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fuzewhy has this been labeled wont fix and is it possible for me to fix it on my device? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/27101901:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 271019 in linux (Ubuntu) "kernel does not detect card reader if card is inserted in reader before boot" [Medium,Won't fix]01:20
OerHeksan bug report from 2008, last comment 2012 ..01:30
deusexmachinaHi guys01:59
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FORDRDNKso anyone have experience with Ubuntu Touch?02:46
deusexmachinaYes02:46
deusexmachinaI used to dev for it, but never actually contributed my work due to me and the team not getting along02:46
deusexmachinaWhat is your question02:47
deusexmachinaFORDRDNK, what is your question?02:48
deusexmachinaFORDRDNK, I would stay away from it... the reason I left is because it was shit and no one would listen to me about how we needed to fix it, happened twice, because I decided to try again02:52
FORDRDNKthat bad eh?02:52
FORDRDNKi was curious... trying to get away from Google and Iphone02:53
deusexmachinaOh, well, that's why I have a project to make a competitor... but I only have 1 coder working on it and don't have time myself02:53
FORDRDNKYeah i'm just tired of privacy bullshit and tracking02:54
deusexmachinaLike, if you want to get away from google, postmarketOS, or Plasma Mobile... Or if you want you can build AOSP (Android Open-Source Project)02:54
deusexmachinaAOSP is googles opensource branch of Android, it's FOSS, and it's Android with no Google stuff02:54
FORDRDNKtrue but wouldnt linux be more secure ??02:55
deusexmachinaWell, Android is Linux02:55
deusexmachinaIt's Linux kernel, and recently they've gotten to the almost mainline upstream02:55
FORDRDNKso roll an AOSP and modify from there eh02:56
FORDRDNKthey support DSDS02:56
deusexmachinaYou can... Or you can wait for one of the MANY FOSS GNU platforms currently in development02:56
FORDRDNKFOSS?   acronym definition please...     if you are talking modules in a vehicle i get it 100%   little lost on the tech stuff been years since i've been into all this02:57
deusexmachinaI have one in development, but I'm too  busy with projects for income to spend a lot of time on it02:57
deusexmachinaFree Opensource Software02:57
FORDRDNKrecommendations for the FOSS?02:58
deusexmachinaI would get a pinephone02:58
syntropeinstalled Ubuntu 19.10 on laptop, but it boots into a blank screen. Worked as live boot. What could be the problem?02:58
deusexmachinaUbuntu Touch doesn't support any modern devices, and the older ones they do support, none have full hardware support working02:58
FORDRDNKdeusexmachina: don't they require their own device tho?02:58
deusexmachinaUbuntu Touch requires a specific supported device02:59
deusexmachinaand there is only 2 very outdated shitty phones that have decent support, and 0 devices with full working hardware02:59
deusexmachinaI use UT on my business phone because I don't care if I miss calls... Also I've never given out the number to anyone, so it doesn't matter if I have proper stable support02:59
huttanI turned off password lon login and now the lock button is gone from the "top right arrow down settings" . Is there anyway I can manually re add the button but with a custom command that does not launch the standard unity/gdm lock screen?02:59
deusexmachinamy personal phone is more critical, I run stock Samsung 10.0 Android03:00
FORDRDNKdeusexmachina: So would it even be worth trying any of that on my pixel 3a xl that is like a spare device?03:00
deusexmachinaI need that because I am crazy and may require help with my mind03:00
deusexmachinathere is no support for pixel devices03:00
deusexmachinayou could make it... The starting point for porting is a lineageos kernel, device tree, and vendor tree03:01
FORDRDNKdeusexmachina: yeah from what i was reading it was older generation nexus and all03:01
deusexmachinaI have 87 Nexus 5's03:01
deusexmachinahaha03:01
FORDRDNKdeusexmachina: 87?? collector?03:01
deusexmachinaI bought 100 from Ebay in a single lot, for $1250, $12.50 CDN03:01
FORDRDNKdamn.03:02
deusexmachinaYeah... I'm a crazy person, I do really ridiculous things03:02
deusexmachinathat's another part of why I left the UT team... they didn't respect the fact that I was crazy... they would tell me off and once banned me for a while simply because I was having mental health issues03:02
FORDRDNKdeusexmachina: since you seem knowledgeable in this should i just stick with the basic os that came with the pixel and not worry about the linux os change?03:02
FORDRDNKdeusexmachina: Crazy can be a good thing03:03
deusexmachinaI mean... they all bring their old retired phone, and do their work on that... I bought $12,000 of devices and started working on porting them all together03:03
deusexmachinaYeah, unless you're the one who has to judge my actions and thoughts/speech03:03
FORDRDNKdeusexmachina: thats the man upstairs03:03
deusexmachinaLol, every non ML/AI channel on this irc network things I'm a troll/liar03:04
FORDRDNKdamn03:04
deusexmachinaIt's fine... I take it as a compliment03:05
deusexmachinaif I'm so good, that you don't believe my actual life... That's awesome03:05
deusexmachinaTry Pinephone, I think that WILL have proper Ubuntu Touch support, since it's completely open documented hardware03:05
FORDRDNKpinephone is it out of the box install and go or no?03:06
deusexmachinaI'm not sure if they are making them for market yet03:06
deusexmachinaIt's a modern spec nice phone, with fully open support and drivers... I have one that I bought off a person who got one from a developer kit03:06
deusexmachinamine isn't a nice package, it's a bunch of parts with no case... I would say, get a FairPhone 2, or a Nexus 5, and use UT, an03:07
deusexmachinamine isn't a nice package, it's a bunch of parts with no case... I would say, get a FairPhone 2, or a Nexus 5, and use UT, and if you have no issues with the issues it has, then you can keep it, otherwise you can reflash whatever else you want03:08
