20:24] <tbs> well, i dont know mu ch but the only couse i could found is changing languages, so my guess is some turkish words are not there to complate some new things, translate needs to be updated
[20:24] <tbs>  btw, do u know peppermint?
[20:24] <tbs> peppermint os i mean
[20:24] <wxl> doesn't turkish necessarily mean using combining diacritics?
[20:24] <wxl> i don't really use peppermint or know much about it
[20:25] <wxl> i know of it
[20:26] <wxl> (aside: officially now i think turkish is the most amazing thing ever https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_bird_language)
[20:26] <tbs> haha:D
[20:26] <wxl> seriously, that is amazing
[20:27] <tbs> yeah, where they talk like that s near my city, Rize people have good history with also hawk and hunting with it
[20:28] <wxl> i would love to go to turkey
[20:28] <tbs> where r u from
[20:28] <wxl> frankly, i'd like to go anywhere. the world is an amazing place. but turkey is pretty remarable. i actually have a teapot from turkey my wife's aunt got me
[20:28] <wxl> united states
[20:29] <wxl> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_alphabet#Software_localisation <<< this might be our issue?
[20:29] <tbs> i have same idea as urs
[20:29] <tbs> btw we have diacritics, yes
[20:32] <tbs> like ş=sh  , i think it s for making things easier
[20:32] <wxl> but unlike some other languages, i think all of the members of your alphabet are represented in individual unicode characters, right?
[20:32] <wxl> yep it is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%9E
[20:33] <wxl> harumph
[20:34] <tbs> idk about unicode, also i don t think https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_alphabet#Software_localisation  this case s a big problem
[20:36] <tbs> what i guessed about s not about letters but not complated translations
[20:37] <tbs> btw if u r really think about visiting turkiye i can help
[20:39] <tbs> about peppermint i wanted to sugggest u 2 apps there to try cuz u r in  developers team here
[20:39] <tbs> ice and advert blocker app of peppermint is so good imo so i wanted to tell u about them
[20:43] <wxl> we don't include ad blockers by default in firefox but they're available
[20:45] <wxl> firefox is increasingly doing better at dealing with tracking https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/enhanced-tracking-protection-firefox-desktop
[20:45] <wxl> that's bby default
[20:46] <wxl> and ice..... i'm not sure i'd want that to be a default thing.
[20:47] <tbs> by default? i also thought some ads i dont see i should have at firefox, i guessed this may be something n ew
[20:47] <tbs> let m e introduce u these two:D
[20:47] <wxl> yeah firefox is ALWAYS working on improving how it deals with privacy and tracking
[20:48] <tbs> ice s creating a realy good way for securty
[20:48] <tbs> with it u can open different firefoxes like they are at different pc
[20:48] <tbs> from start
[20:49] <tbs> with that forexample if u login ur google account with one ice, with ur normal firefox google cant track u
[20:49] <tbs> can  track u sure but not ur email
[20:49] <cevacineva> this is my first time using irc
[20:49] <tbs> wellcome
[20:50] <wxl> welcome cevacineva
[20:50] <cevacineva> thanks
[20:50] <tbs> i use ice for my bank account, and emeails
[20:50] <wxl> tbs: google can track your ip though :)
[20:50] <tbs> yeah but actually i dont use much google:D
[20:51] <cevacineva> most companies that have log in systems and logs can track your ip. correct me if i am wrong
[20:51] <wxl> realistically anyone can
[20:51] <tbs> i just wanted to give an  example, it sure "can"  but we shouldnt make it easy for it
[20:51] <wxl> by accepting most terms of service you're necessarily allowing them to track you
[20:51] <wxl> but they're doing it in a "quiet" way that your browser can't protect you from
[20:52] <tbs> i have both outlook and hotmail i use for years
[20:53] <tbs> u know u cant log in  both of them at same time, with ice u can:D
[20:54] <tbs> ice also make page like a fullpage app, it makes browser games looks better
[20:54] <wxl> i can see the value of it, but i don't see it as a "requirement" per se
[20:55] <tbs> u r right
[20:55] <tbs> i already didn t think u ll like it so much, i just wanted to show u somethi ng unique in all i saw cuz u r in team of developers here
[20:56] <wxl> thanks for that :)
[20:56] <tbs> ab out Advert Blocker, it blocks adverts starting from system
[20:57] <tbs> u know probably ads plugings at browsers increase their ram usage about %10 or more
[20:57] <tbs> advert blocker s a good idea for that meter i guess
[20:59] <wxl> here's the appstream data for steam http://appstream.ubuntu.com/eoan/multiverse/metainfo/steam-installer.html
[20:59] <wxl> compare to vlc http://appstream.ubuntu.com/eoan/universe/metainfo/vlc.html
[21:00] <wxl> note that under the "Name" there's a "tr" version for vlc, but there are no translations whatsoever for steam
[21:01] <tbs> i also guessed it after i saw english discover doesn t have problem
[21:01] <wxl> well, i'm guessing that's somehow related to the issue
[21:01] <tbs> i ca n use english desktop, b ut it s n ot comfortible
[21:01] <wxl> i have a theory that the problem may lie with the metadata on the featured ones
[21:02] <tbs> u know stea m needs 32 bit thin gs, right?
