[00:26] i get an error while loading the vm image [00:26] yotux use nvidia === tieinv is now known as hofer [00:55] So i probably have a very novice question... [01:06] hi, i was here earlier today, trying to get help with all of my video coming from my webcam being upside down, i ran a bunch of commands that broke things at the suggestion of people and had to redo my linuxbox, i suspect that it was partially my fault and not the fault of the people that tried to help me, would anyone be able to assist me again? i'm ready to experiment [01:08] also to those who helped earlier, thank you so much for trying, and for those who will help now, thank you for your time. ^_^ [01:10] basically using ubuntu 18.04 updated to current, and the video output from cam is upside down except in guvcview [01:10] video4linux is still upside down [01:11] so if anyone could help me fix this issue, i'd appriciate it greately [01:11] i've tried various howto's on my own, but with no success [01:11] the people here where of far more help ^_^ [01:19] wow it's quiet here, everyone must be having noms === Leion1 is now known as Leion [01:50] elphias, I dont have a solution (not familiar myself)... but you have different results on different software? [01:52] and the image is right, just not rightside right, which would mean everything is talking the same language. So look into advanced customizations for video4inux === zbenjamin is now known as Guest33208 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [02:24] yes, video4linux seems useless [02:24] one other app is right side up, [02:24] and for some reason i get a access denied even in root [02:25] so it is not system wide? [02:25] what camera is this? [02:25] ffmpeg -f v4l2 -i /dev/video0 -vf "vflip" -f v4l2 /dev/video1 [02:26] gives an access denied message in red, even when i drop to root [02:26] here's the cam [02:26] *-usb:0 [02:26] description: Video [02:26] product: USB 2.0 Camera [02:26] vendor: Sonix Technology Co., Ltd. [02:26] physical id: 2 [02:27] !paste [02:27] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [02:28] OerHeks: FWIW, the bot usually PMs the user it mutes. [02:28] sorries about that [02:28] did not mean to spam [02:28] here's the cam [02:28] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jN8j32T3H3/ [02:28] well, video for linux does have a option for orientation [02:29] here's the full output of that command [02:29] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GmQZsbmRBh/ [02:29] when I googled video4linux orientation, there were options for jpeg and other image formate s to specify which corner was what [02:30] it almost seems like the cam is owned by root but not able to change it to user [02:31] probably moreso something is using it. But clearly, if you are able to run sw on it, then ownership(access) is not the problem [02:31] i killed everything i could thing of that was using it [02:31] if there's a *.* killall for it i'd use it [02:31] but Im not an expert here. Just, usually, with ownership/access, if you cant touch it, you cant touch it [02:31] but i don't think there is, and i can't figure out whats controlling it [02:32] so i am guessing there is no fix for this? nor workaround? [02:33] so it does not happen in all applications? [02:33] (thats what he said) [02:33] only chrome/chromium? ( known issue) [02:33] guvcview works fine [02:34] now Im confused hehehe [02:34] but everything else is upside down [02:34] so the device works, and the os works [02:34] and even apps work [02:34] one could try a PPA with the latest builds, but without proper info, i doubt it is broken [02:34] so I googled "video4linux & orientation" and there were options. [02:36] yup none seem to work in v4l [02:36] the options are non responsive [02:39] would someone be willing to dedicate some time in private message to helping me fix this? i would very much appriciate it, [02:40] elphias: we already explained you yesterday PM is not the way we support here [02:40] holy crap have i been up that long O_o sorries, been trouble shooting this cam for over 24 hours then >.< [02:40] i am missing some info, what video device? lsusb or lspci would tell .. and what application(s) doe this flip? [02:40] elphias: be patient then, and please mind your language too [02:41] i am minding my words, i did not swear O_o [02:41] if i did i apologize [02:45] here is the info i got ahold of [02:45] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GFNXgW6Nwk/ [02:45] elphias: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam/Troubleshooting [02:45] i forgot a command, but it gives an access denied in red letters [02:45] hi [02:46] how do i install gta v in ubuntu? [02:46] elphias: I found that link, from the: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam and it specifically gives ways to right the image [02:46] both pages offer pretty primitive means of testing and working out issues [02:47] seven-eleven, sounds like you need wine and playonlinux, join