FORDRDNKany known issues as of now?03:08
deusexmachinaThe battery life sucks... Which I offered to fix with voltage and frequency scaling kernel modules... declined by official team03:09
deusexmachinaeven if you use it with Franco Kernel which03:10
deusexmachinawhich don't work OOB, you can't make the ancient screen pull less power03:10
deusexmachinaFairphone 2 is suposed to be better, haven't tried that device03:10
FORDRDNKDamn that sounds like too much trouble03:11
deusexmachinaLol... playing with new tech and toys is something I love03:11
FORDRDNKSo did i back in the day of the old a855 android that came out with verizon.. I'd love to have my BB 9530 back working again too.03:12
deusexmachinaI have only new phones working03:13
deusexmachinaI have bricked them all except my development devices03:13
deusexmachinaI have 12 Samsung Galaxy S phones03:13
deusexmachinaThey all run Linux 5.1 modified kernel, and it's the same kernel for all 12, plus 3 Pixel devices... Even older devices with 3.x kernel drivers03:14
FORDRDNKdamn03:14
deusexmachinaI haven't gotten too far with it, it's usable as a linux system, not as a phone yet03:14
deusexmachinaThat's my baby03:14
deusexmachinaI mean, it was my baby, before I got obsessed with ML/AI/AGI03:14
deusexmachinaNow all I do is work on AGI and then work on projects that pay to fund AGI work03:15
deusexmachinaI've been working for almost 9.5 years on my AGI stuff03:15
FORDRDNKlots of time03:15
deusexmachinayeah, and we're talking 120+ hours a week03:15
deusexmachinabut now I have to make money because I can't keep going without working on things that pay03:16
deusexmachinaso... coding boring stuff, all the time:(03:16
deusexmachinaBut, I use Ubuntu for all my work:D03:16
deusexmachinaUbuntu FTW03:18
deusexmachinaI use apt-get source and apt-get build-dep to build stuff with -march=native that I need absolute performance on03:19
deusexmachinahave you ever compiled with 1344 threads?03:20
* deusexmachina has a nerdgasm03:20
pyJeffyhi03:35
pi0anyone here use qemu on ubuntu05:30
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p0aHello if I update my ubuntu from 19.4 to 19.10 will anything break07:31
p0aMy distro is mostly fresh I haven't tinkered much with it07:31
fuzeIs it possible to make front and rear headphone ports detectable as separate outputs?07:35
ducassep0a: upgrading should be fine, as long as you haven't added tons of ppas. backing up first is recommended, though.07:38
p0aducasse: How can I see what ppas I've added?07:38
ducassep0a: 'apt policy', or 'ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d'07:39
p0aducasse: `apt policy' gives a long output but the `ls' is empty07:41
ducassecan you pastebin the output of apt policy, and i'll give it a look?07:41
p0asure! https://pastebin.com/Y717TNS507:43
pi0anyway to set the login screen from purple to black?07:45
sweep90pi0: what display manager are you using07:45
ducassep0a: ok, see the lines starting with '500'? if any of those contain a url with something other than *.archive.ubuntu.com they are ppas. you don't have any, so upgrading should be fine.07:45
p0aducasse: thank you! :) I appreciate your help.07:46
ducasseno problem :) i'd back up first, though. better safe than sorry.07:46
pi0display manager? how can i tell07:47
pi0i am using stock ubuntu 18.0407:48
sweep90pi0: are you talking about the lock screen wallpaper?07:48
p0api0: https://askubuntu.com/a/40928507:48
pi0sweep90: the login purple screen07:50
pi0p0a: thank you07:50
pi0p0a: changing to #000000 would make it black?07:50
p0api0: yup I believe so07:51
pi0p0a: lock screen is the same as login screen07:51
pi0brb gonna reboot07:54
p0agodspeed07:54
pi0shoot08:06
pi0it did not work :/08:07
pi0thank goodness for tmux08:07
pi0i can attach and detach from sessions08:07
pi0i dont want to install plymouth08:07
p0asorry!08:07
pi0to do this, there has to be a way without third party apps08:07
MJCDhey I want to completely disable/remove the built in desktop-minimal 18.04's software updater08:43
MJCDit's for workstation use08:44
MJCDso we handle the updates ourselves08:44
MJCDmanually08:44
WoodpeckerWhat is the notification command in Ubuntu? I want to add a popup notification when my compiles finish.08:44
EriC^^Woodpecker: notify-send08:47
Woodpecker!cookies | EriC^^08:48
ubottuEriC^^: Cookies are delicious delicacies.08:48
MJCDhey can someone pastebin their sources.list09:31
MJCDlol09:31
MJCDI did make a backup but it got messed up09:31
MJCDbecause I don't understand sed well enough09:31
ducasseMJCD: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FnjkJpTF8j/09:32
Night_ElfHello. I wonder, is it normal that when resizing an ext4 partition on a USB stick, from 32MB to be 30GB, it is taking almost one hour to do? I am using gparted for this.09:46
TexadimirLeaninhow can i use ppa to get the newest version of php on an ubuntu?09:54
MJCDNight_Elf, uh10:05
MJCDwhy didnt you just take the files off10:05
MJCDand reformat it10:05
friendlyguyhi there! i am running a ubuntu based distribution (armbian) on a small soc (cubietruck) here. it turns off randomly and i am trying to figure out why.10:05
MJCDhave you checked your voltages10:06
friendlyguyi examined the syslog and found nothing other than mysql-server restarting in there10:06
MJCDit could be that the psu/pwm is not able to draw enough power10:07
Night_ElfMJCD: I am just doing that. Deleting the partition completely and recreating it again.10:07
MJCDthrough the system, or something is using more than it can provide likely10:07
friendlyguyMJCD: how do i do that? btw. the system has a big battery attached to it... (i didnt test that for some years if its still functional though)10:07
MJCDNight_Elf, that's not resizing10:07
MJCDthat's reformatting10:07
MJCDdid you set it to be a quick format?10:07
friendlyguy(the battery that is attached to it is a 3,7 V-/5,3 Ah battery)10:08
Night_ElfMJCD: Not yet. Am just about to see to recreate it with the same label and uuid as it was before. The idea is that I don't really need to resize in the sense that resizing should happen. All I need is for it to fill all the space in the usb thumbdrive. It is a live system bootable usb and that partition is where stuff is stored. Mounted by the live system.10:10
