[09:43] <max12345> hey all, the automatic dist upgrade notification just popped up again... it doesn't work, is that a known issue, where would I file that as a bug?
[09:44] <max12345> just the regular https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs ? because I think there may be a good chance it's working on pure ubuntu.
[10:23] <tomreyn> !bug | max12345: you need to file bugs against the 'source package'.
[11:06] <JackFrost> Curious, from which version to which version?  What does /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades say?
[12:55] <max12345> wow, another clever site that identifies by username and not email
[12:55] <max12345> (launchpad) ah well...
[12:57] <tomreyn> you mean the one where it says "Please type your email:" on the login screen?
[12:58] <JackFrost> Though the link is launchpad.net/~tomreyn
[12:58] <tomreyn> ?
[12:59] <max12345> no usernames have to be unique on launchpad
[12:59] <max12345> because it's 1999 and we can't handle having two people identifying as "max"
[13:00] <JackFrost> tomreyn: You login via your email, but your username is still without the TLD, he seems to want the TLD included so you can have tom@somewhereweird.com as your identifier.
[13:02] <tomreyn> i see. well, uanchpad isn't too young, and SSO is complex, i never had to set one up thankfully and thus won't comment on how it should be done.
[13:02] <tomreyn> *launchpad
[13:02] <JackFrost> I'm glad we get proper usernames.
[13:03] <tomreyn> and that we don't get spammed since our e-mail addresses are not as easily harvested as on other sites.
[13:04] <JackFrost> Meh, if you contribute to Debian your email gets archived in so many emails and 3rd party list viewers it doesn't matter. :3
[13:04] <max12345> anyway, I filed the bug but now launchpad says it timed out
[13:04] <max12345> so is the bug report saved or do I have to resubmit it?
[13:05] <tomreyn> on modern web browsers you'll just reload the pag and it'll re-submit
[13:05] <max12345> yep, that times out again.
[13:06] <tomreyn> :-/ there's #launchpad then
[13:06] <max12345> hm.
[13:06] <max12345> worth a shot I suppose
[13:06] <tomreyn> you can also start web developer extensions and get a copy of what you submitted that way
[13:07] <tomreyn> or maybe go back in the browser, copy you input, save it to a file, reaload the bug submission form, copy -> paste  it there and submit again
[13:07] <tomreyn> were you using "ubuntu-bug" though?
[13:08] <max12345> yep
[13:08] <tomreyn> is there a unique id on the url, yet?
[13:08] <max12345> there is an error id for the timeout yes
[13:08] <max12345> I think that's in the url
[13:09] <max12345> ah no it's different but there is something that could be an id in the url
[13:09] <tomreyn> an "oops"?
[13:09] <tomreyn> i mean, what's the url parameter name?
[13:10] <tomreyn> you don't need to share the value
[13:10] <max12345> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+filebug/ ...and then an id
[13:11] <tomreyn> ah ok so it's not created, yet, just debug data was uploaded
[13:12] <max12345> ah ok now it gave me a proper error
[13:12] <max12345> ok...
[13:16] <max12345> now it's timing out again...
[13:19] <max12345> yay done.
[13:20] <max12345> thanks
[13:20] <max12345> let's hope it helps...
[13:22] <tomreyn> do you have SHELL=/bin/fish set system wide or just for your user?
[13:23] <max12345> I actually don't know
[13:23] <tomreyn> i'm surprised "DpkgHistoryLog.txt" and "DpkgTerminalLog.txt" came back empty
[13:23] <tomreyn> generally you'll get a better chance of support when a release is not very close to end of life
[13:28] <max12345> hm we'll see. If I have to I will just file it again...
[13:31] <tomreyn> i think your best way forward is to upgrade soon, then see whether it's still present
[13:32] <max12345> I mean the upgrade doesn't work so I'll have to wipe the system again?
[13:32] <tomreyn> how does the upgrade not work?