the winechannel for game help [02:47] !wine [02:47] WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu [02:49] OerHeks, i just learned about "proton/lutris" seems like they use wine and do the config for the user [02:49] elphias, you are probably mixing issues. *thats my guess. One is, you are configuring this webcam on this linux install the way you want it, the other is, you are doing things as root/sudo or running one or more apps on the device at the same time. [02:49] not being able to configure any settings, (settings dont do anything), leads me to believe you are changing them in the wrong place/files/ways === Leion1 is now known as Leion === Leion1 is now known as Leion === akko is now known as hardnickFGIASJug === hardnickFGIASJug is now known as akko [05:24] hi, i have an odd question, i use a program for linux called weewx, it allows my weather station to interface with weather underground and display current weather information around my house, what i am wondering is if anyone knows of a program out there that has a gui that instead of having to go to weather underground to view the data, that i can open on my screen and watch it there? i know it's a long shot, but one can hope [05:24] can't they? ^_^ [05:39] hows the camera? === Leion1 is now known as Leion [06:30] is there a way to install the ati/video card drivers in .deb form in ubuntu 18.04? i kept running into dependancy issues [06:31] i just downloaded the .deb from ati's website for ubuntu 18.04, could not get it to install no matter what i did....am i not doing something right? or are the crappy open source oibaf drivers the only option [06:31] !ati [06:31] Open drivers for AMD cards: amdgpu (cards >= GCN1.2 aka GCN 3rd gen), radeon (older cards). AMD has a closed driver named amdgpu-pro that supports the same cards as amdgpu, but it is generally unnecessary. FGLRX is not supported in any current Ubuntu version or in this channel. For info on GCN levels, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units [06:32] Oooooooo [06:32] ok, that explains it, guess i'm stuck with the crappy oibaf drivers >.< [06:32] *Sighs* [06:37] elphias: Or padoka [06:37] padoka? never heard of it, what is it? [06:37] it's an ppa just like oibaf [06:38] There is a stable version and an unstable with more recent updates [06:42] well that was an unexpected solid lockup of a freeze O_o [06:43] oddly i get those lockups from time to time, no clue what causes them or how to figure it out [06:52] Sweet! 18.04LTS goes on a Mac Mini super smooth! [07:08] is there a fan control for asus laptops? sensors-detect saw stuff, but the next part of the howto said there was no controllable fans or something [07:15] i've asked this already, but the guy who responed went offline. how do you enable night mode on ubuntu? i use ubuntu studio 19 [07:22] ubuntu studio uses xfce [07:55] Hi, I'm trying to use a Virtualbox setup for the first time, but I'm facing issues with input. [07:55] Everython works so far, installation complete. Booting and logging into my Ubuntu (guest OS) account easily, [07:55] After login, mouse and keyboard no longer work on the guest OS. [08:00] did you install the virtualbox guest additions iso to fix that? [08:00] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/GuestAdditions [08:09] How would I check what requires a package? e.g. why a package is [installed,automatic]? [08:11] apt-rdepends can show dependencies. apt-rdepends <[ackage> [08:12] Perfect, thank you === westor{off} is now known as westor [08:18] i know that you all do not provide support for discord, but i have a question, why is my dmesg completely flooded with this error when the app is running? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SPQRfg7QMP/ [08:19] elphias, bad written Proprietary stuff, we have no clue [08:20] file a bug against the snap? snap info gives an email-adress i hope [08:21] i've never seen anything like it in dmesg [08:21] almost 8k errors in less than 5 minutes [08:21] i'm just like whoa [08:22] ow wait, there are some install options, for different purposes https://github.com/snapcrafters/discord [08:22] OerHeks: Thanks. Done this already. [08:22] Still does not work. [08:23] I used a different tty and ran apt-get install virtualbox-guest-additions-iso [08:23] But it still fails. [08:47] i have a question, this is a new system to me, why are there messages in dmesg saying that the core temp is above threshold and the cpu clock has been throttled? is that normal? there's 9218 events of this [08:47] stupid net [08:48] is this error dangerous? is there a fix? [08:48] elphias that's an annoying niggle with confinement. Might be worth mentioning on the snapcraft.io forum [08:48] seeing his part error, temp issues... [08:50] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PcddhqHYF6/ [08:50] my system isn't gonna burn it's self out is it? [08:50] elphias my reply was regarding your snap issue, of course, rather than your temperature