Night_Elfuhmm... how to specify a quick format to mkfs.ext4 ?10:11
tomreynTexadimirLeanin: why do you need to? see also:10:24
tomreyn!latest10:24
ubottuPackages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.10:24
tomreyn!armbian | friendlyguy10:25
tomreyn!otherdistro | friendlyguy10:25
ubottufriendlyguy: we really don't do help for your distro, perhaps if you put a # in front of the distro name you might find yourself in their channels where they would be able to welcome you and help more than we can10:25
tomreyn!derivatives10:26
ubottuThe Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle)10:26
tomreynNight_Elf: there are not "ext4 partition[s]", there are partitions with ext4 file sstems on them. resizing a file system could take a while, as could moving data within a resized partition. but the duration you specified does seem long for this amount of data unless the storage is defective, generally slow or badly connected.10:29
friendlyguyMJCD: i think you were right, its the power supply10:31
tomreynNight_Elf: "quickformat" is an outdated concept used to refer to generating a FAT file system on windows while not zeroing all blocks of the storage. on linux, you'd just say "create file system".10:31
friendlyguyhave a nice day!10:31
sazawalHi all. I am using Ubuntu 19.04. I have a portable usb hard disk, it is detected in lsusb but not in fdisk -l and Disks. How do I fix it?10:32
tomreynsazawal: what does lsusb report for it? see also:10:33
tomreyn!paste10:33
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.10:33
tomreyn!19.04 | sazawal: on a side note (note the end of support)10:34
ubottusazawal: on a side note (note the end of support): Ubuntu 19.04 (Disco Dingo) is the 30th release of Ubuntu, supported until January 2020.  Release Notes: http://ubottu.com/y/dingo10:34
p0aHow can I upgrade from 19.04 to 19.10?10:37
tomreyn!upgrade | p0a10:38
ubottup0a: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade10:38
p0athank you tomreyn10:38
sazawaltomreyn, Thanks.  Here is the lsusb output https://termbin.com/9ov010:38
tomreynyou'Re welcome.10:38
tomreyn!crosspost | Night_Elf10:38
ubottuNight_Elf: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.10:38
tomreynsazawal: i don't see a usb storage listed, which one is it?10:39
Night_Elftomreyn: Well yes, I knew all that. What I said was more a shorthand for the problem, asuming that all understand what is meant by "an ext4 partition". Getting back to the problem, it seems that resizing partitions in usb thumbdrives, is a really bad idea. It's much simpler to save the data somewhere (like in a .tar.gz file), delete that partition, recreate a new one bigger as desired, and format.10:41
Night_ElfAfter that just restoring the same data from the previously made .tar.gz10:41
sazawaltomreyn, The first one with ASMedia. By USB I meant that it is connected to the usb port of the laptop. The casing has eSATA port.10:41
tomreynNight_Elf: so you knew already that you should not cross post (and did it nevertheless)?10:42
Night_ElfI was refering to the semantics about ext4 partitions and ext4 fileystems.10:43
tomreyni see. so maybe you did not know you should not cross post, so it's good you know now.10:44
tomreynsazawal: hmm, this seems to be a buggy usb<->sata bridge. this seems to discuss it https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/239782/connection-problem-with-usb3-external-storage-on-linux-uas-driver-problem10:45
tomreynsazawal: maybe just do the ubuntu upgrade (which you need to do anyways) and it might already work then. if not, you can try the workaround suggested on this article.10:45
sazawaltomreyn, Actually this casing works with other hard disk. Maybe the hard drive itself (not the casing) if defective.10:46
Night_Elftomreyn: I don't want to seem inconsiderate, but actually the people who supplied some insight to my question from debian, are not here. I wouldn't have solved the issue if I didn't ask there. Is it really a problem that the same can be asked in more than one place?10:47
tomreynsazawal: hmm, could be that, too. what's the output of     journalctl -kp4 | nc termbin.com 999910:47
p0aNight_Elf: perhaps if you wait an appropriate amount of time on one channel and you get no help, you can ask in another10:48
p0aNight_Elf: but mass-spamming a question puts your time above others' time10:48
tomreynNight_Elf: exactly what p0a said. it's just selfish.10:48
ducasseNight_Elf: crossposting is rude and inconsiderate. if you ask in two channels, and one person in each answers, one of them has wasted his time10:49
Night_ElfI wasn't meaning that at all. Didn't want to offend anyone. It is just that I imagine different people to be in different channels. There never was an intention to repeat intentionally.10:50
tomreynwell, now you know (once again, since you were told before) it's not appreciated please don'T do it again.10:51
sazawaltomreyn, Output of journalctl -kp4 - https://termbin.com/qgi210:52
korpvargwhen i try to open Opera browser maximized in ubuntu 19.10 and change  Exec=opera %U  to: Exec=opera %U --start-maximized in /usr/share/applications/opera.desktop  it does nothing? Opera still opens minimized ?10:53
tomreynsazawal: so i guess this is sdb, you can look at the full output at    journalctl -be    (then scroll up to "............not responding..."), 'q' to quit the viewer)10:54
tomreynsazawal: i assume it'll provide more context there. it does look like a communication issue.10:54
korpvarghow do i open Opera maximized ?  that config in /usr/share/applications/opera.desktop used to work10:55
p0akorpvarg: does `opera --start-maximized' work for you?10:58
sazawaltomreyn, Here is the "not responding" part of journalctl -b, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QKWrxPsKQY/10:59
korpvargcan i add  opera --start-maximized in a symbolic link or do i have to run it as a command in terminal?11:00