[13:33] <tomreyn> !upgrade
[13:38] <max12345> I tried to use update-manager -d and it just said everything is up to date
[13:40] <max12345> there was a distupgrade command iirc? let me see what that says...
[13:41] <max12345> ... literally nothing. 0 upgraded, 0 not upgraded.
[13:43] <xubuntu57w> Hi there guys. I want to rebind scroll click and right click in my mouse to keyboard keys, but can't find a simple app to do that. Any ideas?
[13:43] <xubuntu57w> It is for a Flash game that I play.
[13:44] <max12345> tomreyn: ah, trying to do it with update-manager and clicking upgrade says it can't find a value for SHELL in /etc/shells
[13:47] <Kumool> xubuntu57w: theres a way, let me see if I can find the command
[13:47] <Kumool> its a default one by xorg
[13:49] <Kumool> xubuntu57w: xinput --set-button-map
[13:50] <Kumool> you will need to remap the entire device
[13:50] <xubuntu57w> I feel kinda lost. What am I supposed to do from there on?
[13:50] <Kumool> xubuntu57w: xinput list --long to see everything
[13:50] <xubuntu57w> Find my device's id?
[13:50] <Kumool> yes
[13:52] <xubuntu57w> I found it, it is named Bluetooth Mouse, which is the Microsoft BT mouse that I have.
[13:52] <Kumool> :)
[13:53] <Kumool> I can only point you in the direction, I have not done it, so
[13:53] <xubuntu57w> ID is 18, I assume it is static, right?
[13:53]  * Kumool shrugs
[13:54] <Kumool> if it isn't you can make a script in xinit that can run the rebinding command each time you start the PC
[13:55] <Kumool> or there's probably a configuration file somewhere
[13:55] <xubuntu57w> Hmm, I'd settle with something executable that would last for that session. Even better, to only work while X app window is selected or smt, but that's more complicated.
[13:55] <Kumool> not necessarily
[13:55] <Kumool> you just make a wrapper
[13:56] <Kumool> runapp.sh is actually    rebinding.sh;app;unbind.sh
[13:56] <Kumool> and launch the app using runapp.sh
[13:56] <Kumool> mm its a flashgame...
[13:57] <Kumool> well, you can set a profile just for that game, open chromium with another profile
[13:58] <Kumool> its what I do with firefox for private sessions
[13:58] <Kumool> and netflix, because running widedevine will crash my computer
[14:22] <xubuntu57w> I use Flash Projector.
[14:22] <xubuntu57w> It's way lighter compared to Firefox.
[14:22] <Kumool> ah
[14:22] <Kumool> maybe I'll give it a go
[14:22] <Kumool> (
[14:22] <Kumool> I wont)
[14:23] <xubuntu57w> So I'll just need xinit to revind the keys, right?
[14:32] <Kumool> no
[14:32] <Kumool> just xinput
[14:32] <Kumool> just make a wrapper around flash projector and rebind when you start it
[14:33] <Kumool> it would be nice to only bind to the app, but :S
[14:33] <Kumool> that's beyond me
[14:56] <xubuntu57w> Oh man, I'm confused on how do to it exactly.
[14:56] <xubuntu57w> I can only find info about swapping buttons.
[19:37] <xubuntu60w> Hi
[19:37] <xubuntu60w> I have installed xubuntu-desktop on raspberry pi
[19:37] <xubuntu60w> what command should I run to boot the GUI
[19:39] <diogenes_> startxfce4
[22:11] <JackFrost> For best results, in my ~/.xinitrc I have: export DESKTOP_SESSION=xubuntu\nexport XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP=xubuntu\n. /etc/X11/Xsession\nstartxfce4
[22:22] <xubuntu60w> I don't see startxfce4 in my system
[22:23] <xubuntu60w> I have installed xubuntu-desktop
[22:23] <xubuntu60w> also Xorg
[22:24] <JackFrost> xubuntu-desktop depends on xfce4-session, which provides that.