[12:22] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
 Do we use Kmail for 20.04? https://phabricator.kde.org/T12486
 gsilvapt: good to see you :)
[13:04]  * BluesKaj hasn't used kmail since kde4
[13:04] <BluesKaj> and then only for a few weeks 
 https://twitter.com/kubuntu/status/1213090623739383810
[13:36] <BluesKaj> heh, I use my own wallpapers, always have, guess I prefer the familiar
[20:54] <valorie> @RikMills is there an alternative?
[20:54] <valorie> to kmail I mean
[20:54] <valorie> none of the competing teams kept going
 see the phab link
[20:55] <valorie> sigh
[20:55] <valorie> I won't fight it
 Even Neon recognised it was better to ship Firefox as default browser and vlc as default media player for the time being
[20:58] <valorie> added my comment
 Making bad or broken KDE things the default, just because they are KDE, will not do us any favours
 valorie: thanks
[20:58] <valorie> certainly
[20:59] <valorie> agree there 100%
 In the vein, I would like more testing of elisa if people have the time :)
 *In that
[21:56] <valorie> perhaps send out a call on the list?
[22:18] <gsilvapt> Hey RikMills, nice to see you too :)