tomreynsazawal: right, this can be a broken storage. try it on a different usb port, try unplugging all other usb devices you don't strictly require, then reconnect this one. compare the messages    journalctl -f    (cancel with ctrl-c) prints when you do these two tests. if it remains the same, try it on a different computer.11:03
p0akorpvarg: Edit /usr/share/applications/opera.desktop replacing `Exec=opera %U' to `Exec=opera --start-maximized %U' and repeat for `Exec' under `[Desktop Action NewWindow]' and `[Desktop Action NewPrivateWindow]'.11:04
tomreynsazawal: also double check the connectors between casing and the storage.11:04
chimneyshi11:05
chimneyswhy is there no backlight file on desktop, but on laptop it's always present11:05
ryuochimneys: ?11:06
tomreynsazawal: the non-crosspost (at the same time) note also goes to you, i assume you already noticed.11:06
ryuochimneys: eh?11:06
chimneysryuo: ??11:06
ryuochimneys: backlight file?11:06
chimneysyes11:07
ryuochimneys: what's that supposed to mean?11:07
chimneysit means backlight file11:07
tomreyna file called "backlight"?11:07
ryuowell, it means nothing to me. files are not backlit.11:07
* tomreyn doesn't get it either11:08
chimneyssysfs11:09
chimneysls /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/11:09
ryuochimneys: desktops don't have backlights normally.11:09
ryuoscreen backlights aren't configurable on a desktop in general.11:10
ryuothough you can still put the display to sleep.11:10
ryuoso there's no backlight device to control.11:10
TexadimirLeanin!backports11:11
ubottuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging11:11
TexadimirLeanin!ppa11:11
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge11:11
TexadimirLeanin!addppa11:12
ubottuA !ppa can be added using a single command «  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name » See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20PPAs for more details11:12
chimneysryuo: ok so you know wat a backlight is.11:13
chimneysryuo: then how do desktops change brightness11:14
chimneysryuo: why are they not configurable? modules not present?11:14
chimneystomreyn: do you know the modules name to load to make them configurable11:14
ducassechimneys: the hardware doesn't support it, nothing to configure11:15
tomreynchimneys: you can't, since the desktop hardware has no embedded controller, thus no hardware interface to the backlight. the only option then is to use what can transfer over the display connector.11:15
korpvargstill wont work Opera still opens minimized11:15
tomreynkorpvarg: in case you're wondering: there's no opera in ubuntu, it's a third party software. we only really support the software in ubuntu here (sometimes exceptions are made). you can try ##linux maybe.11:17
chimneystomreyn: so what do you suggest11:20
chimneysclearly hardware "supports" brightness change... on windows11:21
chimneysand on linux too11:21
kristian_on_linucheers11:22
kristian_on_linujust put 18.04 on my "new" T520 ... it just turns off when the battery dies, no warning ... how do I get a system beep (or some other sound) at, say 10% and 5%?11:23
korpvargok yeah i understand,  i'll might ask in the Opera user forums instead  but anyways thanks for the help11:24
tomreynchimneys: what is it that you're trying to do? change display brightness? what are you running there? ubuntu version, kernel, architecture?11:28
tomreyn...and graphical desktop11:28
tomreynkristian_on_linu: hi there. this suggests acpi is not working well. can you post a complete system log when it can boot again? Just run this in a temrinal and post the url here:   journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 999911:34
kristian_on_linuhi tomrey, what do you mean with "when it can boot again"?11:36
kristian_on_linuand thanks11:36
tomreynkristian_on_linu: i guess the battery is empty, and you need to recharge it now, at least a little, before you can power it up again. but maybe i just didn't think enough about it. ;-)11:37
kristian_on_linuah, it is actually at 80% right now11:37
kristian_on_linulemme run the command11:37
friendlyguyi am sorry to bother you again, but maybe this problem rings a bell for somebody: in filesystem the /var/log/mysql/ folder changes its permissions from mysql:adm to root:root on every reboot, preventing mysql from starting. once i change the owner manually mysql starts fine.11:37
kristian_on_linubattery is brand new and off-brand, btw11:37
TexadimirLeanincan i change my ubuntu installation from regular ubuntu to ubuntu-server post-instalation?11:37
kristian_on_linutomreyn: https://termbin.com/5t3p11:38
Alabalisticfriendlyguy, try adding suid on it11:39
tomreynkristian_on_linu: thanks. i'm looking, this can take a while (it's long). if you like, check the lenovo website for a firmware update for this LENOVO 42434YG/42434YG, BIOS 8AET69WW (1.49 ) 06/14/2018 you have there in the meantime.11:40
kristian_on_linutomreyn: the BIOS is the latest one11:41
friendlyguyAlabalistic: is the suid bit default for mysql?11:41
kristian_on_linuI'm not sure I can install firmware on ubuntu?11:42
chimneystomreyn: change my brightness the same way on windows pc11:44
chimneysubuntu 19.1011:44
chimneys$ uname -a11:44
chimneysLinux h 5.0.0-37-generic #40-Ubuntu SMP Thu Nov 14 00:14:01 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux11:44
tomreynkristian_on_linu: you can in some cases, using lvfs / fwupd (search the web about it)11:45
Alabalisticfriendlyguy, it's a special permission for executabel files, so normal user can execute the file like file owner11:45
kristian_on_linutomreyn: I just found out that pc speaker is blacklisted, someone alerted me to it11:45
Alabalisticbut after that all child processes will be rus as root, so maybe is the worst idea ever11:46
friendlyguyyeah, i know what suid is. but i am wondering why i would want that for mysql.11:46
tomreynchimneys: settings -> devices -> displays may enable you to do so. otherwise i don't know, would just manage it on the monitor directly.11:46
friendlyguyfrom a security point of view: it feels like a baaaaad idea.11:47
chimneystomreyn: how11:47