error [08:51] gerrr internet issues [08:51] here's the dmesg output [08:51] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PcddhqHYF6/ [08:51] is my system gonna fry it's self? [08:52] elphias: try installing lm-sensors and run "sensors" to see the temps [08:52] also what does "top" show for the cpu usage? [08:53] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jF9Q9zbjKw/ [08:54] yeah that's pretty high [08:54] anything in "top" ? [08:54] * extor wants to mount a 300GB partition under /home/xtor/vmware and have it NOT owned by root. Already tried it and the VM created has all sorts of permission issues. Any howtos on this? Any recommended scripts or apps? [08:54] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hrV9ygJTQM/ [08:54] thats what is in top [08:55] it doesn't look too bad [08:55] elphias: could you paste "cat /proc/cmdline" ? [08:56] is this a laptop? does it actually feel hot/fans on etc? [08:56] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2wJQTFrFGY/ [08:57] EriC^^, i can hear fans running and feel air moving [08:57] aha that's good [08:58] i tried installing lm-sensors and fan control based on a howto, sensors-detect saw stuff, but fancontrol says there's nothing to control [08:58] perhaps see if there's a newer kernel to be installed maybe there's a bug and it works better [08:59] how would i do that? is there one just for an i7? [08:59] try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [09:00] running the commmand now [09:00] which ubuntu is this? [09:01] ubuntu 18.04 lts [09:01] i don't like the short releases [09:01] nothing to be upgraded or removed [09:01] ah [09:02] you could try installing the hwe package and get a newer kernel [09:02] elphias@asus:~$ uname -r [09:02] 5.0.0-37-generic [09:02] how do i do that? [09:02] !hwe | elphias [09:02] elphias: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack [09:03] are you sure this isnt like a one time fluke though? [09:04] nope been watching the temps error in dmesg for about 2 weeks now [09:05] it says i am already using that version of hwe [09:05] nothing to be upgraded [09:07] i'm going to beat verizon [09:07] what can i do to bring those temps to within normal range [09:09] !info linux-generic bionic [09:10] linux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 4.15.0.72.74 (bionic), package size 1 kB, installed size 15 kB [09:11] elphias: just guessing here, if top shows no usage, maybe linux isnt controlling the cpu right, not putting properly in sleep or something [09:12] check for a bios update? [09:12] ok i am trying to figure this out, how do i do this? i'm interested in testing [09:12] elphias: try setting the acpi maybe it helps?http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html [09:12] elphias: try setting the acpi maybe it helps? http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html [09:16] i downloaded the script and it failed [09:17] the script contained here http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html is broken [09:17] elphias: try "sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i 'windows'" [09:19] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dWKXfyY2Qf/ [09:20] sorry i keep bouncing from the server, verizon screwed up my net [09:20] elphias: what's the latest windows version it returned in the list? [09:20] 2009 [09:20] ok, type "sudo nano /etc/default/grub" [09:21] done [09:21] elphias: add in the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT after quiet splash [09:22] acpi_osi=! acpi_osi=\"Windows 2009\" [09:22] ok save it? [09:22] yeah === EriC^ is now known as EriC^^ [09:23] then sudo update-grub [09:26] it returns an error [09:26] Sourcing file `/etc/default/grub' [09:27] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JWtWmhrN7r/ [09:27] elphias: type "cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999" [09:27] i don't know if i typed something wrong [09:28] https://termbin.com/eam9 [09:30] https://termbin.com/eam9 [09:30] elphias: remove GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and in the line above it, add after quiet splash acpi_osi=! acpi_osi=\"Windows 2009\" [09:31] you should end up with GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_osi=! acpi_osi=\"Windows 2009\"" [09:31] with the " " ? [09:31] yeah [09:32] maybe if you join irc from the webchat you won't get disconnected btw, https://webchat.freenode.net [09:35] reboot now? [09:35] did you run sudo update-grub ? [09:35] yes [09:35] ok cool, try rebooting [09:36] wish me luck [09:38] Hi I have a harddrive from a broken machine I'm trying to access, but nothing seems to be able to recognise it, gparted can't even see it, it might be entirely dead, but do anyone have some last resort things I can try? [09:41] stress testing the system now, fired up secondlife [09:42] if that don't generate some heat i am not sure what will [09:43] darn still getting core temps above threshold cpu throttled, but it's only 1 event right now [09:47] 