[21:02] <wxl> in an ideal world, anyone should be able to usee lubuntu regardless of their language. that is certainly a goal for us. we have a whole "globalizatoin" team
[21:02] <wxl> yeah. that fact created quite a controversy
[21:03] <tbs> if u can tell me how to do in stall it, i can try it with english system to install than con vert to turkish
[21:04] <wxl> well if you're using discover i guess the first step is converting to english -_-
[21:05] <wxl> ah i see discover can't handle it anyways
[21:06] <wxl> `sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386`
[21:06] <wxl> you need to do that first
[21:06] <wxl> then discover should work (if you're using english)
[21:07] <tbs> okay, wait some mins, i ll come back after restart
[21:07] <wxl> you don't need to restart
[21:07] <wxl> this isn't windows after all :)
[21:08] <tbs> im now using turkish system
[21:09] <tbs> so i should restart first, right?
[21:09] <wxl> you can just log out and log back in to swap languages
[21:11] <tbs> that was fast
[21:11] <tbs> btw nothing happened with this sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386, just wanted my pass and done
[21:11] <wxl> yep
[21:12] <wxl> that's the necessary part so now you can just install the steam-installer package
[21:12] <tbs> and now discover runs with n o bug -.-
[21:12] <wxl> wait
[21:12] <wxl> in turkish???
[21:12] <tbs>  no, i chan ged to english, i said
[21:13] <tbs> im going to install steam via discover then
[21:13] <wxl> ok
[21:13] <wxl> yep
[21:14] <tbs> why u guys use ubuntu but not debian itself?
[21:14] <tbs> i n eed som e tim e to download steam so i can  ask things:D
[21:15] <wxl> the stable version of debian is behind the stable version of ubuntu; that's one of the major reasons ubuntu exists
[21:15] <tbs> what ab out rolling?
[21:16] <tbs> i read that it s not bad
[21:16] <tbs> i have read*
[21:16] <wxl> that's never been a model for ubuntu and given that it's based on debian which is also not rolling, it's extremely unlikely we'll ever see it
[21:16] <tbs> lxqt team s at lubuntu
[21:17] <wxl> lubuntu is ubuntu
[21:17] <tbs> but forexample manjaro has lxqt too
[21:17] <tbs> so are 2 lxqt desktop same other than ubuntu and arch?
[21:17] <wxl> i'm not sure i understand your question
[21:18] <tbs> or are you guys impruving things for mostly ubuntu?
[21:18] <tbs> i m ean  im pruving lxqt desktop E
[21:19] <wxl> well our goal is ultimately to ensure that "lubuntu" works well together. when that involves a problem affecting lxqt overall, we do that work upstream with lxqt
[21:23] <tbs> b tw, i could install an d start steam-.-
[21:23] <tbs> just need to remember my pass:)
[21:23] <wxl> i can't help you with that XD
[21:23] <tbs> also i just remember,  mint s also based on ubuntu, but doesnt have steam  problem
[21:24] <wxl> the "problems" with steam started in 19.10. there's no mint version based on that yet.