tomreynchimneys: that's dependant on your hardware, ask in ##hardware if the on screen menu is not self-explanatory. it's not an ubuntu question.11:48
chimneysunder display there is night light option ... how does it change the screen? which cmd does it run internally11:48
kristian_on_linutomreyn: https://paste.ee/p/uhh5y11:49
chimneystomreyn: it changes warm color tones not brightness11:49
chimneysbut clearly this is an ubuntu specific Night Light "question"11:49
tomreynkristian_on_linu: so normally what would happen when the battery runs low is that your graphical desktop shows a warning message indicating so, recommending to shutdown. if this does not happen on your system you're either not using gnome-shell or linux was unable to gather realistic values about the charge state from the firmware via acpi11:50
tomreynkristian_on_linu: you don't normally need or want or even have a pc speaker.11:51
kristian_on_linutomreyn: I have an icon on the top that goes red when the battery is low, but I want to hear it also ... the other user suggested that the beep is from the pc speaker11:52
tomreynkristian_on_linu: but there was no on screen prompt to shutdown garcefully? are you using gnome-shell or something else?11:53
tomreynkristian_on_linu: i'm not sure about how to make it do an audible warning about it11:53
tomreynusually the bios would trigger that if there was a pcspeaker in there.11:54
kristian_on_linutomreyn: it just went black, boom11:54
tomreynkristian_on_linu: if you use gnome-shell, you can access settings -> power to change how it behaves when the charge runs low.11:56
kristian_on_linuI don't use that, but I could install it?11:57
kristian_on_linuI got the gnome tweaks thing, which let me add a percentage to the status bar, but still no sound11:58
tomreynkristian_on_linu: what is "that" that you do not use?11:59
kristian_on_linuah, sorry ... I meant the gnome shell11:59
kristian_on_linuah, I see I have it alread11:59
kristian_on_linu*already12:00
tomreynso which desktop environment do you use then?12:00
kristian_on_linujust standard Gnome 312:00
tomreynyes, you'll have it then12:00
kristian_on_linusorry about the confusion12:00
tomreynno problem. i'm afraid that's all i know about this. you could try searching the web for suggestions on getting an audible warning on gnome-shell when the battery runs low.12:01
tomreyn(unless someone else here or in ##linux knows)12:02
kristian_on_linulooking into that12:04
kristian_on_linuhowever, this feels like a bug? It *should* say something when the battery is critically low, right?12:04
BluesKajHowdy folks12:06
kristian_on_linutomreyn: thanks for the help, will reset later (trying to get some work done)12:07
chimneyshow to make monitor sleep12:15
chimneyswithout using hardware button12:15
ducassechimneys: 'man xset'12:15
chimneysok12:15
chimneystell me the exact cmd12:16
ducassesee the dpms option in the xset man page, it explains everything12:17
chimneyswhat is the difference between suspend , standby?12:20
chimneysoff too seems the same12:20
chimneysI read the man12:20
ducassenot sure about the difference between suspend and standby, but off should just turn it off12:25
p0achimneys: I think it has to do with where the state is saved (ram/disk)13:02
p0athat is true for suspend versus hibernate. Now I don't know about standby; I think in ubuntu they're the same, standby and suspend.13:04
ducassep0a: this is about monitors, not suspending the computer13:31
p0aducasse: got it, whoops13:34
chimneysp0a: no this is about monitor suspend/off ; read above properly14:03
chimneysso "nothing to save"14:03
chimneysit has to do with screen not cpu14:03
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deadromhi16:22
deadrom18.04LTS: Wacom issue: older Bamboo tablet, works fine in Windows, used to work fine in Ubuntu but recently in relative mode it occsionally skips when lifting and setting the pen to the corresponding absolute position16:24
deadromhow can I narrow down what's happening? would like to monitor the positional data for example to see if it is an x input issue16:24
BlueShark_Hi guys. I did a UEFI installation of Ubuntu 18.04.03 on my PC which already had Windows 10. But when I boot up, it directly goes into Windows 10 without showing grub. Any idea what's happening here?16:26
deadromBlueShark_: installed grub when it asked?16:35
HayashiEsmeOh yeah I had this same issue, try this: https://itsfoss.com/no-grub-windows-linux/16:35
BlueShark_deadrom: I don't remember it asking for grub installation?16:35
BlueShark_I had some unallocated free space. After booting up using live USB in UEFI mode, I created one partition for /, one for /home, and one for swap. Chose /dev/sda2 (Windows Boot Manager) partition as the device for installing bootloader. Finished the installation.16:37
BlueShark_The first time it booted after the installation, everything was working properly. Grub was showing, I could select either Windows or Ubuntu, and it would work correctly.16:38
BlueShark_But after some time, it started directly going to Windows without even showing grub.16:38
HayashiEsmeBlueShark_: Did you have a look at this?:) https://itsfoss.com/no-grub-windows-linux/16:39
BlueShark_I think I tried that before, let me try it again.16:39
BlueShark_Dang!16:42
BlueShark_It worked this time.16:42
elfatherbrownHi hi. Happy new year and all. Quick question: i want to start my normal gnome-based (bionic) ubuntu session with as many as 10 or 20 workspaces.16:43
tomreynelfatherbrown: you seem to have forgotten the question.16:44
tomreyn(or maybe i'm just lacking patience)16:45
elfatherbrowntomreyn, Ill rephrase that your honour: how can I start my session with an arbitrary number of workspaces (desktops) instead of just 2 for starters.16:46
tomreynelfatherbrown: gnome-tweaks -> workspaces -> number of workspaces16:47
tomreynand tick "statioc workspaces" if not already ticked16:48
elfatherbrownThank you Mr tomreyn. Seems to do the trick.16:57
ShawnYI'm running into some weird path problem on Pop_OS/Ubuntu and zsh. Can anyone spot something obvious I'm missing here? https://pastebin.com/fWEfwFjV16:58
tomreynon Pop_OS or on Ubuntu?16:58