30 total events now v.v [09:50] i'm getting less overheating messages in dmesg now [09:50] is only a few ok? or should there be none at all? [09:51] ideally none i guess [09:51] i wonder what could still be making the errors, there's only 30 of them now, and it seems to be staying that way [09:53] elphias_: i dont know for sure how to troubleshoot it, if it were my pc i'd probably try a different kernel and see how that goes, or possibly if it's an old laptop open it up and clean the fans or maybe put thermal paste between the cpu and fan [09:53] no new messages [09:53] nice [09:53] secondlife is a very hardware intensive game due to it's almost 100% user created content [09:53] if the cpu is gonna over heat, it's gonna be while running firestorm [09:56] gona fire up discord, it's written by a 3 year old with no common sense [09:59] the overheating issues seem to have vanished, i think your fix worked! ^_^ [10:07] just checked dmesg, and there's 1373 instances of over heating [10:07] i guess it did not work like i thought it did v.v [10:08] i really don't want my (new to me) laptop to burn up [10:09] dmesg [10:12] granted the amount of individual errors in dmesg are far fewer, i'm still worried because they are showing up in red text [10:15] are there anymore fix's i can try to get rid of those red messages entirely [10:16] i'm very worried about physical damage to my hardware [10:18] the errors are up to acount of 4767 now v.v [10:53] i found an interesting thing built for lenovo laptops [10:54] supposedly it keeps the heat down, there where a few asus refrences in the howto, so i figured it would be ok to try it on my asus [11:22] i fixed the overheating issue ^_^ [11:22] i found a howto, it was built for a lenovo computer, however on a hunch i used the download and git and compile commands to build the module [11:22] rebooted and to my surprise it did not kill the kernel [11:23] now there's not a single overheating/throttleing message in dmesg [11:24] if anyone is interested, read down this page to the ubuntu section, it will give the commands that in this case seem to work perfectly [11:24] https://askubuntu.com/questions/1158065/cpu-overheating-in-ubuntu-18-04/1158093#1158093 [11:25] oddly the solution was built for lenovo, not for asus, HOWEVER there is a asus mention in the page that linked to this one, so i figured what the hey i'll give it a try [11:25] and to my surprise it worked! [11:55] now that i got all the bugs worked out of the kernel and the temps are normal, how might one go about creating a complete install image of this system? [11:56] in case i have to redo it i don't have to dig up and bother people for the info again [11:56] kinda like an "OEM" usb drive or something like that [12:17] Hello everyone! [12:32] Does anyone know how to get a VM to talk to an Ubuntu host, other VMs and the Internet by any chance? You wouldn't believe the hell I'm having with this. I really wish someone could help. [12:32] corshmock: ssh? [12:32] hi everyone, trying to figure out preseeding, created a preseed.cfg file and referenced it via boot param "file=/cdrom/preseed.cfg", the only thing in the preseed file is "d-i debian-installer/locale string en_US" but it doesn't seem to do anything. any tips as to know whether or not the preseed file is loaded at all ? [12:33] corshmock: depends on how the network is distributed to the guest, how are you virtualizing ? [12:33] corshmock: you need to be a little more specific.. Which VM? What host? Inside or outside a firewall? LAN? [12:33] I'm using the dreaded KVM, which everyone says works pretty much out of the box. [12:34] Host is Ubuntu albech, VM is Red Hat. I don't think there is any firewall involved. [12:35] It's just on my Broadband [12:35] Ubuntu 18.04 [12:35] VM = hypervisor (KVM)? [12:35] correct albech [12:36] corshmock: and they are on the same network? [12:36] I followed yet another doc this morning, using Netplan. I thought it was going to work. The bridge came up, had an ip address, but no contact between host and guest and I lost internet connectivity [12:37] Well they are different subnets [12:37] Host is 192.168.100.x / 24 and VM is on 192.168.122.x / 24, which is questionable to me anyway. [12:38] wont work unless you route some traffic there [12:38] this is two different networks [12:38] I've tried a static route but it didn't work either. [12:39] I wonder can I force KVM to put the host on the 192.168.100.x network. [12:39] Hello [12:39] this is not the solution, but ill bet if you changed the netmask to 16 is would work [12:39] What is it called the Apple Spaces in Windos 10? [12:40] root1: this is ubuntu support.. [12:40] I'm not sure if I can make a change to the scope. [12:40] lotuspsychje: I know. Thats why I am asking. Apple and Windows support doesn??t work. [12:40] no, but your problem is that you are trying to connect from one network to the other and you need some routing between them [12:41] Yeah I've tried a static route