[21:24] <wxl> mint is behind ubuntu
[21:25] <tbs> ahh
[21:26] <tbs> i ll recover steam pass tmorrow
[21:27] <tbs> well, i have now account at lubuntu web  site
[21:28] <wxl> which one? XD
[21:29] <tbs> https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/fake-firefox-in-app-store/646
[21:29] <tbs> finally found
[21:30] <tbs> this one u wanted me to comment about my bug report, right?
[21:31] <wxl> oh not that one :(
[21:31] <tbs> @@
[21:31] <wxl> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=406654
[21:34] <tbs> ahh, i won dered why that ubottu shows that message so many times
[21:35] <tbs> i dont wanna create another acccount...
[21:35] <tbs> i feel like suggesting a n ew thin g to u :D
[21:36] <wxl> probably won't work XD
[21:36] <tbs> since u can develop, pls develop an app like disqus so we wont need to create this man y account:D
[21:36] <wxl> still won't matter. it's a matter of everyone accepting it which is unlikely
[21:37] <tbs> yeah, u r right
[21:37] <tbs> now there s only one step left but even u cant help me( pass of steam)
[21:38] <tbs> while u r here
[21:39] <tbs> lubuntu icon s one of the bests imo
[21:39] <tbs> i like how lubuntu looks
[21:39] <tbs> i dont like charging icon at right side of panel
[21:39] <wxl> thanks XD i have nothing to do with it, though; i usually take whatever comes X'D
[21:40] <tbs> ahh
[21:40] <tbs> i remem bered an other question
[21:40] <tbs> u know workspaces
[21:41] <tbs> with its widget on panel if u use mouse whell u can change desktops
[21:42] <tbs> i saw at archman os community release of openbox, i  could change desktop with mousewhell on  task manager widget
[21:43] <tbs> also those 2 desktops has different wallpapers
[21:43] <tbs> how can i do these at lubuntu?
[21:44] <tbs> https://sourceforge.net/projects/archman-os/files/stable-iso/2019-03/community/openbox/
[21:44] <tbs> this s the os
[21:44] <tbs> i really want to do something smilar to this
[21:45] <tbs> i would use archman too actually but  this iso s not stable imo
[21:52] <wxl> it's a rolling release and it may be in part due to that
[21:52] <wxl> anyways you can configure openbox in different ways
[21:52] <wxl> i HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE that "feature" personally but i can tell you how to do it :)
[21:53] <tbs> wait
[21:53] <tbs> dont tell m e if  u don t like it
[21:53] <tbs> it would be so selfishly from  me
[21:53] <wxl> you know what the best part of linux is? choices! just because i don't like something doesn't mean you shouldn't :)
[21:55] <tbs> i mean i wouldnt want to make u tired cuz of my sefish,  not nessessery questions
[21:55] <wxl> oh it won't bother me any
[21:55] <tbs> i would want u to answer if u thi nk that way^^
[21:56] <wxl> perhaps i expressed myself too strongly. it doesn't bother me to talk about. i just don't want it on my computer :)
[21:57] <tbs> i like it so i wanna try
[21:57] <wxl> i just got to find it
[21:57] <wxl> oh wait
[21:57] <wxl> it's already there
[21:58] <tbs> hmm
[21:59] <tbs> im glad u found it
[21:59] <wxl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-default-settings/browse/ubuntu%252Ffocal/src/etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/openbox/lxqt-rc.xml$545
[22:00] <wxl> here's the openbox documentation on mouse bindings http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Bindings#Mouse_bindings
[22:01] <tbs> i dont know about codes...
[22:02] <wxl> it basically says when you're on the destop, going up goes to the previous desktop and down to the next one
[22:02] <tbs> idk where to write those
[22:03] <wxl> they're already there
[22:03] <tbs> what should i do then?
[22:04] <wxl> go to your desktop, move the mouse wheel and it should go to a different workspace
[22:04] <tbs> ahh
[22:04] <tbs> yeah, but i wanna do same on panel on task manager widget
[22:05] <wxl> given the number of contexts i'm not sure how easy that is
[22:06] <tbs> normally i use one workspace
[22:07] <wxl> i need to take off. talk soon :)
[22:07] <tbs> but if i could do this and could put differen t wallpaper on  differen t workspaces i would use 2 workspaces
[22:07] <tbs> cya later^^