tomreynlooks like the former16:58
ShawnYPop_OS, which of course is just Ubuntu + mods.16:59
tomreynand too different to support it here16:59
tomreyn!derivatives16:59
ubottuThe Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle)16:59
devsterhi, I just plugged a couple new drives into a SuperMicro X9 something running Ubuntu 18.04, they're not showing up though  in /dev/disk or /sys/block... what am I missing?16:59
tomreyndevster: i assume its powered up? :) was it running already when you attached those?17:00
devsteryes, hotswapped17:01
devster4 other drives in, working fine17:01
tomreynhttps://termbin.com/cnsk17:01
devsterthey're not in the /sys/class/scsi_host list17:02
tomreynthat's assuming those are on the scsi / sata bus17:02
tomreynhmm, does your system support hotplug?17:02
devsterI believe so, how would I check?17:02
tomreynmainboard documentation, controller documentation17:03
tomreynwas anything written to dmesg when you attached those drives?17:03
HayashiEsmeQuestion: A lot of the documentation I've clicked through so far on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ seems to be fairly outdated. Is there a newer wiki I'm missing?17:05
devsterdoesn't seem to be anything in dmesg... backplane seems hot-swappable, drives are hot now so power goes through17:06
tomreynpowered drives doesn't mean the controller knows about them, nor the mainboard / firmware17:08
tomreynhere's another try: sudo find /sys/devices/pci* -type d -name 'ata[0-9]*'17:08
devsterstill only 6 drives showing up unfortunately...17:08
matlockHayashiEsme What are you interested in contributing on? Maybe updating some wiki pages might be a place to start. I recently worked on cleaning up the derivative page and added a page for Hyper-V.17:09
devstermissing 217:09
tomreyndo you have a separate storage controller?17:09
tomreynwhicat kinds of disks are these, connected how?17:10
tomreyn*what kind  of17:10
devsterbackplane should be directly plugged into the motherboard, disks are hgst ultrastar connected via sata, huh721010ale600, the others are huh728080ale60017:10
tomreynsounds like you need to resort to the mainboard + backplane manual, review bios setup configuration17:11
tomreyn+reboot17:11
devsterwill do, thanks... manual will be difficult17:11
tomreynhow so? supermicro got manuals.17:12
tomreynyou can even contact their support chat about it.17:12
devsterX9 are very old, I believe they discontinued them17:13
HayashiEsmematlock I'd love to work on the code that runs Ubuntu, but I understand I should probably start working towards the Ubuntu membership first getting my feet wet in open source via helping up with Universe packages. Are there any packages I can help out just to have an idea of what goes on behind developing for stuff in open source?17:13
HayashiEsme(Of course at some point when I feel like I know stuff I'd probably update the wiki like I mean I know peanuts at this point lmfao)17:14
tomreyndevster: they're still online, but we're off-topic here. can continue in #ubuntu-offtopic if you like17:18
devsterno problem, thanks for the info, I'll try to reboot first, see if that does it17:19
tomreynHayashiEsme: there's no newer ubuntu wiki unfortunatel. yes, much is outdated, but there are still people fighting the windmill fight17:23
tomreynand even the partially outdated articles can still be quite helpful. but this is probably more of a topic for #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-doc rather17:24
HayashiEsmeHa ha I'll update stuff as I see them then, thanks:) tomreyn17:24
HayashiEsmeOh right. Do people watch that IRC? It kinda seems like every other channel besides #ubuntu is pretty quiet17:25
eamonnmrI'm back, still trying to upgrade my HDD... I've got the HDD I plan on putting in installed in an external enclosure. There's got to be a simple way to have Clonezilla copy the entire HDD over, right? Anyone have a link to a tut or some such?17:54
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jeremy31eamonnmr: Plenty of info on clonezilla site, get the source and destination drives correct or you will have 2 blank drives17:57
eamonnmrYeah, it's giving me the option to use sdb (the external, blank) drive as a source, but not my existing HDD17:58
jeremy31eamonnmr: are you booted on the source drive?17:58
eamonnmrYes17:58
eamonnmr(is that wrong? Should I not have done that?)17:58
jeremy31eamonnmr: use the clonezilla ISO on a USB thumbdrive17:59
eamonnmrOk, sweet, maybe that's where I've been going so wrong18:00
eamonnmrWriting a disc now, wish me luck18:04
pat^hi. i am trying to install ubuntu server (18.04.3) on a diskless server on an iscsi volume. the installer does not allow me to add any iscsi volumes although according to the documentation it should. are there any options i am missing?18:29
kxslyou might need to use the alternate installer for that18:32
pat^kxsl: thanks, i will try that18:37
ioriapat^, have you already checked  this ? https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/installation-iscsi/1132118:40
pat^ioria: yep. that is basically the same as the official documentation. but the standard installer does not even complain that there are no discs. also there is no option regarding iscsi in the manual menu18:41
ioriapat^, i see18:42
pat^ioria: it just offers me to create an lvm / md raid without any disks :)18:42
pat^kxsl: the alternate installer does work, thanks18:51
newwenHiya! New to Ubuntu, I’ve installed on an old pc while my windows machine is inaccessible. Trying to get a network connection, No networks are showing up so I’m guessing I need a driver for my WiFi antenna. Can anyone tell me how to go about installing this once I’ve found it¿18:54
newwenOkay, nvm. Found I need ndiswrapper18:57
jeremy31newwen: what adapter do you have?18:57
newwenjeremy31 netgear wna3100. Gonna have go download ndiswrapper looks like18:59
jeremy31newwen: Buy a different adapter and use a hammer on the netgear19:00
newwenjeremy31 found the chipset and got a driver already :/19:00
jeremy31newwen: see https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2264020&highlight=wna310019:00