but no joy there either. [12:41] root1: do you have a specific question about ubuntu? [12:42] corshmock: try ##networking perhaps? [12:42] Thanks lotuspsychje, I don't suppose there is a KVM channel? [12:43] corshmock: hmm sure or #kvm if such thing esists [12:43] there is [12:43] lotuspsychje: no [12:43] do a tcpdump on the host to see if the traffic is passing outbound, if the guest and host are on different networks you need return routing or source natting to make the return traffic work [12:44] corshmock: as rvsjoen you need to fix return routing as well [12:44] Thanks albech and rvsjoen for your help. [12:46] is debconf-utils replaced by something else in 18.04 ? or is there another way to auto generate the preseed file ? (debconf-get-selection equivalent) [12:47] Hi folks [12:58] @BluesKaj hi [12:58] hi hide4 [13:43] Hello aain guys, I have been trying to setup #Kubuntu next to windows. I did not have an EFI boot so I created a 500MB for EFI - as recommended by installer and formated fat32 - but after the install I am unable to access the boot menu. I have checked my BIOS and UEFI is enabled with Legacy support and even UEFI only does not boot. Any ideas? [13:43] [13:42] can anyone help? [13:45] legacy [13:45] try [13:53] Bakkar: Try method 2 here, just click the big 'recommended repair' button. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair [13:54] i just discovered that this laptop has two power buttons, one big one at the top right of the keyboard, and a smaller one next to the volume buttons it has a power simbol and a little man symbol [13:54] Bakkar: Windows *loves* to nuke non windows bootloaders, so you'll probably find yourself having to do that again in the future after windows updates from time to time. [13:54] when i start the laptop with that second power button my cpu temps don't seem so high, why 2 power buttons? [13:54] elphias: make and model of laptop? [13:55] asus n61j [13:55] kinda [13:55] it's the only computer like it in the world, never mass produced with these specs, asus actually tried to buy it back from me [13:56] the n61j topped out at an i5 cpu with 8gb of ram and a 250gb hd [13:56] but thats not what this one has, it was an engeneers computer special built [13:56] asus actually offered to pay the shipping to send it to them, ontop of offering me 3k for it [13:56] it was never supposed to leave whereever the guy worked [13:57] this one has an i7 with 16gb of ram and a 500gb ssd [13:57] so it's a n61j in name only [13:57] but, it behaves diffrently when powered on by the secondary power button [13:57] i don't hear fans at all [13:57] elphias: who knows then. That button is not mentioned or described in the manual for that model. https://www.asus.com/Laptops/N61Ja/HelpDesk_Manual/ [13:58] the button has a power symbol and sits amongst the volume keys at the top left of the keyboard above it, the regular power button is this big round eye looking thing that lights up when you press it [13:58] yup [13:59] elphias thise mashine no chance install ubuntu [13:59] wrong model number, there is no "a" there [13:59] my laptop died [13:59] Blade, ubuntu is running just amazing on it [13:59] ok [13:59] with a bit of a heat issue, but the fans are silent now that i've pressed that button for the first time [14:00] elphias: every single system following the n61j prefix has more after that [14:00] the big power button the fans are noisey [14:00] oh okies [14:00] elphias: Best bet in this case is to probably contact ASUS and ask. [14:00] well this one does not, if i had a camera i'd show you [14:00] i did, they would not tell me [14:00] Not much more I can say without just blind guessing. [14:00] there are no other letters or numbers after the n61j [14:00] ditto [14:01] Perhaps some 'start up with hardware CPU throttling on a very aggressive setting, disable fans?' option? [14:01] That would be my best guess, but that's really only a guess. [14:01] same here, i really could not tell you [14:01] Oh! Another really common use of that is a 'boot into a recovery mode' function [14:01] that's actually really common [14:02] and probably now that I think about it, my best bet [14:02] though i did some googleing, it seems that some asus laptops have the dual power option, when the tiny button is pressed, it boots into a linux os [14:02] the big button boots windows [14:02] according to the forums i read at best buy [14:02] And if you lack a recovery partition it probably just falls back to the first OS it can boot [14:02] possible [14:02] though i don't really know [14:03] Were you testing CPU temp using like some form of semi-standarized method? Like start something designed to stress the CPU, let it run for 15 mins, repeat using 'the other button'? [14:03] I doubt there would be a 'don't bother using system fans' button, that sounds kinda unsafe [14:04] but who knows - I mean the higher end laptops get generally the stranger the hardware gets [14:04] the button is shown on the drawing in the manual [14:04] still looking [14:05] ahha! [14:05] it's called a express gate key [14:05] pressing this key will launch express gate [14:06] it's also called a power4gear key [14:06] it also has a graphics boost key [14:06] which if you hold that power4gate key down seems to boost the vid card [14:07] oh, glad you found it then [14:07] I didn't see it, but I really skimmed said manual and have not had my coffee yet [14:08] hehe [14:08] all i can tell you is that the laptop is 100% silent right now [14:08] temps are still well cool [14:08] oh and look at that, my heat issue in dmesg is fixed O_o [14:10] oddly sudo lshw -c cpu shows the cpu is actually running at a higher speed with a lower voltage [14:10] O_o [14:10] a quick google states that the button loaded a secondary linux like os [14:11] maybe that's the button i should boot with when using linux [14:12] change boot with bios [14:13] and get this, i'm testing a game right now called second life, unless you have a good video card you get a low fps because of the user created content [14:13] well, i pressed the tiny power button system botten in 7 seconds [14:14] and secondlife is giving me 60fps [14:14] where i normally get 20 with normal power button [14:14] there is something very diffrent going on here [14:14] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VZQygdSkZ5/ and see the problem [14:15] no problem [14:17] in whatever mode this is, the computer is about 8 times faster [14:17] and 60% quieter [14:17] i timed it, it takes 7 seconds to boot from power off in this mode, it took me longer to log in [14:17] than it did for the system to boot [14:18] i never noticed the secondary power button before untill i was air dusting the keyboard for better airflow [14:20] oh and this is odd, press the function key, and the little dude on the spacebar, and the system instantly locks the desktop O_O [14:20] and i mean instant [14:21] no secand power buuton is one [14:22] based on my quick read of the manual and of the best buy forums, it would seem that the main power button boots windows, and the secondary seems to boot a linux like os [14:22] i bet if i keep booting with the secondary power button all my over heating errors in dmesg will go away [14:22] grub boot [14:23] check pc [14:23] oh and one more thing, there's an ssd in here, so far i've noticed that the programs i've started which usually take a moment or 2 to open, open instantly [14:23] even secondlife which takes a moment or 2 to load popped right up in the blink of an eye [14:24] although i have noticed something......some cpu cores seem to be missing? or it could just be me [14:25] nope all 8 cores are there, had to find an app in the app store to figure that out though [14:25] one boot win 2 ubuntu is inpossabal for me [14:25] I am installing Ubuntu 16 offline and other dependencies , one of the dependencies is openjdk-9-headless , I have tried to install this package twice now and receive the same error message. I have also downloaded this package from two separate ubuntu places. [14:25] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/j6bMZgQbrQ/ [14:27] Again I am installing 100% offline , so no online repos period [14:27] Taking the package from here https://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/xenial/universe/base/openjdk-9-jre-headless [14:28] elphias grub boot not ...... [14:29] huh? [14:29] i'm not sure what you mean [14:29] i don't know if it used grub to boot or not [14:29] there could be something quicker built in i don't know [14:30] mashine not boot win or ubuntu grub boot [14:30] i haven't used windows in almost 20 years O_o [14:30] i know what it looks like but not how to use it [14:32] i 30 years us pc dos i am bulgarian pravec 8c like apple [14:33] 8 years old i 38 [14:47] I'm a web dev. One of my clients got a message saying their u/p combination had been found in the wild. They're worried our server has been compromised... since I hash and salt passwords that seems somewhat unlikely. But I told them I'd "due some checking". Any thoughts about how to look for smoke-signals that a server was compromised? I realize the point would be to not leave traces. [14:50] ok further testing, there's a trackpad with 2 buttons at the bottom of the keyboard, it does not matter what app i open, it pops open before i can even begin to move my finger from the mouse button O_o [14:51] i had no idea this laptop was THAT quick [14:51] mustmodify: do they use it on any other site? usually those leak databases tell what site it came from [14:52] mustmodify: try #ubuntu-security [14:53] mguy: I'm sure that's what happened. I told them it was somewhere between very and extraordinarily unlikely to have come from us. Still, some due diligence might comfort them. :) [14:53] leftyfb: thanks. [14:53] i am so NEVER using the big power button again! [14:56] elphias, ok now that yoyure finished blogging about your laptop, can we stick to (u)buntu support [14:57]