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newwenThis process already makes me want to use a hammer on my face19:04
tomreyntethering through a smartphone may be more convenient19:05
tomreynand less error prone19:05
newwen@tomreyn tethering in what sense sorry19:06
jeremy31newwen: connect smartphone to wifi and use USB tethering19:06
tomreynfor lack of a better network device19:07
newwen...well that’s something I didn’t know was possible¡ thanks friends19:07
jeremy31newwen: There are plenty of wifi devices out there that work in Ubuntu, some may need source code from github.  If you have open internal PCI slot, get an Intel 7260 that will fit the slot19:09
jeremy31Some USB wifi that work https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=230906819:11
kxslhow do i install a minimal gnome desktop? i don't need all the games, office suite, etc... just the UI and the toolbars19:14
OerHekssomething with no-install-recommends ?19:15
ioriakxsl,  the new installer should have a 'minimal' option , iirc19:15
kxslis there a package name? ubuntu is already installed19:16
OerHekssudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends, or the miimal option in the 18.04 installer indeed19:17
kxslOerHeks, looks promising, trying now. thank you19:19
PCatineanHi guys, does anyone here have experience with setting up Gerbera (MediaTomb) for upnp server and playing media content on android devices?19:47
PCatineanI have installed gerbera, it seems to be running and I can use the interface locally but I can't seem to discover it over the network using the android apps19:48
PCatineanI can see just chromecasts and other devices on the network19:48
conrbest way to send large files over ssh remotely? rsync or scp or other?19:48
tomreynrsync19:52
conrtomreyn: i'm trying rsync but it just does one file and times out19:53
conrflags -avWP19:53
tomreynwhy -W ?19:57
conrwhole file19:57
conrno need to check if its older or new, its the first time sending19:58
tomreynoh first time, ok.19:58
tomreynso is it a network problem that it times out?19:59
tomreyndoes it not trasnfer anything at all?19:59
tomreynmaybe you do not want W to prevent it from trying to copy too much at once.19:59
conrit transfers 1 or 2 files then times out20:01
conrboth have strong connection is 1Gbit the other is 300Mbp20:03
eamonnmrSuccess! Clonezilla did the thing perfectly20:05
eamonnmrBut now I have 600 extra gb of unallocated space20:05
eamonnmrI'd like to use that partition for both Linux and Win1020:05
eamonnmrHow should I format it/configure it so that both Ubuntu and Windows will be able to read/write by default? (I'm sure there's a tutorial out there)20:06
leftyfbeamonnmr: you could boot with a live cd and resize both the Windows and Ubuntu partitions to utilize that partition as you see fit20:07
eamonnmrI was hoping to have A place to store, for example, music samples which I might want to use in both Linux and Windows20:08
leftyfbok, then do that20:08
leftyfbformat as FAT32 for both to access20:08
eamonnmrDoes it matter if make the partition managed in windows or Ubuntu?20:09
eamonnmr**use the partition manager20:09
rfma 600GB FAT32 file system would have a gigantic cluster size, wouldn't it?  I think NTFS would be a better choice, the linux/ubuntu ntfs implementation has been pretty good for a while20:11
seererfm: +1, I would suggest NTFS too in this case.20:11
eamonnmrWill it treat the partition as read-only?20:11
seereeamonnmr: no, NTFS on Linux has r/w support for years now.20:12
eamonnmrSo if I make it in gparted it'll hopefully just work? Ok cool, I'll try that out.20:16
eamonnmrOwch, windows thinks it has the maximum number of partitions already (four seems low for that!) I'll try Ubuntu ...20:21
rfmeamonnmr, no, 4 partitions is the limit for DOS disk labels.   You can create the 4th partition as a "extended" partition, though, and create partitions within that.20:22
eamonnmrIs there a way to achieve that without destroying one of the existing four partitions?20:23
OerHekseamonnmr, you need to remove 1 partition, to make an extended one..20:23
OerHeksor start over, and format the disk not mbr, but GPT20:23
PCatineanI tried with minidlna as well and it doesn't work20:24
eamonnmrActually, hmm, /dev/sda4, my Ubuntu partition is already 'extended'20:25
eamonnmrCould I resize sda5 to use the space then create a logical partition under it?20:25
ioriaeamonnmr, maybe pasting 'sudo parted -ls' would clear the situation20:26
eamonnmrhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4HfhFjSWWX/20:28
eamonnmrIs there anything I could have done differently in clonezilla to change the partitions to logical partitions while copying? I saw an option to resize the old partitions proportionally to fill the new disc and I thought I checked it, but it didn't seem to do the thing20:31
eamonnmrI would just reinstall ubuntu and make a new huge partition but I'd like Windows to be able to be able to use the new partition too. Would I be able to do that if I blew away the existing extended ubuntu partition and made a new one and then made a logical NTFS partition while installing?20:33
ioriaeamonnmr, do the maths; i guess you missed half of the disk20:34
eamonnmrNot so much missed as "cloned a smaller disc into a larger disc"20:34
eamonnmrWhich is nice inasmuch as I can still boot my system, but it isn't using the additional space.20:35
rfmeamonnmr, the problem is partition 3 is allocated at the 317GB mark, after partition 4, preventing partition 4 from expanding.20:35
ioriaeamonnmr, not directly related, but you're using win7 ?20:36
eamonnmrNo, win1020:37
ioriaok20:37
rfmeamonnmr, if you're willing to blow away the ubuntu partition and reinstall, then I'd do that, then delete partitions 4 and 5, move partition 3 up against the end of partition 2, then create new partition 4 (extended) occupying the whole rest of the disk, 5 within 4 (to hold ubuntu) and 6 within 4 (for the shared data partition20:37
eamonnmrAs painful as it would be to blow away the ubuntu partition I've got all of the files backed up, I still have the old drive, and I've got an install bash script which should mostly set up the PC how I want it...20:39
eamonnmrIs all of that possible in the graphical partition editor that ships with the installer?20:40
ioriaeamonnmr, maybe you can resize2fs sd320:40
ioriasda320:40
ioriaeamonnmr, then make new partitions on it20:41
ioriaeamonnmr, gparted is good, yes20:42
rfmeamonnmr, it would also be possible to move partition 3 up to the top of the disk, then resize partition 4;   Shouldn't have to resize partition 5 or resize the fs in it, but not sure...20:42
eamonnmrMaybe I could move it from KPM right now?20:43
eamonnmrOh I see, I can't swap-in-place two partitions20:44
eamonnmrbecause you can only change the start/end points of a given partition20:44
eamonnmrhmm20:44
eamonnmrWhelp I can always restore from the same backup if it goes sideways20:44
eamonnmrmight as well give it a shot with the reinstall20:45
eamonnmrThanks a bunch all!20:45
ioriaeamonnmr, why don't you open gparted  ?20:45
eamonnmrwow that installs fast on an ssd20:45
eamonnmrSo when you say "move" partition 3... it'll only let me move it right, into the block of unallocated space20:46
eamonnmrIf I, say, drag that all the way to the edge... I'd be able to add space to partition 4.... let's see!20:47
eamonnmrOh, but it won't let me futz with the partition that's mounted20:48
rfmeamonnmr, right.  booting a live dvd (like the ubuntu install dvd) is the thing to do when doing partition surgery20:49
eamonnmrWhelp I'll need to dig up a spare flash drive then. I heard some tell that resizing the boot partition would require doing something else to make Ubuntu bootable again20:51
eamonnmrdoes that apply to resizing the extended ('parent?') partition, or just the logical partition it's installed on20:51
eamonnmr(ie will I need to do this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling_GRUB2 )20:58
extorIs there anything other than xrdp + rdp that will connect the desktop of one ubuntu laptop to another? I set up xrdp but when I redesktop to the xrdp server, I get a login screen but after that it's blank green wallpaper. Perhaps a vnc variant? I'd like to run Lxde as my manager too if possible.21:37
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EriC^^eamonnmr: did you fix it? i dont know if you mentioned it, but in theory you can get the starting/end sectors, delete the extended one, recreate it to encompass the last portion and recreate the logical ones in the same place + the ntfs one you want21:41
rfmextor, xrdp runs a very simple session (/etc/X11/Xsession) by default.  I was able to get it to run xfce by editing the bottom of /etc/xdrp/startwm.sh to run /usr/bin/startxfce4 instead of /etc/X11/Xsession.  There may be an equivalent for Lxde but I don't know anything about it.21:44
tomreyneamonnmr: your installer has read errors, either the installer iso you downloaded was corrupt or what you wrote to the installer storage was.21:57
tomreyn!md5 | eamonnmr21:57
ubottueamonnmr: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows21:57
eamonnmr@tomreyn: what?22:02
tomreyneamonnmr: what i wrote22:02
tomreynthat's in response to your bug report22:02
eamonnmrI am unaware of writing a bug report?22:07
tomreyneamonnmr: sorry then, very simiar nickname22:07
ducasseextor: there is also x2go. haven't used it myself.22:07
eamonnmrThat may be the first name collision I've ever encountered-I have a very uncommon name. First time for everything I guess!22:10
tomreynbug 185829722:11
ubottubug 1858297 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "can't install this os" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185829722:11
Bluekingwhat was command to use console cable to switch on cli in ubuntu ?22:17
Bluekingminicom ?22:18
tomreynare you asking about a software to use for a serial connection / console via RS-232?22:19
BluekingI have used it before but forgotten howto :P22:20
tomreynif so, minicom would work, also hnu screen or tmux or byobu22:20
tomreyn*GNU Screen22:20
Bluekinghave none gui.. just cli22:20
OerHekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto22:21
tomreynall of the above run in a terminal just fine.22:21
BluekingOerHeks  thnx :)22:23
extorrfm, should I switch to  xvnc server?22:44
Stootare there still dell firmware repo's for Ubuntu ?22:55
OerHeksStoot, no active one, fwupd is now part of linux, so no need to do so anymore23:01
OerHekshttps://launchpad.net/~dell-team/+archive/ubuntu/ppa23:01
StootOerHeks yes I found that out but that doesn't grab the software you need does it ?23:01
OerHeksindeed, it is dead23:01
Stootthat sucks23:01
OerHeksfor what dell model?23:02
StootR41023:02
psiphrei've somehow managed to hose my apt sources.list.  trying to add winehq as a source, but now with any apt command i'm getting "malformed entry 52", even if i comment out line 52.23:06
OerHeksStoot, i think you are bound to the dell repo like this: https://oitibs.com/dell-openmanage-on-ubuntu-16-04/23:07
Ben64psiphre: pastebin the sources.list23:07
StootOerHeks that looks nice,t hanks, I report back!23:08
StootOerHeks great on my 20G connection :P23:09
extorIs there a standard way of running a vnc server on a headless box? I want to run preferably Lxde as my window manager and bind the vnc server to a virtual video card driver23:09
extorAnd then either rdp or vnc to it and still be able to run my apps23:10
StootOerHeks I might need to try to install fedora23:12
Stootwhich is sad23:12
StootI'm sad23:13
seven-elevenhi23:48
seven-elevenshould i install nvidia's driver from its website or from ubuntus repo?23:48
ducassefrom repo23:48
seven-elevenok23:49
ducasseif you need a newer one, use the graphics-drivers ppa23:49
seven-elevenok23:49
seven-elevenlet me try adding that23:49
seven-elevensudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa23:50
aircraftbluesanyone else use qtile?23:57
seven-eleveninstalled the 400 nvidia driver, now I simply reboot?23:57
ducasseseven-eleven: yep, should be23:57
seven-eleventhanks23:58
ducasseyw23:58

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